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    • rice-a-roni
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      Ok I searched and Im surprised that no one has posted a topic about this seires.

      So, anyone else a Suikodict? Ive just beaten #1 and I think its by far one of the best RPGs Ive ever played. I mean come on 108 playable characters with original charecter deisigns and attacks unique to themselves? you just cant beat that. Im about to play #2 which aparantly is the best. Any opions?

      Bon Clay is inside all of us

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      • Cap'n Carter
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        #2 is definitely the best. In my opinion, 3 is next, and then the first. The 4th was pretty underwhelming, imo.

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          yea I heard the 4th one shamed the seires. It was set like 150 years before 1 right? and I heard they didnt explain any events of wendy, and the war things allso sucked.

          Is Suikoden Tactics any good? Ive heard mixed reviews

          Bon Clay is inside all of us

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          • Captain Spazzo
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            ZOMG Carter, have you seen who's returning for Suikoden V?!

            I am quite excited so far. Looks like an excellent game.

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            • Mr. Prince
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              God I love Suikoden. Yeah 2 is the best by far and hopefuly 5 will redeem the mistake that 4 brought about

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                hmmmm just saw the trailer for 5, and to be honest it looks awsome, seems like its going back to its roots. Im worried about 5 because if 5 sucks than you can preaty much kiss suikoden goodbye.

                Bon Clay is inside all of us

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                • Local-chan
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                  Only got 2 and 4, cos the gits won't release 3 over here. Planning on getting Suiko 1 when its out on PSP.

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                  • Paulie
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                    Own all four. 2 was the best.

                    Sierra and Yuber are by far the coolest characters ever.

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                    • Greg
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                      4 was so much better than the steaming pile of shit that was 3.

                      Who actually thought:

                      "Hey! Let's make players go through the exact same scenario 4 times over with same enemies, non-changing weapons, piss-poor graphics (not always the important thing but that was no excuse), SLOW AS HELL movement, a terribly boring battle system and the complete lack of a world map."

                      They should get a labotamy. 4 isn't anywhere near as good as 2 or 1 (my favorite) but it's a lot better than 3's repetative gameplay, sluggish story and boring system.

                      That said 4 is the first Suikoden game to piss me off more than words can describe because I missed a FRIGGING FISHERMAN who kept me from getting a ton of characters even though he's SUPPOSED to appear. Bastard.

                      BTW, it came to my attention that Suikoden 2 is the new Chrono Trigger. Is this true? Does it sell for big bucks? If so I'll sell that puppy off and wait for the 1 and 2 compilation on PSP.

                      No matter where you go, there you are.

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                      • NeoShweaty
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                        suikoden two as always been really expensive so maybe you should have unloaded a while ago cause now people know they can get it much cheaper (and with another game) on the psp. Then again, you couldnt have known it

                        R.I.P. (for now) KO-Scans

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                        • Nurlock
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                          Yeah, I'd say Suikoden II is up there with Chrono Trigger now. The last copy I saw was going for $40 in a store, same as when I found a Chrono Trigger cartridge.

                          But yeah, I'm a big fan of Suikoden. Love 1 and 2, and I was actually decently happy with 3. I haven't played 4 yet, though, only a demo and I just.. didn't like the feel of it. But yet I hear it's better than 3, so I probably will like it.

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                          • Paulie
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                            I hated 3's battle system, but I liked the characters a lot more than I did in 4… and (especially in Suikoden,) I consider the characters to be the pivotal point.

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                            • Cap'n Carter
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                              Yeah, same with Paulie. The characters are the soul of Suikoden. I really didn't mind Suikoden 3's down points because it had a lot of awesome characters. And I really enjoyed the different point of views (Well, the Thomas scenario was annoying).

                              Suikoden 4 really pissed me off because asides from a few characters, they were really, really bland and uninteresting. I thought the ship thing was kind of cool for a while until you couldn't sail a foot without a pain in the ass random encounter. That, and the story I thought was kind of dumb. And you had to let Snowe live in order to get all 108 Stars. I didn't even bother to finish it up. Say what you want about Suikoden 3, but it wasn't bland-o-rama like 4.

                              Oh yeah, and Georg coming back in Suikoden 5 is pretty cool, but I'm still uneasy about some of the other character designs…

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                              • Greg
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                                And you had to let Snowe live in order to get all 108 Stars. I didn't even bother to finish it up.

                                That's a shame, you won't be playing Tactics I guess. Or at least if you do you'll never get everyone. Not to mention, have you completely skipped over the importance of the rune cannons? That's added a whole new element to the series and it will be interesting to see how that plays out.

                                And as far as interesting or bland characters, I suppose you just never realized who 4's hero actually was. I enjoyed it far more than 3's "Create Your Own Adventure" non-linear gameplay. I mean, if I want non-linear gameplay I'll play something shitty like Romancing Saga, don't soil my Suikoden with that kind of bull. Make a solid story. I don't wanna screw up this history of the world just because I like the eye-patch guy as flame champion.

                                It's apples and oranges and to each his/her own but I think not enough people enjoyed 4 because it's the first game that doesn't smack you across the face with:

                                THIS PERSON IS THIS PERSON AND THEY DID THIS

                                You actually have to find it out for yourself and if you read an in-depth character analysis/character relation FAQ you'll be amazed at the links.

                                And Snowe is the lamest character in the history of RPGs.

                                No matter where you go, there you are.

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                                • Selphish
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                                  I did not like the boat battle system in Suikoden IV, and I found the betrayal of a certain character incredibly predictable.

                                  One of these days, I'll be able to afford Suikoden II. It doesn't matter where I go; everyone praises it as the best of the series.

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                                  • Cap'n Carter
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                                    No, I let Snowe live. I wanted to axe him so bad, but I didn't want the shame of a 107 Star finish. Not that it matters now, I don't ever feel like playing again. I'm sure the main character has SOME significance, because they always do, but I really don't care enough to finish the game just I can discover this all-important fact. I mean, it's not out of Suikoden's nature to have a handful of useless generic characters but in S4 it was like a constant barrage of B-rate characters.

                                    As for Suikoden Tactics, I never cared.

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                                      but I really don't care enough to finish the game just I can discover this all-important fact.

                                      I mean, it's not out of Suikoden's nature to have a handful of useless generic characters but in S4 it was like a constant barrage of B-rate characters.

                                      Well, you kinda just proved the point of my post. The game never does tell you who he is. And almost every character is like that. Like I said, if you read a character analysis FAQ and see who everyone is it will blow your socks off.

                                      As I mentioned before, this game is the only one I've played that doesn't hit you over the back of the head with who each person is. Because players weren't willing to do the research or figure out the now grotesquely large character/world connections, I believe a lot of people gave it up because they felt they weren't connected to anyone. It's actually scary how much they really are.

                                      As for Suikoden Tactics, I never cared

                                      Again, a damn shame as it uncovers the mysteries of the rune cannon, a theme which will certainly be prominent in the series to come and also unravels much of what seemed 'matter-of-fact' in 4. It's no coincidence they came out so close together.

                                      And anyone who didn't like the boat, I can understand that opinion because it's the same concept that made me wanna tie Wind Waker to a lit M-80, but IMHO, a world map is infinitely better than the bullshit from 3. I hate world maps like that. Totally removes you from the experience.

                                      Also, about 3, if there's anything good I have to say about it, it's the story. I really did enjoy the overall story but I would have enjoyed it a LOT more if I wasn't playting the same predictable scenarios over 3-4 times. AWFUL idea.

                                      No matter where you go, there you are.

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                                        • Local-chan
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                                          well, looks like Konami aint gonna release Suiko 1 and 2 on the PSP over in the states (still unknown for a UK release tho but VERY doubtful.) which is sad, but understandable. Although, I wish Konami will release it instead of yet another Metal Gear/DDR/Yugioh game

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                                            And anyone who didn't like the boat, I can understand that opinion because it's the same concept that made me wanna tie Wind Waker to a lit M-80, but IMHO, a world map is infinitely better than the bullshit from 3. I hate world maps like that. Totally removes you from the experience.

                                            Actually, Wind Waker is one of the only times I've found sailing to be really fun in a video game. Maybe it fit in with the overall feel of the game in a way that I liked, but it was like… SET SAIL FOR ADVENTURE! or something. Then again, most people vehemently disgaree with me

                                            I didn't mind the S3 map. It's been a while, but at each location when you got to walk it was the approximate distance you would on the map (or something). Maybe. It's been a while, but that's how I thought of it.

                                            Like I said, S3's characters and great stories for me made up for what was otherwise lacking. I mean, a badass talking duck with a halberd. That was awesome.

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