Didn't you start this thread in the first place? No need to repeat yourself. Everyone is aware that we should spread One Piece.
We should spread One Piece!
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Yea i made a mistake not knowing i made one already. So i want to bring it back. Because I really want this show to be known around the world.
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Yea i made a mistake not knowing i made one already. So i want to bring it back. Because I really want this show to be known around the world.
Believe me so do I…..I want people to know the real One Piece and give it a shot, I've tried many times and failed. I got one friend to watch it and he fell in love with it, but hes a guy who likes to waste time and the dub didn't get him fully yet.
But the fact is, we can't. Not only are people influenced by the dub but if they don't like the entire idea in general they are screwed. I was a Mugiwara who found One Piece by the dub and enjoyed its concept. Once I saw the subs I fell in love.
But you see? Despite the dub burchers it its still the same story MOSTLY and if someone who's seen the dub don't like the concept then theres no hope in them giving hope to yet alone enjoying the subs. All edits, dialouge, and changes beside, if they don't like the story than theres nothing you can do.
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Untrue! Don't give up. We can make a difference,. A lot of people on the 4kids forum have turned over and now watch the subs. I get a lot of emails from people thanking me because they now know the true story.
That's what it's about, it's not about changing EVERYONE, you're right, that'd be hard, but if I can just help a handful of people, that's completely worth it.
and yes, if they watch the dub and say the show is aweful and they hate the story, well they probably won't watch subs there, but there are people out there who want to see the real OP, we just need to find them
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But you see? Despite the dub burchers it its still the same story MOSTLY and if someone who's seen the dub don't like the concept then theres no hope in them giving hope to yet alone enjoying the subs. All edits, dialouge, and changes beside, if they don't like the story than theres nothing you can do.
Ahh, Buuhan has finally come out and said the very doubt that nags each and every one of we dub haters at night; the dub might be bad, but if the concept's good no amount of butchery can kill the fanbase. Most of the OP fanbase prior to the dub just went underground; few new fans come along. Though we might blame 4Kids for the shoddy treatment, if OP was faithfully dubbed and still did poorly, who could we blame?
The American people, of course. I say Americans because OP is popular in other countries and America has a rich pirate history, much like the Caribbean. People don't want to learn about history; why, I cannot say, but it's the histories of other countries that prove fascinating. The US has no real cultural history prior to 1789; as such, we really care little about our own small past. Hence, Naruto & InuYasha are popular, as is Dragonball. By comparison, OP looks American; I mean, the running joke of the whole series is that _there are no real pirates in the series. Most of the battles occur on land and they're wacky like Looney Tunes/Tom & Jerry, but the series has a youthful comedy and the heart of a touching drama.
In the end, OP just doesn't transcend cultural boundries. 4Kids is who we blame, but there's no one really to blame but ourselves. :sad:_
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Im not going to blame mysef for 4kids changing a whale to an iceburg
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Eh, I tried spreading One Piece to my friends, but they are even more slow-minded than me and they have closed minds. They have created comments and clearly show they have the wrong view of One Piece…
Me: Hey! Did you see that Mr.2 guy in that Dub Piece video I e-mailed you? That fandub was hilarious!
Him: Oh? That gay guy? Man if I was Luffy, I would have made him walk the plank.
Me: Err... but Strawhat pirates aren't actually like those other kinds of pirates...
Other Friend: You know what I don't like about One Piece? All of the girls look the same! I mean, I was like, hey how come there's two Namis? Oh, that's VIVI? Ohhh!
Me: Err... they might have the same faces... but it's so easy to tell them apart...
Other Friend: The One Piece is okay, but the music is bad.
Me: No it isn't. Why does everyone not like the "We Are!" opening?
Other Friend: We Are? What the hell? It's called the One Piece rap!
Me: ...not that song... the original has a much better theme... =_=
One Other Friend: Man, but I don't like One Piece because the artwork is kinda weird looking. You know what I'm saying?
Me: I like the art... it's fresh... and kinda original.I don't know if anyone bothered to read that, but don't worry. It's nothing important. Just something to get off my back.
The point is... One Piece is now being so darn generalized, it's really hard to get these people out of the dark. I tried to show them a few clips of the original One Piece, but they kept ignoring me, they just didn't really care. They couldn't even find the Dub Piece Pilot video funny. :\
And for my online buddies, they hate anything that's a Shonen anime and has more than 100 episodes, since they have experienced too many shonen anime going bad after 100 episodes.
...yea I need more open-minded friends here. :\
And... btw... I only got into One Piece through the dub. I had so hated the dub though, and I thought One Piece was lame as heck. My friend strangled me and gave me his HK bootleg DVDs. And there on... you see the One Piece Flying Chicken today...
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I know how you feel. I told my stepbrother's girlfriend about One Piece and she says she doesn't like the art style.
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People, have you try to spread through forums? Because im going to do it now. So Please try your best and dont give up on One Piece!
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Sure spreading the news about the sub is good, but most people still continue to watch the dub…
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well my point is that One Piece is great and they should learn the truth especially the people who watch dub first and never like it again. So i want to prove them wrong and help out them.
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well my point is that One Piece is great and they should learn the truth especially the people who watch dub first and never like it again. So i want to prove them wrong and help out them.
It's all an opinion though…
I'll help in your cause, but lets not try to shove it down their throats, okay?
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I've been trying on the CAA Forums, and I've actually gotten quite a few to like it now (just got another yesterday ^_^ ). There are still some that haven't given it a chance, and… make me want to bite their head off...
Especially this one girl (who's freakin' in love with Rurouni Kenshin), who keep saying she thought One Piece was boring and that she doesn't like the art style (actually, her and a few others keep claiming it's "crappy" >_< ). Me and my friend Nate tried to convince her that it is good, and that if she doesn't like to art, to simply look past it and see what a good story it is.
She still doesn't get it, but that's okay. I'll move on to others till she has no choice but to join! XDAnd look at the 4Kids forums! I mean, I think I've finally found a way to get through to them.
Don't yell and call them stupid. Debate, sure, to an extent, if need be, but tell them what they WANT, which is: FREE ONE PIECE!!
I've already got three dubbies (maybe more soon) who want to know more, and several others there have already rejected the dub thanks to YouTube.I'm almost attempting to do so through school. I actually have a clear-cover folder with the "Mugiwara vs. CP9" color walk, and it's been getting alot of attention (prime oppurtunity, ne?).
If I could just find a way to spread Christianity like this... XD
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I've been spreading the word about how bad the OP dub is to those who've seen it. Most of my closest friends are dubbies, and I've shown them Sonique's site. Now they think that 4Kids's edits are stupid. :) Sadly, they still want the show back on at 4Kids.TV :( I tried getting my friends to stop watching the dub, but now I can't remember why they still do. Tomorrow, I'll still keep spreading the word about the dub not being watchable.
Maybe some time, I'll register on the 4Kids Forum and try to spread it. :D
What kind of things should I tell them?Oh! Should I also tell them to stop watching the shows on 4Kids.TV, or would I get automatically banned?
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well my point is that One Piece is great and they should learn the truth especially the people who watch dub first and never like it again. So i want to prove them wrong and help out them.
You're really into this aren't you? lol What passion… :P
No, I'm not trying to make fun of you, this is just one of those rare moments where I see one guy trying desperately to make a difference. I'm feeling all fired up again, just like from reading Sonique's site.
Oh! Should I also tell them to stop watching the shows on 4Kids.TV, or would I get automatically banned?
Most likely they'll just not let your post get through. Unless they feel that it's fair game and doesn't violate their rules in any way.
Posting on the 4kids forum really sucks though, since you're not allowed to use your own avatar (for obvious reasons, I know) and your post doesn't appear until it's verified by the mods. At least, that's what I think is taking the posts people make a long time to actually appear on the forum… oh yea... I don't think links and images work either... =_=
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I've been trying to convince my friends to watch it, but they would not even try it bcoz as what other ppl commented, the art is crappy and the women are lame. The boobs are so humongous yet the hip is so narrow. Not proportional. Thus, they didn't even try.
Hmm.. I can join the forum that you guys are trying to persuade ppl into it and be an anonymous OP-fan and say good things about one piece. The more ppl saying it, the better others are convinced!? what about that!?
or we could all join that forum and pretend as some OP-fans and talk about it and bla bla bla.. talk ppl into it..
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Oh! Should I also tell them to stop watching the shows on 4Kids.TV, or would I get automatically banned?
Heh, you'd be surprised what kind of stuff gets through there. XD
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Okay, so maybe I won't, but thanks for the advice, Myoti and Yari-Yari.
I'll think of another way to help us stop Kahn. :) -
My another point is that people who dont watch One Piece with stupid reasons like 4kids, should realized it. Not only us should how great this show is but other people as well. Going 4kids forum will be good, but you dont need to tell them to stop watching even though i dont watch it. lol…yea im one guy who try to make a difference. But i believe this difference can be great! I mean come on, this show is more popular than Naruto. Lets face it. Please guys, dont give up!!
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My another point is that people who dont watch One Piece with stupid reasons like 4kids, should realized it. Not only us should how great this show is but other people as well. Going 4kids forum will be good, but you dont need to tell them to stop watching even though i dont watch it. lol…yea im one guy who try to make a difference. But i believe this difference can be great! I mean come on, this show is more popular than Naruto. Lets face it. Please guys, dont give up!!
In Japan that is…
But Naruto has always had a bigger fanbase here in the U.S.
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And it never will be bigger than naruto. Unless some how 4kids lose there rights.
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I know that, it just that One Piece deserve better than now. Lets give our best please!
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I know that, it just that One Piece deserve better than now. Lets give our best please!
Well, as we said, we've been doing this very thing.
But… Let's not shove it down people's throats, as I said. That'll make them... Hate it.
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Well when i went to other forums, i see people is talking about One Piece is good. Hopefully, you can make a difference. Please support One Piece and show the world what it really is.
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which forum did you go?
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I think Youtube is the best tool in showing people the original One Piece. Thanks to some wonderful individuals, lots of K-F and Gerusama's fansubs have been uploaded on there. It's an excellent place for those of us who don't have Bit Torrent and/or share a computer, leading to downloading restrictions. It's just easily accessible, which is what I'm trying to say.
However, as RomanGod said, do not ram it down people's throats. That's why I dislike Inuyasha so much - it got rammed down my throat by so many people that I have trouble accepting it no matter how good or how terrible it is.
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@mumbo230:
I think Youtube is the best tool in showing people the original One Piece. Thanks to some wonderful individuals, lots of K-F and Gerusama's fansubs have been uploaded on there. It's an excellent place for those of us who don't have Bit Torrent and/or share a computer, leading to downloading restrictions. It's just easily accessible, which is what I'm trying to say.
However, as RomanGod said, do not ram it down people's throats. That's why I dislike Inuyasha so much - it got rammed down my throat by so many people that I have trouble accepting it no matter how good or how terrible it is.
Yea, great solution. Yea i know im not gonna ram it down people's throats…lol...I just want people to know One Piece. I mean I was surprised when i seen it. So im hoping people will like it. Well if people want to go forums and tell them, try narutofans.
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well narutofans has their own one piece thread.. i've been there and many of them enjoy one piece..
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On another forum that I talk on, I have anti-4kids OP images in my sig.
I managed to convert one person there into an uncut OP fan. He thanked me via PM for showing him this anime.
So, it's not totally impossible to get people to watch the real thing.
Also, if anyone in the US wins the lottery, buy the rights to OP from 4kids, and immediately sell them to Funimation or Geneon/Pioneer (preferably Geneon).
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well narutofans has their own one piece thread.. i've been there and many of them enjoy one piece..
See thats great. Now you should tell to spread.
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@Master:
Also, if anyone in the US wins the lottery, buy the rights to OP from 4kids, and immediately sell them to Funimation or Geneon/Pioneer (preferably Geneon).
Sounds great to me. :happy: Let's all pray that someone HERE would win the lottery and give the rights to someone who cand do a better job.
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@Master:
Also, if anyone in the US wins the lottery, buy the rights to OP from 4kids, and immediately sell them to Funimation or Geneon/Pioneer (preferably Geneon).
Depending on where they plan to air OP. If its Adult Swim that's a good idea but if its on regular time slots, you're going to get pretty much the same objectionable edits and both Funimation and Pioneer have in the past skipped episodes with their shows.
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Found another way we can get 4Kids to give up One Piece: Remember the Jynx incident and when that lady said that Jynx's face offended her, so that made 4Kids change one of Buggy's pirate's skin color? Well how about the adults on this forum can start doing what that lady did, except make complaints about the OP dub? The teens here can educate their parents about the OP dub and tell them how much it offends them. Make it sound horrible until the parents start complaining. NO LIES, PLEASE. ^.^
All of the complaints can go to whoever wants to collect them and mail them to 4Kids Headquarters all at once. I may sound like Sonique, but please be POLITE while writing to 4Kids.