Stanley Williams is dead
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I know that he turned his life around in prison, but I can't really feel bad for a murderer and co-founder of one of America's most infamous gangs.
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A few years later another gang would have been founded IMO..
yet, it's just like Light (death note, for those who don't know) said
It's wrong to kill humans for their past crimes if they changed their life ^^
they could have made it lifelong.. so he could write more books.. and at least TRY to stop a few kids from getting violent.. ^^" -
Yeah, I think it was a shame they killed him, especially since he's been actively anti-gang for the past few years.
the bigot who thinks being an asshole is actually worth shit
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Sad… It's not like the victim's families would feel better with another death.
Gah, others who committed crimes will see less reason to reform, if even a Noble Prize nominee fails to survive.
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Remember kids, human life is priceless and therefore murder is always wrong… If you fail to realize this, you will pay with your life.
What amazes me is that Arnold pretty much gave up any hopes he might have had at being reelected in order to please President Bush and the rest of the far-right Republican "manly-men" (the opponents of the Democratic party's "girly-men"). This action alone cost him more or less the entire black vote, probably most of the hispanic vote, and certainly a sizeable portion of the white vote.
But whatever, the guy was going to die eventually right? Might as well just give him a little push in that direction. Really, the state was just helping to get him there a little bit faster.
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too bad for him but what's up with everyone marching and stuff it's really a waste of good man power and even he's given up on it like someone said if it's
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I refuse to believe that all human life is priceless, and I doubt that mindset will get me killed.
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I refuse to believe that all human life is priceless, and I doubt that mindset will get me killed.
So do I, but some people might not like your opinion xD
Martin Luther King was killed because of his opinion, just like Jesus and so on… ô_o"I'm a bit disappointed because of Arnie as well..
Since I'm austrian myself I can tell there's a whole bunch of people here who deny he was austrian...
It doesn't fit with the austrian morale to "kill" people.. And they don't want other austrians to do so xD
He would've been better off with letting Williams live ~_~ -
Can't say I feel bad about his death. In my opinion, he got what he deserved.
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I feel bad. Not completely because he turned around, but because they killed him. I'll never see the death penalty as anything other than hypocrisy. Though, killing him after all this just shows jail is shit, even if you do turn around some asshole's already marked your grave.
Originally Posted by Battle Franky
Bad move, bub!
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If he comitted the murders, he deserved his fate, but since his plea was to remain in prison, he could have contributed a great deal more to society, provided, of course, his works had a profound impact on people, and not the fabricated conditioning the news media attempts to portray.
Americans are barbaric. Really.
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…who? I have no idea who this is/was
I don't agree with punishment by death.
Law or whatever what gives a person a right to control when someone elses life ends.
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How can you forgive him? when the people who he killed can't?
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Americans are barbaric. Really.
Don't even start that. All humanity is barbaric, borders don't mean shit.
…who? I have no idea who this is/was
I don't agree with punishment by death.
Law or whatever what gives a person a right to control when someone elses life ends.
It isn't hard to Google his name up and read about his case and life. Try again.
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the thing i find most ironic is that the same people who are for the death penalty are the ones who are pro-life.
ooshi78
"Listen, you can send a stripper to my party if you like. It won't affect me because, as you can see, I am appearing naked, which I always try to do because I'm kind of a natural guy."
-kermit the frog
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I'm against death penalties. No matter what the person did, s/he should just live and pay the debt… and SUFFER in prison. Death is just an easy escape
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I'm against death penalties. No matter what the person did, s/he should just live and pay the debt… and SUFFER in prison. Death is just an easy escape
Yeah it's like the old law in England, suicide is punishable by death…
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I've always been against the death penalty. As I looked into this case, I'm a bit half and half on whether or not he was redeemed; he definitely did a lot of great things as an anti-gang activist, but he never said anything about the murders he committed.. But I think he should've just been kept in prison for life.
the thing i find most ironic is that the same people who are for the death penalty are the ones who are pro-life.
ooshi78
QFT. I go to Catholic school so I deal with this crap all the time.
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although I don't have any remorse for what he did. I don't like the death penalty.
In England and the rest of the United Kingdom is was taken away after a man was hung for a serious crime but later after his death, it was found that he was innocent.
I just makes me feel sick and upset when you think how he was brutally hung for something he didn't commit and the feelings he must have felt when he died.
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Americans are barbaric. Really.
I like how this generalization came right after my post.
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Isn't the first step of self-healing and redemption admitting to your own faults?
I don't care how many books he wrote. He never admitted to shooting a man in the back with a shotgun and joking about how he gurgled before dying. Does a book make that better?
How about throwing chemicals at prison guards and sexually assaulting inmates during his "changed life"?
He got precisely what he deserved.
I find it interesting that many individuals AGAINST the death penalty don't care what happens to innocent unborn babies but are willing to show pity to a convicted brutal murderer.
And for the record, I personally could care less what happens to unborn babies.
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You know, regardless of my thoughts on capital punishment, I'd hate to think this guy would be let off because the government felt pressured by the media hype around it. This is what bothered me about the Schiavo case earler this year.
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@omae:
Isn't the first step of self-healing and redemption admitting to your own faults?
I don't care how many books he wrote. He never admitted to shooting a man in the back with a shotgun and joking about how he gurgled before dying. Does a book make that better?
Well, I'm not going against law, but being convicted of something and doing something are two different things.
How about throwing chemicals at prison guards and sexually assaulting inmates during his "changed life"?
He got precisely what he deserved.
He must've been a pretty bad guy originally. I wouldn't expect him to change right after being sentenced. But I dunno about his prison adventures, so I don't defend him there.
I find it interesting that many individuals AGAINST the death penalty don't care what happens to innocent unborn babies but are willing to show pity to a convicted brutal murderer.
And for the record, I personally could care less what happens to unborn babies.
Yeah, pretty interesting. I don't see fetuses as babies, and I don't think any good can come from them being born (given the circumstances) anyway, though.
Originally Posted by Battle Franky
Bad move, bub!
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Well, I'm not going against law, but being convicted of something and doing something are two different things.
One of the most lenient courts in the United States found enough evidence to find him guilty. The man himself joked about the deaths of the people he executed and yet he never confessed to crimes. If you do believe in being able to turn a life around, the first thing is to admit what you've done wrong. Writing a children's book or two doesn't exonerate anyone from choosing to willingly and knowingly murdering a family in cold blood.
Yeah, pretty interesting. I don't see fetuses as babies, and I don't think any good can come from them being born (given the circumstances) anyway, though.
I personally don't have anything against choice unless of course it's something along the lines of partial-birth abortion which is terrible. But I do believe parents should be notified if it is a minor.
That said, I'm also for the death penalty and I really can't see how some people can be anti-death penalty of guilty criminals but pro-choice for innocent babies. You are killing a life regardless of its state. I personally don't have a problem with that but you can't say, "I'm for saving killers but against saving innocent babies that haven't done anything wrong". Well, I mean you could say that but…you know.
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