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    • funkyfunkyusopp
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      Well I never cared till the other night cus I assumed Foxy's Noro Noro power was Logia but I saw a site that said it was a Para…

      Para changes the form of someones body right? I don't see how Noro Noro effects his own body unless it backfires and he hits himself with it.

      I always thought it was Logia cus it seems more.. elementy?

      Which is it?

      Sorry for the dumb question XD

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      • Yoska
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        It's a paramecia. Foxy isn't the beam himself but, quite like as with Mr. 3's fruit, his body structure has been changed (mutated) so that he is able to produce the beam from his hands.

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        • funkyfunkyusopp
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          Ah I get it now. tho I still personaly think times a tad elementy.

          He can only use his beam through his hands and in that way right?

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          • Greg
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            No, because he can't change his body as a whole into the particles. Notice how he was effected by his own attack. And the particles are in fact a beam whereas (Oda mentioned this before and it is quite important) Logia users simply extend a part of their body. Logia users have been able to fine-tune their abilities (see Ace) for long-range attacks, and it would appear that Ener was able to utilize his own body to accumulate/create natural lightning. Foxy's attack is, Like Mr. 3's wax, not so much an extension of his body as it is something he can put forth.

            No matter where you go, there you are.

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            • funkyfunkyusopp
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              Yeah it makes sence now. Thanks for all the info it's just I got diffrent infos from diffrent sites… none being in english... X3

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              • COWMAKAZE
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                On this same note, I've always wondered why Luffy counts as Paramecia. If he's made of rubber so Enel couldn't hurt him, wouldn't that make him Logia? Can someone explain this?

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                • Ivotas
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                  Well the difference is that Luffy´s human body is rubber. But it still is a human body. It can´t completely change shape to become rubber itself, like Enel for instance can become lighting, Ace fire, Smoker smoke or Crocodile sand.

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                  • Malintex_Terek
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                    Paramecia is really too broad a term to lump in all the fruits that are "not Logia and not Zoan". What's the common trend between Mr.1, Mr.3, and Luffy? Steel, Wax, Rubber; they're all compound agents, but still made from natural materials. One could argue for Mr.5 to be classified in the same way, as his body's explosive material, whether it be gunpowder or trinitrotoluene, has a root in chemistry.

                    On the other hand, we have fruits like Bellamy and Blueno, regarding man-made structures, and the "unexplained" like Buggy and Alvida. Maybe someone should ask Oda about clarifying distinctions…

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                    • N
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                      From the old AP:
                      Paramecia: Where the devil fruit changes the physical body itself.
                      Zoan: Where the devil fruit allows the person to turn into an animal. With a Zoan fruit, they can take a form of Human, Half Animal Half Human, and Animal.
                      Logia: Where the devil fruit allows the person to completely transform into their devil fruit and control it (Ex. Fire). This is the strongest type of devil fruit.

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                      • Greg
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                        Paramecia is really too broad a term to lump in all the fruits that are "not Logia and not Zoan".

                        Broad or not, that is how Oda has defined them as of this time.

                        No matter where you go, there you are.

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                        • B
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                          Also, take a lesson from the real world into account: there's always exceptions to the "rules" of nature. Mercury is a liquid metal and there are mammals that lay eggs and male seahorses that carry young and give birth.

                          For all we know, Oda may introduce fruits that don't conform to the three know families at all.

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                          • Rakuen
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                            how would something like that look like?

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                            • LightningAce
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                              @Bloodfoot:

                              Also, take a lesson from the real world into account: there's always exceptions to the "rules" of nature. Mercury is a liquid metal and there are mammals that lay eggs and male seahorses that carry young and give birth.

                              For all we know, Oda may introduce fruits that don't conform to the three know families at all.

                              I guess that could be the case with Flamingo if he does infact have a DF- since his ability doesn't really fit in with other devil's fruits seen.

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                              • funkyfunkyusopp
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                                Maybe theres more types.. just not made yet… like maybe a 4th section. 'freaky unexplained crap' section.

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                                • Onigumo
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                                  I had these thoughts about Doflamingo's weird power. And to a lesser extent Robins power. I was thinking a fourth power would be to affect the environment around them in particular ways. (be it controlling other people or making your body parts grow where you want them to go.)

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                                  • Ivotas
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                                    I think three types is more then enough to cover all the categories. Zoans are the creature powers, logia are elemental powers and paramecia are the wide territory of whack and innovative superpowers that don´t fall in the other two categories. I seriously see no need for a fourth group.

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