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    • Power
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      I don't know if anyone has discussed this before as i've been away from the op manga scene for a few weeks now, but has anyone realized that luffy has already found a way to counter the Hie Hie fruit.

      If he emits steam from his body, he should be able to counter the freezing effect, thus enabling him to thaw himself out.

      LUFFY K ICKS ASS

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        Steam able to melt a dude's ability that could freeze the ocean for a week? Not likely. :sleep:

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          Simple,Luffy learns how to use a flamethrower.

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          SONS OF coocoo

          THE DUB HAS RETURNED!!!!

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            I think it would be awesome if Usopp stands about a hundred yards away sniping Ao Kiji with flame stars and and other explosive materials, while Luffy beats the crap out of Ao Kiji in hand to hand combat, while Ao Kiji abilities are nullified by Usopp's arsenal.

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              It's kinda not Luffy's style to need help to beat someone. If he can't beat him alone, then he isn't the strongest man in the world so he can't be called a pirate king…

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                Chopper did thaw Luffy and the others. So, I think it's possible.

                Also over heat might kill Luffy, he might break as Chopper said.

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                • Power
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                  @Janken:

                  Steam able to melt a dude's ability that could freeze the ocean for a week? Not likely. :sleep:

                  yes thats true, but i think its much harder to freeze a boiling kettle than it is to freeze a kettle which isn't…
                  also if you manage to freeze a kettle and you start boiling from the inside, it will eventually thaw out on its own (picture an electric kettle)

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                    @Power:

                    yes thats true, but i think its much harder to freeze a boiling kettle than it is to freeze a kettle which isn't…
                    also if you manage to freeze a kettle and you start boiling from the inside, it will eventually thaw out on its own (picture an electric kettle)

                    I agree, but the thing is, I don't think Ao would have that problem. I'm not sure, but I don't think Luffy can even do that steam trick again. But if he could, I think it'd be a moot point. If Luffy can emit steam from his body, I think Ao could just lower the temperature to make it normal or even colder if he wanted to.

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                      I think that the answer is salt. After all, what is the main ingredient in those ice melters you put on your driveway? salt. But if it isn't, I'm sure Oda's answer will make sense chemically.

                      If I think I'm insane, does it mean I'm not? Because a truly insane person wouldn't know that they are insane?

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                        In the main fight against Aokiji for sure Ace will come out to pwn him.

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                        • Comander Luffy
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                          In the main fight against Aokiji for sure Ace will come out to pwn him.

                          Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm….....................

                          I still say Flamethrower.

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                            I don't think Luffy will ever beat Ao Kiji. I think someone else will, like Ace for example.

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                              @Onigumo:

                              I think that the answer is salt. After all, what is the main ingredient in those ice melters you put on your driveway? salt. But if it isn't, I'm sure Oda's answer will make sense chemically.

                              Sorry, but salt (NACL) have no effect when it gets colder than -15 C, but you can get some salt which do, down to the temperature of -20 –> -30 C.

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                                Franky can breathe fire. Just get him to take care of it.

                                That, or no will really bother to fight him again (except maybe a villain; remember, Aokiji isn't exactly a villain).

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                                    Let's see…..I would like to see Luffy using Gear 2 on Aokiji or Gear 3

                                    Remamber? Luffy tried to use "Gomu Gomu no Storm" On Aokiji but he was to fast for Luffy and uses "Ice Age" on Luffy very quickly. I wonder what happens if he uses "Gomu Gomu no Jet Storm" on Aokiji? Or "Gomu Gomu no Jet Gating Gun"?

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                                      It's simple, Luffy just needs to set himself on fire and fight that way. Problem solved.

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                                        LUFFY SUMMONS IFRIT!
                                        9999 DMG TO AOKIJI!

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                                          How would Luffy be able to make steam if a part of his body is frozen, because if he moves an inch he would run the risk of breaking his body.

                                          -OFF TOPIC-

                                          How did Luffy even make steam in the first place.😕

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                                            @Myoti:

                                            He could always smack him around with that anti-hotlinking sign. XD

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                                              Luffy summons the god of sun to shower down a billion degrees fire on on Aokiji. Score dudes.

                                              Aokiji: OO ARARARRARARA!!!! THAT'S HOT!! "Dies"

                                              Luffy: I won!! "Wangburates"
                                              Nami: Luffy! STOP THAT!! "Hits him hard in the head"
                                              Usopp: Hey! god of sun! give me a billion degrees star
                                              Franky: "Pushs Usopp away" Don't be crazy dude. Hey god of sun, make my fire breath billion degrees!

                                              "Meanwhile in Mariejoa"
                                              Sangoku: So Aokiji been defeated by Monkey D. Luffy correct?
                                              Red Dog: Yep
                                              Yellow Monkey: What the hell is wrong with the bounty hunters these days.
                                              Gorousei: "Sigh" Why are we dumbasses?

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                                                @Chiyo-chan:

                                                It's simple, Luffy just needs to set himself on fire and fight that way. Problem solved.

                                                Great message for the kids: set yourself on fire and you can do anything

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                                                  I don't see why not. Zoro set his swords on fire.

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                                                    @captain:

                                                    Great message for the kids: set yourself on fire and you can do anything

                                                    Ahem, if you like to keep with that thought then look at the total picture. It´s not "you can do anything" what you tell the kids it´s the message that "you can deal with ice dudes" that you deliver to kids. And since ice dudes aren´t a thing that exist in the real world I don´t think that the message would be that much of a problem after all. 😉

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                                                      Nami, Usopp and Franky can use fiery attacks.

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                                                        if ao kiji is one of the strongest is defeat by luffy,
                                                        aka inu and ki zaru will catch luffy … or even sengoku himself will go out.

                                                        but, when ao kiji freeze luffy, he said that smoker has told him about luffy, anybody knows what is smoker talking about?

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                                                          Better yet we have a rematch with Enel after he has toasted Ao and has plans to take over the entire blue sea. Assuming he didnt drown 😄

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                                                            Better yet we have a rematch with Enel after he has toasted Ao and has plans to take over the entire blue sea. Assuming he didnt drown

                                                            What?


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                                                              You got to be kidding me!

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                                                                i'm confused….........

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                                                                  @dewagila:

                                                                  if ao kiji is one of the strongest is defeat by luffy,
                                                                  aka inu and ki zaru will catch luffy … or even sengoku himself will go out.

                                                                  but, when ao kiji freeze luffy, he said that smoker has told him about luffy, anybody knows what is smoker talking about?

                                                                  Smoker most likely said something like "He's the only pirate who smiled when facing death, just like the Pirate King, 20 years ago" or "The gods protect this boy" O_o

                                                                  to pull a Vivi, v.

                                                                  to stick to a certain group of people, principle, ideal, etc. for an extended period of time just to jump off due to an ulterior motif at the very last, frickin moment.

                                                                  1\. I left my wife for you! Now don't pull a Vivi on me!

                                                                  2\. I've got to pull a Vivi: No more beer for me…

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                                                                    He could always smack him around with that anti-hotlinking sign.

                                                                    Yay for 20 characters! XD

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                                                                      It was a bad joke on what might kill ao kiji. I'm more leaning towards that they dont fight or something else deals with him.

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                                                                        I think he's going to return at some point during the current storyline.

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                                                                          Just have luffy blow Aokige up.

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                                                                            How the hell is Luffy going to blow him up?

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                                                                              the next time luffy see ao kiji he'll just run, just as he sees smoker 😛

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                                                                                was i the only one that thought that frankys flame thrower was the anti-aokiji strategy?

                                                                                I recommend: Peerless Martial God, Renegade Immortal, Gourmet of Another World, Trash of the Counts Family and The Great Ruler

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                                                                                  I dunno…...I was GONNA say it would be disappointing if Franky fought Ao Kiji after all this, but then it occured to me...

                                                                                  Luffy wants 11 crewmembers (ten plus himself) as best I can figure

                                                                                  There are Seven Suichibaki

                                                                                  There are THREE supreme grand admirals (pluss whatsits the buddah)

                                                                                  That's eleven on eleven, friend. It also works if you think Luffy meant himself included when he said ten men, maybe Buddah doesn't fight.

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                                                                                    @Praxis:

                                                                                    It was a bad joke on what might kill ao kiji. I'm more leaning towards that they dont fight or something else deals with him.

                                                                                    i agree with you … ao kiji is not as bad as spanda(m)
                                                                                    he seem to be had a good relationship with luffys grandfather also ...

                                                                                    someday, may be in the next 300 eps, dragon, 3 admiral, and sengoku will be met in one place.

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                                                                                      Guys, ever think Ao-Kiji might appear again after Luffy has defeated Rob Lucci? For some reason, Lucci just doesn't seem like a strong enough opponent to be the final bad guy of this arc. It looks as well as if the entire CP9 team is being heavily downplayed in the manga right now, with Blueno's easy defeat and the relatively short amount of time it took the Strawhats to reach CP9 once they arrived at Enies Lobby. I could be totally wrong on this one. Also Ao-Kiji is the whole reason why the Strawhats are involved in this whole ordeal in the first place, don't forget.

                                                                                      I still think the CP9 will be very formidable opponents but I don't think they're as "grand" as characters like Arlong, Crocodile and Enel. Not enough to be the final opponent anyway. Maybe Ao-Kiji is orchastrating this whole thing but once he realizes that his plan has gone to shit he appears and confronts matters himself. Maybe not.

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                                                                                        @Voodzik:

                                                                                        I dunno…...I was GONNA say it would be disappointing if Franky fought Ao Kiji after all this, but then it occured to me...

                                                                                        Luffy wants 11 crewmembers (ten plus himself) as best I can figure

                                                                                        There are Seven Suichibaki

                                                                                        There are THREE supreme grand admirals (pluss whatsits the buddah)

                                                                                        That's eleven on eleven, friend. It also works if you think Luffy meant himself included when he said ten men, maybe Buddah doesn't fight.

                                                                                        well the thing is, luffy can't continue to fight the strongest person every time, that's just too predictable, it needs to be mixed up every now and then.

                                                                                        I recommend: Peerless Martial God, Renegade Immortal, Gourmet of Another World, Trash of the Counts Family and The Great Ruler

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                                                                                          How the hell is Luffy going to blow him up?

                                                                                          Sodium.

                                                                                          Just imagine it, luffy killing Aokiji by passing the salt during a meal.

                                                                                          I think it's good that the captain is always fighting the "Strongest" enemy, or rather the "captain" opponents. He is the captain, and Lucci is basically the "captain" of CP9, for instance. Of course, I think Oda should add in scenarios where Luffy's crewmates have specific reason to fight the strongest member of an opposing group, for instance, I really doubt Luffy will be the one to face off with Mihawk.

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                                                                                            @Oro:

                                                                                            For some reason, Lucci just doesn't seem like a strong enough opponent to be the final bad guy of this arc.

                                                                                            He's friggin' 5 times Blueno's power.. :mellow:

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                                                                                              He's friggin' 5 times Blueno's power.. :mellow:

                                                                                              I know what Oro Jackson's talking about here, kind of….Lucci is STRONG, but he's got a fairly limited number of possible abilities, or at least it looks like he does. Luffy normally fights guys with massive ability lists to round off arcs, people with close to as many skills as he does.

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                                                                                                @Voodzik:

                                                                                                I know what Oro Jackson's talking about here, kind of….Lucci is STRONG, but he's got a fairly limited number of possible abilities, or at least it looks like he does. Luffy normally fights guys with massive ability lists to round off arcs, people with close to as many skills as he does.

                                                                                                Wrong… we've barely seen him using his Devil Fruit powers yet. Keep in mind that Leopards have more choices to attack a human with, such as a tail or it's sharp teeth, or claws, therefore I don't think that it will merely be powered up Rokushiki. Look at Blueno for example. And besides, I think some might have mentioned the variations such as tekkai sai and rankyaku sen.

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                                                                                                  That's true, but really all the CP9 members have the same problem for me. They seem so….so BLAND.

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                                                                                                    Oh well, time will tell. Somehow I think that Aokiji turning up now would be way too early.

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                                                                                                      Well I'd be disappointed if Aokiji were to just show this late into the Arc. Lucci's not strong enough? The guy sliced Galley-La in two with a single kick! Luffy hasn't even shown that much destructive power on his own. Ao might show up when everyone's gone, but I feel like it's too soon to just have Luffy and him fight one of the three strongest soldiers in the world.

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                                                                                                        I'm with Janken Jack…too soon for a fight with Ao Kiji. I still find CP9 totally vanilla.

                                                                                                        Riding a Rhino is safer so we Ride a Hippo for Adventure!

                                                                                                        ~Bobobobo BO-bobo~

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