Some jump streams popped up in my feed!
JUMP Super Stage
JUMP Super Stage Blue
JUMP Studio
Jump Festa 2024
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sorry to say but all i see is video unavailable
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Looks like World Trigger panel on Super Stage Blue right now.
@Lucifer said in Jump Festa 2024:
sorry to say but all i see is video unavailable
Guessing your location is a blocked location?
Bleach trailer on Thousand-Year Blood War Part 3 (wow I almost didn't catch my typo of Thousand Year Door before posting) I haven't watched any of this yet but I should remember to
Hmm some One Piece pics from the twitter land at least?
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A pity, I'll be in deep sleep when we get the One Piece news. Please, leave them here when they are out.
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VAs are on Red Stage right now.
New themes for Egghead on January 7th, 2024.
- Opening: 'Aaah!' by Hiroshi Kitadani
- Ending: 'Dear Sunrise' by Maki Otsuki
New VAs:
- Dr. Vegapunk: Yohei Tadano
- Shaka: Shuhei Sakaguchi
- Lilith: Aya Hirano
- Edison: Ryoko Shiraishi
- Pythagoras: Tokuyoshi Kawashima
- Atlas: Kaede Hondo
- York: Mutsumi Tamara
Singing Family song, haven't heard that one in a long while.
Oda has a letter but I'm sure other people are already on it on putting up the TL
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Oh what is this?
Also, I knew Kitadani was going to do the new OP! He's the best fit to do the OP that starts off the final saga.
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Anime E3 is so much fun
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I've wanted this for so long thinking it would never happen, I'm scared to hope that it could possibly live up to the version in my head. God damn, I never thought I'd see the day.
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Oda's message: Source: @WSJ_manga at Twitter.
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Did he just say that he was ready to skip Elbaf? For once I'm glad with his obsession to draw everything he comes up with.
Also seems like Elbaf might be the island where current yonko all meet and fight for the final poneglyph.
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I would have liked Oda to spend a little more time on the manga in his message. I get the need to hype up and celebrate the success of the live action and Film Red, it's been a hell of a year for that kind of thing, but come on, give us another wildly optimistic timeline for the manga's ending!
But even then, telling that he'd considered a route that skips Elbaf and that he's chosen to let Luffy take him there anyway speaks volumes about how long this is going to take and how committed he is to doing it the right way. It's a good sign.
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There's still so much to go through, even when we're winding down. Like the Kuma-Bonney stuff is still not over, even though it was glossing over some stuff in the beginning, which is good! At this point the series will end when it ends; I really can't put a hard number on it, even now.
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Oda doesnât sound like heâs talking about Elbaf to me. We might be getting another arc before that.
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@Dahaka said in Jump Festa 2024:
Did he just say that he was ready to skip Elbaf? For once I'm glad with his obsession to draw everything he comes up with.
Also seems like Elbaf might be the island where current yonko all meet and fight for the final poneglyph.
That would imply Cross Guild already knows where the other three are, which I somehow donât doubt.
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Oda's message this year is quite confusing, so it can mean literally anything...
The "new" anime project with Netflix and Wit Studio is a big no for me, but at least we will get the Monters anime adaptation, which is cool.
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@Zin-Magala I agree. It feels Oda is talking about somewhere else, a place "he" doesn't want to go, but he can't go against Luffy's wishes. I wonder if we are going to Mary Geoise instead? I can't think of any other place worth of a detour.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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@Deicide said in Jump Festa 2024:
@Zin-Magala I agree. It feels Oda is talking about somewhere else, a place "he" doesn't want to go, but he can't go against Luffy's wishes. I wonder if we are going to Mary Geoise instead?
One idea Iâve seen is that Vegapunk will go to Wano so that he can cure the Smile fruit victims.
I think having them not be forced to laugh at corpses of their loved ones is something Luffy would want, but then again, maybe Oda wouldnât do something like that.
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Hachinosu was the first place that popped in my head. We still need to see Luffy's reaction to the Garp situation.
It doesn't make sense to me that Oda would want to skip or avoid Elbaf.
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@Zin-Magala said in Jump Festa 2024:
Hachinosu was the first place that popped in my head. We still need to see Luffy's reaction to the Garp situation.
Good point, thought Hachinosu as a location feels so bland, and what could there be to taking from there?
@Zin-Magala said in Jump Festa 2024:
It doesn't make sense to me that Oda would want to skip or avoid Elbaf.
I think it's just a Fishman Island situation:
- Water 7: "Next island the log is pointing to is Fishman Island!"
- Thriller Bark on the way
- Need to go to Sabaody
- Crew scattered
- Amazon Lily
- Impel Down
- Marineford
- Timeskip
- Sabaody again
- Fishman Island, finally!
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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Calling Hachinosu bland is probably why Oda wanted to skip it. lol
Garp's fate is a big one. It would be another big despair moment for Luffy, much like Ace's death. This time his crew will be with him to experience this side of him and try to help him bounce back. Luffy wasn't able to save Ace so there should be an increase desire to save him.
If Oda plans to kill off Garp, it could be the way he does it. Im might see this opportunity to wipe out Hachinosu and take out Luffy and Blackbeard in the process, which would reveal the WG has such a weapon. Teach having Pluton at this point could also be a possibility. The SHs wouldn't want the BB Pirates to have that.
Depending on how the WG reacts to the situation, this could be the point where the Marine schism happens with Koby and co. on one side and Akainu on the other.
Just a few ideas, I don't have all the details ironed out. I'm waiting to see what happens in Egghead before going too deep in that rabbit hole. lol
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@Deicide said in Jump Festa 2024:
@Zin-Magala I agree. It feels Oda is talking about somewhere else, a place "he" doesn't want to go, but he can't go against Luffy's wishes. I wonder if we are going to Mary Geoise instead? I can't think of any other place worth of a detour.
Well, he did mention it was an "island", which Mary Geoise isn't.
I agree that it might be Hachinosu, because it's the only place where "that thing", "that island" and "that fight" all make sense in one go (Garp vs. BB Pirates at Hachinosu). It also gives Smoker an opportunity to return since I would expect him to follow up on Garp's actions.
"That thing" could be the Hachinosu treasure mentioned in the God Valley flashback, assuming it was not a DF.
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@King-Cannon said in Jump Festa 2024:
Well, he did mention it was an "island", which Mary Geoise isn't.
Well, technically Red Line is formed by several islands fused together...
But I don't think we should take the message literally anyway. The best way to keep people guessing on "that island" is not making it an actual island at all.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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Yeah! I too don't think Oda was talking about Elbaf.
Hachinosu is good guess since Oda talked about 'that thing'. Garp in this flashback also talked about a 'treasure', that belonged to Hachinosu ,which the world nobles stole(I don't believe it was DF) and Rocks attacked God Valley for it. -
But to Oda, the manga seems to be a afterthought these days. He is more focused on Netflix and Hollywood.
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Anime reboot is something I would be looking forward to, unless they plan to make it an adaptation of the live action adaptation. No way they're going to cover the full story if Netflix is involved, 4 seasons is probably the most we should ever expect, but... I've been itching to see a modern, more streamlined take on One Piece for years. Something with less fillers and action that gets straight to the point. Even a single season of this could be pure gold, so fingers crossed !
Manga part...Well, to call it cryptic would be a contender for understatement of the year. The last part, especially, references "that" thing so much that it's almost a jab thrown in self-derision.
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Oda also pointed out that the log pose is fixed on Elbaf so a detour isn't out of the question. That means the third one should be fixed on Law's direction and if we leave Egghead and no one on the ship knows the location of Hachinosu (unless I missed something), then the SHs might go that way first. It would be a way to get Law back into the story. I'm sure Luffy won't be happy when he finds out what happened to him.
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@Deicide said in Jump Festa 2024:
@King-Cannon said in Jump Festa 2024:
Well, he did mention it was an "island", which Mary Geoise isn't.
Well, technically Red Line is formed by several islands fused together...
But I don't think we should take the message literally anyway. The best way to keep people guessing on "that island" is not making it an actual island at all.
There's not much of a reason to go to Mary Geoise anyway. Neither Sabo nor Vivi are there.
Hachinosu is close enough to allow a quick detour. And if Avalo is present, it can make for an interesting adventure.
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@King-Cannon said in Jump Festa 2024:
There's not much of a reason to go to Mary Geoise anyway. Neither Sabo nor Vivi are there.
There's a whole lot of developments still about to happen in the coming months.
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@Zin-Magala said in Jump Festa 2024:
Oda also pointed out that the log pose is fixed on Elbaf so a detour isn't out of the question. That means the third one should be fixed on Law's direction and if we leave Egghead and no one on the ship knows the location of Hachinosu (unless I missed something), then the SHs might go that way first. It would be a way to get Law back into the story. I'm sure Luffy won't be happy when he finds out what happened to him.
Law also should know how to get to Hachinosu since he's already been there, so it's another convenient plot device if Luffy needs an immediate way to reach the island.
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My feelings for Odaâs comment are that he wanted to delay Elbaf for a bit, but doesnât know if he will be able to stop Luffy from wanting to go there.
He thought of a trap that stops them from going to Elbaf, which could be the Fire Marked Man and his ship which creates Whirlpools. He has the last Poneglyph, which could be the âthingâ Oda mentions. Having all poneglyphs, Luffy can go to Elbaf to face the other Emperors.(Sidenote: Luffy is an awesome protagonist. I love how Oda treats his characters and feels them alive)
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Well that goes back to my VP post in the chapter discussion about how when something is announced as a plan, it most likely doesn't go the way it was designed.
My thoughts on this from 1090
I'm seeing OP Twitter say Egghead ends 2024. That isn't how I read it, but okay I guess.
I even seen 1 comment say "how much can there be left in Egghead". We have a whole character in VP to unravel. Maybe the Kuma/Bonney stuff has been going on for so long for some to remember, but he is a princess of this arc as well.
On top of that, there are a couple VAs here.
I would add the part that i've refused to let go.
- VP talked to Luffy about how the route to where they escaped the Pacifista should have looked like an impassible wall in 1067.
- In 1101, VP said half of what they see on Egghead is a hologram.
- Hologram lessons in 1062
I think their escape and those believing they were done in is connected to some hologram trick. Would be wild if this returned to Baldimore where VP originated. It is all the way in Paradise tho...
Franky might copy Tairomo and become an animal cyborg. This would mark the return of the Sacred Burning Beast of Baldimore incident.
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@Cockycent said in Jump Festa 2024:
I'm seeing OP Twitter say Egghead ends 2024. That isn't how I read it, but okay I guess.
I'm among those who expect Egghead to still have quite a lot to show, around 30 chapters after the flashback ends, which would still happen this year barring extreme circunstances (2023 had the least amount of chapters since ever, and it still reached 32 chapters).
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@Chams-0 said in Jump Festa 2024:
My feelings for Odaâs comment are that he wanted to delay Elbaf for a bit, but doesnât know if he will be able to stop Luffy from wanting to go there.
He thought of a trap that stops them from going to Elbaf, which could be the Fire Marked Man and his ship which creates Whirlpools. He has the last Poneglyph, which could be the âthingâ Oda mentions. Having all poneglyphs, Luffy can go to Elbaf to face the other Emperors.(Sidenote: Luffy is an awesome protagonist. I love how Oda treats his characters and feels them alive)
He would need to fight the man in question in an island, so a stop would be necessary anyway. Having a fight in a ship would be impractical due to the number of characters involved and Jinbe would break any tension.
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@Deicide said in Jump Festa 2024:
@Zin-Magala said in Jump Festa 2024:
Hachinosu was the first place that popped in my head. We still need to see Luffy's reaction to the Garp situation.
Good point, thought Hachinosu as a location feels so bland, and what could there be to taking from there?
@Zin-Magala said in Jump Festa 2024:
It doesn't make sense to me that Oda would want to skip or avoid Elbaf.
I think it's just a Fishman Island situation:
- Water 7: "Next island the log is pointing to is Fishman Island!"
- Thriller Bark on the way
- Need to go to Sabaody
- Crew scattered
- Amazon Lily
- Impel Down
- Marineford
- Timeskip
- Sabaody again
- Fishman Island, finally!
Yep, Iâm sure many people assumed theyâd go to Fish-Man Island right after Sabaody, and yet each of them went to different islands right after that.
It just goes to show, Oda can change up thing whenever he wants since itâs his manga at the end of the day.
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Is Oda trying to say he wants to go somewhere before Elbaf but he doesnât know how to make it logically so Luffy would agree to that in story? Iâm confused!
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@Shiebs My interpretation of Oda's comment:
if they escape Egghead they'll go to "that" island
Standard hyping up of the next arc. There's one island whose name has come up a couple of times in Egghead as an important destination that the crew would want to go to immediately after departing, so that would be Elbaf.
I thought of a route to not go there
There was a version of the final saga outline, maybe one created in the post-Wano end-of-series planning month break, that skipped the island just being hyped up, with its important info gained from other sources in other ways.
but I can't stop Luffy from going there.
It would be out of character of Luffy to compromise on seeing this next island after it's been built up, (and also Oda just doesn't want to let go of his ideas for it, and he rightfully suspects the fans wouldn't be happy with that level of streamlining).
But that's all based on rough translations, and it seems it's pretty vague even in the original Japanese, so don't take me as the final word.
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@Captain-M cool cool thanks for the response
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This seems to be the official English translation of Oda's message, via the Echiiro Staff twitter:
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The long-awaited clash between THAT PERSON and THAT OTHER PERSON will have an unexpected outcome? Oh so Bartolomeo will embarrass Shanks after all? aight thanks for letting us know Oda
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The long-awaited clash really makes me think Shanks vs. Blackbeard. That's been built up since Marineford.
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Rereading it now, the island could be Elbaf, but at the same time, it may not be. It's so messy.
The confrontation seems to be outside the main story. Two big actors clashing head-on, probably in an inter-arc event between Egghead and the next destination.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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@Deicide said in Jump Festa 2024:
Rereading it now, the island could be Elbaf, but at the same time, it may not be. It's so messy.
The one thing that makes me think it's not Elbaf is that, in-story, Elbaf is already set as their next destination as Vegapunk already indicated the way, so it would be the expected route.
I'm not sure why Oda would talk about it like it's a mystery we're not seeing coming.
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It sounds like the next destination is obviously Elbaf. Oda said that he couldn't even stop Luffy going next if he tried.
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@King-Cannon said in Jump Festa 2024:
The one thing that makes me think it's not Elbaf is that, in-story, Elbaf is already set as their next destination as Vegapunk already indicated the way, so it would be the expected route.
I agree. If it wasn't for Elbaf already being defined as the next destination, it would be 100% about Elbaf. But since it's defined, Oda saying he "doesn't want to go there" feels like we are taking a detour.
@black-leg-jex said in Jump Festa 2024:
It sounds like the next destination is obviously Elbaf. Oda said that he couldn't even stop Luffy going next if he tried.
The problem is that Elbaf is already set as next destination in the story, and it feels like Oda is saying we are taking a detour because Luffy will decide otherwise.
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Elbaf has been a lingering island on our minds since Little Garden, it'd be an odd path for Oda to go "gotcha!" and completely have Luffy and friends pass it by. They've made friends from it, Big Mom's story was connected to it - I can't see that glossed over.
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@black-leg-jex said in Jump Festa 2024:
It sounds like the next destination is obviously Elbaf. Oda said that he couldn't even stop Luffy going next if he tried.
The thing is that Oda claims to have already thought a route for the SH that doesn't involve "THAT ISLAND". That must be the Elbaf route, as Vegapunk already told them to go there and it's the expected outcome post-Egghead.
If Oda, however, says they might not be following that route, then they're not going to Elbaf (at least not immediately), but THAT ISLAND.
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@MetaMario There's a difference between not going there next, and not going there at all. Elbaf is a lot like Fishman Island in that it's a place we've been hyped about for years. And what happened when Fishman Island was set as the next destination? Well, we got Thriller Bark, Sabaody, Amazon Lily, Impel Down, Marineford and the timeskip before we finally went there.
I see a similar situation here, thought I don't think the detour would be so extreme.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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Elbaf cannot be skipped, Oda wouldn't have put Saul on that island if he was thinking of circumventing it. Remember, this is the person who still hails Vickie as one of his alltime favourite shows.
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@King-Cannon said in Jump Festa 2024:
@black-leg-jex said in Jump Festa 2024:
It sounds like the next destination is obviously Elbaf. Oda said that he couldn't even stop Luffy going next if he tried.
The thing is that Oda claims to have already thought a route for the SH that doesn't involve "THAT ISLAND". That must be the Elbaf route, as Vegapunk already told them to go there and it's the expected outcome post-Egghead.
If Oda, however, says they might not be following that route, then they're not going to Elbaf (at least not immediately), but THAT ISLAND.
What? No, that's not what he's saying. THAT island, is 99% in reference to Elbaf. But Oda then says that he has thought of ways to advance the story that doesn't involve them going there, but he's not sure if he could stop Luffy from heading to Elbaf even if he wanted to.
What other island could THAT island be? Laugh Tale? It would be weird for that to be next and for Oda to have come up with a route that doesn't involve it. And Oda wouldn't use THAT island for an island we've never heard of before now. He's definitely talking about Elbaf here, he just doesn't want to outright confirm it as it hasn't been confirmed in the story yet (just hinted at).
