are all the similar female character designs a clone of a legendary pirate??
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Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory
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Anyway, I really dislike this arc.
I don't care about Lucci and CP0.
I surprisingly dont care about Vegapunlk, he has been underwhelming.
For another fucking arc, we are dealing with animal devil fruits. I am sick and tired of them.
I am immensely and utterly disappointed that we saw losers like Kakku and Lucci use awakening but jack, queen and king and Ulti never awakened.
I don't know about you guys, but kumas story just seems incredibly meh to me, I expected something more profound.
Also I am very confused is the stussy from whole cake island the same stussy we are seeing now?
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I do feel Vegapunk is mostly amoral. He may have a semblance of morals, but curiosity, ego and circunstances are enough for him to throw them out of the window and achieve his objectives.
- New idea? Let’s do it and think of consequences later!
- In trouble? Put an ally between it and you. It’s their fault if they can’t handle it.
- Work for the fascist regime? Well, they have money for your research, so….
I hope the story address it at some point.
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@kevo_koma Namiphims, namiphims everywhere
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@kevo_koma Eh, Awakening seems pointless. I can see why Zoans would avoid it. You risk losing reason for what appears to be marginal gain when you can train haki, use your own natural fire powers and wings, give yourself five other powers because science...and then jack idk.
Also i guess Oda didn't want to give them all awakened forms and hybrid forms. It's one or the other otherwise we have zoans transform 3 times just to lose AND that would get repetitive especially since they're already transforming twice.
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Yeah, hopefully we'll get something more from Awakening than physical boost, because if that's all there is to it we'll end up with the same problem we had with Burgess' fruit.
I guess with Lucci/Kaku it was needed anyway to make it easier to believe they managed to catch up with the current level of characters and were not seriously powercrept. But going forward with new characters it might feel like a superfluous addition if hybrid form is "character gets stronger" and awakening is "character gets strongerer" - even if there are no new Zoan enemies to come in the future, at least for Chopper's sake we need Awakening to have some unique set of skills that come with it.
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Really wished the story focused on Vegapunk and Kuma. Their lore has been on the background of the main story ever since Kuma was in Thriller Bark. Bonney's having some great emotional moments, and I think Oda should have delayed the cp0 and Blackbeard stuff (or anticipated Blackbeard to before Egghead).
How funny that One Piece is getting extra tough for casual readers: remember the minor participant of Big Mom's party, who apparently was a governmental agent? Now she's also a clone of a character who had a one-chapter appereance like 23 VOLUMES ago. Good luck for those that don't usually reread OP
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@Chams-0 said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
How funny that One Piece is getting extra tough for casual readers: remember the minor participant of Big Mom's party, who apparently was a governmental agent? Now she's also a clone of a character who had a one-chapter appereance like 23 VOLUMES ago. Good luck for those that don't usually reread OP
It's not like you need anything from the wedding party to understand Stussy the way she is now. Being reintroduced as part of a Cipher Pol squad gives her a clear role and skillset whether you remember seeing her before or not. And now that there's a big reveal putting her in the spotlight she gets a new Odabox introduction.
People do seem to be having a harder time drawing the connection to Buckin on their own though. Maybe the audience could have used a refresher on her when we were seeing the world between arcs.
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@Chams-0 Ms. Buckin also appeared in the Warlord Capture Operation
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@access-timeco said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
Yeah, hopefully we'll get something more from Awakening than physical boost, because if that's all there is to it we'll end up with the same problem we had with Burgess' fruit.
You assume thats the problem with Burgess' fruit. Maybe he can strengthen the foundation your home his built on? Increase the strength of weapons or armor? Increase the strength of a password for some silly gags.
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@karubiDON said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
Of course, I’ve thought Luffy might be a clone of Roger for years and this further hints towards that direction.
If only Luffy was as half decisive as Roger, then more than half of his previous opponents would be officially dead. Even if he was, Oda would still interfere and give the usual vague incapacitated status.
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This cover story got a lot better when it switched to the past of MADS. Hopefully we get some thing to be concrete with the timeline. Also Judge smiling is.....somehow more creepy than anything Queen or CC.
Seeing more applications of Bonney's fruit is exactly what I wanted to see and I love it. Love the stupidity of people falling for her child-form sympathy act. Her age changing being temporary on other livings things does clear up some questionable aspects of her fruit, but I guess we've also removed any potential for her powers being needed for age experiments or powering up the seraphim. Either way, I wanna see more age changing on all parties present on the island. Ideally we'll get some big emotional uncontrolled power waves from her while she's absorbing Kuma's memories. I don't want the memories to be enough to ease her mind and fix things with her, so hope we need a bit more than just that.
Vegapunk's pretty fucked up and I do hope he gets more flack for how hard he pushes people to do terrible things for themselves just for "Science!"
I'm curious how much damage the seraphim are gonna cause before things get messed up with Seraphim orders. They're hitting the entrance/exit, so Lillith, Edison, and the SHs coming might be stuck and need to find another way out. Or spend a little time destroying/removing the rubble. Could end up delaying them long enough for the Seraphim to move elsewhere again.
The Stussy clone reveal would be deserving of it's entire own post, but all I feel like saying is it should be interesting to see what she's up to. The VPs don't need this much of another ally advantage, so I'm pretty hopeful she's got her own agenda here and the mystery person is someone else. It'd be cool if Bakkin and Weevil are hidden in the shadows ready to work with Stussy for something.
It's kinda weird that Robin, Jinbe, Luffy, and Chopper were left missing from the scenes in the main lab. Maybe those 4 all went looking for main VP and Bonney together? If they all did, then with Sanji and Franky leaving too.... Nami and Ussop getting left alone usually ends up being a sign of danger coming... but that's jumping ahead a bit with assumptions. Pythagoras and York were also skipped over. And no clarification on Caribou's location yet either. Vega Force One mech still needs to get dealt with before Lillith can get in it (since that would make the escape too easy).
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Just saw a collage of Lucci being terrorized this arc. He deserves all of it.
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the showcase of Bonney's DF is the best thing in this chapter
She can destroy any object by rewinding time through touching, i think i saw this ability first in Bleach with that orange hair chick
though the distorted future is my favorite technique, i like the paths and stuff
did kuma pulled out his own memories thus became brain dead ? i'm surprised he's stupid enough to obey vegabitch
but it's still unlikely because he showed his true character before marineford
as for the ending, If Oda eventually doesn't give us a rocks flashback and instead shoves it in a movie for money then he would be the absolute worst writer. Red caused enough damage.
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@Captain-M said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
The amount of people still tying Bakkin in comment sections across the internet when the context here makes it crystal clear that the name was meant to be Buckin all along (with the official release even getting it right from the start) is a show that most fans care more about which translation they saw first than they actually do about accuracy. I think if there'd been even one early scan that went with Zolo over Zoro we wouldn't be able to get people to stop saying it today.
Similarly, many fans still say Green Bull since it was translated that way by scans at first (I believe), even though they wouldn't be caught dead referring to any of the other admirals by their English-translated codenames (even though they probably should be translated, but I digress). Is that because it's what they read first? Or because Ryokugyu is a bit of a mouthful for English speakers? Or is it because they'll just go with whatever sounds cooler to them 9 times out of 10, accuracy be damned?
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@IAmTheMilkman I completely agree that the admiral codenames should be translated, they're too descriptive not to be! The inconsistency with it drives me up the wall sometimes. I usually just go with their real names when I'm talking about them.
But yeah, as much as accuracy is the buzzword for why one translation good, another bad, I feel like you see that combination of aesthetics, ease and first in best dressed taking priority more often.
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Red dawg and blue bird 4 lyfe
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Blue Pheasant, Red Dog, Purple Tiger, Green Bull, Pink Rabbit, Black Horse are all fine.
The problem is Yellow Monkey, really. And then there’s Brown Pig.
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I don't see any resemblance between Kuzan and a Pheasant unlike the other admirals
at first a thought it was Peasant which sounded much cooler since he's humble and all kinda made sense.
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@IAmTheMilkman said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
@Captain-M said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
The amount of people still tying Bakkin in comment sections across the internet when the context here makes it crystal clear that the name was meant to be Buckin all along (with the official release even getting it right from the start) is a show that most fans care more about which translation they saw first than they actually do about accuracy. I think if there'd been even one early scan that went with Zolo over Zoro we wouldn't be able to get people to stop saying it today.
Similarly, many fans still say Green Bull since it was translated that way by scans at first (I believe), even though they wouldn't be caught dead referring to any of the other admirals by their English-translated codenames (even though they probably should be translated, but I digress). Is that because it's what they read first? Or because Ryokugyu is a bit of a mouthful for English speakers? Or is it because they'll just go with whatever sounds cooler to them 9 times out of 10, accuracy be damned?
There's also another group of people, those who adapt to whatever the majority is using. I used to refer to Kuzan as Aokiji, but unconsciously swapped to Kuzan over the years because when I share my thoughts, I would like people to be on the same page.
It's less of a problem with Aokiji/Kuzan because he's a well-known character, but the same can't really be said for Ryokugyu. Sticking to Green Bull is just the path of least possible confusion at this point, so I'm going with that.
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Purple guy and tree guy
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@Captain-M said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
@Chams-0 said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
How funny that One Piece is getting extra tough for casual readers: remember the minor participant of Big Mom's party, who apparently was a governmental agent? Now she's also a clone of a character who had a one-chapter appereance like 23 VOLUMES ago. Good luck for those that don't usually reread OP
It's not like you need anything from the wedding party to understand Stussy the way she is now. Being reintroduced as part of a Cipher Pol squad gives her a clear role and skillset whether you remember seeing her before or not. And now that there's a big reveal putting her in the spotlight she gets a new Odabox introduction.
People do seem to be having a harder time drawing the connection to Buckin on their own though. Maybe the audience could have used a refresher on her when we were seeing the world between arcs.
I partially agree, but try to think of it through the perspective of casual readers: You are able to say that her part in the Wedding is not necessary to understand the character because you REMEMBER her there and knows what she did. But another reader will see Stussy this arc and say "I think she appeared before, who was she again? Did she do something important?" and they might think they are missing out on something.
I don't think this arc is impossible to understand, I just think that casual readers will feel like they are not getting the full experience, and might feel left out with so many secondary characters getting the spotlight. -
Wonder if the OP treasure is just chest after chest full of the elder senilos age baubles knocked out over the years by Bonney and before-Bonney Bonney.
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@wolfwood said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
Purple guy and tree guy
Ah right, the Wolfwood
nicknames! How could I ever forget Buttplug and Fisting Garp. -
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@Chams-0 I reckon if you're going to be a casual fan of a super long-running series you're going to have to accept either using a wiki or something to refresh yourself or just rolling with the punches when something feels familiar but you don't fully remember it. There are plenty of ways to double check things you're not sure about in this day and age.
And these things make for good reread bonuses as well, when someone decides to step up from a casual level and do that. I remember having a vague sense of having heard the name somewhere when Jinbei was first introduced in Impel Down, though he was brought into the story that didn't make me feel left out even though I wasn't quite sure what bit I'd missed. Then I had my mind blown when I did my first reread and found him namedropped almost 50 volumes earlier as Arlong's backer all the way down in East Blue. Finding those kinds of enlightening connections makes being a fan feel rewarding, but you can't have that moment of realisation without getting a little lost first.
Obviously I'm not a just casual fan of One Piece these days, I could name too many random bit parts to ever get caught out like that now. But when I think of the other things I am or have been a casual fan of, and how I felt when they escalated a half-remembered minor character from the past into a more major role, I don't recall feeling about it the way you're describing this hypothetical casual One Piece fan doing.
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This new One Piece arc shall be dubbed Attack Of The Clones
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@wolfwood
Damn, I hope the One Piece is so broken it can achieve World Peace by Breaking the Laws of Entropy. Like an Anti-Anti-Life Equation -
I've been thinking that Maybe Big Mom and others not recognizing Stussy is Oda's way of saying eff u to those (like me) who say that a lot of his female characters have the same face.
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