Here it is!
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Man, what an earth-shattering chapter. I guess I need to read it several times over, until I can truly wrap my head around it.
That callback to Luffy's and Lucci's encounter on Enies Lobby was amazing, though!
Got to admit, I preferred the original spoilers of Lucci getting beat up and wanting to flee, but alas, twas not to be.
So what Blackbeard say was literal in universe. "A man's dreams will never die", they're inherited through devil fruits.
Oh so they're mystery fruits.
@Johnny-B-Decent #MeToo
Wonder if Nika was in the texts of Ohara. It seems to be a name erased from history so Vegapunk must’ve learned it from somewhere…
Hmm, so every Devil Fruit is a possibility of human evolution that someone desired, but there is still no information on how those desires became realized in the form of Devil Fruits, and it's all just Vegapunk's theory for now.
There's probably some scientific explanation down the line on how they came to be, but I actually wouldn't mind the Kingdom Hearts-y origin that Devil Fruits just manifested from people's desires.
@All-Fiction I think the ancient kingdom found a way to channel the collective desires/dreams of humanity into fruits i.e they found a way to link the ‘real world’ to the world of imagination.
Nope, still don't get what the heck Punky is talking about.
Surprised we got such an easy explanation on the lack of Zoan Awakenings though, but I'm still not keen on the whole 'Devil Fruits have minds of their own' thing.
This translation feels off.
But i like that devil fruits are a unnatural occuring phenomenon. They have always felt to me they belong to the realm of fantasy. I was afraid Oda would go the sci-fi direction with them.
Vegapunk said the same thing that physicist said.
The very same thing as that physicist!
The revelation about Devil Fruits kind of makes me think of the Idea of Evil from Berserk. Just less horrifying.
Well, I was hoping it would go the Sci-Fi way and not some "people willed it and poof, it appeared" fairy tale, but to each his own I guess ;)
That isn't an explanation, it doesn't mean anything, and doesn't make more sense than "Demons are in each fruits" ...
I don't get it.
I'd like to think that there is something more and that this is just a red herring, but after the "cartoon God that is actually a Zoan of Freedom" that I still refuse to this day I'm starting to think that this will be it and that we won't learn much more....
Things are weird since the beginning of Wano, and most reveals since then have been disapointing to me.
@danie said in Chapter 1069: All Things Are Brought Into This World With Hope:
This translation feels off.
But i like that devil fruits are a unnatural occuring phenomenon. They have always felt to me they belong to the realm of fantasy. I was afraid Oda would go the sci-fi direction with them.
Makes me wonder if it’s related to granting wishes, like those Wano children making the wish lanterns.
Obviously there is more. We only got the first bit of information about the origins of the DF, this is not the entire stuff. We don't know how literal the explanation is, nor anything behind how those desires became fruits and how that ties in with the OP world.
We are not supposed to think we are seeing the full picture, just a tease.
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@access-timeco said in Chapter 1069: All Things Are Brought Into This World With Hope:
Obviously there is more. We only got the first bit of information about the origins of the DF, this is not the entire stuff. We don't know how literal the explanation is, nor anything behind how those desires became fruits and how that ties in with the OP world.
We are not supposed to think we are seeing the full picture, just a tease.
Thing is, Oda has teased/promised an actual explanation for Devil Fruits ever since Thriller Bark:
So Vegapunk, the smartest person in the world, going "My theory is people really wished for it!" is pretty lackluster.
(Btw, this is from chapter 467, so 602 chapters ago. "Soon" lol)
I guess it’s pretty clear that Oda didn’t give Kaido and Mom awakening because they would never lose. It still sucks and it’s bad writing. Lucci of all people having it is a slap to the emperors
@access-timeco said in Chapter 1069: All Things Are Brought Into This World With Hope:
Obviously there is more. We only got the first bit of information about the origins of the DF, this is not the entire stuff. We don't know how literal the explanation is, nor anything behind how those desires became fruits and how that ties in with the OP world.
We are not supposed to think we are seeing the full picture, just a tease.
I dunno, i could buy Oda just half assing it like this with this handwave/it's a mystery fruit route. Other than Imu (assuming that he is some sort of immortal creature) i don't suppose anyone else other than Vegapunk would/could have a working understanding of the mechanics of desire magic. But who knows.
Vegapunk‘s speech is deliberately vague, more pseudo-scientific explanations are guaranteed to come. What I actually like about this, is that it explains why characters often seem to get abilities that seem to perfectly suit them. Like, there‘s a guy whose actual name is ‘demon spider‘ and he just happens to be a spider Zoan? The world’s smartest guy has an unlimited brain capacity ability? How convenient! But now it seems like the fruit and the character are drawn to each other because of the character‘s desire. That‘s fine with me.
Zoan awakenings are still iffy. There‘s a nod to the ID wardens and Monsterpoint Chopper but it‘s still awkward that in the arc where everyone and their granddad was a Zoan, no one was explicitly mentioned to have awakened powers. Kaido casually explaining the very concept of an awakening makes it all the more irritating.
To me, this chapter is peak One Piece. Since it's come out, I've been looking back at past chapters trying to piece it all together.
Was Willy Gallon the originator of Vegapunks' Theory?
Is the ship Franky rebuilt himself on the Mads ship?
Mother of Nature, Imu/Umi?
Looking back at Roger's quote during Dragon's first appearance, the callback to the Lucci fight, Sentomaru being called by his weapon again and getting mad about it...
Things only possible because of the series length, and that makes reading it so rewarding.
"You know he's a moron, right?" lol
Hope Sentomaru is fine though. That'd be disappointing if that was the end of him.
@cavendishsama The more I re-read it, the more I like it for the art and some great lines but some parts about the chapter are just annoying. For example, Sakazuki makes his at least third or fourth mini-appearance in which he‘s just complaining about his job being a bother. Then Sentoumaru appears for three pages as an excuse for CP0 getting the upper-hand while Luffy‘s super Haki seems to have been out of charge or something. Even though next time he might comment on Lucci‘s speed, all this still feels off.
@Barkworm said in Chapter 1069: All Things Are Brought Into This World With Hope:
Vegapunk‘s speech is deliberately vague, more pseudo-scientific explanations are guaranteed to come. What I actually like about this, is that it explains why characters often seem to get abilities that seem to perfectly suit them. Like, there‘s a guy whose actual name is ‘demon spider‘ and he just happens to be a spider Zoan? The world’s smartest guy has an unlimited brain capacity ability? How convenient! But now it seems like the fruit and the character are drawn to each other because of the character‘s desire. That‘s fine with me.
Zoan awakenings are still iffy. There‘s a nod to the ID wardens and Monsterpoint Chopper but it‘s still awkward that in the arc where everyone and their granddad was a Zoan, no one was explicitly mentioned to have awakened powers. Kaido casually explaining the very concept of an awakening makes it all the more irritating.
Haha, yeah, still leaving people guessing if devil fruits are man-made, nature-made, or something else.
Man, this cover story kinda really needs to be animated if we're also getting a quick MADS flashback outside of the main story too.
Vegapunk's being eccentric and crazy, so who the hell knows what to believe out of his mouth. It could be advanced metaphorical dribble or meant to be taken literally, but at the end of the day, my main takeaway is a newfound understanding of why nobody can really work with and understand Vegapunk very well. He's honestly pushing into creepy territory here as far as Nika's concerned. It wouldn't exactly surprise me if he asks to delay leaving so he can have some time to quick "research" Luffy a bit.
I can't really tell if the strawhats are reacting to Vegapunk's confusing speech, or watching Luffy's new Nika-form battle. Could go either way.
I don't really care about Sentomaru. Ideally he stays down to make things actually interesting with the Seraphim. Or maybe Lucci can get S-Bear to quickly scatter them around the island before Luffy can counter-attack and Sento can get back up.
I wonder how much Bonney's age changing would mess with the authority chain. It was enough to throw off a pacifista's sensors to stop pursuing them, but would it also be enough to get the Seraphim to not listen to anyone?
Something's gotta happen to slow things down enough for Kizaru/Sword/anyone else to arrive. Maybe Kizaru's gonna arrive with more Seraphim that were rented out.
@Joy-Boy said in Chapter 1069: All Things Are Brought Into This World With Hope:
I guess it’s pretty clear that Oda didn’t give Kaido and Mom awakening because they would never lose. It still sucks and it’s bad writing. Lucci of all people having it is a slap to the emperors
I think of it like this. Rob Lucci was an up and coming warrior from CP9 who a few years ago entered the New World. He was strong, and driven, but clearly wasn't the strongest guy in that sea. He had a ton of competition, after all, how many people have we seen resist gear 2 or 3 in the New World? His back had been placed against the wall, and if he wanted to survive he needed to advance or die. Well, in this case he advanced and awakened his devil fruit--in part because he was driven and in part because he needed it. The Leopard fruit just isn't that impression compared to what we've seen, so improvement was needed.
Meanwhile, the Emperors and their crew don't need that kind of power. Even I've complained about the lack of awakened zoans in Kaidou's crew, but in this sense I think it makes sense. The Beast Pirates were so strong that they never needed to advance their devil fruits. Their base power was enough--even with guys like Who's Who. Lucci was in just the right position where he had the room to improve, and the motivation to improve. Really, in hindsight it's almost perfect.
Plus, at this point I'm really, really hoping we get expanded information on awakened zoans. We have the first conscious awakened zoan in Lucci along with Vegapunk who should know plenty about devil fruits
Some thoughts:
Egghead seems to be the New World’s Sabaody arc. I’m not sure we wll have more than an apetizer of Kizaru’s clashing with the SH. I feel we are going to get some more players moving and then a few shot(er) arcs building towards a big event in Elbaf.
As expected Lucci is able to fight Luffy, at least for a while. I thought he'd be around pre-ACoC Luffy's level, and this chapter makes it likely. I don't think Lucci can win in a straight match, but he's smart and tactical and can cause enough trouble while he's standing.
I really like Devil Fruits are supernatural, rather than just some "ancient technology" product. Their supernatural nature made them wondrous. And each being unique and able to reincarnate would be hard to explain as science. Now they are literal inherited dreams. I love it!
So much for Sentomaru having "the world's strongest defense". I expected more from you, Sentomaru...
It's so weird and frustrating to see S-Snake on the chapter but no sign of the real Boa Hancock. Still, I think she's going to appear in person soon.
@Marcotty said in Chapter 1069: All Things Are Brought Into This World With Hope:
Man, this cover story kinda really needs to be animated if we're also getting a quick MADS flashback outside of the main story too.
Brings me good fooling and reassurance once again that Oda hasn't turned into someone who's now ignoring small details. If he's willing to explore a MADS flashback after Queen's brief mention, then anything is possible I suppose.
Oh wow, Luffy and Lucci back in the ring after 16 years, how far we've come. The year's shaping up to end on a really high note with this one. Even the cover story's worthy of note this time. I love seeing unexpected connections like Du Feld funding the original MADS, it makes it feel like there's always more going on below the surface than we can know. The Lu Feld name is another example of Oda not keeping track of his romanisations though. It was clearly spelled out as Du back in Whole Cake Island. Unless Feld got married and took his partner's name since the MADS days lol.
I can't take credit for it, but I saw a reddit post comparing the MADS ship here to the abandoned ship Franky found right before cyborging himself. They're not an exact match, but it would an extremely cool way to tie things together and put a bow on Franky's relationship with the scientist.
Kaku being wary of sparking a war against Luffy is a fantastic inversion of the place the crew was at back in Ennies Lobby. From it being a massive deal that a small fry crew would declare war on the World Government to the World Government acting wary of sparking an open war with Luffy. Our boy's gotten so big! I like the feeling of progression that comes with Luffy now having so much influence that his actions and the fights he picks have global ramifications, whether he chooses to care about those consequences or not. There's a final war coming, and any move could be the one that sparks it.
So, what happened to Luffy's outfit when he started fight Lucci? Would have been cool to see a whitened version of his new Egghead one, but I guess he ditched it during the cutaway to New Marineford? Except in chapter 1063 the clothing machines allegedly undress the user to get the new fit on. Or do only the women get that treatment, Oda? You'd think with all the flipping around during the fight with the Kuma cop we'd have seen a glimpse of the shorts under Luffy's coat if they were still there...
While there is some debate about whether Luffy felt like he needed Gear Five for this bout or if he just does it for the feeling of freedom, I'd like to put forward that he was just mad about Atlas, at least at first. We've already seen him half-shift just from being frustrated at holographic food. The euphoria of Nika's freedom could have taken over after the transformation. There's so much we don't know about how this form works yet.
Lucci's awakening is a great design on its own, but I can't help feeling the rules about awakenings, especially Zoan ones, are only getting muddier. How far do we read into the wreath of smoke as a sign of awakening, considering Enel and all Gear Four forms also had it? Lucci's hair is also standing up and burning like Wano's koma-animals, but Luffy had that back in Snakeman form, and Kaido and Momo's dragon forms also both have it. I don't think there's any one visual trait we can say for sure is meant to indicate an awakened form, particularly when the ones from Impel Down have so little in common with the recent ones (even accounting for Oda changing his awakening plans over time). Well, I'm sure it'll all get sorted out eventually.
And the Devil Fruit lore just keeps on rolling with the reveal of their possible origin - an manifestation of people's desire for change. This remains pretty vague, I'm sure we're gonig to learn a bit more about this later on, but I think it's the right way to go, making them something akin to a natural phenomenon. We can see an echo of the Ancient Kingdom's technology on Egghead, and while it's sci fi even by real world standards, it doesn't seem able to recreate the sheer mysticism of Devil Fruit operations. Editing genes to give one person a superpower is fine, but things like Sugar's ability to erase the memories of people she's never even seen through a target's connection to them is literally reality-breaking. That's not an effect that can be scienced up. While superhuman feats and moments of heightened reality are abundant in One Piece, Devil Fruits remain the lone, one-time exception to its world's absence of magic. Having them be literally pulled into being against the resistance of regular nature by the collective will of humanity - like any one of the many stories where gods are brought into existence and empowered by man's belief in them - is a fine evolution of the mythology.
My big lingering questions are when did they start appearing (Toki tells us it must be pre-Void Century) and have any new fruits been brought into being since that first batch. And could a fruit - particularly a mythical zoan - have its powers altered if the lore surrounding the creature changed? On that line of thinking, did Sasaki, King and Queen's dinosaur powers work the way they did not because it was how dinosaurs hunted, but because this world's paleontologists are genuinely bad enough that they believed that? Seems to line up with Page One's tail being retconned purely because the science changed.
So yeah, I'm definitely excited to see were Oda's going with this.
But I do agree with what's been said already, that the Nika reveal should have been saved for this scene instead of the Kaido fight. Simply doing the revival and Joyboy comment from Zunesha, then leaving the new form and powers a mystery for a few months before dropping the bomb here I think would have been really effective. Oh well, too late to change that now.
I enjoy the throwback to Luffy and Lucci's first fight. The paneling certainly isn't as clean as the first time around, but the context is also different. A major fight against an overwhelming enemy back then is now an enjoyable skirmish intercut with exposition. It would be nice if there was enough room in the chapter to lay it out like the original, but this isn't a big enough fight to need to breathe the same way.
The arrival of Sentomaru and the Seraphim seems to set up an escalation of the Cipher Pol conflict. We can assume the Strawhats have grown at a much more exponential rate than the agents they fought the first time around, but Oda went out of his way to show us earlier that a single Seraphim is a considerable threat. The authority hierarchy and rule that the commander needs to be present in person set things up for chaos. But... even with Atlas down, there are still six people on the islands who can override Cipher Pol's orders, plus the possiblity of stealing or damaging the authority chip. A single Vegaclone with a Strawhat bodyguard who knows Cipher Pol will target them is all it will take to turn the tides here, which makes me think even a Seraphim rampage isn't the final battle or ticking clock for this arc. Or at the very least, Oda's going to have to rule out a few more solutions first.
Jinbe seems to confirm that S-Shark has the same skin as the others. Lunarian tan overrides Fishman blue. Seems obvious, but I like having confirmation.
Sentomaru's defeat is the only part of this chapter that doesn't do it for me. Oh, it's brutal and shocking and sets up the Seraphim trouble, but after Sabaody, I wanted to see a bit more of how the "most defensive man in the world" stands up to the series' current skill ceiling. Maybe Oda's saying Lucci's just that good, but I would still have liked to see the axe guy's skills acknowledged first. Maybe there's more coming, but I can't help feeling like there just weren't enough pages in the chapter for him.
To get back on a positive note to out, there was also a log of great humour in this chapter. Luffy getting caught out by Lucci saying Egghead is Government territory was great, and I love Chopper deferring Atlas's treatment to Franky. Luffy's Gear Five battle was just as fun and inventive as the first time. You can tell Oda loves drawing this thing.
So we've got one chapter left to go this year, if I'm understanding the schedule right, which should be close to the halfway point of volume 106. 2022 is poised to go out on a high note, and if the Egghead momentum keeps going, 2023 could be one of the series' best years to date.
I know a lot of people now think Imu is the big, bad ultimate villain since it was introduced, but the revelation of this chapter regarding Devil's Fruits strengthens my belief that Blackbeard is instead the true final villain as now even his DF is now the ideological opposite of Luffy's.
Where Luffy's power is to bring hope and liberation, his is simply amoral destruction. That's why he can nullify other DF's, because the Yami Yami no Mi is the wish to consume the world in darkness, destroying everything, even consuming the hopes of others.
https://forums.arlongpark.net/post/4080077
This was my working theory on devil fruits and after the official translations along with this video below
I feel like I’m right about this. Some great developments.
I know a lot of people are taking desires literally, but it just doesn’t make sense for me. I don’t definitively think I’m right but it’s about 70-80% how I feel.
Would be weird if Kaido can give an explanation that Awakening is what happens when your body and mind catch up with your Devil Fruit only for him to not have Awakening himself.
@All-Fiction said in Chapter 1069: All Things Are Brought Into This World With Hope:
Would be weird if Kaido can give an explanation that Awakening is what happens when your body and mind catch up with your Devil Fruit only for him to not have Awakening himself.
I’m actually starting to wonder just how right Kaido is regarding devil fruits, because Yamato’s mind refused to obey Kaido in becoming a guardian deity even though he demanded she do so. Then there’s Shaka’s words of the fruit altering the user’s personality.
@All-Fiction Well, it was not confirmed whether Kaido used awakening or not. Either Oda still has plans for him and he will clearly show it then, or Momo is the one who is meant to clearly show the awakening down the line.
It's kinda like with Whitebeard. Did he show the awakened power of his fruit or not? I guess he probably didn't. Partly due to Oda not having really established the concept then, and because Blackbeard has to surpass Whitebeard in a sense.
Wow,t hat two page spread where Lffy and Lucchi are fighting is probably the worst panel composition I've ever seen from Oda.
If you're not going ot put an actual big splash panel in there don't muck the layout by making it a spread, just make it two ordinary pages. It's like Oda was trying to cram 4 pages into there and it's just... messy.
Could one of the reasons Kaido kept trying to kill himself was to unlock his Awakening?
It would seem that a near-death experience is the trick to doing so. Like, I think Lucci's defeat at Enies Lobby was what unlocked his own.
Maybe the lava bath was the trick to finally Awaken him?
Kaido was waiting for Joyboy to unlock his Awakening
Some people are being waaaay too hasty with thinking that was all there was to the DF explanation. Obviously there's gonna be more detail, they didn't just poof into existence.
btw how are you anti-Lucci dweebs coping?
Now we know what those words said by Teach actually means
but how did he know about it ? Punk had to read the entire library of Ohara to reach this theory, anyways this chapter made me love Teach even more
I didn't expect that Yamato was in her awakening form while fighting Kaido!! Lucci's transformation proved that
is there a break next week or what ? mangaplus didn't say anything
it will be big if the news are true that Oda is going to attend the jeddah book fair in person and probably that's why there is a postpone
speaking of which i hope they ask him about Kaido so we can stop debating whether he awakened or not or is he alive or dead and so on.
So Punk‘s clothing machine is just Kinemon‘s power…
Blackbeard found out the secret to double abilities.
You have to wish it.
If this is the only explanation we get for devil fruits that will not tell us much.
But Vegapunk still has to explain us about the lineage factor and how he is able to copy abilities. Well at least I hope he will explains us because that is what I'm interested in
For Lucci being awaken, I didn't really mind. At least it explains a little why he is a credible threat for gear 5 Luffy. I understand Vegapunk's remark as an explanation why we didn't see the Animal Kingdom's pirate awaking. Being Zoans, they might have feared loosing their mind in the process. It still does not explain why we didn't have a clear explanation for the emperor's awakening.
@Robby said in Chapter 1069: All Things Are Brought Into This World With Hope:
Wow,t hat two page spread where Lffy and Lucchi are fighting is probably the worst panel composition I've ever seen from Oda.
If you're not going ot put an actual big splash panel in there don't muck the layout by making it a spread, just make it two ordinary pages. It's like Oda was trying to cram 4 pages into there and it's just... messy.
It is messy and I'm not sure I will like luffy hilarious when he is fighting until the end of the serie. Here, he is supposed to fight because he is pissed Atlas was attacked. Seing him laughing is really out of tune. And I'm puzzled why his eyes are popping out in the top left panel.
Luffy just kind of stopping to go and have a chat with axe guy is kind of odd. But i guess it's just plot induced stupidity
@FelRes said in Chapter 1069: All Things Are Brought Into This World With Hope:
Some people are being waaaay too hasty with thinking that was all there was to the DF explanation. Obviously there's gonna be more detail, they didn't just poof into existence.
Just like Kaido will obviously be fleshed out more with a proper flashback. Or how we will get more about Kaido's and Yamato's relationship. Or how Yamato will obviously join the crew after how many times it's been hammered in. Or how the biggest and baddest crew of Zoans in the entire world will obviously have Awakening. Or how Luffy will obviously not just win by having the bigger and stronger punch. Or how Carrot will obviously get her moment to shine and not just be completely offscreened, get burdened with ruling Mokomo Dukedom despite not wanting it and getting no proper resolution.
I hope Vegapunk will give us a more detailed explanation when/if things calm down but after Wano I'm keeping my expectations low. The first "reveal" what Devil Fruits are just didn't land for me, at all.
I'm a bit confused about Vegapunks statement in this chapter, he says: Even the oldest books of devil fruits there is no such thing as a gum-gum fruit.
So my interpretation is, that there never was a gum-gum fruit to begin with and the government gave the Nika devil fruit that name to cover up it's existence.
I do want to know more about the devil fruit lore, but I do like the theme as for Haki, its spirit and willpower which willed these powers into existence. Though I do wonder, if there is a scientific aspect Vegapunk hasn't mentioned yet, as he was able to create a copy of Kaidos fruit, did he simply wish for a second version of it and it became true? Or was there some real science involved for Vegapunk to create it, I do wonder how the smile fruits work, maybe Vegapunk has some more insight on why they are defects.
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@wolfwood said in Chapter 1069: All Things Are Brought Into This World With Hope:
Luffy just kind of stopping to go and have a chat with axe guy is kind of odd. But i guess it's just plot induced stupidity
I figured the awakened zoan God Fruit is responsible, I think someone on the forum called it fruit-induced ADHD. He also randomly spaced out during his fight with Kaido, closing his eyes and bouncing on the spot and stuff.
@The-Light-of-Shandora said in Chapter 1069: All Things Are Brought Into This World With Hope:
So my interpretation is, that there never was a gum-gum fruit to begin with and the government gave the Nika devil fruit that name to cover up it's existence.
Yes. It's pretty much what the 5 elders said back in Wano when gear Looney Tunes was revealed (chapter 1044). Plus in 1037 they mention a fruit to which the World Government has been giving a different name for centuries in order to hide its true nature. "Gomu-gomu" was all along a mythical Zoan, so it seems logical that it would be that fruit .
@wolfwood eh he didn't stop. Just kinda got bounced away
@Captain-M said in Chapter 1069: All Things Are Brought Into This World With Hope:
So, what happened to Luffy's outfit when he started fight Lucci? Would have been cool to see a whitened version of his new Egghead one, but I guess he ditched it during the cutaway to New Marineford? Except in chapter 1063 the clothing machines allegedly undress the user to get the new fit on. Or do only the women get that treatment, Oda? You'd think with all the flipping around during the fight with the Kuma cop we'd have seen a glimpse of the shorts under Luffy's coat if they were still there...
I m wondering if Oda will offer an explanation how the clothing machine works. I m really not picky, but that detail that Luffy even is wearing his usual sandals during Gear 5 instead of the boots annoyed me a lot. When the clothing machine was some sort of devil fruit mechanic like Kinemons, it would make a lot of sense that during the transformation his clothes changed back. It would be great in the case Oda acnowledge it as a mistake if he would change all those panels in the volume which probably wont happen.
@shadyagent I think it is a simple case of "He took the shoes off"
"Hold on, Pigeon Guy, let me go fetch my own clothes and change real quick"
Really like how DFs are potentially tied into dreams, it's mystical enough to retain the wonder of DFs, yet also hooks into the biggest and most enduring theme of the series.
@Johnny-B-Decent said in Chapter 1069: All Things Are Brought Into This World With Hope:
I know a lot of people now think Imu is the big, bad ultimate villain since it was introduced, but the revelation of this chapter regarding Devil's Fruits strengthens my belief that Blackbeard is instead the true final villain as now even his DF is now the ideological opposite of Luffy's.
Where Luffy's power is to bring hope and liberation, his is simply amoral destruction. That's why he can nullify other DF's, because the Yami Yami no Mi is the wish to consume the world in darkness, destroying everything, even consuming the hopes of others.
This is something I thought of almost immediately when I saw Vegapunk saying what he said.
Blackbeard is a person who can never sleep, so he never really "dreams" in the way a normal person does, it makes sense that the man who can never experience what dreams truly are is the person whose dream is to essentially kill all other dreams and erase all hope.
I really wonder if we will get something from Vegapunk on how he can take in 2 DFs at once, his fight with Law is still raging on in the background for a reason.
