I was thinking about what Luffy said once, that he had never beaten Ace, even DF powers. I`m wondering - will they gonna fight each other in the future?? It could be very interesting 
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Ace and Luffy
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o.o I'd say it was a safe bet really
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Yep, unless Oda suddenly falls over dead those two brothers are gonna fight it out.
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I think a fight will be inevitable, since IMO Ace wants to get rid of Luffy. It's just the impression he gave me, he's too…distant to Luffy. I mean, he hasn't seen him for how many years? 10? And all he does is giving him a piece of paper? That's too suspicious....I actually have a whole theory on this but I don't want to bore y'all...
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I just figure Ace will try and take out Luffy as soon as be becomes powerful enough to threaten whitebeard
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@Oboro:
I think a fight will be inevitable, since IMO Ace wants to get rid of Luffy. It's just the impression he gave me, he's too…distant to Luffy. I mean, he hasn't seen him for how many years? 10? And all he does is giving him a piece of paper? That's too suspicious....I actually have a whole theory on this but I don't want to bore y'all...
**He is
- In whitebeards crew
- In the grand line before luffy
- Would be much further into the GL but was loooking for Blackbeard.
- Went to the trouble to find him.
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I think they will have to fight it out. I personally think they both like each other, Ace seemed proud of Luffy when he first met him, he also joked around with Luffys crew. He doesnt have the additude to hate Luffy.
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Did he tell Buggy that he will lead him to Luffy? Ace told Buggy he would lead him to Luffy during the Jaya arc.
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I didn't see Ace joking around, really. You could compare his attitude while meeting the crew with his mini-adventures: He as MUCH more careless during the mini adventures. And it's not like the business he was taking care of was less important…he even wasted time by helping that girl deliver a letter to her parents.
OK, Here's what I think:
It all started when were introduced to Blackbeard. To me, he doesn't seem a man that would kill one of his comrades and then flee. At least, Ace looks a lot shadier than he does.
So I thought: what If Ace is a big fat liar? He could have killed one of his subordinates, then blamed Blackbeard of it. Knowing that what Whitebeard hates the most is the harming of his comrades, it isn't hard to believe that Ace was sent to take care of BB.Now, why would Ace want to kill Blackbeard anyway? Well, this is simple: the will of D. As Foosha's mayor said, Luffy being a pirate wasn't his dream, it was his destiny.
We can assume then there is a certain role, in a world that is all spinning gears (just to quote van ogre hehe), that only someone bearing the will of D can fulfilll.
Here's Ace's motive then: he wants to eliminate possible threats to his reaching of this goal. That's why he gave Luffy that piece of paper...with that he can somehow know where Luffy is, any time. After all, nothing is written on that piece of paper: what other purpose could it serve?
Also, as Joekido said, he told Buggy where to find Luffy...how could Ace know? It had already been sometime since they left Alabasta...not to count the fact that Buggy wants to kill Luffy. What kind of caring elder brother would inform a dangerous individual of his little brother's whereabouts? Ace, that's who
Well, hope I made sense somewhat...now feedback would be most welcome
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They are brothers of coarse they will fight. Ace is going to protect and prop up his captain and as much as it may be family like to help his brother they are on conflicting roads to becoming the pirate king. Now it will be interesting if the two crews meet and duke it out and who fights who. For some reason I dont see luffy taking on ace unless whitebeard sends ace against luffy first saying if you cant get past ace you cant fight him or somesuch.
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i hope not, it'd be terribly cliche, it's luffy's job to fight whitebeard if he wants a fight not Ace. but then again, i have a feeling that Whitebeard may die before Luffy gets to that part of the grandline, holy fucking shit, how cool would it be too see the global fall-out from that.
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It may be cliche but I'm sure there is a way to have the events leading upto that can be done in a manner that it isnt as cliche. Just look at 390
As for whitebeard being killed off or being dead before luffy reaches that area would be interesting especially with shanks makin ga trip there. -
What if WhiteBeard was Gol D. Roger's brother ?
And Luffy and Ace have a fight like they had ? That would be diferent
WhiteBeard will probably be in pretty bad shape to fight Luffy when they meet but I think he'll recognize something in Luffy like many characters already did
Or then again maybe not
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I never got to see when Ace was with the strawhats, can anyone tell me when Ace first joins up with them in the Alabasta arc?
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ace come along with strawhats when lufy is chased by smoker, and then ace vs smoker happened.
and ace would like to told buggy where luffy is, is because ace want to eat on buggys ship, not because want to make luffy died on buggys hand.
about ace vs luffy, that would be only like a test, who is stronger between them, not to kill eachother … ace vs luffy would be a fair fight, but how could be the fight will be fair if fire vs rubber??? we only just wait their fight, maybe on epi 800 or more ...
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i dont remembe Ace telling buggy where luffy whereabout
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I still say a SH vs. Whitebeard fight will happen and ace and luffy will have a serious fight because of it.
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I still say a SH vs. Whitebeard fight will happen and ace and luffy will have a serious fight because of it.
You actually think Shanks will fight the "Strongest Man in the world". Shanks just wants to meet with Whitebeard, Whitebeard had an idea that Shanks wants to talk about Ace and Blackbeard. Well who knows anything can happen.
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STRAW HATS . SH=STRAWWWW HAAATS. Not Shanks. Shanks is Shanks.
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STRAW HATS . SH=STRAWWWW HAAATS. Not Shanks. Shanks is Shanks.
Oh, My bad Voodzik I thought you ment Shanks:laugh: . Well the same would be for the StrawHats they will loose if they fought Whitebeard. To me Strawhats are developing in strength, but just not enough to defeat many of the powerful pirates of the seas. (Whitebeard, Shichibukai, Etc.)
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If they do fight, I hope Ace kicks the CRAP out of Luffy.
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Luffy does have that new "Gear", which has increased his Physical abilities greatly, I am also impressed in Luffy's abilitiy to register his opponents techniques and analyze their weakness. It will be hard for Ace to defeat Luffy. Luffy in my opinion will defeat Ace with the experience he has gained.
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I just want to see Ace fight somene again. We have never seen what he can do one on one.
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I just want to see Ace fight somene again. We have never seen what he can do one on one.
um, try reading/watching the alabasta arc, Ace has a big fight with Smoker during the epiosde where he catches up with Luffy and the crew.
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Well it remains to be seen how far Ace can Manipulate his Devil fruit powers, that is what I would like to see.
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um, try reading/watching the alabasta arc, Ace has a big fight with Smoker during the epiosde where he catches up with Luffy and the crew.
That's hardly what I would call a "big" fight.
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That's hardly what I would call a "big" fight.
There's an explosion…explosions are big.XD
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um, try reading/watching the alabasta arc, Ace has a big fight with Smoker during the epiosde where he catches up with Luffy and the crew.
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You want me to watch the anime?
Nah that's ok. I just download the music from the OST's.
The anime subbed or dubbed isn't worth my time with the changes they made.
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yeah but thnik that Luffy NEVER won against Ace, even with his DF powers… and I think that when they fought Ace didn
t have his fire powers, so it wont be that easy for Luffy=)The only reason for walking into the jaws of Death is so's you can steal his gold teeth.
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Luffy, IMO, doesn't stand a chance against Ace…c'mon...one attack and Luffy's charcoal. There's just NO comparison.
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Luffy and Ace will probably fight, but it will be like one of their childhood fights.
Then again, it could also be a very serious fight stemming from some sort of missunderstanding. Ace isn't evil and he didn't kill one of his crewmates. If that were the case, he would have been more deadset on eliminating blackbeard, and blackbeard would be more interested in the death of his crewmate (in other words he'd be trying to do something about his having been framed for murder instead of trying to become a shichibukai).
If ace wanted to eliminate luffy, he could have easily done so in the alabasta arc. While their rivalry is definitely obvious (when Luffy tries to save the bounty hunter who tried to capture ace, Ace saves him first with his Fire Fist), it's not hatred, it's a rivalry of brothers. Both secretly want the other to excell.
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Luffy's the main character…so odds are he's going to do very well against his brother and possibly beat him.
Luffy is getting a lot stronger because he's always fighting and learning about how to fight.
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Kaizoku Hunter…I agree with what you just said...but all of your posts seem to be about what useless or stupid or beneath you or whatever....
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the scene about Luffy trying to save the bounty hunter never happens in the manga. Also, i think that any fight between the two will be without devil fruit power.
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Kaizoku Hunter…I agree with what you just said...but all of your posts seem to be about what useless or stupid or beneath you or whatever....
All of them?
Hmm…I said I didn't like Franky and the Anime.
That's about it.
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Ace tols Buggy where he can find Luffy? i thought he just said he knew where he is, but it didn't show him telling it.:huh:
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Ace isn't evil and he didn't kill one of his crewmates. If that were the case, he would have been more deadset on eliminating blackbeard, and blackbeard would be more interested in the death of his crewmate (in other words he'd be trying to do something about his having been framed for murder instead of trying to become a shichibukai).
About Ace not being evil and not murdering his crewmate: only time will tell, how can you be so sure?
Who do you think Whitebeard trusts more, his second-in command or a rookie like many in his crew? The answer is obvious…BB is smart enough not to mess in vain against WB's crew, so he hightailed the hell out of there....to avoid being killed by Ace.
Ace probably didn't kill Luffy because he needs him in the future. Otherwise, he wouldn't have given him that infamous piece of paper.
IMO, Ace looks reaaaaally shady ...his attitude is just weird...he didn't see Luffy for some 10 tears, he was much too cold when they met IMO.
OT: I might disagree in general with Hunter's opinion on Franky and Kaku, but his sig is the truth. Kaku's home LOL.
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Oboro Tennosuke where the f did you get the idea that he didn't see him for 10 years?
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Well, I'm not exactly sure on the exact years… (goes to check)ok, I was wrong, it's just 3 years....well, it's not as much time, his reaction might be accepted.
On a sied note: Luffy says "He's 3 years older than me, so he left the island 3 years earlier." Isn't it kind of weird? There seems to be a fixed age for leaving home...
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think of pokemon, it has been done before
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Right, I wonder if Luffy has to collect the ten nakama nto challenge the elite three…(the Admirals)
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Oboro Tennosuke, I really think that Ace is a legitimately good person because of his actions in Alabasta.
He didn't have to help out the fake rebel army leaders by building their character and getting them to be brave people rather than cowards, and he did it because he knew that despite what they were doing, they weren't bad people.
He had no reason to do that at all, he could have just come out of the town and been like, "let's be on our way, Luffy!" and they would have left. Instead he and the Straw Hats orchestrated that little scuffle.
I don't believe that Blackbeard is scared of Ace. There may be other reasons he left the ship after he did what he did. He doesn't exactly seem to be 'on the run', even though he is moving forward a lot (but so is luffy and everyone, because it's the grand line).
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Oboro, I know every comment people make herei saccpeted but I think your just making up a bunch of ideas with no legitimate proof behind them. If we saw Ace hiding in a corner looking suspiciously for a secene with some sinister music playing then yeah, maybe you have a valid point but at the current, Ace has said how much he is commited to the Whitebeard pirates, even stating he will fight alongside Whitebeard if his and Luffy's crew met. So I doubt that Ace killed a member of his crew and blamed it on someone else.
Sorry is that seemed like flaming but I'd justthought I'd put my point accross that I don't believe there is enough proof about what Oboro is suggesting. -
Oboro Tennosuke, I really think that Ace is a legitimately good person because of his actions in Alabasta.
He didn't have to help out the fake rebel army leaders by building their character and getting them to be brave people rather than cowards, and he did it because he knew that despite what they were doing, they weren't bad people.
He had no reason to do that at all, he could have just come out of the town and been like, "let's be on our way, Luffy!" and they would have left. Instead he and the Straw Hats orchestrated that little scuffle.
This adventure does not take place in the manga, and because it doesn't it is proabably a bad idea to use it as evidence.
Oboro, I will send you some soup in the mail. However, I do not think that Ace is a bad person.
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This adventure does not take place in the manga, and because it doesn't it is proabably a bad idea to use it as evidence.
It does, however, have to be approved by Oda, and Oda would not approve it if it would interfere with the plot later, thus I think that Ace is a generally decent human being.
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I don't think Luffy and Ace will fight. I believe Ace will somehow have an important part in whatever arc he appears in, that paper he gave Luffy could explain my theory
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Oh, I didn't realize that that didn't occur in the manga.
Even so, Ace so blatantly swears his loyalty to White Beard that there is no reason to question it. He clearly admires whitebeard as the greatest pirate who ever lived (or something along those lines, it might have been "the greatest man I've ever met").
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It does, however, have to be approved by Oda, and Oda would not approve it if it would interfere with the plot later, thus I think that Ace is a generally decent human being.
I dont watch the anime but if thats true, it doesnt automatically mean he's a good person. He could have a personal vendeta against Luffy for whatever reason.
