Chapter 1067: Punk Records
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Rather interesting to me about Luffy referring to Momo as strong and as a guardian deity of Wano. Kaido called Yamato that, but not Luffy, even though Luffy knows about how Momo fared against that Admiral. I wouldn’t even be mentioning all this if Luffy hadn’t of said that, because it really makes me wonder how soon Momo would be able to prove himself enough to convince Yamato to finally leave.
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Is anyone else a bit uninsterested in Egghead?
I think Ch 1061 was the last one that had me intrigued. Since then, it's been just the characters walking around and getting exposition. Only the Law/BB parts made me question where are we going. There has been a lot of answers lately, but little to no adventuring, nor interesting new questions, IMO. Oda usually makes each reveal has a cost (like the character having to surpass something first), but now it feels like the answers are coming free of cost.
I'm still questioning myself if Egghead is a full arc, or just a quick setup for something bigger on the horizon. Which is strange, given how much Vegapunk was hyped over the years. I'm not saying the story is bad, just that it isn't keeping me THAT hyped for each next chapter. If you look the last six chapters (half a volume, or 2 months IRL), aside from from BB/Law clashing, you find surprisingly little tension, action, or adventuring. As a consequence, I find myself with little to talk about each week.
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I mostly enjoy exposition. So I am still mostly having a good time.
I am also hoping the CP0 having to assassinate people while avoiding power houses will be fun.
My only negative with the arc is while the characters are fun , the environment isn't all that fun as it's just a laboratory with machinery.
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i don't think the aim here is adventuring. Everything is centered around Vegapunk and his revelation. The guy deserve that much after having been a shadow for so long.
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@Kdom said in Chapter 1067: Punk Records:
i don't think the aim here is adventuring. Everything is centered around Vegapunk and his revelation. The guy deserve that much after having been a shadow for so long.
The CP0 arriving so soon is quite surprising given we have still much to know about him.I imagine Vegapunk would just go back to Dragon in the end. Dragon prob has a lot more funds than he did back then, useful now that the Government seems pretty done with Vegapunk at this point.
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"The artificially engineered devil fruit was a failure because he's pink."
Pure gold. How long ago did Oda set this joke up? 300 chapters ago?
I am loving this arc. Bring all the exposition. With the giants (and Elbaf presumably being the next island) being linked to the revolutionaries, fish-men not only being (re-)connected to Mary Joa but also to the lost civilization(?), and Vegapunk continuing to casually tease the Void Century, it seems that Oda is really gearing up for endgame. How many years left of his five-year-plan?
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Couldn't care less about Rob Lucci's lame comeback. But I guess someone has to stop Vegapunk from telling too much lore.
It's either Yamato who read Oden's journal, or Vegapunk who read a whole library of forbidden books. Who would give the best advantage to the crew ?
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@Nilitch said in Chapter 1067: Punk Records:
Couldn't care less about Rob Lucci's lame comeback. But I guess someone has to stop Vegapunk from telling too much lore.
It's either Yamato who read Oden's journal, or Vegapunk who read a whole library of forbidden books. Who would give the best advantage to the crew ?
Oh wait, you’re right. I suppose it’s funny many said Yamato should sail with Luffy because of forbidden knowledge, and now Vegapunk who knows a lot about Void Century from Ohara books is now asking the same thing.
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@triangular_maze said in Chapter 1067: Punk Records:
"The artificially engineered devil fruit was a failure because he's pink."
Pure gold. How long ago did Oda set this joke up? 300 chapters ago?
I am loving this arc. Bring all the exposition. With the giants (and Elbaf presumably being the next island) being linked to the revolutionaries, fish-men not only being (re-)connected to Mary Joa but also to the lost civilization(?), and Vegapunk continuing to casually tease the Void Century, it seems that Oda is really gearing up for endgame. How many years left of his five-year-plan?
Actually, if the color inaccuracy is the only reason the fruit is deemed to be a failure, the Momo might be able to use a hybrid form and awaken his fruit like how Kaido can.
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Hopefully the aftermath of Judge and Ceasar beating each other up will be the end of this cover story. I'd prefer if we immediately jumped into a new one or "scenes around the world," but I'd even take cover requests at this point if Oda needs a little break from them.
ApplePunk sure is a roller coaster going from topic to topic to depression to new topic. I wonder what Oda's planning here. Comedic pass outs usually don't last for long, so Bonney should be back soon. Are we just delaying Vega giving something to her for a chapter, or is he gonna have to run off somewhere before she wakes up to further delay it?
And then either he needs help cause the location he wants to go is impossible to get to, or there's something physically stopping him from leaving. I'm gonna lean on the latter, as it wouldn't be surprising if his whole giant brain-lab thing actually locks him down to this island. Or maybe if he leaves he'll lose connection and turn into an idiot? These are the things I'm a bit more interested in following than getting more history lore personally.
Cp0 are fighting an uphill mission with absolutely no expectations for them to accomplish much. Gotta hope Oda's planning some Vega-clone betrayals from Lilith or others to even the odds a little or something. I don't want to watch Lucci and co just get destroyed by the full might of Egghead's superior technology and inventions.
I don't know what to expect with Kuma. You'd think he's gonna have to start teleporting cause nothing else would really make sense. I guess the Revs could restrain him and use him like a compass to travel wherever he wants to go? I guess it'd be a very one piece way to finally get Dragon's and Luffy to meet if it's Kuma accidentally teleporting a panicking dragon to egghead.
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@Marcotty said in Chapter 1067: Punk Records:
Hopefully the aftermath of Judge and Ceasar beating each other up will be the end of this cover story. I'd prefer if we immediately jumped into a new one or "scenes around the world," but I'd even take cover requests at this point if Oda needs a little break from them.
I suspect as soon as Judge is reminded who Caesar is, it would flashback to their days when they were on MADS.
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I want to watch Lucci and co get destroyed by an android that is designed solely to eat and poop.
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Brain Brain fruit, eh? I don't know man but this closely after the strenght fruit for the fighter and the sickness fruit for a doctor these abilities just feel 'meh' to me.
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We're pumping the brakes a little here, compared to the last couple of chapters, but that's okay. We're in a new volume, one way or another, so things will need to start building up again. It's a short chapter too, going into the break, but I'll live.
Judge VS Caesar is an interesting matchup. They used to work together, so the question becomes how well does Judge know Caesar's hax powers and did he incorporate a breathing apparatus into his Raid suit? I'll bet on Judge for now, but I'm not sure what to expect to come after this. The upheaval of Caesar winning and presumably trying to usurp the Germa 66, on the other hand, would make a clear path for the next few volumes of this story.
I'm surprised to learn Vegapunk has a devil fruit, but happy that it's made clear he was already a genius before eating it. You can have all the information in the world but what really matters is how you use it. The real world internet has given us many examples of people who have access to the majority of all human knowledge but no idea how to parse the useful from the irrelevant, the instructional from the cautionary and the entertaining from the factual. (Put a pin in the the internet as a concept for this chapter...) It also plays into what I was saying last week from the books at the bottom of the lake. They're all publicly available texts, it takes either a team of world class-researchers or a full fledges genius to use that knowledge to even learn about the Ancient Kingdom's existence through them.
Obviously the Vegaclones don't need the actual power of the fruit with the Punk Records storage to call back to, but did they inherit the weaknesses to water and seastone from the main body? I'll be interested to see what the answer is.
The other important implication of the big brain coming from a devil fruit is that Vegapunk is now almost certainly not the first to have that giant head. So the Space Pirates, with their noticeably similar jolly roger, don't have to have been made in his lifetime.
The whole Punk Records bit is an interesting fantasy take on the internet. Jinbe raises an excellent point about the kind of idealogical bias that can influence the data if you take from too many sources without properly vetting either them or their information. And Vegapunk waves his concerns off before we even get to the real important stuff, the idea from above that people don't always know how to use information. Getting lots of points of view on an issue or event can be useful, but if the people accessing that data aren't equipped to think critically about it they can end up being influenced. And that's not even starting on the shift from biases to agendas. It's more than possible to deliver factually correct information in a way that leads people who take what you're saying at face value to draw the wrong conclusion. A good example from the real world internet would be the use of crime statistics in discussions about race, which are used by racists to suggest cultural or even biological predispositions to certain behaviours; when they're really evidence of systemic issues pushing certain groups of people into more desperate circumstances. And the World Government, with years of experience erasing history and manipulating the media to say what they want, would absolutely start taking advantage of that.
Wow, the politics of information and how it's presented are complicated, huh? Let's go back to our silly pirate comic.
Luffy's stag beetle bit and Vegapunk's perfectionism are both pretty funny. But how did Vegapunk know what colour the dragon would be before anyone even ate the fruit?
The 900 year old robot that attacked Marie Geoise the year fishmen started acquiring their human rights is a tantalising plot tease, but I'm not expecting a full explanation of why a connection between Ryugu Kingdom and the World Government was so important until the actual Void Century flashback. Maybe a failsafe to keep Poseidon from falling into enemy hands?
Vegapunk asking to leave Egghead has a lot of potential as a plot hook. He has the Elbaf ties to lead the crew there for Robin and Saul's reunion, among other things. He could want to go somewhere to complete his Devil Fruit reserach. He might just want to know the truth of the Void Century and decide to be the kick in the pants the crew need to start getting into it. Of course it's far from guaranteed that he'll actually leave with them (and certainly won't do so as a full crewmate), but I'm liking the concept for now.
I'm not sure what to make of Kuma's awakening at the end. Nothing that happens in the chapter really feels like it could be a trigger that would reach him from so far away. It could be the Vegaclones getting ready for battle, I guess, but I'm not fully sold.
And that's where this story leaves us for the break. A lot of stuff set up, not much resolved, but you've gotta have ones like that sometimes to let the story build, especially when we're still so relatively early into a new arc.
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Incoming MADS flashback as soon as Judge remembers Caesar's name.
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I imagine from the next chapter onwards it's where the conflict will start. My questions is if CP0 will just attempt to go all offensive now or if they will go to the Marine base nearby and force the Marines there to join them in attacking Egghead? I still think the Seraphim will be the characters the Straw Hats need to fight and that means the WG is going to need to have some way of forcing the Seraphim to side with them. Maybe Lilith being 'The Evil' means she will actually side with the WG and go against the other Vegapunks.
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Well I'm hyped, I don't dislike this arc at all
My guess is that mecha giant was sent to the future to destroy his natural enemies
They're so advanced, i don't think time travel is limited to one person to use, remember the two dragon thing was made possible by someone who's less genius than those old folks
I predict this mecha giant to wake up soon and drop some lore.
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@black-leg-jex That would be quite dumb of her as CP0's orders are to kill Vegapunk and his satellites, as well.
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Anyone else think Vegapunk's design is taken from that famous photo of Albert Einstein sticking his tongue out?
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@Deicide said in Chapter 1067: Punk Records:
Is anyone else a bit uninsterested in Egghead?
I think Ch 1061 was the last one that had me intrigued. Since then, it's been just the characters walking around and getting exposition. Only the Law/BB parts made me question where are we going. There has been a lot of answers lately, but little to no adventuring, nor interesting new questions, IMO. Oda usually makes each reveal has a cost (like the character having to surpass something first), but now it feels like the answers are coming free of cost.
I'm still questioning myself if Egghead is a full arc, or just a quick setup for something bigger on the horizon. Which is strange, given how much Vegapunk was hyped over the years. I'm not saying the story is bad, just that it isn't keeping me THAT hyped for each next chapter. If you look the last six chapters (half a volume, or 2 months IRL), aside from from BB/Law clashing, you find surprisingly little tension, action, or adventuring. As a consequence, I find myself with little to talk about each week.
Nah, this arc is fascinating so far. It's obviously a expositional transition arc most likely leading to Elbaf. Vegapunk's pretty much exactly what I expected too, total ally and a goofy old man. We're seeing the payoff of groundwork that was laid years and years ago, things are finally happening. We don't need new questions at this stage, it's time for answers. It's like this was what Oda had in mind during post Enies Lobby.
I also wasn't fond of the scene switching to Law and Blackbeard for those chapters, it didn't really have anything to do with what's going on and coulda been done before the arc started. It was neat that the Pudding thing coincided with the cover story, but maybe the cover story coulda been done faster. Maybe Oda put it there to add a bit of action to keep people from getting too comfy, but now it seems like we're getting into the actual conflict with Cipher Pol arriving. I'm curious to see how thing will escalate, I'm guessing CP will fail to capture Vegapunk and seraphim will be the powerhouse here.
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I'm not sure if I should trust Lilith or get kanjuro vibes from her.
If she represents the evil side of vegapunk that would work for the evil side(wg) as long as they provide the money for her experiments, did she make a deal with WG to betray the other vegapunks. Assuming she is not completely controled by vegapunk like judge sons.
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I don't know if it's just coincidence that we were told a story about a giant robot that mysteriously activated itself and took action towards some unknown ends in a chapter in which a giant robot activated itself and started taking action towards some unknown ends...
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@Captain-M said in Chapter 1067: Punk Records:
Luffy's stag beetle bit and Vegapunk's perfectionism are both pretty funny. But how did Vegapunk know what colour the dragon would be before anyone even ate the fruit?
Maybe he did not know the exact color, only that his manipulations had not achieved likeness on this aspect.
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@Ivotas said in Chapter 1067: Punk Records:
Brain Brain fruit, eh? I don't know man but this closely after the strenght fruit for the fighter and the sickness fruit for a doctor these abilities just feel 'meh' to me.
Really? I had the same feeling about the BB pirates but I thought everything about the brain fruit was just hilarious or really creative, from its silly name to the ludicrous look the user gets and the way you can put your brain elsewhere.
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If the Punk Records are destroyed Vegapunk is basically braindead.
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@Zhenja That‘s true, I wonder if he‘ll somehow take it with him or have some sort of super defense system in place.
The way Shaka confidently tells everyone to prepare for battle makes it look like the Vegapunks might take on CP0 by themselves. Other users have already mentioned that Lucci is probably only there as a hypetool.
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@Deicide said in Chapter 1067: Punk Records:
Is anyone else a bit uninsterested in Egghead?
I think Ch 1061 was the last one that had me intrigued. Since then, it's been just the characters walking around and getting exposition. Only the Law/BB parts made me question where are we going. There has been a lot of answers lately, but little to no adventuring, nor interesting new questions, IMO. Oda usually makes each reveal has a cost (like the character having to surpass something first), but now it feels like the answers are coming free of cost.
I'm still questioning myself if Egghead is a full arc, or just a quick setup for something bigger on the horizon. Which is strange, given how much Vegapunk was hyped over the years. I'm not saying the story is bad, just that it isn't keeping me THAT hyped for each next chapter. If you look the last six chapters (half a volume, or 2 months IRL), aside from from BB/Law clashing, you find surprisingly little tension, action, or adventuring. As a consequence, I find myself with little to talk about each week.
I somehow share the sentiment. It’s not that I am not enjoying the arc or finding it uninteresting, but I am not finding much to discuss about, so I am not feeling very “engaged” compared to Wano (which I didn’t enjoy since the first act, but was always avid to discuss).
I definitely liked the chapters a lot for what they present (Vegapunk flashback reveal had me laughing loudly and his dialogue with Dragon was one of my favorite things in years), but at the same time the chapter are not making me feel curious for what is to come (and that’s what usually makes me want to discuss).
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@Satsuki It most certainly is, as he also has the crazy hair Einstein does, too.
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@Barkworm said in Chapter 1067: Punk Records:
@Zhenja That‘s true, I wonder if he‘ll somehow take it with him or have some sort of super defense system in place.
The way Shaka confidently tells everyone to prepare for battle makes it look like the Vegapunks might take on CP0 by themselves. Other users have already mentioned that Lucci is probably only there as a hypetool.
Kinda weird to hype him up then seeing as how Luffy already fought him and even him strengthening up during the timeskip still feels redundant to me somehow. The consequence of taking down “strongest creature” Kaido I guess.
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Lucci is useful because he's still strong enough to be a threat, but there's definitely someone stronger in CP0, so nothing gets lost once he gets his crazy ass beaten.
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@Johnny-B-Decent said in Chapter 1067: Punk Records:
Lucci is useful because he's still strong enough to be a threat, but there's definitely someone stronger in CP0, so nothing gets lost once he gets his crazy ass beaten.
Luffy vs. Blackbeard, Sakazuki, and Im seem to be the top priorities at this point.
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Lucci got nothing on that dude:
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@Zhenja In a more violent series, that dude's head would have exploded.
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apparently he woke up to shoot spicy photos then return to death status real quick
dude's a chad even while offscreened.
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@Zhenja said in Chapter 1067: Punk Records:
Lucci got nothing on that dude:
That's the peak of CP0, can't get more badass than that.Makes me wonder if Guernica is still back there.
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Lucci's going to take off his mask and Luffy will not recognize him even after Chopper reminds him.
Luffy will, however, recognize Hattori.
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That would be great
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Maybe Saul is the man marked by flames
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@Johnny-B-Decent said in Chapter 1067: Punk Records:
@Zhenja In a more violent series, that dude's head would have exploded.
Kinemon: did you hear about the 12 supreme grade heads.
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@Shiebs said in Chapter 1067: Punk Records:
Maybe Saul is the man marked by flames
If he is, and has links to the final Road Poneglyph, then I guess we'll be at Laugh Tale by 2023 then.
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@electricmastro said in Chapter 1067: Punk Records:
@Barkworm said in Chapter 1067: Punk Records:
@Zhenja That‘s true, I wonder if he‘ll somehow take it with him or have some sort of super defense system in place.
The way Shaka confidently tells everyone to prepare for battle makes it look like the Vegapunks might take on CP0 by themselves. Other users have already mentioned that Lucci is probably only there as a hypetool.
Kinda weird to hype him up then seeing as how Luffy already fought him and even him strengthening up during the timeskip still feels redundant to me somehow. The consequence of taking down “strongest creature” Kaido I guess.
Vegapunk beating CP0 will hype up Vegapunk, not Lucci.
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Or they will not fight at all. Buggy, Crocodile or Bellamy all came up for a team up. Only Bellamy "fought" Luffy and that was mostly because Doflamingo made him do it. What's worse it looked exactly the same as the first time minus the oomph. We have yet to see a previous enemy come back at be significantly weaker than before.
It is a possibility that Lucci will be taken care off more easily than before, but I'm not holding my breath on it. For all we know he might turn on the WG.
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For a while I thought the point of introducing Germa's cloning science was to point to Big Mom taking advantage of the Souls of those clones to grow her Homie army, in a general sense of growing power.
Now it's becoming clear that the real purpose of having Germa introduce the science of cloning was to segway into Vegapunk making the Sepra's.
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Kizaru would make a good villain for the arc. I don't know why the WG decided to kill Vegapunk, and what plans they did for it, but the CP0 is clearly not enough for that to happen, it would be much better to send an Admiral. Kizaru has connections to Sentoumaru, who had connections to Vegapunk, but I don't see any clues for them to appear in this arc.
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You know, just because of how wild it would be, I'd actually like to see CP-0 pull it off.
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CP0 i can´t see as much more than a minor inconvience for this arc, but i guess the SHs have to overcome a seraphim.
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@Deicide said in Chapter 1067: Punk Records:
You know, just because of how wild it would be, I'd actually like to see CP-0 pull it off.
It would not be wild. To have one of the most build up characters in the series killed by a lame CP0 trio would just be a travesty.
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CP0 could mostly be there to tattle on Luffy being there to the Elders. If they already know Vegapunk's researching the Void Century, Luffy (AKA Joy Boy) also being there learning their secrets could be enough for them to destroy Egghead like they did Lulusia.
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@Nectar So, Luffy will have to use his powers to effectively giant fist Uranus into submission.
(I'm so sorry for this post. XD)