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      Just struggled through the recent episode. Watching Kaido tell his boy that he is the guardian deity. This is the exact moment I should have known that he wasn't SH material.

      Carrot on the other hand was not given a chance to reply, so she hasn't closed the door on possibly being a SH like Yamato. Yamato said he will open the borders. I believe him.

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        @Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

        @Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

        Totally made up guidelines that do not apply to other strawhats.

        Jimbe and Robin come to mind immediately.

        Yes, exactly. You're basically helping to make my point for me.

        A character joining so late in the series means they will have noticeably different circumstances than characters who have managed to get panel time for decades.

        So then what you just made up absolutely does not apply to whoever joins next.

        Zik Of The 7 Swords: Vision? What do you know about my vision? My vision would turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions, and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself, Are you ready to see that vision?

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          Can’t wait for Pekoms to return.

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              @Zhenja Pekoms does have to return to the series, I wonder how Oda will do that, to be honest his design and powers are way more unique than Carrots, I mean he’s a lion with turtle powers, his design is badass and cute at the same time and we don’t have a mink on the crew or grand fleet

              I don’t think he’s joining but he would be a cool ally or grand fleet member in my opinion

              And speaking of pink colored characters who need to return, Perona needs to come back into the story, maybe her and Gecko Moria will become allies in the near future

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                @Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                It's possible. But I think Oda clearly meant to write Yamato not joining as a twist

                Wahahahahah!

                Yep, reminds me of what Oda has done in the past, so I'm expecting good things.

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                  At first, I thought Pekoms would appear with Pound (both were in Cacao Island when WCI ended) in Bege's cover story.
                  Then I expected him to show up in Germa's cover story.

                  I've been foiled twice.

                  Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

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                    Pekoms and Smoothie most likely play some role later. Pero down. Snack used to build up Urouge. Dogtooth and Cracker stomped on by Luffy. Oldest son and 3 SCs already used up.

                    Pekoms and Carrot the only Minks to go out, join Yonko crew, and inherit Pedro's will.

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                      Smoothie is a character that either Oda is using to hype and then troll the audience or has some big plan for her but needs to keep her away for now.

                      Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

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                        @Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                        So then what you just made up absolutely does not apply to whoever joins next.

                        Let's revisit my post:

                        "If a character is joining, you can bet Oda would be:

                        1. Introducing them sooner rather than later.
                        2. Wasting no time getting them into panels with the rest of the crew.
                        3. Tying them directly into a central plot thread."

                        What about bothers you? Why exactly are you getting triggered?

                        You said these ideas don't apply to former crewmates, which I agreed with; Concerns regarding "is there enough time left" obviously weren't a problem 10-20 years ago when those other crewmates were implemented.

                        I can't even imagine why you would disagree with my post.

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                        @electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                        @Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                        It's possible. But I think Oda clearly meant to write Yamato not joining as a twist

                        Wahahahahah!

                        Yep, reminds me of what Oda has done in the past, so I'm expecting good things.

                        It doesn't remind me what Oda's done in the past, because it was only a minor detail in the chapter. That's not how Oda would treat a real crewmate joining.

                        On top of that, Oda has gone out of his way to avoid drawing memorable interactions between the Strawhat pirates and Yamato. He wrote the entire thing as a classic red herring.

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                          @Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                          @Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                          So then what you just made up absolutely does not apply to whoever joins next.

                          Let's revisit my post:

                          "If a character is joining, you can bet Oda would be:

                          1. Introducing them sooner rather than later.
                          2. Wasting no time getting them into panels with the rest of the crew.
                          3. Tying them directly into a central plot thread."

                          What about bothers you? Why exactly are you getting triggered?

                          I guess you’re not understanding what you’re reading.

                          You said these ideas don't apply to former crewmates, which I agreed with; Concerns regarding "is there enough time left" obviously weren't a problem 10-20 years ago when those other crewmates were implemented.

                          If they do not apply to current crew mates (there are no former crewmates) then there is no reason to think any of that will apply to future crewmates.

                          The entire thing is baseless.

                          I can't even imagine why you would disagree with my post.

                          Cuz it’s wrong.

                          Zik Of The 7 Swords: Vision? What do you know about my vision? My vision would turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions, and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself, Are you ready to see that vision?

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                            @Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                            It doesn't remind me what Oda's done in the past, because it was only a minor detail in the chapter. That's not how Oda would treat a real crewmate joining.

                            On top of that, Oda has gone out of his way to avoid drawing memorable interactions between the Strawhat pirates and Yamato. He wrote the entire thing as a classic red herring.

                            You still agree that Vivi and Jinbe refused Luffy though, right?

                            In fact, seeing as how Jinbe in particular still came back after Jinbe refused Luffy back then, then I don’t feel obligated to believe that Yamato’s statement of still wanting to join the crew in Chapter 1059 is a red herring after all.

                            That said, I’m sure I don’t say this as a reality denier either, because if it turns out that Yamato is more like Vivi in that she admits to loving Wano above freedom, and even gives up on Luffy, Oden, and freedom in favor of babysitting in Wano, possibly for the rest of her life, then I’ll admit to being wrong, like I’ve said before.

                            And that this entire thing was meant to “red herring” us off guard into the twist of Yamato being a tragic character who has to shoulder the burden of never being free at sea. I wouldn’t like it, but would still accept it if that’s the tragic reality Oda is truly portraying with her.

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                              @Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                              I guess you’re not understanding what you’re reading.

                              You know what? Maybe I'm not.

                              If you wouldn't mind explaining your point of view a little more, we could get to the bottom of this.

                              But you clearly don't want to. I've asked you to elaborate on your thoughts, and you obviously are not interested in doing that.

                              If they do not apply to current crew mates (there are no former crewmates) then there is no reason to think any of that will apply to future crewmates.

                              The entire thing is baseless.

                              You're comparing current crewmates and future crewmates as if though you don't see the big elephant in the room: The series is very, very close to ending. That changes things, does it not?

                              The final crewmate is not going to be like the current crewmates so far. The proximity to the end of the series does not allow for that.

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                              @Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                              You still agree that Vivi and Jinbe refused Luffy though, right?

                              In fact, seeing as how Jinbe in particular still came back after Jinbe refused Luffy back then, then I don’t feel obligated to believe that Yamato’s statement of still wanting to join the crew in Chapter 1059 is a red herring after all.

                              That said, I’m sure I don’t say this as a reality denier either, because if it turns out that Yamato is more like Vivi in that she admits to loving Wano above freedom, and even gives up on Luffy, Oden, and freedom in favor of babysitting in Wano, possibly for the rest of her life, then I’ll admit to being wrong, like I’ve said before.

                              And that this entire thing was meant to “red herring” us off guard into the twist of Yamato being a tragic character who has to shoulder the burden of never being free at sea. I wouldn’t like it, but would still accept it if that’s the tragic reality Oda is truly portraying with her.

                              This is all very fair. You do you.

                              My main point was just that when Vivi and Jinbe refused Luffy, there were many pages dedicated to it. The author treated it with a lot of love and respect.

                              Unfortunately, Yamato was effectively sidelined at the end of Wano. I feel lucky we even got that single page of her in 1059 explaining her decision. Oda is just not treating her with the same love he gives to other Nakama. 😕

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                                @Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                @Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                I guess you’re not understanding what you’re reading.

                                You know what? Maybe I'm not.

                                If you wouldn't mind explaining your point of view a little more, we could get to the bottom of this.

                                But you clearly don't want to. I've asked you to elaborate on your thoughts, and you obviously are not interested in doing that.

                                If they do not apply to current crew mates (there are no former crewmates) then there is no reason to think any of that will apply to future crewmates.

                                The entire thing is baseless.

                                You're comparing current crewmates and future crewmates as if though you don't see the big elephant in the room: The series is very, very close to ending. That changes things, does it not?

                                The final crewmate is not going to be like the current crewmates so far. The proximity to the end of the series does not allow for that.

                                @electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                @Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                You still agree that Vivi and Jinbe refused Luffy though, right?

                                In fact, seeing as how Jinbe in particular still came back after Jinbe refused Luffy back then, then I don’t feel obligated to believe that Yamato’s statement of still wanting to join the crew in Chapter 1059 is a red herring after all.

                                That said, I’m sure I don’t say this as a reality denier either, because if it turns out that Yamato is more like Vivi in that she admits to loving Wano above freedom, and even gives up on Luffy, Oden, and freedom in favor of babysitting in Wano, possibly for the rest of her life, then I’ll admit to being wrong, like I’ve said before.

                                And that this entire thing was meant to “red herring” us off guard into the twist of Yamato being a tragic character who has to shoulder the burden of never being free at sea. I wouldn’t like it, but would still accept it if that’s the tragic reality Oda is truly portraying with her.

                                This is all very fair. You do you.

                                My main point was just that when Vivi and Jinbe refused Luffy, there were many pages dedicated to it. The author treated it with a lot of love and respect.

                                Unfortunately, Yamato was effectively sidelined at the end of Wano. I feel lucky we even got that single page of her in 1059 explaining her decision. Oda is just not treating her with the same love he gives to other Nakama. 😕

                                I think that just about everything got sidelined, like Carrot not giving her answer about being Zou’s ruler or Zoro not visiting Ryuma’s grave and potentially learning more about his heritage even though he said he’d visit Ryuma’s grave. That’s not even including stuff not explaining about the Lunarians either despite all the showcase King got.

                                With Vivi, I presume for now, still has going back to Alabasta as her top priority. Yamato is helping defend Wano for now, but still has sailing the seas as a primary interest and hasn’t given up on Luffy either. I also figure that Yamato would be more relevant to the bigger picture in going to Laugh Tale to find lore answers there for Momo while he finally manages to hold down Wano himself. It makes the most sense to me for another life-changing moment to come along which affects both Momo and Yamato.

                                I always remember that joining the Straw Hats isn’t just some throwaway thing, but an occasion where they play a greater purpose of some sort alongside Luffy, and I think Yamato would be the one who’d have the most to gain as far as where her interests ultimately lie.

                                You may not see it as Oda’s love per say, but I think it would be to Yamato, Momo, and our benefit if Momo would be the one to inspire her to go to sea to find the answers Oden learned about, so as to better understand the situation with the borders, Pluton, Joy Boy, etc. and I think there are enough examples in the manga to reinforce that Yamato is willing to explore all that for Momo and Oden’s sake seeing as how I don’t see Yamato wanting to throw away Oden’s dream like that and have Oden’s death be in vain.

                                So then, until the manga proves me wrong, that’s what I think. 😊

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                                  Vegapunk
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                                  Caribou

                                  Who’s going to travel with the Straw Hats?

                                  Or join? Personally I don’t think anyone from here will join but who knows

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                                    @Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

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                                    Who’s going to travel with the Straw Hats?

                                    Or join? Personally I don’t think anyone from here will join but who knows

                                    Hmm

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                                      It would only be fittingly amusing to see Caribou retain his ride for a safer place and then be dumbfounded when the genius of the world Vegapunk ends up right there on the same ship for the same reason.

                                      I can already see him asking if he should ride in a barrel too.

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                                        @Marcotty said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                        It would only be fittingly amusing to see Caribou retain his ride for a safer place and then be dumbfounded when the genius of the world Vegapunk ends up right there on the same ship for the same reason.

                                        I can already see him asking if he should ride in a barrel too.

                                        Actually, seeing as how Lucci is now on Egghead, I suppose he could be there to cross paths with Caribou and make a deal in regards to Ancient Weapon info.

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                                          @electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                          @Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

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                                          Who’s going to travel with the Straw Hats?

                                          Or join? Personally I don’t think anyone from here will join but who knows

                                          Hmm

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                                          I personally would love for a mad scientist to join the crew, and he has a dream, just not sure yet

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                                            @electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                            think that just about everything got sidelined, like Carrot not giving her answer about being Zou’s ruler or Zoro not visiting Ryuma’s grave and potentially learning more about his heritage even though he said he’d visit Ryuma’s grave. That’s not even including stuff not explaining about the Lunarians either despite all the showcase King got.

                                            If something got sidelined, it probably wasn't very important overall. Oda needs to make cuts to side-plots in order for the manga to end at a reasonable time.

                                            Momo, Shanks, Green Bull, Wano's Poneglyph, new Yonkou/Bounties, etc were all given plenty of attention.

                                            @electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                            You may not see it as Oda’s love per say, but I think it would be to Yamato, Momo, and our benefit if Momo would be the one to inspire her to go to sea to find the answers Oden learned about, so as to better understand the situation with the borders, Pluton, Joy Boy, etc. and I think there are enough examples in the manga to reinforce that Yamato is willing to explore all that for Momo and Oden’s sake seeing as how I don’t see Yamato wanting to throw away Oden’s dream like that and have Oden’s death be in vain.

                                            I think you're right about Yamato's characterization, but there are many plot points that unfortunately end up happening off-panel.

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                                              @Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                              @electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                              think that just about everything got sidelined, like Carrot not giving her answer about being Zou’s ruler or Zoro not visiting Ryuma’s grave and potentially learning more about his heritage even though he said he’d visit Ryuma’s grave. That’s not even including stuff not explaining about the Lunarians either despite all the showcase King got.

                                              If something got sidelined, it probably wasn't very important overall. Oda needs to make cuts to side-plots in order for the manga to end at a reasonable time.

                                              Momo, Shanks, Green Bull, Wano's Poneglyph, new Yonkou/Bounties, etc were all given plenty of attention.

                                              @electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                              You may not see it as Oda’s love per say, but I think it would be to Yamato, Momo, and our benefit if Momo would be the one to inspire her to go to sea to find the answers Oden learned about, so as to better understand the situation with the borders, Pluton, Joy Boy, etc. and I think there are enough examples in the manga to reinforce that Yamato is willing to explore all that for Momo and Oden’s sake seeing as how I don’t see Yamato wanting to throw away Oden’s dream like that and have Oden’s death be in vain.

                                              I think you're right about Yamato's characterization, but there are many plot points that unfortunately end up happening off-panel.

                                              Well at that point, I think that's more to do with Oda's questionable prioritization of when to show some things now and when to show other things later. To say that Oda's questionable use of priority and time is the same as Oda's way of telling us that Oda loves Yamato less might as well also have us say that Oda loves Zoro less because he skipped over him visiting Ryuma's grave and exploring his heritage, and that Oda loves Carrot less because he didn't show her final answer in regards to the Minks' ruler offer.

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                                                @Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

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                                                @Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                Vegapunk
                                                Jewelry Bonney
                                                Bartholomew Kuma
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                                                Who’s going to travel with the Straw Hats?

                                                Or join? Personally I don’t think anyone from here will join but who knows

                                                Hmm

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                                                I personally would love for a mad scientist to join the crew, and he has a dream, just not sure yet

                                                To be honest, Franky feels like he fits that mad scientist role to me already despite being a dedicated shipwright. Not sure how I feel about him rounding off "Luffy's crew of 10", but I suppose at least he'd have some funny moments with the crew.

                                                I will also admit that it was a nice touch for Oda to add him talking about carrying on his friend's will, reminiscent of what Dalton also said. Every other Straw Hat is doing that, so nice to seem him still reinforce such themes.

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                                                  @Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                  @Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                  I guess you’re not understanding what you’re reading.

                                                  You know what? Maybe I'm not.

                                                  If you wouldn't mind explaining your point of view a little more, we could get to the bottom of this.

                                                  But you clearly don't want to. I've asked you to elaborate on your thoughts, and you obviously are not interested in doing that.

                                                  I already explained it. It’s pretty straightforward.

                                                  Perhaps reread it again.

                                                  If you’re still confused guess it can’t be helped

                                                  If they do not apply to current crew mates (there are no former crewmates) then there is no reason to think any of that will apply to future crewmates.

                                                  The entire thing is baseless.

                                                  You're comparing current crewmates and future crewmates as if though you don't see the big elephant in the room: The series is very, very close to ending. That changes things, does it not?

                                                  The final crewmate is not going to be like the current crewmates so far. The proximity to the end of the series does not allow for that.

                                                  Again this isn’t based on anything other than your assumption.

                                                  You made up a guideline for the next crewmate saying it will be different based on you thinking the end of the series and when it approaches changes that. There’s more than 3 years left of one piece. I don’t see why you have to pretend like you know exactly what Oda will do differently or what he will prioritize before the end of the story.

                                                  Zik Of The 7 Swords: Vision? What do you know about my vision? My vision would turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions, and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself, Are you ready to see that vision?

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                                                    If VP comes along, seems like a Vivi/Law type princess.

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                                                      @Cockycent but how many are coming on the ride, there’s Vegapunk, and his six clones of him, and his body guard Sentomaru, all of the seraphim, Bonney is also there with no way out, and who knows what Kuma is up to

                                                      Could be a lot of passengers

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                                                        @Shiebs And his huge-ass brain.

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                                                          @Johnny-B-Decent true that

                                                          Man either something crazy is gonna happen at the end of this arc or the Straw Hats are gonna have a lot of new companions 😀

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                                                            When Kuma shows up he'll just send most of the Vegapunks back to the revolutionary army homebase or wherever they want to go.

                                                            OG Vegapunk may want to stick around to show Luffy or Bonney something.

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                                                              Just for fun question out of curiosity. Which would you rather see as a Straw Hat?: Rebecca or Yamato?

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                                                                @electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                Just for fun question out of curiosity. Which would you rather see as a Straw Hat?: Rebecca or Yamato?

                                                                Yamato no questions asked, it’s not even a competition

                                                                To quote the late great Samuel Jackson, “Ain’t the same ****in ballpark, it ain’t the same league, it ain’t even the same ****in sport

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                                                                  @Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                  @electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                  Just for fun question out of curiosity. Which would you rather see as a Straw Hat?: Rebecca or Yamato?

                                                                  Yamato no questions asked, it’s not even a competition

                                                                  To quote the late great Samuel Jackson, “Ain’t the same ****in ballpark, it ain’t the same league, it ain’t even the same ****in sport

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                                                                  I understand that much. I was just thinking about how Yamato isn't as "deserving" to be a Straw Hat since she didn't spend much time with Luffy, yet I think back to how much time Rebecca was with Luffy and I don't figure people think Rebecca is more deserving. lol

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                                                                    If Vegapunk does join he’ll have that White Color scheme down that the Straw Hats are missing, the one people thought Yamato would fill

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                                                                      Maybe Vegapunk could combine all his satellites into one super version of them, and that's the one who joins while the original stays with Dragon?

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                                                                        @Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                        If Vegapunk does join he’ll have that White Color scheme down that the Straw Hats are missing, the one people thought Yamato would fill

                                                                        I do wonder what Yamato is doing right about now while Egghead is going on, speaking of which.

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                                                                          @electricmastro eventually someone is going to invade Wano, I assume Black Beard, until then I doubt we will see much of what’s happening there, but who knows how long that will take, if it was going to happen right away I don’t see the logic of Oda having him stay in the first place

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                                                                            @Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                            @electricmastro eventually someone is going to invade Wano, I assume Black Beard, until then I doubt we will see much of what’s happening there, but who knows how long that will take, if it was going to happen right away I don’t see the logic of Oda having him stay in the first place

                                                                            Yeah, I think pretty much everyone here has figured out a reason Oda had Yamato in Wano is for when a lot of crap really starts hitting the fan for when some gigantic force comes along, and then not only see Yamato dramatically struggle to the point of needing Luffy’s help again, but also get a lot of cool double page spreads as well. I definitely doubt he just had Yamato there to ward off some inconsequential pirate scrubs and nothing more.

                                                                            In fact, that’s probably why Oda showed off Blackbeard in the Egghead Arc the way he did, so to keep us guessing if Blackbeard will go to Wano depending on whether or not Law runs away with Wano’s poneglyph info. There’s also the possibility of Blackbeard wanting to get Kaido and Big Mom’s devil fruits of course.

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                                                                              But anyway, while I can see Yamato leaving after Momo trains himself up for a few more months, I’m not sure about Tama. For as much as I’m excited by the idea of a ninja being on the crew and how cool that would be, somehow I think it would take Tama longer to train herself up to a satisfactory level. I don’t want to say she’ll just join after the epilogue, but with how downplayed her desire to leave was and how she seems willing to be an apprentice under Shinobu for long-term, I suppose then Tama is in for the long haul before she joins in her case.

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                                                                                I’d love to see Kuma join but between being able to immediately hop to islands by himself or send other people wherever he wants and taking away pain and fatigue instantly he’s pretty OP

                                                                                Plus he could never fit through the door lol

                                                                                But he does have a 2.9 DF

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                                                                                  @Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                                  Again this isn’t based on anything other than your assumption.

                                                                                  You made up a guideline for the next crewmate saying it will be different based on you thinking the end of the series and when it approaches changes that. There’s more than 3 years left of one piece. I don’t see why you have to pretend like you know exactly what Oda will do differently or what he will prioritize before the end of the story.

                                                                                  My assumptions are just common sense. Oda said he wanted to end the series in 3 years; Now, I don't believe he can reach that goal, but something has to be gleaned from that statement, don't you think?

                                                                                  I don't pretend to know what Oda will do, I simply use the most bare-bones common sense I can come up with. If you can come up with something better, please let me know, and I will be glad to change how I think.

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                                                                                  Well at that point, I think that's more to do with Oda's questionable prioritization of when to show some things now and when to show other things later. To say that Oda's questionable use of priority and time is the same as Oda's way of telling us that Oda loves Yamato less might as well also have us say that Oda loves Zoro less because he skipped over him visiting Ryuma's grave and exploring his heritage, and that Oda loves Carrot less because he didn't show her final answer in regards to the Minks' ruler offer.

                                                                                  I would immediately offer the idea that Zoro visiting Ryuuma's grave, as well as Carrot's response to the Mink's, are overall unimportant things which is why he chose to leave them out.

                                                                                  I don't even agree with the idea that Oda has "questionable use of priority and time." He knows what he's doing. If he doesn't show something, it's because it got cut for time, not because he has trouble managing priorities.

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                                                                                    @Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                                    @Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                                    Again this isn’t based on anything other than your assumption.

                                                                                    You made up a guideline for the next crewmate saying it will be different based on you thinking the end of the series and when it approaches changes that. There’s more than 3 years left of one piece. I don’t see why you have to pretend like you know exactly what Oda will do differently or what he will prioritize before the end of the story.

                                                                                    My assumptions are just common sense. Oda said he wanted to end the series in 3 years; Now, I don't believe he can reach that goal, but something has to be gleaned from that statement, don't you think?

                                                                                    I don't pretend to know what Oda will do, I simply use the most bare-bones common sense I can come up with. If you can come up with something better, please let me know, and I will be glad to change how I think.

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                                                                                    Well at that point, I think that's more to do with Oda's questionable prioritization of when to show some things now and when to show other things later. To say that Oda's questionable use of priority and time is the same as Oda's way of telling us that Oda loves Yamato less might as well also have us say that Oda loves Zoro less because he skipped over him visiting Ryuma's grave and exploring his heritage, and that Oda loves Carrot less because he didn't show her final answer in regards to the Minks' ruler offer.

                                                                                    I would immediately offer the idea that Zoro visiting Ryuuma's grave, as well as Carrot's response to the Mink's, are overall unimportant things which is why he chose to leave them out.

                                                                                    Well if it’s unimportant, then why bother showing narratives of it to begin with then?

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                                                                                      I think I’m getting why Oda paired Yamato up with Momo as much as he did. While people like Nami had Bellmere as her mom and Franky had Tom as his dad, Yamato never seemed to have a stable family surrogate in her life. It seems she never talked with Oden, and never had Ushimaru and Ace in her life long enough for it to be especially meaningful like Nami/Bellmere and Franky/Tom. For as rushed as Wano’s ending was, I can at least get the understanding of the possible intent Oda is having with Yamato/Momo, because instead of having Yamato stay in Wano forever to baby Momo, I think it’s the opposite, in that Momo is the catalyst that inspires Yamato to sail out instead of Oden. That’s definitely a lot of more meaningful than Yamato being inspired to sail out by an idol she had only known through some old wrinkly journal pages, because it doesn’t top actually having a family surrogate one can talk to and actively share interests and ambitions with.

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                                                                                        @Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                                        @Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                                        Again this isn’t based on anything other than your assumption.

                                                                                        You made up a guideline for the next crewmate saying it will be different based on you thinking the end of the series and when it approaches changes that. There’s more than 3 years left of one piece. I don’t see why you have to pretend like you know exactly what Oda will do differently or what he will prioritize before the end of the story.

                                                                                        My assumptions are just common sense.

                                                                                        If that makes you feel better that’s w/e. Doesn’t change what I said at all.

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                                                                                          And Oda casually mentions gow One Piece isn't ending as soon as you think lol.

                                                                                          Zik Of The 7 Swords: Vision? What do you know about my vision? My vision would turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions, and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself, Are you ready to see that vision?

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                                                                                            Have Yamato and Momo joined already?

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                                                                                              Hmmm...

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                                                                                              Complicating things since 2009.

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                                                                                                @Ubiq said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                                                Hmmm...

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                                                                                                I recall that floating little guy was meant to be the shipwright, like a Klabautermann. I presume he eventually got the idea to make the Klabautermann a plot element rather than a full on crewmate, and make the actual shipwright a big burly guy instead.

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                                                                                                    Anyways, looks like Vegapunk seems even closer now in joining in on sailing with Luffy.

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                                                                                                      @electricmastro he even has the white color theme, which the Straw Hats are missing

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                                                                                                        @Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                                                        @electricmastro he even has the white color theme, which the Straw Hats are missing

                                                                                                        What missing white color scheme?

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