Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?

electricmastro

This isn't so much a general nakama recruitment thread, but more so a thread regarding if Luffy will even get a 10th Senior Officer in the first place, seeing as how Luffy has 9 of them at this point. I feel it's valid to ask in light of Oda mentioning in his interview with Gosho Aoyama about "Luffy's crew of ten" and it being figured that it's too late to meaningfully have anyone else be part of the Straw Hats.

It's also figured that any future Straw Hats would just appear in the epilogue, but with Blackbeard having 10 Titanic Captains, and going by what Oda said, I don't get the impression that 11 Straw Hat Pirates vs. 11 Blackbeard Pirates would just be something that happens in the epilogue. I also don't get the impression that having a rounded out 11 vs. 11 is something Oda would want to pass up either, but what do you guys think?

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Shiebs

I think he’ll get one more member, he said he’d have 10 members, Black Beard also has 10 officers and Oda stated he wanted the Straw Hats to be like a soccer team, which has 11 members

So I’m gonna say yes, I just hope whoever it is gets introduced soon and gets ample time to interact with the rest of the Straw Hats

electricmastro

@Shiebs said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

I think he’ll get one more member, he said he’d have 10 members, Black Beard also has 10 officers and Oda stated he wanted the Straw Hats to be like a soccer team, which has 11 members

So I’m gonna say yes, I just hope whoever it is gets introduced soon and gets ample time to interact with the rest of the Straw Hats

I'm willing to see anyone as a member as long as their Luffy's friend and sees them as such, because if Luffy genuinely respects that person after they've earned it, then I shouldn't feel I should be one to respect them much less, regardless of time.

That said, it would feel really weird if Oda chose to start setting-up the 10th officer now, especially after Chapter 1060 where Luffy's overall dream was made known to his entire crew present at that time. I imagine a new character would have a really tough time being accepted by the community at large, since I understand it was hard enough for Jinbe to get accepted since he wasn't a member for as long as Zoro or even Brook was.

Chams 0

Willing to consider Vivi or Yamato that member. Especially if we think that Ao Kiji is BB's tenth comander, since Ao Kiji would be obviously a traitor and spy.

electricmastro

@Chams-0 said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

Willing to consider Vivi or Yamato that member. Especially if we think that Ao Kiji is BB's tenth comander, since Ao Kiji would be obviously a traitor and spy.

Vivi I'm not so sure since she doesn't seem to have any reliable attacks or devil fruit.

With Yamato though, actually, if Caribou tells Blackbeard about Pluton, and then Blackbeard invades Wano with his Ten Titanic Captains, then assuming Wano has good defense by that point, Yamato might become Luffy’s 10th Senior Officer by then to make it 11 vs. 11 at Wano, unless the fight moves on elsewhere.

Shiebs

The fact that Yamato knows Luffy’s real dream, finding out before his crew even, is definitely important, that’s a huge plus for him joining later on

Even if he doesn’t join by the end of the series him and Vivi will definitely be travel companions in whatever GT or Super type series comes after Oda finishes

BlackbeardPirates

Yes i think Straw Hat will get another officer because obviously it will mirror Blackbeard titanic captain, and about who it is will be depends on who is the Blackbeard final titan.

My personal choice for Blackbeard final is either Weevil or Urouge, both is a huge person, so they will be fit to be a titan captain, because why everyone call Blackbeard commander a titan captain is literally just because they were tall as fuck dude.

But both of them also have disadvantage against them, so i settle with Stronger.
So it will be Caroo (with Vivi) vs Stronger

Possible candidate

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Shiebs

I think the final Black Beard member is someone we haven’t met yet

Also it was said at Dressrosa that Black Beard had ten titanic captains, while Jesus Burgess and BB we’re debating on Aokiji, meaning it couldn’t be him, and weevil was a warlord at the time so that doesn’t make any sense

Also the road to laugh tale made it seem like the last member was someone we didn’t know as well, otherwise they would have just listed Aokiji or Weevil and not leave it as unknown

Also I think Brook will definitely fight Laffite, there way to similar in theme and both use canes, hypnotism and have music themes

I’m personally betting on Sanji fighting Vasco Shot (food theme) or Avalo Pizzaro (both royalty on the same sea)

electricmastro

@Shiebs said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

The fact that Yamato knows Luffy’s real dream, finding out before his crew even, is definitely important, that’s a huge plus for him joining later on

Even if he doesn’t join by the end of the series him and Vivi will definitely be travel companions in whatever GT or Super type series comes after Oda finishes

Also interesting that Yamato has been shown to know Luffy's overall dream and not Vivi, even though Vivi has been shown to have bonded with Luffy more than Yamato. Unless Oda is trying to disrespect Vivi, it really does stick out how things have been framed this way for Yamato, whose greater relevance is pretty much up in the air at this point all things considered.

That said, I think that Yamato could have a little more personal stakes in all this, even with the idea of Blackbeard attacking Wano after Caribou contacts him aside, because of how Blackbeard turned in her first real friend Ace into the Marines and disrespected Whitebeard, whom Oden admired.

danie

This doesn't deserve its own thread. Just put it in the "next strawhat crewmate" thread.

Speaking of which; we should be getting vol.10 of that once the new arc officially starts.

electricmastro

@danie said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

This doesn't deserve its own thread. Just put it in the "next strawhat crewmate" thread.

Speaking of which; we should be getting vol.10 of that once the new arc officially starts.

I thought to do so, but "next strawhat crewmate" implies as if there's certainty there will be another one, and with how things are and there being this much doubt with even people mentioning that the crew is complete, I thought to word it more towards the question as to if there will even be another member in the first place and if there's even a greater point to it, so I thought making another thread was a appropriate going by that. Basically, instead of the question of who will join next, that instead there's the question of if anyone else will join at all. And if the crew is truly complete and that all these examples could just be false leads meant to throw us off for all we know, if that makes any sense.

danie

@electricmastro I mean, it doesn't look to me like you're arguing that their won't be another crewmate. Quite the opposite actually.

Personally, i'm unsure. I think if their Is another crewmate, it will just be Vivi. I'm not very confident that's happening at this point though.

electricmastro

@danie said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

@electricmastro I mean, it doesn't look to me like you're arguing that their won't be another crewmate. Quite the opposite actually.

Personally, i'm unsure. I think if their Is another cremate, it will just be Vivi. I'm not very confident that's happening at this point though.

I'm not necessarily arguing that there won't be, but if there even will be. But if I'm really not being distinct enough, then maybe it could go in the regular crewmate thread. I'd imagine there would be much more doubt going into the discussion like that though, because it seems that regular member-related discussions are met with a lot of doubt and questioning these days unless the question itself is the central point. Since we are in the final saga after all.

Cinder

For some reason it felt like the team was finalized based on chapter 1060's color spread where a reader requested "Redraw the coloring corner page from volume 8 but with all 10 crewmates!"

Ivotas

This is APF. There will be next crewmate threads long after the series has ended.

electricmastro

@Ivotas said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

This is APF. There will be next crewmate threads long after the series has ended.

Really now? Haha.

Ivotas

@electricmastro said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

@Ivotas said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

This is APF. There will be next crewmate threads long after the series has ended.

Really now? Haha.

Oh for sure. I can see a select few make it a real "who will join next" discussion and come up with something like movie, special, novel and other expanded universe stuff. The majority however will likely make it a "who should have joined?/who would you have liked to join?" discussion. This is the place were we can all gather for self therapy sessions at disappointment for why a specific character didn't join. I'll be the Carrot representative.

But in all seriousness. Even with a series not actually runninng anymore, One Piece has more than enough content to fill a forum with retrospective takes for a long while. And then there's always the occational new readers that want to discuss things from their perspective.

fana

Since I'm one of the only ones, it seems, that doesn't believe BB will be defeated only by the SH, I would say that it doesn't matter how many captains BB has.

That 11vs11 with no outside interference will not happen IMO.

Ivotas

@fana
Nah, I actually also believe that there will be outside interferences, team ups or handicap matches too. If Ulti and Page One needed an Emperor to do the heavy lifting for Nami and Usopp I totally see friends of the Strawhats or even captains of the Strawhat Fleet lend their aid.

electricmastro

@fana said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

Since I'm one of the only ones, it seems, that doesn't believe BB will be defeated only by the SH, I would say that it doesn't matter how many captains BB has.

That 11vs11 with no outside interference will not happen IMO.

I suppose the straw hat fleet would make a 1 vs. 1 with all of them redundant. Hmm.

Johnny B. Decent

How about a Junior Officer?

electricmastro

@Johnny-B-Decent said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

How about a Junior Officer?

Now there’s an idea. lol

pRopaaNS

Need 2 more strawhats, Chopper is gonna fight the horse.

Zik

Bon Clay commanding the rest of the level 5.5 Impel Down inmates that will most likely escape before the big war

@Cinder said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

For some reason it felt like the team was finalized based on chapter 1060's color spread where a reader requested "Redraw the coloring corner page from volume 8 but with all 10 crewmates!"

I mentioned in the spoiler thread that colorspread suspiciously has a space inbetween Brook and Robin right above Zoro to fit another character if Of a wanted.

D.aelthasaar

I say 12 + Luffy
I still believe in the old theory of 4 crewmembers in East Blue, 4 in Paradise and 4 in the New World

electricmastro

@D-aelthasaar said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

I say 12 + Luffy
I still believe in the old theory of 4 crewmembers in East Blue, 4 in Paradise and 4 in the New World

Hmm, 13 despite Blackbeard and 10 Titanic Captains making up 11, huh? Interesting.

D.aelthasaar

@electricmastro said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

@D-aelthasaar said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

I say 12 + Luffy
I still believe in the old theory of 4 crewmembers in East Blue, 4 in Paradise and 4 in the New World

Hmm, 13 despite Blackbeard and 10 Titanic Captains making up 11, huh? Interesting.

Nah, I believe Blackbeard will get 12 Titans too
As a matter of fact, the Titans in mythology are 12, like the disciples of Jesus, the zodiac signs, both in their eastern and western version...
12 has such a massive importance in numerology

FelRes

It's pretty much guaranteed either Vivi or Yamato at this point. It doesn't even matter who BB's 10th is, most of his known commanders aren't even really fleshed out at all.

Shiebs

@FelRes said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

It's pretty much guaranteed either Vivi or Yamato at this point. It doesn't even matter who BB's 10th is, most of his known commanders aren't even really fleshed out at all.

Oda needs to do something to make them stand out, there the final villains in the series for our heroes, they should be more than just a character to fight with a few quirks like most of the groups have been

He needs to really make them shine, whether that’s killing shanks and yasopp or defeating Mihawk, he needs to do something to say these guys are both a threat and more than just an opponent

That’s my opinion anyways

Granted I doubt he’ll give all 10 characters tragic backstories and significant moments of hype and build up, but I really wish he would

BlackbeardPirates

BB Pirates probably the only one on one fight remaining for some lesser fighter like Nami or Usopp.
That's why Oda better makes the fight or backstory memorable, Oda need to put both BB or SH sides over.

Aldarion

@D-aelthasaar said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

@electricmastro said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

@D-aelthasaar said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

I say 12 + Luffy
I still believe in the old theory of 4 crewmembers in East Blue, 4 in Paradise and 4 in the New World

Hmm, 13 despite Blackbeard and 10 Titanic Captains making up 11, huh? Interesting.

Nah, I believe Blackbeard will get 12 Titans too
As a matter of fact, the Titans in mythology are 12, like the disciples of Jesus, the zodiac signs, both in their eastern and western version...
12 has such a massive importance in numerology

True. But personally, I believe that he will have 10 crewmembers, for three main reasons.

First is most important: Luffy outright stated that "around 10" is what he wants:
https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-137b074d45018777c30fe1886b34bcb4-lq

Second, Luffy is shaping up to be new Whitebeard if WB had ambition to become a pirate king, and Blackbeard is clear opposition to Whitebeard and Luffy both. And Whitebeard had ten division commanders.

Third, both Luffy and Blackbeard had been set up as a parallel / opposition not just to Whitebeard, but Shanks as well. Shanks was the one who inspired Luffy to become a pirate, and when he arrived at Marineford there was a direct jutapoxition of his and Blackbeard's crew, setting them up for a future conflict. Shanks has 9 known commanders - but if "Mihawk is a secret Red Haired Pirate" theory is correct (and honestly, even if it is not), it would actually be Shanks + 10 commanders. And I lean towards Mihawk joining them in a conflict against Blackbeard, as otherwise Shiryu would have no opposite number.

Now, it might be that Blackbeard will gain more commanders after conflict with the Red Hair Pirates, but that is unlikely IMO as it would be a rush job. Maybe.

Ivotas

Teach will get 12 Titans eh? Kuzan and Moria say hello.

kingofdon

Hope not there's not enough panel time for the ones we got now, never mind adding more.

laughingwalls

I actually think the crew is full and my rationale comes from the fact people seem to have taken that luffy having 10 members doesn't include himself. If you look at early sketches of straw hat crew presented in SBS and references in One Piece wiki : https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/3/38/Early_Crew_Complete.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20200925174620

You see that Oda always intended luffy + nine. Furthermore, it seems that every crew mate besides robin was fleshed out.

danie

@laughingwalls Their is a version of that sketch were Jinbe is not present so it doesn't really work to use that as "proof" the crew is full.

electricmastro

@danie said in Will Luffy get a 10th Senior Officer?:

@laughingwalls Their is a version of that sketch were Jinbe is not present so it doesn't really work to use that as "proof" the crew is full.

And of course, there’s a grass-headed bandana guy that isn’t part of the crew, so evidently Oda changed his mind on some things and is now keen on 10 people joining Luffy, and might largely be because of Teach’s crew.

Spinx

Nope. Tenth BB captain is Kuzan and Shanks' is Rockstar. No one cares about Rockstar.