I don't see any chapter thread for 1056 yet since everyone prefers to discuss Yamato and Carrot in the nakama thread 
So here we go
Chapter 1056: Cross Guild
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Itâs not explicit nostalgia like the chapters at the end of Alabasta with Vivi being reminiscent of the crew, but I do like how Momo calls Nami, Chopper, and Brook by their nicknames from when they played shogun with him.
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Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what heâs lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?
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Yes it is nice but I won't be too nostalgic of those nickname (except Brook one maybe). I wonder if we will get an explanation for why Luffy didn't say goodbye
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@Gizmo said in Chapter 1056: Cross Guild:
Itâs not explicit nostalgia like the chapters at the end of Alabasta with Vivi being reminiscent of the crew, but I do like how Momo calls Nami, Chopper, and Brook by their nicknames from when they played shogun with him.
And Momo saying Yamato's name as if she's part of the crew even though she's not a Straw Hat:
All in all, it was a nice closure sort of chapter, setting Tama up as a trained ninja who will join Luffy one day, Carrot being given a chance to be a ruler which I'm open to see her potential in despite some saying she's not good enough, and Momo and Hiyori finally getting to see their grandpa. Of course there's also Buggy's Cross Guild, even going so far as to put bounties on marines, which is amusing.
As for Yamato, I get the feeling the next few chapters is what will really start to focus on her fate, after how her focus most presumably delayed until Chapter 1051 because of everything going on in Onigashima and not getting the chance to interact with all the Straw Hats until said chapter. I think it can only get more interesting for her from here onwards.
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Buggy putting bounties on the marines is awesome, I love it!
But where the hell is Marco...
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I have to wonder about Mihawk's and Crocodile's motivation behind joining Buggy... is it about being relevant in the immediate struggle surrounding the One Piece again, or are there ulterior motives at play?
Kid's line about "finding the man with the burn scar" is also an entirely new plot point if I'm not mistaken? Gotta love Oda's post arc game, giving us some juicy tidbits every time hehe
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They need a powerful name and organization to hide behind, Buggy has that kind of kingpin set up going. Make sense that those two would join him
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Wano and the pirate alliance both really are ending, huh? It's truly an era of One Piece wrapping up before our eyes, and what an era it's been. This chapter finally takes us back to the Germa cover story, after close to two months between breaks and colour spreads. I assume Caesar's going to save the siblings, with an outside chance of Pekoms (and slim odds of Pedro if Oda wants to burn even more goodwill surrounding character deaths. Looks like Oda forgot to ink in Katakuri's knee spike also.
This is a pretty chill chapter overall, with a lot of standing around and talking. It definitely feels like a send-off for the Wano group giving Kin the chance to settle down with his wife, letting the leaders of Wano take back their roles as retainers, and wrapping up the Sukiyaki reveal (though it's a bit strange that he was so certain he wouldn't reveal his identity to Momo and Hiyori two chapters ago, just to do it now). I really enjoyed Kin being the only one not to have figured it out, that was hilarious.
Carrot being named the new leader of Zou feels a tad off to me. I can kinda see the in-universe justification - if previously isolated kingdoms like Zou and Wano are going to be making contact with the world in new ways it does make sense to appoint people who've actually experienced travel and dealt with forgeiners to positions of authority, but Carrot is just so young and never really demonstrated any desire to rule or aptitude for leadership, nor was she being groomed for the position. Our other young ruler of recent chapters, Momo, was clearly shown with some training and a desire to live up to the shogunate's legacy before he ascended to the throne. It almost feels like something done to appease the crowd that voted her to the top of the WT100 poll than it does a planned end of her character arc.
That's all assuming she agrees and sticks with it anyway, but there doesn't seem to be time for anything else. Well, I look forward to seeing her leading the minks during the final war.
It's a classic Luffy moment to just not give a shit about Pluton so casually. I still want to see it though. He and I have very different priorities. I wonder if Franky's disappointed to be leaving without seeing in person what those old blueprints could create, but maybe he's just a good enough shipwright that he can visualise it just fine from the documents without having to see anything else.
Shinobu getting de-aged and starting to dress in the same ninja outfit Kin gave Nami instead of her old practical one that Nami had been initially expecting is pretty funny, and I'm a big fan of Tama becoming her apprentice. Great place to leave the character at, and you can just imagine the potential of her ability to enhance her ninja skills on the job.
Going back to Log Poses and actually making the three domes on the New World version relevant is a breath of fresh air after being in Wano so long. I'm a big fan of heavily serialised stories, but even I have to admit I'm pretty excited to have no concrete idea of the next destination (even if there is a pretty narrow shortlist this late in the story). What's curious about this page is the knowledge that Wano isn't even halfway through the New World, if a northward course is still considered a forward movement.
Buggy's new organisation is such a great development. The idea to put bounties on Marines is such a power move, and the presence of Mihawk and Crocodile just raises more and more questions about how this setup came to be. I'm so excited to see more of this group. I wonder if they picked up any of the other former warlords? What really gets me going is that Buggy and Mihawk were both characters from the first year of the series' run. Well, give or take a week for Mihawk, but they've both been around a long time. One was a throwaway, comdic starter villain for the main character, the other was our first preview of the world's strength ceiling. Can you imagine telling someone reading Mihawk's introduction in 1998 that in 24 real-world years that guy would be working for Buggy? Twenty-five years, and these supporting characters from the first year are still relevant.
Kid getting a copy of the Lode Poneglyph is something I certainly didn't expect, alongside the revelation that he got a copy of Big Mom's in his attack on her territory. Man, if Luffy and co had known Big Mom's commanders were just sailing around with copies, they might have saved a bit of trouble getting all the way into her treasury to copy it directly. I wonder how many Poneglyph rubbings have made their way around the world's black markets, and how many fakes there would have to be, considering how hard it would be to certify the real ones. I wonder if Kid was allowed a copy of Zou's Lode Poneglyph too. We didn't see Law make his copy of that one, or have Big Mom's one shared with him but it's a safe bet he's got it. Luffy would be willing to share in the spirit of competition, giving us three captains at 75% of the way to Laugh Tale. How exciting!
The chapter also reminds us of an yet unknown player - Caribou's mysterious contact - and introduces a new one - Kid's burned man, who Law and Robin seem familiar with.
It really does seem like the next chapter is going to be Wano's last. Departures are set, a final emotional goodbye for Momo and Kin are being set up, as is whatever the hell the plan for Yamato is going to be. Next chapter is going to be a damn big one. I'm sure no matter what happens it's going to break a few hearts, but there's just so much to look forward to after those Wano curtains draw closed a final time.
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The way they invoked dynamite minks last will makes me think it's gonna stick
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I knew that Mihawk was the will of the underling. Even zoro tries to cope about it, the one that holds his dream cleans the decks on buggy's ship.
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I am legitimately in love with the idea of Cross Guild and I wish it had happened sooner, assuming Oda's correct in ending in 3-5 years. Whether he is or not, I wonder how much he plans to involve them in the future arcs?
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I love this idea of Cross Guild that Buggy has come up with. It makes him being a Yonko far more palatable than him just failing upwards. It certainly adds a new interesting idea into the mix putting bounties on the Marines.
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What do you guys think Croc has for a bounty?
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Why does Kiku have a left arm even though Kaido slashed her left arm off?
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@electricmastro I'm guessing it's just a mistake. Oda makes them frequently enough and they're usually fixed in the volume release.
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@Shiebs Somewhere in the high hundred millions
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@King-Cannon said in Chapter 1056: Cross Guild:
@Shiebs Somewhere in the high hundred millions
Agreed, if weâre just scaling by other peopleâs bounties and perceived power levels, Robin beat Black Maria whoâs bounty was 480 million, and Jinbei easily handled WHOâs Who, and he had 546 million, Iâd assume Croc is closer to Jinbei than Robin, especially after the time skip, that should bring him around 600 million ish
Granted this is assuming the bounties are purely based off power and not other factors, which they most definitely are (Luffy had a bounty higher than some of the flying six pre timeskip and he was not in there same league) but Iâd still say itâs high 500âs to low 700âs but thatâs purely a guess based on fighting capabilities and not what other factors go into bounties
And the fact that there putting bounties on Marines heads could factor into that
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If he's supposed to be Buggy's third in command, then a billion is what I imagine he'll get at the least.
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@andre said in Chapter 1056: Cross Guild:
If he's supposed to be Buggy's third in command, then a billion is what I imagine he'll get at the least.
True! And if heâs Buggyâs third in command and Zoro dukes it out with Mihawk do you think that means Sir Crocodile will duke it out with Luffyâs third in command Sanji?
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@Shiebs It's an interesting idea. It could happen, but on the surface, it's not something that Oda has foreshadowed or built up. The only real connection we have with the two is Iva-Chan, which could be interesting.
Speaking of, Oda has really dropped the ball concerning the recipes Sanji was supposed to have learned in the Kamabakka kingdom.
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I didnât even think of the Iva thing
Thereâs also the whole Mr. Prince thing too, maybe Croc remembers his voice
It would be cool if Oda showed off more of the recipes, I think weâve only gotten one so far, but Iâm also interested in the techniques he learned while there
Still Iâm now hoping for a Sanji vs Sir Crocodile match up
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@Shiebs said in Chapter 1056: Cross Guild:
Thereâs also the whole Mr. Prince thing too, maybe Croc remembers his voice
that's a great point!!
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@andre Uh Oh! Watch Crocâs presumed secret that he was a woman come true. This info got shared with Sanji during the 2 years training and then Sanji somehow has trouble fighting Croc during the Guild Wars.
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I am really thinking that Croc is the person Caribou wants to tell all of his Ancient Weapon secrets to-- Who else wants them as bad as he does? Would tie us into the Cross Guild naturally with a den den mushi call.
But more over than that, Oda revealed in a sketch what his design was for Mr. 10, if you go back and look at that image-- It looks like Caribou -- Really thinking Caribou was former Baroque Works pre-time skip. Would love a twist like that.
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@Randy1031 said in Chapter 1056: Cross Guild:
I am really thinking that Croc is the person Caribou wants to tell all of his Ancient Weapon secrets to
That would be an interesting turn of events. Croc was always interested in Pluton, so why not fulfill his dream of getting to it.
But I wonder who else might be a candidate for the mysterious person?
Black Beard seams to obvious, Shanks is out to defend his territory but otherwise I'm not sure if he is interested in them.
But who knows maybe its Dragon, my reasoning for this would be Caribou's cover story, where Caribou got confused for a revolutionary and somehow had a change of heart, though I doubt he had any ties to them before.Honestly I'm surprised that Morgan's doesn't know anything about that yet.
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I'm thinking the "certain someone" is Blackbeard mostly because he has the power to release Pluton. And with the Blackbeard Pirates basically being the anti-Straws Hats, they should have a powerful ship to compete against the Thousand Sunny.
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Eh... saying he looks like the concept art for Mr. 10 is pushing it.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/c/ca/Mr._10_Manga_Infobox.png/revision/latest?cb=20130724104526
I don't know what Croc's goals in the New World have been but there's a lot of candidates Caribou could be giving info too. Teach obviously, and I guess Croc as well but also Dragon, Spandam, I even seen suggestions for Morgans, that's not implausible. -
IMO, Caribou will tie to the Revolutionaries. They were already a part of his cover story, and we are set to go back to the group. It's quite exciting for me if they are the next focal point, we would had Kuma and Vivi back, potentially news on Vegapunk, Dragon could finally debut as a character and I wouldn't mind Ivankov back for a second round of One Piece-isms.
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I think it would be nice if wherever we went next included either (or both) of the two remaining Supernovas: Urouge and Bonney.
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Bonney is almost certainly with the Revs.
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That's what I think as well, but who knows?
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I was looking forward for a meeting between Marco and Luffy, maybe Oda will have it in a flashback.
How are law and kid gonna be able to read the poneglyphs?.
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I feel this entire Cross Guild thing is Crocodile's idea.
Like, Buggy was under siege and trying to run away, when Crocodile and whatever forces he built up over the last two years arrive and turn the tide of battle. Later, it's Croc who seeks Mihawk, who also escaped his pursuers, and offers him a deal.
Cross Guild's symbol even looks like Baroque Works'!
So, I think Buggy is a figurehead but is more than happy with this arrangement, while Croc is the real boss with a plan. And they all are probably just waiting the right moment to double "cross" each other.
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I think the bounty idea is all Buggy. Just sounds like something he would come up out of spite for revenge after the WG dissolved the Shichibukai system.
"Oh yea, you want to hunt me now? then I'll hunt YOU!"
Also, I believe Buggy has found John's treasure and that's why he's rich af.
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Placing bounties on the marine is the biggest power move in the entire manga. And I would be over the moon if we had confirmation it truly was Buggy's idea, but I agree it was probably Crocodile.
If it really was Buggy, then, it would be even more amazing to have the biggest show of power come from someone that completely lacks the only kind of power that readers usually see. And actually being the mind behind this and Cross Guild instead of just a figurehead would give total credit to his title as Emperor, as Law said, which would be WAY more interesting and surprising than just repeating the same joke of Buggy failing upwards again (but I am completely biased since I read Buggy Piece).
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@theackwardstation I would not be surprised if the bounties are Buggyâs idea.
What I meant is that I think the idea of the alliance was Crocodileâs, because he needed Buggyâs money and influence. So he offered his power to Buggy and later invited Mihawk.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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@Deicide I didn't mean to rebut you. I don't have an opinion about how Cross Guild was created. Your theory could be proven right, no doubt.
That said, as a sidenote, I don't think Oda is reserving a big role for Crocodile in the future (more like a supporting role for Buggy), whereas I think Buggy will get a fair amount of screentime, so it would be more effective if Buggy were given the credits for the foundation of Cross Guild. Buggy is not strong, but at least he's cunning.
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Sir Crocodile for next Nakama!!!! !
Edit: Damn it how do you do the Ninja smiley faces!
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I'm surprised Weevil isn't a member yet (or is he?), this organization sounds like something his mom would love to have a piece of.
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I was expecting Buggy to have consolidated the forces of the Shichibukai under him to justify his Yonko rank but I was anticipating more members, still, it is cool for him to be seen commanding two of the most iconic Shichibukai members. Was not expecting the twist of issuing bounties on Marines. Will be interesting to see Sakazuki's response.
What I also find curious is how Law and Kid are going to use the Road Poneglyph imprints they have in their possession. Without someone to decipher it how will they find Laugh Tale? At present, Robin is the only character who can read the Poneglyphs. Considering that fact and the relevance of the information Law and Kid has in combination with the Blackbeard Pirates inevitable destination, will Oda introduce additional characters who can read the Ancient Language? It has already been established that the Three-Eyed tribe can awaken their third eye and achieve the âVoice of All thingsâ ability which enables the user to decipher and read the Poneglyph language. Without a doubt, the Three-Eyed tribe are going to become more relevant going forward. The Blackbeard Pirates will definitely âenlistâ the services of an awakened Three-Eyed tribe member. With this development, it would appear to take value away from Robin but rather I feel it increases Robinâs value because of what happened to the Roger Pirates. Roger reached Laugh Tale but his crew were unable to finish what Joy Boy began as they were not equipped with the correct âanswerâ after having all or at least most the information available to them. Robin isnât like anybody else in this world, her whole life has been dedicated to finding the true history and it is within that pursuit that an answer no one else will reach will be arrived at by Robin.
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I'm gonna go against the grain and say that the chapters namesake is actually my least favorite thing about it. For the most part I think this is a pretty good wind-up in terms of teeing up the final farewell. Well, I find the whole Sukiyaki thing very clunky, the Carrot scene is pretty whaaaa??? and the continued kicking of the Caribou can down the plotline road is getting absurd, but I like seeing a repeat of the Kinemon gag, I like Momonosuke scrambling to find the others, and I like the bickering of the 3 Supernova Bros. Individually I have issues with the handling of the various subplots, but theres some surface delights of characterization and humor here, which is fun.
But the whole Cross Guild I just can't care about. For one thing it feels so suddenly inserted, in a chapter that is otherwise all about wrapping up Wano plotline - Kidd suddenly goes "THAT REMINDS ME" and we're launched into an unrelated status update about non-Wano characters. And its again its done in the form of newspaper exposition, a favored exposition vector lately, only beaten out by Marine/Government boardroom bickering in terms of dry efficiency. In the context of the chapter the concepts presentation is not much different than text explaining it in the spoiler summary, like a pre-made wiki entry complete with its own splash-page header image. If we'd actually got a featured scene showing how it operates, showing marines being hunted for bounties that could've been something, but as is this is about as exciting to me as when the newspaper states that Blackbeard and the revolutionaries had a battle offscreen that was for sure huge and important, definetely.
But apart from that, it just doesn't grab me conceptually. It feels like the Left-Over Character Association, a way of quickly rounding up important/high profile characters that are finding themselves outside of a grouping, and placing them together in a new grouping, so they can be more handily deployed in the future. Mostly, I think I'm just long over the hype of seeing newspaper mugshots. I personally find the resolution of the various plotlines of Wano more engaging, and would rather the time be alotted for that as opposed to what amounts to shuffling of game pieces - or maybe allow some time to showcase Law and Kid reacting more to the fact that they've just toppled two emperors; Law especially since it was him who set this whole thing in motion 400 chapters ago, but now that Kaido is down it just feels like "...well, back on the road again, times a wastin." Honestly not much different than post Doffy defeat. -
Obviously the Cross Guild is a way for Oda to mix the leftover characters who don't belong with the Strawhats, the Red-Hairs, the Blackbeards, the WG, or the Revs. and obviously, the problem of "Show don't tell" applies here. But it also feels like a way to give Buggy's status of emperor a bit more meat to it as opposed to just the usual joke of him failing upwards (now it's "oh, shit this guy's got some serious muscle with him" until the reveal he's not as in control as he thinks he is comes around). Plus, it feels less important than the real news that would interest Luffy (and us) ie. what really happened at the Holy Land regarding Vivi and Sabo that Oda is still purposely hiding and saving for after Wano. Given he's wants to finish One Piece in the next few years, I can see why he's rushed through the Cross Guild.
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I don't think we have to see, onscreen, everything relevant that happens in the rest of the world, especially at this point in the story where the world is too big and busy to keep track of it all. The newspaper is the perfect vehicle to keep us updated of world events, and it's fun to see the SHs reacting to stuff just like they learn about them. It also adds some suspense for us to find out later what are the true dynamics behind the news. It's nice to speculate about Cross Guild, for instance.
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I'm pretty sure Mihawk and Crocodile being under Buggy is just a misunderstanding and they are just in an alliance... Still, it is a bit surprising to me that they would ally with each other. I guess it is their best way to stay relevant in rhe story ...
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@danie I'm pretty sure both know Buggy is a poser, and they're just using him as a figurehead to their own ends.
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Sure, but i really doubt they wanted to be seen as Buggy's underlings... I'm really curious what they are up to.
