Here you go, you scoundrels of the sea. 
Chapter 933: A Warrior's Mercy
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Wonder how the Kozuki connections to Komurasaki will play out.
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She is Momos sister it is too obvious.
Which means could be a twist and she isn't.
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The money laundering Mafiaboss/killer dares to speak about laws. I love to hate these characters.
Orochi turned out to be the generic irrational leader. That means for me, Kyoshiros plan to replace him is in full swing.
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Who/what Kyoshiro is loyal to is an interesting topic for sure, but I still don't really see where these "Kyoshiro will/wants to be the new Shogun" theories are coming from.
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PURISSON BU-REAAAAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
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What a nice show between Kyoshiro and Komurasaki. Wonder what Kyoshiro's next move is and what kind of character he really is.
Komurasaki obviously is alive. I wonder if she's actually an ally and not a conniving vixen as she's been portrayed so far.
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I totally forgot about Napoleon, seems like they're knocked out from drowning or something. Once they wake up Big Mom will have a higher chance of getting her memories back.
Was that Kyoshiro holding the Kozuki crest? If so, no wonder he talks shit about the shogun.
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I totally forgot about Napoleon, seems like they're knocked out from drowning or something. Once they wake up Big Mom will have a higher chance of getting her memories back.
Was that Kyoshiro holding the Kozuki crest? If so, no wonder he talks shit about the shogun.
He's holding it, but only because he just picked it up. It's not his, it appears to be Komurasaki's.
Also it's not the crest, but the paper Kinemon's been secretly handing out to people in order to build up the alliance's forces.
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@Miss:
PURISSON BU-REAAAAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
Exactly what I thought reading the chapter
Who/what Kyoshiro is loyal to is an interesting topic for sure, but I still don't really see where these "Kyoshiro will/wants to be the new Shogun" theories are coming from.
Because it would make sense? His Shogun is paranoid about an obscure enemy. He has the position and the opportunity to construct a coup. And he looks like a scheming fox ffs.
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Because it would make sense? His Shogun is paranoid about an obscure enemy. He has the position and the opportunity to construct a coup. And he looks like a scheming fox ffs.
More than anything it comes off as people wanting it to happen because they understandably find him to be a lot cooler than Orochi. Any future revealed scheming on his part doesn't have to automatically mean he wants to become the Shogun.
He insults him behind his back, that's about it so far. You can only go so far with that when he hasn't actually done anything. Also it's weird to assume that Kaido would just accept a random coup. If we at least already knew about Orochi and Kaido's relationship, where it's made clear that Kaido absolutely sees him as being absolutely replaceable, that'd be one thing. But we don't know anything yet, so it's just jumping the gun as far as I'm concerned.
His hand appears to be in a lot of pots so to speak, but he's no Crocodile. The fandom is enamored with him, but in-universe, it's not as if Orochi's men (Or really the people of Wano in general) are going out of their way to praise Kyoshiro in a way that suggests that they'd back a coup.
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Well, I don't think he is cool. He is an immoral, opportunistic asshole, the perfect breed to stage a coup.
Did you see those henchmen of both of them? They'll listen to any authority, "Omg, the 'Kozuki' managed to murder Orochi! I'll take revenge, follow me men!" Coup de etat 101. Kyoshiro just doesn't know that the SHs will ruin it.
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I will make a compilation of my impressions from the other thread and add some more:
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God damn it, the more Komurasaki and Kyoshiro appear, the more I like them. Definitely the best part of Wano so far.
Assuming Komurasaki is Hiyori, Kyoshiro doesn't look old enough to be one of the retainers who didn't traveled in time. I mean, the Charlotte family taught us to not judge age by appearance, but for now I will assume Kyoshiro is around Komurasaki's age, so my pick is that he was a servant boy of the Kozuki who probably Hiyori was friends with and they grew up together scheming Orochi's downfall.
I mean, they are clearly together. We saw they are intimates before and their little exchange this chapter seemed the sort of ambiguous dialogue that hide something (to someone looking, Kyoshiro was asking if Komurasaki was ready to be slayed, dying with the dignity expected of a samurai. But definitely he was making sure she was ready to fake it). Whatever their relationship is, though, his surprise when he got the Kozuki piece of paper means they still hide something from each other. -
Nami went and called Brook and Robin (twice) by their real names. Not only this kinda ruin the fun the SH seemed to have sticking to their fake names, it is also possible they kept doing it to make sure their identities wouldn't be found out in case anyone was eavesdropping. Now she went and called the name of both in front of Hanzo… if he leaks those names to the Beast Pirates, the presence of the SH will become known instantly.
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Shinobu is a delight! Unlike many, I am under the impression pretty Shinobu was not her past self, but rather Hanzo's mental image based on her fame. The fact she was Kin'emon's protegée makes me refuse she is an old lady.
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This chapter introduced a good nuance to Orochi's character. Despite saying he is going to kill Komurasaki, he is genuinely shaken when Kyoshiro "kills" her to the point we can see tears in his eyes. Also, despite how mad he is, he seems to understand Kyoshiro was in the right and doesn't lash out on him.He is definitely a scum villain, no arguing there, but there may be something interesting about him at the end of the day.
I also like his fruit is not a Ryu Ryu, but a Hebi Hebi instead (makes perfect sense too, 八岐大蛇 literally reads as 8-headed giant snake). Curiosity: notice only the main head has a mustache (on top of a crown, but that was obvious). -
Thank god Linlin didn't revert to a child state. She is still acting like an adult, except she is as sweet as hell. "Shake".
Now I wonder if Chopper and Momo will really go alone there with only Kiku as a backup or they will first meet up with the other allies in Kuri (Kin'emon and the minks).
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Weird he seems to be out when Zeus is doing just fine. So what if he is just pretending? Unlike the other two big homies, Napoleon doesn't seem to be able to move and fight on his own, so rather than acting now he could just be biding his time. Remember he can communicate with Prometheus telepathically, so could very well be guiding the BMP to Linlin right now. -
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I want either Zoro or Luffy to make Kyoshiro go berserk by saying how dumb is hair looks.
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So there's a theory and discussion going around that Big Mom's personality was influenced due to her eating Carmel and receiving her Devil Fruit power. I personally disagree with it. There's been this feeling among some people since Big Mom's flashback that her 68 year old self doesn't match her 6 year old self, but I haven't felt that way. I would expect Big Mom to have picked up on the ways of the world as she grew up, and could do so without overriding the base personality she had as a little girl.
You could look at Doffy as an example. The dude acts like a spoiled brat both as a child and adult, but he picked up a conniving and crafty side growing up that allowed him to pursue his desired lifestyle in a different way than in the days of him walking around the street ordering random strangers around. So I don't think there has to be any real explanation for Linlin becoming more of a shrewd businesswoman as an adult. Like Doffy, these new traits have been used to work to fulfill her childhood dream, which was acquired in a normal way - she really looked up to Carmel, and found a lot of common ground in Carmel's dream, albeit because of a skewed interpretation.
This is a trait seen in other works (Up comes to mind) and in real life too - as we grow older, we learn more, and we hopefully become wiser about the world, but we can still hold on to childhood desires, sometimes to an unhealthy level. There's no need for Big Mom to have an evil spirit inside of her to have an unhealthy obsession with a childhood dream. And thus, I don't see any reason that any "reboot" of her mind that happens in this arc cannot solely revolve around her.
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yeah the only point I like in the theory,is that it explains the cannibalism. I really don't like that a devil fruit power can be obtained this way. But in term of story it is a bit to much.
Ok we already have a soul detached from a body with Brook, but it is a bit to irrational to my taste. Also Big Mum becoming an innocent gentle grandma would make her really less interesting as a character.Otherwise the chapter was really good. Nami and Shinobu have become an excellent comic duo. Brook and Robin actions are great. Orochi who doesn't know what to do is also nicely written, with that Kyoshiro move at the end. In that scene I found he really resemble Zoro, both in action and mindset. Will Oda make them fight eachother ? That could certainly be interesting since Kyoshiro has set a gap with the other villains so far.
I'm not a big fan of "the following morning" because it means Sanji fight has been skipped
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Could blacbeard get the snake snake no mi from orochi. Sounds more fitting then any other zoan for him, since he is snake.
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Straight up, I loved this chapter. It's the exact kind of chaos that Oda does best, with so many characters and so much action happening all at once. I wasn't expecting Wano to get this crazy this soon, even if it's just a skirmish before the main event, but damn.
So Orochi's fruit is actually an Orochi model. I really thought Oda would try to avoid that. We've seen really on the nose names relating to a character's powers before, but never anything on this level. That said, I can't believe that even speculating it would be a hydra model, I guessed dino dino instead of snake snake for the fruit type. That said, I love how the eight heads look on the page. They feel like they're constantly in motion, slithering around each other and lashing out about the room. They'd look great animated, but I doubt the anime will be able to spare the budget for the kind of constant motion the art infers.
I really wish Oda had taken the time to show the layout of the Shogun's palace in more detail. It was pretty hard to tell where the stuff with Robin and Brook was taking place relative to the bits with Orochi. Sometimes they seem to be on the outer edge of the same room, sometimes in the adjacent room, and the only shot with both Robin and Orochi makes it look like she's been on a balcony overlooking the floor Orochi was on. I think I got it by the end, but it just didn't read clearly throughout the chapter. And while we're on the topic of things not totally clear, I wasn't sure at a glance if Brook was physically there or just projecting himself, since we'd never seen a full body apparition from him before.
Kyoshiro and Komurasaki was a surprise. It's not really clear if the Koizuki plan card is something Kyoshiro had on him, or something he picked up from Komurasaki's "corpse" (yeah right she's really dead), is it? Really not sure what to make of Kyoshiro's alignment at this point. He certainly didn't seem too invested in a Koizuki Family return back in his intro scene. If he was a sleeper agent, or a protector of Hyori from the start, his whole attitude towards Toki's curse seems out of place. That said, he seems pretty drunk in that scene, which makes his true feelings hard to read…
Nami using Zeus is something I'm happy to see. Actually, between him and the raid suit, the new stuff the crew picked up from Tottoland are all getting used really quickly. Glad they're not gonna go to waste or be saved purely for finishing moves, because they do change up what we can expect from Nami and Sanji in combat going forward in some fun ways.
Big Mom plot is running basically as expected. The idea of a prison break, especially Luffy's reaction, not knowing that she's turned, is pretty hype. Hey, what he he attacks her on sight and knocks her memories back into place with a blow to the head, messing everything up? It's hard to imagine the amnesia plot being over that quickly, but it'd still be a fun idea. Big Mom = Carmel theories are dumb and I have no time for them.
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So, does Orochi literally have no high-ranking vassals besides the moneylender?
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@S.C.:
So, does Orochi literally have no high-ranking vassals besides the moneylender?
Does the Oniwabanshu counts?
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Sanji made the wedding cake. Gerth, her forgotten Childhood friend, joined the Straw Hat alliance (what a coincidence…!) and on top of it all Linlin is a person who respects a debt.
LOL in my mind I read it as "Gerth, her forgotten Childhood friend, joined the Straw Hats" hahahaha thinking you were talking about Nami, since Gerth is another Nami-clone and has the weapon of Nami's original design(or one of her prototype designs).
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I wonder what Kyoshiro was in the past, at the time when Oden was alive. Was he still a mafia boss or what was he? depends on what he was in the past his actions can be explained.
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@Kaido:
So there's a theory and discussion going around that Big Mom's personality was influenced due to her eating Carmel and receiving her Devil Fruit power. I personally disagree with it. There's been this feeling among some people since Big Mom's flashback that her 68 year old self doesn't match her 6 year old self, but I haven't felt that way. I would expect Big Mom to have picked up on the ways of the world as she grew up, and could do so without overriding the base personality she had as a little girl.
I don't know who came up with this theory but it makes zero sense. Especially considering we saw Linlin directly after eating Carmel and she was confused and frightened with no difference in personality. She wandered around the area looking for them until meeting Strussen. It's obvious all of her pirating/crueler behaviors were learned from him.
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@Miss:
I don't know who came up with this theory but it makes zero sense. Especially considering we saw Linlin directly after eating Carmel and she was confused and frightened with no difference in personality. She wandered around the area looking for them until meeting Strussen. It's obvious all of her pirating/crueler behaviors were learned from him.
I'm one of the people who came up with this theory and it makes a lot of sense :). After wether you like it/find it plausible or not it's another story.
About the absence of change of personnality just after having "eaten" Carmel, the way I see it it's more something like Carmel's soul taking control of Linlin's soul little by little. And what helped the full control of the soul is Linlin giving a great part of her soul to create Zeus, Prometheus and Napoleon.
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Why would Carmel's soul want to be a rampaging pirate with the ultimate intent of making a big family for themselves.. like what Linlin always wanted? And Carmel did not.
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Because like a lot of pirates what Carmel wants is wealth and power. And about making a big family even if Carmel's souls has taken control, there must be still a piece of Linllin's soul and big mom's mind is still linlin's.
In short : Big mom's personnality would be a mix of Carmel and Linlin with something like 80% of Carmel's and 20% of Linlin's
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Lol kind of funny Kumarasaki dies the next volume where she's introduced in the cover :ninja:
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One thing I thought was a bit interesting is that the attack Nami performed with Zeus has the same name in Japanese as the attack Big Mom performed on Judge in Chapter 871 which one-shotted him. While I wouldn't expect Orochi to be as messed up from the attack as Judge, it would be funny seeing him hospitalized.
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I'm wondering whats going to happen between Zues, Big Mom and Nami. Zeus it's self fits her fighting style perfectly and she stole it fair and square, hahaha, so I feel certain it'll be a permanent power up. Story wise however at some point Big Mom has to come to her senses and attempt to get it back. Though if coming to her senses means that her memories are restored and she remembers how much she actually loved Lola I have a feeling Big Mom will ultimately give Nami her blessing and allow her to keep Zues.
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@Monkey:
Because like a lot of pirates what Carmel wants is wealth and power. And about making a big family even if Carmel's souls has taken control, there must be still a piece of Linllin's soul and big mom's mind is still linlin's.
In short : Big mom's personnality would be a mix of Carmel and Linlin with something like 80% of Carmel's and 20% of Linlin's
We don't even know that Big Mom is strictly interested in wealth and power. What we know is that as a child she had three loves, Piracy, Mother Carmel, and Food, and that nothing on that front has changed. I don't understand what this new theory clarifies about Big Mom's motivations that we weren't already privy to. Also, wouldn't the last couple of chapters be a strong counter argument against it, seeing as Big Mom's amnesia returns her to what she was like as a child, which implies that her soul isn't tainted, but that she's lived a life that's led her to be the kind of person she is. It's the easiest answer, the most logical, and for me at least, it's more than satisfying.
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I wonder if the marines will intervene with Wano, especially Kizaro. Too many Supernovae assembled in the same island reminded me of Sabaody. Maybe he will be the one cancel out BM when she regains her memories.
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This is the second time I've seen a chapter end rather abruptly and have a bland black title card as the ending instead of the usual one piece logo and the word end. It throws me off because it makes it look like the chapter hasn't ended yet or like the chapter is fake or something for having a different end card so to speak for the end of the chapter
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I guess i never really thought of Caramel being a concious entity in BM. What i envisioned was something more like that the soul cannibalism distorting her genuine personality rather than Caramel outright controlling anything. I honestly think it would be strange if the user of a fruit that could save you never attempted to do so, even sub conciously. Or heck maybe she never even entered BM but rather just scrambled her essence with a half done soul switchero that was interrupted upon her death.
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@Monkey:
Because like a lot of pirates what Carmel wants is wealth and power. And about making a big family even if Carmel's souls has taken control, there must be still a piece of Linllin's soul and big mom's mind is still linlin's.
In short : Big mom's personnality would be a mix of Carmel and Linlin with something like 80% of Carmel's and 20% of Linlin's
Big Mom is pretty open about her villainy, cares very little about actual money(didn't care when she learned she was losing a lot or when Luffy offered her some), and is really into family and amassing power. Carmel was crafty, selfish and was shipping out power for wealth. If she is in there she doesn't do much aside from pushing Big Mom own flaws.
I don't think it's impossible but I'm unsure why Carmel would do it with so little of her left(just to f**k with Linlin or it failed?) or why Oda would do it(he never cared about making the bad guy suddenly be good before).
I imagine we could have some of the kids still alive shipped by cp0 that would have killed Carmel in front of a delighted Big Mom but I don't see Oda using Carmel as a explanation but rather as a lesson.
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I wonder what's up with Napoleon and Zeus. Are both amnesiac or just Napoleon? Or do they their memory but were reverted to 5 years personality making them(Napoleon) play along?
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Big Mom is pretty open about her villainy, cares very little about actual money(didn't care when she learned she was losing a lot or when Luffy offered her some), and is really into family and amassing power. Carmel was crafty, selfish and was shipping out power for wealth. If she is in there she doesn't do much aside from pushing Big Mom own flaws.
I don't think it's impossible but I'm unsure why Carmel would do it with so little of her left(just to f**k with Linlin or it failed?) or why Oda would do it(he never cared about making the bad guy suddenly be good before).
I imagine we could have some of the kids still alive shipped by cp0 that would have killed Carmel in front of a delighted Big Mom but I don't see Oda using Carmel as a explanation but rather as a lesson.
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I wonder what's up with Napoleon and Zeus. Are both amnesiac or just Napoleon? Or do they their memory but were reverted to 5 years personality making them(Napoleon) play along?
I doubt that, Napoleon wasnt around as LinLin was a child. So he basically couldnt have the memories of back then. He was the last homie to be created and it just was made as Big-Mom was well in her 40s already. The whole homie thing is confusing though i will give you that. We just can wait what Oda comes up with lol. Also i hope in next chapter we see at least a little bit of action with LinLin and the others xD
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Kyoshiro and Komurasaki was a surprise. It's not really clear if the Koizuki plan card is something Kyoshiro had on him, or something he picked up from Komurasaki's "corpse" (yeah right she's really dead), is it? Really not sure what to make of Kyoshiro's alignment at this point. He certainly didn't seem too invested in a Koizuki Family return back in his intro scene. If he was a sleeper agent, or a protector of Hyori from the start, his whole attitude towards Toki's curse seems out of place. That said, he seems pretty drunk in that scene, which makes his true feelings hard to read…
My guess: he and Komu weren't transported to the future by toki. And he or maybe both are in disbelief towards Toki's prophecy. They hate Orochi and faked komu's assassination. Once they know the prophecy is true they'll join the alliance.
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It d explain to me the difference in size and body age between Komu and Momo and also Komu and Kyoshiro's weird attitudes. They are in some kind of limbo.
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Theory:
What if komurasaki is hiyori that has the toki toki no mi? Since her mother died she inherits the fruit and she can turn back time for her wounds remember the only ability shown for that fruit is time travel but what if it has time manipulation as well?
Also i think kyoshiro is not an ally, i think he is a backstabbing mafia lord who wants to be shogun yet does not want the kozuki clan revived
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Big Mom is pretty open about her villainy, cares very little about actual money(didn't care when she learned she was losing a lot or when Luffy offered her some), and is really into family and amassing power. Carmel was crafty, selfish and was shipping out power for wealth. If she is in there she doesn't do much aside from pushing Big Mom own flaws.
I don't think it's impossible but I'm unsure why Carmel would do it with so little of her left(just to f**k with Linlin or it failed?) or why Oda would do it(he never cared about making the bad guy suddenly be good before)..
Of course when she learnt that there wouldn't be any sweets from Fishman island at her tea party, she couldn't think of anything else. But later Big Mom said several times that she loves treasure chest and that is why she was ready to go as far as to forgive Luffy about that story.
And if Carmel's is indeed more or less controling Linlin, I think it's more her personnality than Linlin's that made her vicious and cunning (like setting up the Vinsmokes) or making alliances and all to gain power in order to become the king of pirates.
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Please show me Kamazou, Witching Hour Boy or Bone Splitter finally
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BTW speaking of the chapter's name, does Kyoshiro says warrior or samurai? The official translation kept many Japanese terms as they are.
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I'm wondering whats going to happen between Zues, Big Mom and Nami. Zeus it's self fits her fighting style perfectly and she stole it fair and square, hahaha, so I feel certain it'll be a permanent power up. Story wise however at some point Big Mom has to come to her senses and attempt to get it back. Though if coming to her senses means that her memories are restored and she remembers how much she actually loved Lola I have a feeling Big Mom will ultimately give Nami her blessing and allow her to keep Zues.
Remembers that she loved Lola? More like remembers that she hated her after she ran away, and ruined the whole marriage with Loki costing Big Mom's goal to get the giants under her and became Pirate King. Other than that I could still maybe see Big Mom allowing Nami to keep Zeus if Big Mom does become an ally, and I could also maybe see Big Mom promising Nami that she won't go after Lola.
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Remembers that she loved Lola? More like remembers that she hated her after she ran away, and ruined the whole marriage with Loki costing Big Mom's goal to get the giants under her and became Pirate King. Other than that I could still maybe see Big Mom allowing Nami to keep Zeus if Big Mom does become an ally, and I could also maybe see Big Mom promising Nami that she won't go after Lola.
There is something really wrong with all of that. Is it not the least bit suspicious to you how confident Lola was about her mother helping the Straw Hats if they managed to make it to the new world? Then you have Pudding talking about how much of a pain it was going to be to alter everyone's memories after the wedding. There was indication that she was speaking from experience.
I bet you Pudding was to marry Loki and she turned everything around.
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There is something really wrong with all of that. Is it not the least bit suspicious to you how confident Lola was about her mother helping the Straw Hats if they managed to make it to the new world? Then you have Pudding talking about how much of a pain it was going to be to alter everyone's memories after the wedding. There was indication that she was speaking from experience.
I bet you Pudding was to marry Loki and she turned everything around.
Pudding was a kid when Lola ran away…I mean, it COULD be possible but yikes...
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There is something really wrong with all of that. Is it not the least bit suspicious to you how confident Lola was about her mother helping the Straw Hats if they managed to make it to the new world?
Not when Chiffon says that the reason for Lola's confidence was due to how carefree she was in 858. She just really thought her Mom would forgive her over that. Amusingly, we even see this trait replicated in Chiffon herself, in how she foolishly thinks she could convince Big Mom to forgive and spare her for attempting to assasinate her.
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Yeah people forget that little line about Lola.
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There is something really wrong with all of that. Is it not the least bit suspicious to you how confident Lola was about her mother helping the Straw Hats if they managed to make it to the new world? Then you have Pudding talking about how much of a pain it was going to be to alter everyone's memories after the wedding. There was indication that she was speaking from experience.
I bet you Pudding was to marry Loki and she turned everything around.
They probably haven't talk since then and she assumes they are still good.
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@Kaido:
Pudding was a kid when Lola ran away…I mean, it COULD be possible but yikes...
Not when Chiffon says that the reason for Lola's confidence was due to how carefree she was in 858. She just really thought her Mom would forgive her over that. Amusingly, we even see this trait replicated in Chiffon herself, in how she foolishly thinks she could convince Big Mom to forgive and spare her for attempting to assasinate her.
Yeah people forget that little line about Lola.
They probably haven't talk since then and she assumes they are still good.
Oh I remember all that really well and I still don't buy that Lola is just absent minded as Chiffon explains. I don't buy that her and Lola swapped places and when Loki found out all heck broke loose. Lola could be absent minded about the relationship between her and her mother but the Risky Brothers and the rest of the Rolling Pirates? Plus Lola had what seemed to be a vivre that should have been impossible to get. Watch Lola end up being something of a favorite who was granted that privilege. Pudding could have been betrothed at a super young age and promised for later or maybe not at all. What ever the case I'm still betting that Pudding was the center of the failed union between the giants and the Charlottes and she covered it up with mass memory altering and pinned it on Lola.
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Oh I remember all that really well and I still don't buy that Lola is just absent minded as Chiffon explains. I don't buy that her and Lola swapped places and when Loki found out all heck broke loose. Lola could be absent minded about the relationship between her and her mother but the Risky Brothers and the rest of the Rolling Pirates? Plus Lola had what seemed to be a vivre that should have been impossible to get. Watch Lola end up being something of a favorite who was granted that privilege. Pudding could have been betrothed at a super young age and promised for later or maybe not at all. What ever the case I'm still betting that Pudding was the center of the failed union between the giants and the Charlottes and she covered it up with mass memory altering and pinned it on Lola.
A Vivre card can be made from hair, nails..etc I doubt it'd be hard to get for any of BM's daughters without BM noticing if they really wanted to make one. It's just that no one bothers doing it since it is forbidden.
