I mean I could be remembering incorrectly because it's been since I was in HS that I read some of the decades old Spidey stories, but weren't Gwen Stacey and Harry introduced as Peter went to college?
Going to college in the films would be a great way to introduce those characters in a realistic way to explain why they haven't been around.
On the reddit Discord, we were asked to list our top movies during the Summer and I struggled. Couple comic book movies in there and The Departed
25. Spider Man 2 24. Winter Soldier 23. Fight Club 22. Shutter Island 21. Departed
20. Slumdog Millionaire 19. Stranger than Fiction 18. Hateful Eight 17. Reservoir Dogs 16. Phonebooth
15. Law Abiding Citizen 14. Usual suspects 13. Whiplash 12. District 9 11. Eagle Eye
10 Best Man
9 A Time To Kill
8 Civil War
7 Lion King
6 Dark Knight
5 Inception
4 Beautiful mind
3 V for Vendetta
2 Inside Man
1 The Wood
I just want to say that The Wood is freaking amazing! So many black films feel hella niche, regardless of quality.
They milked Looney Tunes for all it's worth, but I did get some serious chuckles.
Yay Iron Man Jr. can continue. Puke
Why the needless hostility?
This is awesome! I wonder what kind of deal they broke?
They probably just agreed to more or less the terms they had already.
Not a shock, of course this was going to work itself out.
We knew it probably would work out, but it's nice to get a confirmation.
Looks like Spidey will get written out in the next MCU film. The 3rd solo Spidey movie was already part of the previous deal so technically it's one extra movie. I definitely see Spidey make his exit there and make appearances in the MCU when or if Sony allows it. I really hope they add more to Holland's character or put Miles from Spidey-verse into the live action. Miles from Spidey-verse is so much better than Peter in the MCU movies. If Sony can translate Mile's style, relationships, culture, hardships, etc. into live action, I'd be so down to shelving Holland's Peter for the time being. Mile's black and red suit, his outfit with the Jordan's and jacket over his suit, his invisibility and electric abilities, his parkour, along with an awesome soundtrack would be AMAZING to see.
Spiderverse already did Miles as good as he can possibly be done. They don't need to drag him into the live action verse until they're ready to kill Peter off. (And SPiderverse already did that story pretty well too.) And they cast Holland young so he could pay the part forever.
Let Miles shine as his own lead in the animated ones, as opposed to just being the eventual replacement in the movies.
Spiderverse already did Miles as good as he can possibly be done. They don't need to drag him into the live action verse until they're ready to kill Peter off. (And SPiderverse already did that story pretty well too.) And they cast Holland young so he could pay the part forever. Let Miles shine as his own lead in the animated ones, as opposed to just being the eventual replacement in the movies.
This is hilarious to me since he was the oldest in the crop of candidates and still looks like a teenager at 23. He isn't going to look much older than he does now for a long time, which will be pretty funny for whenever they decide he should be an adult in the story. I just imagine him being like Martin Freeman in the british Office as a 35 year old spidey and chuckle.
Spiderverse already did Miles as good as he can possibly be done. They don't need to drag him into the live action verse until they're ready to kill Peter off. (And SPiderverse already did that story pretty well too.) And they cast Holland young so he could pay the part forever.
Let Miles shine as his own lead in the animated ones, as opposed to just being the eventual replacement in the movies.
They wouldn’t need to replace Peter. Spider-Verse literally shows us Miles can be on his own or with other Spider people like Peter Parker. I’d love to see other versions of Spidey in live-action.
Most people pay more attention to live action. Miles would shine brighter if they brought him over while still doing the animated stuff. And technically, Miles is a replacement Spider-Man.
Ocean Guide
"The ocean sees the beginning of the world,
and the ocean knows the end of the world.
Thus, it calls us towards the way we must take.
Thus, it leads us towards a proper world."
This is hilarious to me since he was the oldest in the crop of candidates and still looks like a teenager at 23. He isn't going to look much older than he does now for a long time, which will be pretty funny for whenever they decide he should be an adult in the story. I just imagine him being like Martin Freeman in the british Office as a 35 year old spidey and chuckle.
Hair and makeup. They can make the same actor look ten years older or ten years younger no problem.
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They wouldn’t need to replace Peter. Spider-Verse literally shows us Miles can be on his own or with other Spider people like Peter Parker.
Live action is never going to dilute the Spider-pool and have him be less unique. Comics and a crazy animated thing can get away with having multiples, but the live action is going to want to keep its focus and marketing on one guy… not to mention paying an actor top billing,until its time for that guy to leave.
Live action is never going to dilute the Spider-pool and have him be less unique. Comics and a crazy animated thing can get away with having multiples, but the live action is going to want to keep its focus and marketing on one guy… not to mention paying an actor top billing,until its time for that guy to leave.
IF there is something that makes MCU Peter less unique than Miles, it's because he is less unique than Miles from Spidey-verse. Sony has already established Spidey-Verse to contain other parallel universes which makes it easier to bring other Spidey's into live-action and other mediums without the movies conflicting with each other unless Sony wants universes to do a crossover. Spidey-Verse style movies is our best shot of having multiple versions of Spidey to a much bigger audience. And because that style exists, MCU Peter can still exist as a separate entity while bringing other great and better characters into the live-action. I'd love it if they brought PS4 Peter into the mix as well since he's a much better Peter Parker than Holland's version and he exists in the Spidey-Verse! And the great thing about the Spidey-Verse is that it's able to show and explore more mature content such as killing off Peter Parker, the struggles of another Peter Parker as an adult, and killing off AUNT MAY in the game. At the very least, I would love if Sony explored other aspects of Spidey's universe(s) in the live-action where most people have their attention. It's a sad reality when the best version of Spidey in film made less money than the worse Spidey movie.
I'm perfectly fine with the idea of them not making another Spider-Verse anything. With the fact there's three different versions unless I've ignored any others.
I'm perfectly fine with the idea of them not making another Spider-Verse anything. With the fact there's three different versions unless I've ignored any others.
And thats a shame. PS4 Peter and Spidey-Verse Miles are miles better than MCU Spidey. I hope eventually Sony realizes the potential of Spidey's universe from Spidey-Verse and take risks like they did with Spidey-Verse.
God damn he's just so perfect.
So is JJJ the Alex Jones of the Marvel world? Or is Alex Jones the JJJ of our world?
…I'm sorry, that was uncalled for. JJJ is way cooler than Alex Jones.
I love this so much. I think it was the only right choice to bring him back this way. Only wish they'd kept the hairstyle!
SPIDER-MAN is POISONING the local WATER SUPPLY, and turning all the FROGS GAY
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SPIDER-MAN is POISONING the local WATER SUPPLY, and turning all the FROGS GAY
Spider-Man says Trans Rights!
So, given the next two films are going to be prequels in the MCU timeline, anyone think the studio might be trying to slow things down so that the five-year gap in Endgame is not so significant and the films that take place in the present era will be closer to our years? I mean, it'll only dial the MCU to real-world time gap down by a year, maybe a year and a half, but does it seem like they're trying to do that or is it a coincidence?
Also also, the Raimi spiderman films are iconic and beloved and that Goblin and that Doc Ock are well loved. Obviously they need to come around again eventually in some franchise, but they don't demand repeating.
Just wanted to say that PS4 ock has probably replaced raimi's and that it's entirely possible if the writing and characterization is there.
Which seems to be a thing for the MCU Spidey villains seeing how Vulture and Mysterio has more character than well..
Uhhhh
Huh. I'm not even sure what I'm comparing them with because other than Brock, Raimi films had great villain characterization.
Oh right there's amazing. None of them holds a candle and is probably the worst.
But yes my point is that I hope to be able to live to see a Green Goblin done right on the big screen before I die.
Along with Harry and Peter storyline done right too because did I hated how Raimi did it.
Seriously though , I want a good green goblin and Norman Osbourne.
So what crawled up Martin Scorsese's ass? Seriously I love his films but saying that super hero movies aren't real films just because it's not your cup of Tea is really ridiculous
Just wanted to say that PS4 ock has probably replaced raimi's and that it's entirely possible if the writing and characterization is there.
Which seems to be a thing for the MCU Spidey villains seeing how Vulture and Mysterio has more character than well..
Uhhhh
Huh. I'm not even sure what I'm comparing them with because other than Brock, Raimi films had great villain characterization.
Oh right there's amazing. None of them holds a candle and is probably the worst.But yes my point is that I hope to be able to live to see a Green Goblin done right on the big screen before I die.
Along with Harry and Peter storyline done right too because did I hated how Raimi did it.
Seriously though , I want a good green goblin and Norman Osbourne.
I kind of want to see Norman Osborn headlining a Thunderbolts movie. If it does well then it can delve into his first becoming the Green Goblin and his downfall that leads him to becoming the leader of a Marvel brand Suicide Squad. And also a separate roster for the Sinister Six.
So what crawled up Martin Scorsese's ass? Seriously I love his films but saying that super hero movies aren't real films just because it's not your cup of Tea is really ridiculous
Jason Statham's also kind of in that boat. He's said he doesn't want to play in a superhero movie because 'anyone can be super' in them without having to work hard or do their own stunts or whatever.
Jason Statham's also kind of in that boat. He's said he doesn't want to play in a superhero movie because 'anyone can be super' in them without having to work hard or do their own stunts or whatever.
That one is even more surprising :blink: Like I don't agree with Martin Scorsese opinion here but I can understand why he thinks that based off the type of films he makes, but Super Hero movies seem like they would be right up Jason Statham's alley
That one is even more surprising :blink: Like I don't agree with Martin Scorsese opinion here but I can understand why he thinks that based off the type of films he makes, but Super Hero movies seem like they would be right up Jason Statham's alley
I wonder who sounds more stuck-up for their opinions, Scorcese or Statham. Not that I'm a Statham fan anyway so it's no big loss IMO not having him in any upcoming DC or Marvel or other projects based on superheroes.
I wonder who sounds more stuck-up for their opinions, Scorcese or Statham. Not that I'm a Statham fan anyway so it's no big loss IMO not having him in any upcoming DC or Marvel or other projects based on superheroes.
lol both seem petty to me, at the very least though Scorsese has made some of the greatest movies of all time that are both critically acclaimed and commercially successful and has won (or at least been nominated) for awards, the same can't be said for Statham who's movies and characters are all pretty similar (although I do actually like the actor)
Seriously though , I want a good green goblin and Norman Osbourne.
I actually really liked Willem Dafoe as Norman Osbourne, the problem was Green Goblin looked . . . . not that great. A good costume and a little tweaking here and there, and Dafoe would have been the perfect Green Goblin.
Jason Statham's also kind of in that boat. He's said he doesn't want to play in a superhero movie because 'anyone can be super' in them without having to work hard or do their own stunts or whatever.
Everybody can't look cool doing hi dives or dancing oddly
that F&F money got him acting brand new.
I actually really liked Willem Dafoe as Norman Osbourne, the problem was Green Goblin looked . . . . not that great. A good costume and a little tweaking here and there, and Dafoe would have been the perfect Green Goblin.
If it were up to me, I'd have given Willem Dafoe the rubber mask from the comics, only it would be done like Batman's cowl where he still has his actual mouth exposed and just use face paint to make the rest of his face match the mask. I think Dafoe could have benefited from letting us see his actual verbalized taunts and that creepy, wicked smile, but let his crazy eyes hide behind those yellow eye holes. They kind of went too minimalist with the Dane Dehaan version of Harry's Goblin, though, not quite making him the monstrous Ultimate Comics version of the Osborns when they're in Goblin form, which was kind of pointless, really. We did get to see that one, though, in Into the Spider-Verse. So if we get to see a proper Green Goblin, I think my original idea for the Goblin's mask would be the best way to portray it rather than a completely fixed mask like the one from the Raimi movie.
BTW, anyone have any idea who's supposed to be playing Taskmaster in Black Widow yet? I think I read that back when they were planning on having him in that cancelled show Most Wanted, he was going to be played by Oded Fehr from the Mummy and Resident Evil movies.
As the superhero film industry gets more saturated..The only ones worthy will be those who are able to portray Oscar worthy inner turmoils of the superhero.
Not that it currently is bad but come on, Martin Scorsese is right to a certain extent.
I like RaiMi goblin for giving me nightmares as a kid.
It was a fine green goblin but nothing too impressive.
Memorable enough partially because the costume was so weird and he spoke like my grandma.
Oh and being the first villain in the first superhero movie that took the world by storm? Yeah.
Now what I want is a Norman/Harry descend to chaos and the dark side of Science taken too far.
People tend to mistake Goblin for Joker because batshit minds but no, the Green Goblin is a far more complicated character that is the condensation of rage, genius and unadulterated malice to ruin spider man life.
That. That is the Green Goblin I want.
As the superhero film industry gets more saturated..The only ones worthy will be those who are able to portray Oscar worthy inner turmoils of the superhero.
Not that it currently is bad but come on, Martin Scorsese is right to a certain extent.I like RaiMi goblin for giving me nightmares as a kid.
It was a fine green goblin but nothing too impressive.
Memorable enough partially because the costume was so weird and he spoke like my grandma.
Oh and being the first villain in the first superhero movie that took the world by storm? Yeah.Now what I want is a Norman/Harry descend to chaos and the dark side of Science taken too far.
People tend to mistake Goblin for Joker because batshit minds but no, the Green Goblin is a far more complicated character that is the condensation of rage, genius and unadulterated malice to ruin spider man life.
That. That is the Green Goblin I want.
One whose obsession with revenge and hatred for Spider-Man that he sets everything up he can to ensure that his son Harry, even at the cost of his own life, will continue the vendetta even after Norman breathes his last. That way we at least feel for Harry, it's been hard to do that in the last two portrayals.
Regarding Martin Scorsese, just watch the first 50 seconds
Ryan is now teasing us via Deadpool by just showing up at Marvel:
https://www.narcity.com/entertainment/ca/ryan-reynolds-deadpool-marvel-appearance-may-be-happening-sooner-than-we-thought?fbclid=IwAR0X4ikih8lKHWCFmnJW3aeeQ2nEacIxYqGGp_ZGPlfIQEmxn5gXADYWa4Q
Not extremely suprising, but I'm very stocked about this, experiencing SpiderVerse on the big screen was such a visual feast and I can't wait to relive that experience.
Interested to see if it'll be a direct sequel or use different characters this time.
There are also the individual spin offs for Spider Gwen and company that I remember them talking about, wondering if this is related in any way.
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It'll be a darn long wait until 2022, but it's understandable considering the amount of unique animation techniques and attention to detail that this movie will have to pack.
Let's hope it doesn't suffer sequelitis and have a significant drop in quality.
Let's hope it doesn't suffer sequelitis and have a significant drop in quality.
Track record for Superhero movies tends to be the second one doesn't have to deal with the origin and can hit the ground running and is the best one, then the third is the rough one, because the studio demands too much stuff be crammed in.
Exceptions do apply like Thor where the second one was super forgettable third one was by far the best, and Iron Man… in both cases they had NO idea what they were doing and were sort of spinning their wheels till the next Avengers film.
Track record for Superhero movies tends to be the second one doesn't have to deal with the origin and can hit the ground running and is the best one, then the third is the rough one, because the studio demands too much stuff be crammed in.
Exceptions do apply like Thor where the second one was super forgettable third one was by far the best, and Iron Man… in both cases they had NO idea what they were doing and were sort of spinning their wheels till the next Avengers film.
While I don't agree about Thor: The Dark World, I was definitely thinking about the Iron Man trilogy as the ideal example of things being ass-backwards.
