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    • Miss Saturday
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      @Jabra:

      I simply assumed Oda has to barf the big reveals allover the floor now, with so little time and so many stories left to tell. But I like your take. It's too awfully convenient for my taste to praise it, but it seems likely that this was his idea.

      Oh he most certainly HAS to barf out these big plot reveals and advancements now. That's what I'm saying, he can no longer have little self-contained arcs like Alabasta or Thriller Bark anymore; he has no choice. He's just gonna have to be creative and think on his feet, like these 4th wall breaking "breaks."

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      I was wrong, looks like Big Mom is going to show up!!! this is awesome

      Party don't start till Mama get here.
      Hopefully she'll show up before the arc ends and will interact with Kaido. I think they will.

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        Personally I would prefer that. Oda says bounties ≠ powerlevels, which I agree with, but it does give us a clue of where Luffy should be at; I think saying he's 3/4th the way to a yonkou status isn't too absurd. So the rest of the crew should be there in terms of comparable yonkou crew mates. To that end Sanji + Zoro needs to be at the level of Queen/King soon (or now if Oda plans on Luffy beating Kaido)

        The problem with that happening in the current arc, is that there are too many heavy hitters in Luffy’s Alliance and potential allies. Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Law, Shutenmaru, Kiku, Inuarashi, and Nekomamushi. (for the future we could also add in Kid, Hawkins, and Drake.)

        This is not like WCI where Urouge could take down Snack and Luffy/Nami could take down Cracker, yet BM pirates (excluding Big Mom herself) still have enough firepower to easily overwhelm the Firetank/Fishmen/Germa/SH Alliance with relative ease. Currently in Wano arc, if King and Queen went down there would be nobody holding the Beast Pirates up except Kaido himself. To see it from the arc antagonists perspective, as of now King and Queen really cannot afford to go down that easily.

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          The problem with that happening in the current arc, is that there are too many heavy hitters in Luffy’s Alliance and potential allies. Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Law, Shutenmaru, Kiku, Inuarashi, and Nekomamushi. (for the future we could also add in Kid, Hawkins, and Drake.)

          This is not like WCI where Urouge could take down Snack and Luffy/Nami could take down Cracker, yet BM pirates (excluding Big Mom herself) still have enough firepower to easily overwhelm the Firetank/Fishmen/Germa/SH Alliance with relative ease. Currently in Wano arc, if King and Queen went down there would be nobody holding the Beast Pirates up except Kaido himself. To see it from the arc antagonists perspective, as of now King and Queen really cannot afford to go down that easily.

          We haven't seen Kaido's full crew yet, there is just no way that the next strongest after Jack is someone like Holdem, who doesn't even have a real devil fruit. We have only seen one guy(Kyoshiro) from Orochi's side so far. Also we don't know yet who exactly will fight Kaido himself.

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            @Tarek:

            We haven't seen Kaido's full crew yet, there is just no way that the next strongest after Jack is someone like Holdem, who doesn't even have a real devil fruit. We have only seen one guy(Kyoshiro) from Orochi's side so far. Also we don't know yet who exactly will fight Kaido himself.

            Orochi's right hand men & personal guards have to pack a punch/sword just for all the hype that was build up for the Wano samurais. If a fat outlaw can be on par with Jack, i really imagine that Orochi's samurais are quite impressive.

            Also yeah, we still have Apoo that we can't be sure he will take Luffy's side straight away, Killer (although after Kidd's release he will get on board), X drake, Scotch (that took down X Drake iirc) & probably each of of King and Queen have their own "Holdem" that could prove to be much stronger that the PelvisLion himself.

            Luffy vs Katakuri Full fight: https://www.docdroid.net/qrFOY9p/luffyxkata.pdf

            Luffy vs Cracker Full fight : https://www.docdroid.net/Pk06JZL/luffy-vs-cracker.pdf

            Luffy vs Doflamingo Full fight : https://www.docdroid.net/VDl3Ctf/luffyxdoffy.pdf

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              @choperman:

              I was wrong, looks like Big Mom is going to show up!!! this is awesome

              Why do you trust the media more than Mamas own words?

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                Judging from the Nine tails fruit, Kaido's fruit is most likely Snake Snake mythical model: Dragon.

                King seems to be some firebird, I think the fire in the background is from his tail or the back of his head.

                Zoro vs. Caesar

                Don Noflamingo vs. Robowarden

                Luffy vs Akainu (fan made manga)

                The Birth of Frank aka FFotSDMDBeB: First fist of the Sea, DonMarimo DoBuggino exploring Bonesbeard.

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                  @Jabra:

                  I simply assumed Oda has to barf the big reveals allover the floor now, with so little time and so many stories left to tell. But I like your take. It's too awfully convenient for my taste to praise it, but it seems likely that this was his idea.

                  I'm sorry, I'm a little out of the loop here. Why does Oda have little time to tell his stories? Is there some kind of deadline that I'm not aware of?

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                    Interesting

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                    as stated alot already, much credit for this post.
                    thanks for making us aware

                    this is a really cunning information, i'd like to believe that oda used it

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                      @RecklessSoldier:

                      I'm sorry, I'm a little out of the loop here. Why does Oda have little time to tell his stories? Is there some kind of deadline that I'm not aware of?

                      I agree with your question. I think we're still underestimating One Piece's possible length. I mean, Reverie and Wano probably won't be finished until 1050 and than we still have Elbaf, Raftel and Final War.

                      Carrot's still never gonna join the crew. ![](images/smilies/ipb/wink.png "Wink")

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                        So well Kinemon won't have the Kyuubi fruit… So maybe it will be Tanuki after all

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                          Kinemon is already confirmed as a Paramecia Clothing Maker.

                          https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/one-piece-2/en/0/921/page/8

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                            Kinemon is already confirmed as a Paramecia Clothing Maker.

                            https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/one-piece-2/en/0/921/page/8

                            Ok thanks so another "just for plot" fruit

                            And about Queen…

                            Seeing Sanji's track record and that Oda isn't giving a shit besides Luffy and his new supernova friends...

                            Nope do not think so... But for sure I would be glad if he would

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                              @RecklessSoldier:

                              I'm sorry, I'm a little out of the loop here. Why does Oda have little time to tell his stories? Is there some kind of deadline that I'm not aware of?

                              Some people have been making the argument that since the series is seemingly headed into "End Game" territory (Luffy clashing with Emperors being the last big hurdle before reaching Raftel and dealing with the WG), that Oda is therefore in a position where he needs to be "wrapping up" long standing plot points fairly briskly, rather than leaving them hanging unresolved and/or weaving in new ones, simply due to there not being "enough" story left to go.

                              As an example, several in the Next Nakama thread are treating Wano as a point of no return, under the presumption that anyone who could even conceivably join after Wano wouldn't have long enough to really become part of the team before the series wraps up.

                              Not that I agree with any of that, necessarily…

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                                @otakufan:

                                As an example, several in the Next Nakama thread are treating Wano as a point of no return, under the presumption that anyone who could even conceivably join after Wano wouldn't have long enough to really become part of the team before the series wraps up.

                                Not that I agree with any of that, necessarily…

                                Wouldn't it be at least good if all crewmembers were assembled BEFORE Raftel? I mean, the journey over the Grand Line ends there. Shouldn't any new crewmembers at least have done some part of the journey?

                                When this ends, we're probably be long past Chapter 1000. So time/possibilities really ARE limited I would say.

                                Carrot's still never gonna join the crew. ![](images/smilies/ipb/wink.png "Wink")

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                                  @RecklessSoldier:

                                  I'm sorry, I'm a little out of the loop here. Why does Oda have little time to tell his stories? Is there some kind of deadline that I'm not aware of?

                                  @Big:

                                  I agree with your question. I think we're still underestimating One Piece's possible length. I mean, Reverie and Wano probably won't be finished until 1050 and than we still have Elbaf, Raftel and Final War.

                                  Otakufan already answered for me, pretty much. It's not that One Piece is ending anytime soon, but there are simply too many minor plot points left that Oda has/wants to address at some point, but so little paneltime to execute them organically.

                                  Take Moriah for example. He was anticipated for a long time now, but instead of his own mini-arc (think Whiskey Peak length), Oda just barfed him into this chapter. For me, personally, it works. I don't think it's very sophisticated, but I understand that there are other things waiting in the pipe that deserve the panels more. Where Oda needs to make broad strokes, not fiddle about at the edges.

                                  As for the Wano battles, I only expect Zoro to fight one of the Calamities. Doesn't have to be Firehead Shiryu, but one of those three. Or alternativly Orochi. It seems pretty clear that Oda wants Wano to be the "Oompf-Zoro!!!!" arc, after writing him out of the story for so long now.
                                  Not sure about the other Straw Hats, the competition for big guys is really strong. I expect Kid to snatch at least one top commander, and the Sulong Mings another.

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                                    @Big:

                                    Wouldn't it be at least good if all crewmembers were assembled BEFORE Raftel? I mean, the journey over the Grand Line ends there. Shouldn't any new crewmembers at least have done some part of the journey?

                                    When this ends, we're probably be long past Chapter 1000. So time/possibilities really ARE limited I would say.

                                    Before Raftel? Yes.

                                    Thing is, I don't see Wano dovetailing directly into Raftel. We know we're going to see Elbaf, at the very least, and while I don't pretend to know how the rest of the series will shake out, I suspect that there will be a few other arcs (even if smaller in scope than Wano). We're eventually going to encounter Vegapunk, we still don't know where the last Road Poneglyph is, and there's a possibility that Luffy will want to visit Ace/Whitebeard's graves (if only to stop Weevil from destroying them). While Shanks and Blackbeard could be save for Raftel (or afterward), I feel like Blackbeard in particular needs a skirmish or two before the final clash. There's still a lot that needs to happen, and while Oda's been crafting big, complex arcs with lots of moving parts of late, I don't know that all of what needs to happen can do so in just one or two.

                                    We are heading into the end game, I agree. Time and possibilities are limited. I simply think those limitations are being exaggerated, somewhat.

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                                      @otakufan:

                                      Before Raftel? Yes.

                                      Thing is, I don't see Wano dovetailing directly into Raftel. We know we're going to see Elbaf, at the very least, and while I don't pretend to know how the rest of the series will shake out, I suspect that there will be a few other arcs (even if smaller in scope than Wano).

                                      I honestly think we will only see Elbaf after Wano and before Raftel. And maybe some chapters devoted to figuring out the island the Road Poneglyphs point to and tying together the way to Raftel.

                                      Look at it by way of how many chapters this thing will last. There are reasons to believe that Wano will be more than 100 chapters plus the ending of the Reverie and all that stuff. I think there's a strong possibility that Wano/Reverie will be done at about 1040/1050. Than we have Elbaf. I mean, how long should Oda do this? It's a location the crew has to visit, so ~20 chapters at least, though more likely about 45/50, the length of Punk Hazard. Then we would be almost at 1100. Raftel and the Final War not considered into it. Keep in mind that when Oda had his first assumption regarding One Piece's length, he thought 1 Year east Blue, 3 years journey, 1 year Final War. Even in his most primitive state of the author's planning, he thought the Final War to be one fifth of the entire series. So I think 200 chapters seems legit for the Final War. And we have Raftel, which you can bet on a long True History flashback, some discovery and so on, so assume at least 50 chapters for this too.

                                      In a nutshell, I think Oda has so much to do that he has a vested interst of not expanding the New World much forther. We already have a great To-Do-list.

                                      Do I have a tunnel vision? Maybe. But I think given the authors habit regarding arc lengths and so on it's a reasonable estimation of how things will unfold and that simply leaves not much time. Oda literally has a great To-Do-list.

                                      We're eventually going to encounter Vegapunk

                                      He can be introduced at the Reverie.

                                      we still don't know where the last Road Poneglyph is,

                                      How about Elbaf? Seriously, Oda seems to like to create situations now, in which many plot points can be wrapped up pretty quickly, so why not "conveniently" having the last one appear where? Maybe with some adventure tied in to recover him.

                                      and there's a possibility that Luffy will want to visit Ace/Whitebeard's graves

                                      Can be done in one chapter. regarding Weevil, whatever Oda has in store for him, Marco and the others will play a role in it.

                                      While Shanks and Blackbeard could be save for Raftel (or afterward), I feel like Blackbeard in particular needs a skirmish or two before the final clash.

                                      How about crashing the Reverie? How about destroying Giant Tree at Elbaf? How about killing freakin' Shanks while our heroes go to Raftel?

                                      There you have it. All can be displayed without any other arcs.

                                      There's still a lot that needs to happen, and while Oda's been crafting big, complex arcs with lots of moving parts of late, I don't know that all of what needs to happen can do so in just one or two.

                                      Since the New World, Oda generally seems to go the route of "Less arcs, but longer and with more resloving plot points". It seems to be a noticably different Modus Operandi than in Paradise (where we had 16 (!!) arcs before the time skip).

                                      Carrot's still never gonna join the crew. ![](images/smilies/ipb/wink.png "Wink")

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                                        @Kishido:

                                        Ok thanks so another "just for plot" fruit

                                        And about Queen…

                                        Seeing Sanji's track record and that Oda isn't giving a shit besides Luffy and his new supernova friends...

                                        Nope do not think so... But for sure I would be glad if he would

                                        i have a good feeling that oda will show us some go' ol sanji battle power,
                                        he has to proove us that he is still part of the monster trio

                                        don't give up hope ^^

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                                          i got a good feeling that oda will show us some go' ol sanji battle power,
                                          he has to proove us that he is still part of the monster trio

                                          don't give up hope ^^

                                          But in general, Oda's handling of the various crewmembers getting into fights and all that has been awful since the timeskip.

                                          We once had all the Alabasta fights and Robin vs. Yama, for example. Unbelievable how fare we got… :getlost:

                                          Carrot's still never gonna join the crew. ![](images/smilies/ipb/wink.png "Wink")

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                                            @Kaizoku_Ou:

                                            Judging from the Nine tails fruit, Kaido's fruit is most likely Snake Snake mythical model: Dragon.

                                            King seems to be some firebird, I think the fire in the background is from his tail or the back of his head.

                                            Its pokemon pokemon no mi model charmander

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                                              A very interesting and welcome choice that we didn't see any Strawhats at all in this chapter. But if Raizo is in charge of freeing Luffy, I guess the others (except for Zoro) are involved in this plan.

                                              Obviously, this second act will be longer than the first. So the first was about 15 chapters. It could very well be that this act may be twice that length.

                                              There is a general sense in here that we don't know where things are going and this chapter didn't even give us a clue about what the other crewmembers are doing. I like that.

                                              Carrot's still never gonna join the crew. ![](images/smilies/ipb/wink.png "Wink")

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                                                i have a good feeling that oda will show us some go' ol sanji battle power,
                                                he has to proove us that he is still part of the monster trio

                                                don't give up hope ^^

                                                Salutare, tot un Vlad aici 😄

                                                Luffy vs Katakuri Full fight: https://www.docdroid.net/qrFOY9p/luffyxkata.pdf

                                                Luffy vs Cracker Full fight : https://www.docdroid.net/Pk06JZL/luffy-vs-cracker.pdf

                                                Luffy vs Doflamingo Full fight : https://www.docdroid.net/VDl3Ctf/luffyxdoffy.pdf

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                                                  Don't know what the One Piece is, but I want that what BB has. Being the most pirate looking Pirateking of the most piratey Pirate Island possible. He even has his own Smee!

                                                  “As I stand out here in the wonders of the unknown at Hadley, I sort of realize there’s a fundamental truth to our nature: Man must explore!” – David Scott, Moon

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                                                    Salutare, tot un Vlad aici 😄

                                                    salutare

                                                    can't understand romanian tho, pal 😄

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                                                      Btw shouldn't Whitebeard have known where the last Porneglyph is? Otherwise it's hard to support his claim to be closest to One Piece since Roger.

                                                      "You either die a villain, or live long enough to see yourself become the hero." - Vegeta, Hero Slayer Garou, most MLP villains etc.

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                                                        Any Shiyru theories that get messed with is a good thing in my book.

                                                        Definitely the best part of this chapter. So many people thought and still think they know so much stuff. Oda's gonna Oda.

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                                                          Btw shouldn't Whitebeard have known where the last Porneglyph is? Otherwise it's hard to support his claim to be closest to One Piece since Roger.

                                                          Maybe, maybe not. He made it clear to Roger he wasn't interested in Raftel.
                                                          My bet is Shanks knows or its on Elbaf.

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                                                            @otakufan:

                                                            As an example, several in the Next Nakama thread are treating Wano as a point of no return, under the presumption that anyone who could even conceivably join after Wano wouldn't have long enough to really become part of the team before the series wraps up.

                                                            Not that I agree with any of that, necessarily…

                                                            Well, it's more that the idea of someone joining after a Yonko (maybe even two) is defeated would definitely give off a superfluous vibe, regardless of how many arcs are left. While members have missed out on milestones and important moments, I can't really blame people for believing that the defeat of a Yonko ranks pretty damn high. Even Jinbe's going to be here. But in the end, you are right that people are adhering to a deadline that Oda doesn't have to follow at all.

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                                                            Definitely the best part of this chapter. So many people thought and still think they know so much stuff. Oda's gonna Oda.

                                                            Haha, exactly.

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                                                              Moria is going to Wano next, hopefully we'll see him again before june 2019, He'll be the one that kills Kaido, ultimately.

                                                              Can somebody point me to a chapter/page wherein Moria is acting cowardly? I have never seen cowardly Moria before, I did see PTSD Moria.
                                                              He was proclaiming that a pirate shouldn't fear death.

                                                              I wish Oda had shown Moria's friendly personality towards his current crew more.

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                                                              Moria the Great…

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                                                                A very interesting and welcome choice that we didn't see any Strawhats at all in this chapter. But if Raizo is in charge of freeing Luffy, I guess the others (except for Zoro) are involved in this plan.

                                                                Obviously, this second act will be longer than the first. So the first was about 15 chapters. It could very well be that this act may be twice that length.

                                                                There is a general sense in here that we don't know where things are going and this chapter didn't even give us a clue about what the other crewmembers are doing. I like that.

                                                                We did see Chopper, though.

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                                                                  I suppose the Strawhats are doing their assigned missions (chap. 921)…?

                                                                  I wonder who is going to rescue Luffy alongside Raizou.

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                                                                    I suppose the Strawhats are doing their assigned missions (chap. 921)…?

                                                                    I wonder who is going to rescue Luffy alongside Raizou.

                                                                    After WCI, Sanji better volunteer.

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                                                                      After WCI, Sanji better volunteer.

                                                                      While there is a good point in your reasoning to have Sanji repaying his "debt", on the other hand this is also a good opportunity to use supporting characters that otherwise wouldn't do anything in the arc (like Raizou).

                                                                      Sanji will probably get his moments in Wano, arguably a major fight and hopefully something else too. He doesn't need to be used now to rescue Luffy.

                                                                      But maybe he will go too. There are many storytelling options.

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                                                                        What if the one to defeat Kaido is none other than Usopp, via one of Tama's Ki-bi-Dango ball's? It would be hilarious if the weakest Strawhat defeated the strongest creature in the world.

                                                                        Obviously, it wouldn't be "that simple" and the whole alliance would need to play their part in Kaido being distracted enough for Usopp to actually pull it off, plus he would have to fire it from an impossible even longer distance than when he knocked out Sugar for the 2nd time, back in Dressrosa, but without Viola's help this time.

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                                                                          I honestly think we will only see Elbaf after Wano and before Raftel. And maybe some chapters devoted to figuring out the island the Road Poneglyphs point to and tying together the way to Raftel.

                                                                          Look at it by way of how many chapters this thing will last. There are reasons to believe that Wano will be more than 100 chapters plus the ending of the Reverie and all that stuff. I think there's a strong possibility that Wano/Reverie will be done at about 1040/1050. Than we have Elbaf. I mean, how long should Oda do this? It's a location the crew has to visit, so ~20 chapters at least, though more likely about 45/50, the length of Punk Hazard. Then we would be almost at 1100. Raftel and the Final War not considered into it. Keep in mind that when Oda had his first assumption regarding One Piece's length, he thought 1 Year east Blue, 3 years journey, 1 year Final War. Even in his most primitive state of the author's planning, he thought the Final War to be one fifth of the entire series. So I think 200 chapters seems legit for the Final War. And we have Raftel, which you can bet on a long True History flashback, some discovery and so on, so assume at least 50 chapters for this too.

                                                                          In a nutshell, I think Oda has so much to do that he has a vested interst of not expanding the New World much forther. We already have a great To-Do-list.

                                                                          Do I have a tunnel vision? Maybe. But I think given the authors habit regarding arc lengths and so on it's a reasonable estimation of how things will unfold and that simply leaves not much time. Oda literally has a great To-Do-list.

                                                                          I'm not going to get into theoretical chapter counts, but for me there is a significant distinction to be made between what we, as fans, think/know that Oda wants to cover and what Oda himself knows that he wants to cover. I don't think anyone, myself included, can purport to have a full grasp of Oda's "checklist", so saying everything left can (to say nothing of will) be wrapped up in Elbaf->Raftel->Final War is a pretty bold assertion. Even if there are no other "major" arcs, I don't think a couple of smaller arcs (Punk Hazard or even Zou length) would necessarily be out of place, especially for plot points that don't necessarily weave into the big ones naturally. For example:

                                                                          He can be introduced at the Reverie.

                                                                          Setting aside the fact that I highly doubt we will be getting anything beyond exposition-dumps and flashbacks for what's left of the Reverie, we have no indication that Vegapunk is actually in Mary Geoise - last we heard, Smoker and Tashigi were making a fairly lengthy trip to get the Punk Hazard kids to him - and even if he were, the Strawhats are not (unless one counts Vivi).

                                                                          Furthermore, the point isn't his introduction, but rather what role he will play going forward. There's his past connections to both Caesar Clown and Vinsmoke Judge, his role in the development of the Pacifistas (to say nothing of what he did to Kuma), and whatever he's cooked up to render the Shichibukai obsolete that may factor in. Even beyond his role as the World Government's inventor extraordinaire, there has long been suggestion that Vegapunk will answer many outstanding questions on the nature of Devil Fruits, which has the potential to tie directly in to Blackbeard's "power hunting" operations and how precisely that is being accomplished.

                                                                          Whether he's really a threat that needs to be dealt with or not, I think there are pretty significant reasons for the Strawhats to meet him - and soon.

                                                                          How about Elbaf? Seriously, Oda seems to like to create situations now, in which many plot points can be wrapped up pretty quickly, so why not "conveniently" having the last one appear where? Maybe with some adventure tied in to recover him.

                                                                          The final Road Poneglyph is said to be "lost", so I'm doubtful that it can be found on Elbaf. More to the point, all the Road Poneglyphs thus far have been "convenient" for the Strawhats in some way. They were gladly shown the one on Zou and given information on its purpose, how to use them and the location of the two others. And though those two others were/are under heavy guard, they are also in the possession of individuals that the Strawhats were planning on confronting regardless, thus meaning that they never had to really go out of their way to acquire them.

                                                                          Thus, to my mind, the last one should be the MOST "inconvenient" to retrieve, hopefully forcing Robin to do some detective work in piecing together its location and possibly even setting off a race with other factions (Blackbeard, for example) to get to it first.

                                                                          Can be done in one chapter. regarding Weevil, whatever Oda has in store for him, Marco and the others will play a role in it.

                                                                          If it were simply Luffy paying a visit, and maybe having some words with Marco, a couple chapters would be plenty, but the reason I mentioned Weevil is that it's entirely possible Marco CAN'T handle him. He may not be particularly smart, but Weevil's been compared to Whitebeard in his prime when it comes to raw strength and his entire M.O. has been hunting down the former Whitebeard commanders in search of recognition (and treasure). If Weevil is too much for him, then Whitebeard and Ace's graves are likely in danger. Beyond that, we don't actually know the content of Marco's message to Luffy yet.

                                                                          Furthermore, if the topic of Rox and other pirates that were active 40 years ago is intended to be a big deal in the series proper, as opposed to just a hook for the next movie, a confrontation would give a chance for both Bucking and the late Whitebeard himself to have their part of that story told.

                                                                          How about crashing the Reverie? How about destroying Giant Tree at Elbaf? How about killing freakin' Shanks while our heroes go to Raftel?

                                                                          All interesting ideas, but we don't have any real insight into Teach's plans at the moment. Short of his active Devil Fruit hunting and a general notion that he's shooting for Pirate King like Luffy, we have very little to go on as when trying to divine Blackbeard's motives, and thus no real way to predict his actions beyond a general sense that he's probably up to something. I think a confrontation with Shanks is probably in the cards, but that's more due to past foreshadowing than anything we've seen recently. Beyond that, I don't know that we can really say anything.

                                                                          There you have it. All can be displayed without any other arcs.

                                                                          Since the New World, Oda generally seems to go the route of "Less arcs, but longer and with more resloving plot points". It seems to be a noticably different Modus Operandi than in Paradise (where we had 16 (!!) arcs before the time skip).

                                                                          I wouldn't say that the length of the arcs post-timeskip is the notable feature, but rather how interconnected they are. Again, I don't think a couple of shorter arcs would be out of place, and trying to cram everything into the big ones may not always be viable. Sometimes the best way to give a particular plot thread extra narrative weight is to let it stand on its own.

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                                                                          A very interesting and welcome choice that we didn't see any Strawhats at all in this chapter. But if Raizo is in charge of freeing Luffy, I guess the others (except for Zoro) are involved in this plan.

                                                                          I will point out that Chopper was actually there looking after O-tama, but you're right on this otherwise…

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                                                                            So King is also a dragon. I guess my theory can still hold up that it's the officers of the Yonkou crews that will have the Four Beasts represented on each crew, not the officers and captains. Now we just need to see if Shanks has a Byakko the White Tiger on there somewhere. Hopefully soon we'll see, since he dropped in on the Elders recently.

                                                                            I'm a little disappointed Queen isn't a woman but at least it's a mystery what Queen's ability is, so that leaves a little intrigue. We've got a mythical and an ancient zoan among the All-Stars, so if Queen's is a normal zoan to round out that trinity, it would have to be a hell of a monstrous beast to be a Calamity level threat.

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                                                                              I'm too interested in the Prison break team, there's already Luffy, Kid and Bone spitter in the inside, law also said he cant leave Luffy on is own, so he's in, I expect Killer to join as well.

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                                                                                So King is also a dragon.

                                                                                Uh, how did you come to that conclusion.

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                                                                                  So King is also a dragon. I guess my theory can still hold up that it's the officers of the Yonkou crews that will have the Four Beasts represented on each crew, not the officers and captains. Now we just need to see if Shanks has a Byakko the White Tiger on there somewhere. Hopefully soon we'll see, since he dropped in on the Elders recently.

                                                                                  I'm a little disappointed Queen isn't a woman but at least it's a mystery what Queen's ability is, so that leaves a little intrigue. We've got a mythical and an ancient zoan among the All-Stars, so if Queen's is a normal zoan to round out that trinity, it would have to be a hell of a monstrous beast to be a Calamity level threat.

                                                                                  Oda actually gonna have SH defeat a Yonko this time so of course there isn't a major female top tier involved. It's the main reason why I think BM will be dealt with by another faction.

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                                                                                    Queen might have a Scorpion DF, if those Beast Pirate ships from the Zou arc are any indication.

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                                                                                    Oda actually gonna have SH defeat a Yonko this time so of course there isn't a major female top tier involved. It's the main reason why I think BM will be dealt with by another faction.

                                                                                    That's a pretty silly reason when it's been reiterated yet again that she's coming to Wano.

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                                                                                      I'm too interested in the Prison break team, there's already Luffy, Kid and Bone spitter in the inside, law also said he cant leave Luffy on is own, so he's in, I expect Killer to join as well.

                                                                                      Killer might also be there in another cell (don't think he straight up forsake Kidd and went to work under Kaidou). Also, Nami would be a good choice for the covert operation since she can turn "invisible".

                                                                                      Luffy vs Katakuri Full fight: https://www.docdroid.net/qrFOY9p/luffyxkata.pdf

                                                                                      Luffy vs Cracker Full fight : https://www.docdroid.net/Pk06JZL/luffy-vs-cracker.pdf

                                                                                      Luffy vs Doflamingo Full fight : https://www.docdroid.net/VDl3Ctf/luffyxdoffy.pdf

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                                                                                        Queen might have a Scorpion DF, if those Beast Pirate ships from the Zou arc are any indication.

                                                                                        That's a pretty silly reason when it's been reiterated yet again that she's coming to Wano.

                                                                                        And? Doesn't mean she'll be dealt with by the SH.

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                                                                                          And? Doesn't mean she'll be dealt with by the SH.

                                                                                          It doesn't matter who deals with her in this arc, she will be involved in it is all I'm saying.

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                                                                                            It doesn't matter who deals with her in this arc, she will be involved in it is all I'm saying.

                                                                                            Never said she wouldn't be involved in this arc, but that another faction will be the ones to bring her down.

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                                                                                              SO unless King likes to stay in his hybrid zoan mode all the time, then he must be some other race like bird, similar to morgans, except he is some half one like jack, that is not full fishman. And not like the guys from skypea since they have small wings, not huge like his. And the fire coudl be some paramecia, similar to ace, not even actual zoan.

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                                                                                                Oda needs to showcase some strong Zoan users and this is the perfect time IMO. I can't wait to see another Lucci style fight with raw strength that all the Zoans possess.

                                                                                                Luffy vs Katakuri Full fight: https://www.docdroid.net/qrFOY9p/luffyxkata.pdf

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                                                                                                  SO unless King likes to stay in his hybrid zoan mode all the time, then he must be some other race like bird, similar to morgans, except he is some half one like jack, that is not full fishman. And not like the guys from skypea since they have small wings, not huge like his. And the fire coudl be some paramecia, similar to ace, not even actual zoan.

                                                                                                  Or it could be just fake wings, like Magellan's.

                                                                                                  It seems logical to assume that the Disasters are all Zoans, considering that the only non-Zoan Beast Pirate so far is a recent addition that may not have been given much of a choice (Hawkins). In particular, Queen appears to have a scorpion theme, going by their hair and the scorpion-themed ships that rescued Jack.

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                                                                                                  Oda actually gonna have SH defeat a Yonko this time so of course there isn't a major female top tier involved. It's the main reason why I think BM will be dealt with by another faction.

                                                                                                  Oda doesn't really have a problem hurting tough-looking women. That's why we saw her getting attacked many times while the SH fled Totto Land.

                                                                                                  Plus, Big Mom is the obvious Elbaf Arc antagonist, as she has too many ties with that country.

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                                                                                                    Or it could be just fake wings, like Magellan's.

                                                                                                    It seems logical to assume that the Disasters are all Zoans, considering that the only non-Zoan Beast Pirate so far is a recent addition that may not have been given much of a choice (Hawkins). In particular, Queen appears to have a scorpion theme, going by their hair and the scorpion-themed ships that rescued Jack.

                                                                                                    If wings are fake, and only for his design, then why not use some smaller ones like magellan, spykea guys, urouge, and not huge ass wings that do nothing? His head is also wierd, and his legs are slim, look at him in the small panel in top left of the page. It does make sense for him to have zoan, but not something obvious like fire bird something, considering all the weird combos out there like pekoms, Pierre, jack, Lasso, kaidou himself.

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                                                                                                      A very interesting and welcome choice that we didn't see any Strawhats at all in this chapter. But if Raizo is in charge of freeing Luffy, I guess the others (except for Zoro) are involved in this plan.

                                                                                                      Obviously, this second act will be longer than the first. So the first was about 15 chapters. It could very well be that this act may be twice that length.

                                                                                                      There is a general sense in here that we don't know where things are going and this chapter didn't even give us a clue about what the other crewmembers are doing. I like that.

                                                                                                      Hey man ive been getting sick of him lately but chopper is still a strawhat lol

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                                                                                                      So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?

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                                                                                                        Or it could be just fake wings, like Magellan's.

                                                                                                        It seems logical to assume that the Disasters are all Zoans, considering that the only non-Zoan Beast Pirate so far is a recent addition that may not have been given much of a choice (Hawkins). In particular, Queen appears to have a scorpion theme, going by their hair and the scorpion-themed ships that rescued Jack.

                                                                                                        Maybe he's awakened. Just differently than those guards. It's possible you either control it or you don't.

                                                                                                        Not too sure on the scorpion. Then again, we've had Onigumo as an arachnid and scorpions fall in the same category.

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                                                                                                        Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                                                                                        It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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