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    Chapter 919: The Ruins of Oden Castle

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      Some questions regarding Kaido, Wano and the timeline… I haven't been following the chapters that much for the last months, so some points and questions from me:

      1. So Kaido has been occupying Wano since 20 years? That means that Wano has been under Beast Pirate's rule since almost the start of the Great Pirate Age. An interesting fact. Why seems no one to know this? Well, OK, since Wano is a closed country.

      2. Was Kaido a Yonko than? When exactly where the Yonko first named by the Marines? Or was Kaido an upstart pirate at the time?

      3. Kaido's motivation seems to be clear to me: He wants to exert information about what the Roger Pirates discovered by brutal means and maybe by targeting some of their members, so he may have an advantage when it comes to achieving Raftel. Obviously he hasn't...

      4. It seems that Kaido and Jack may have learned about Raizou only a few weeks ago, since Jack's attack on Zou was only at that time. Why didn't they learn about Raizou (and probably the Minks and Zunisha) any sooner? Or did they learn 20 years ago, but hadn't found Zunisha? So they took 20 years to found Zunisha? Why exactly was Raizou SO important?

      5. Is there any chance that there is an angle in which Shanks plays a role in there? Roger Pirates, Kaido... I seem to recall that Shanks prevented Kaido from reaching Marineford. Shanks arrived unscathed. That, to me, points to some kind of "deal" between them and no long fight. Has this to do anything with events on Wano/Kaido's influence or any role in the story? oda has never adressed this, but I bet it WILL come up later.

      Really helpful would be some kind of information about how and when the Yonko began to dominate the New World. Or how the Pirate Age was structured before... Well before it arouse after Roger's death. I find it supicious that "Rocks" was introduced before Wano for instance. :getlost:

      Feel free to answer if I missed some information or overlooked something.

      Carrot's still never gonna join the crew. ![](images/smilies/ipb/wink.png "Wink")

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        That's why I specifically said "Oden being as old as Shanks" when I mention the scenario being weird…

        Shanks is 39 now -> 19 when Oden died -> 11 when Momo was born

        Well, you are right. It would be extrange, to say the least, if they were the exactly the same age.

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          This was posted in the wano thread. If you haven't seen this yet, its amazing lol Tama will defeat Kaidou

          https://img00.deviantart.net/f40a/i/2018/269/e/8/happy_kaido_by_minhquach94-dcnpt5h.jpg

          I love this. Whoever drew this really gets One Piece.

          One Million points to Franky doing his centaur mode and speed kicking him.

          HOW COME LUFFY NEVER KILLS AN ENEMY?

          ODA:ITS BECAUSE IN THAT ERA EVERYONE USES THEIR LIVES TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS. FOR AN ENEMY WHEN THEIR DREAM HAS BEEN SHATTERED,IT IS AS PAINFUL AS DEATH,I BELIEVE FOR A PIRATE NOT TO KILL AN ENEMY , IT'S GIVING THEM A SECOND CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS.

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            I didn't see Momonosuke in there, you'd think he'd have to be with his being the Koizuki heir.

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              @Big:

              Some questions regarding Kaido, Wano and the timeline… I haven't been following the chapters that much for the last months, so some points and questions from me:

              1. So Kaido has been occupying Wano since 20 years? That means that Wano has been under Beast Pirate's rule since almost the start of the Great Pirate Age. An interesting fact. Why seems no one to know this? Well, OK, since Wano is a closed country.

              It appears that yes, Kaido has in fact been occupying Wano for over 20 years. At the very least, he's clearly had a presence there in some fashion all this time. This also makes the existence of those factories make a lot more sense, as they look as if they've been there for a long time. It also provides clarity as to why the people of Wano, despite being brainwashed to reject the idea of opening its borders, accepting foreigners, etc., they live alongside the Beast Pirates as if it's completely normal. If they've been there for years, then it helps justify why Kaido's crew is the sole exception.

              2. Was Kaido a Yonko than? When exactly where the Yonko first named by the Marines? Or was Kaido an upstart pirate at the time?

              We're not sure. It seems that he was at least considered one when he fought Moriah (The chapter was after Moriah's defeat, forgot the # tho), which was at least 12 years ago I believe, seeing as how Moriah spent a decade forming a zombie army to take on Kaido. But 20 years ago? No idea.

              4. It seems that Kaido and Jack may have learned about Raizou only a few weeks ago, since Jack's attack on Zou was only at that time. Why didn't they learn about Raizou (and probably the Minks and Zunisha) any sooner? Or did they learn 20 years ago, but hadn't found Zunisha? So they took 20 years to found Zunisha? Why exactly was Raizou SO important?

              We don't know. The only thing I could personally say at this point in time is that the chances of there being a traitor has increased. And I don't think Raizo is more important than the others, if that's what you're implying. I think it's simply that they knew where he was, or maybe it's more accurate to say that they knew where they were all headed. At Dressrosa, everyone but Raizo was accounted for, so I guess they just put 2 and 2 together and determined that Raizo was on his way to Zou. Kanjuro held off Doflamingo's men and got himself captured, while Kin'emon and Momo inadvertently managed to make it to Punk Hazard without revealing their identities.

              5. Is there any chance that there is an angle in which Shanks plays a role in there? Roger Pirates, Kaido… I seem to recall that Shanks prevented Kaido from reaching Marineford. Shanks arrived unscathed. That, to me, points to some kind of "deal" between them and no long fight. Has this to do anything with events on Wano/Kaido's influence or any role in the story? oda has never adressed this, but I bet it WILL come up later.

              I'm very doubtful of this. But at the same time, Shanks is a complete enigma, so who knows.

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                Zoro?!?!?! Where did you run off to now??? =/

                Easily the most underrated panel in the chapter.
                Oda put off the Zoro/Sanji reunion (que Zoro leaves the crew hype fangirls), and Kinemon's story time. Multi purpose plot device activated.

                Anything humans can imagine is a possibility in reality-Physicist Willy Karen

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                  Early chapter / early spoilers this week, right?

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                    Easily the most underrated panel in the chapter.
                    Oda put off the Zoro/Sanji reunion (que Zoro leaves the crew hype fangirls), and Kinemon's story time. Multi purpose plot device activated.

                    Huh? They're not waiting for Zoro to tell the story.

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                      This was posted in the wano thread. If you haven't seen this yet, its amazing lol Tama will defeat Kaidou

                      https://img00.deviantart.net/f40a/i/2018/269/e/8/happy_kaido_by_minhquach94-dcnpt5h.jpg

                      …. Beautiful. It might happen

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                        @ArmamentHero:

                        Snake woman I love. Haha

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rokurokubi

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                        Early chapter / early spoilers this week, right?

                        Spoilers are out, hopefully the chapter will be out tomorrow earliest.

                        Zoro vs. Caesar

                        Don Noflamingo vs. Robowarden

                        Luffy vs Akainu (fan made manga)

                        The Birth of Frank aka FFotSDMDBeB: First fist of the Sea, DonMarimo DoBuggino exploring Bonesbeard.

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