Chapter 918: Luffytaro Repays the Favor

SuburbanErrorist

Gotoryu maybe!

Hands, tusks with possible appendages and a trunk swinging the last one.

Those sickles of his look weird, considering his size. I imagine, if he were a swordsman, he'd have a more imposing weapon. And those sickles didn't have anything memorable about them. It's like they're more of a tool and less a dedicated fighting style, similar to BB's guns, for example.

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For an arc this big, on a Swordsman Island, I doubt Zoro will have just one serious clash.

Just hope Sanji can make enough sandwiches in time.

I mean Pica wasnt really a swordsman either but he had a sword. There has been foreshadowing in colour spreads in the past of zoro vs mammoth.

Blissed

@SuburbanErrorist:

I mean Pica wasnt really a swordsman either but he had a sword. There has been foreshadowing in colour spreads in the past of zoro vs mammoth.

Eh, I doubt this supposed foreshadowing is worth more than Luffy explicitly saying he wants to kick his ass.

ImmaIvanoM

@uniaka:

Ruluka Island Arc So time travel is out of the question unless oda starts to copy old anime fillers.

But that was more of suspended time than time travel

Monquito

aah aah ahh, you know what else is weird, that Kiku knows about Jack maritime accident being Wano an isolated country where people didn't know Ace and his fate

Razh

@Monquito:

aah aah ahh, you know what else is weird, that Kiku knows about Jack maritime accident being Wano an isolated country where people didn't know Ace and his fate

Seeing how Jack is back, the word might have got around among Kaido's men and then spread around like plague.

ImmaIvanoM

@Tarek:

Chapter 916:
[qimg]https://i.imgur.com/pqneXly.jpg?1[/qimg]
The clan of evil spirits.

Holy crap I forgot this happened in the official translation

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@Kuma:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rip_Van_Winkle

Inspiration by Oda?

Helsing Ultimate Reference

KageKageKing

@Monquito:

aah aah ahh, you know what else is weird, that Kiku knows about Jack maritime accident being Wano an isolated country where people didn't know Ace and his fate

Maybe because Kaido is the only Pirate know to Wano?

Cavendish

@dropper:

Why Movie 6? :wassat:

Spoilers for movie 6 Baron Omatsuri and the Secret Island:

! The twist at the end is that the movie villain Baron Omatsuri's crew was actually dead the whole time he used the ability of a plant called the Lily Carnation (which was powered by him feeding it people) to recreate his crew.
! The "Red Arrow Pirates" who run the resort (which was a trap to lure in pirates to feed to the Lily Carnation) all shrivel and turn into plants when Luffy defeats Baron Omatsuri and the Lily Carnation since they were just an illusion of Omatsuri's dead crew all along.

Now on the topic of this chapter and the graves: I don't think it is likely but I'm hoping that there is something special about Wano/Kozuki clan that caused Momonosuke and the trio to come back as some kind of revenants similar to the Finnish "reappearing uninjured and in normal dress after being buried" kind. It could also be a better version of Brook's DF I guess.

I mainly want to avoid any kind of time travel plot because I don't want to see Oda create a bunch of time paradox problems.

Also I think Hawkins is clearly playing both sides waiting to see what happens since I doubt his incompetence in reporting things is just a fluke.

Watch-man

I would like to see Katakuri vs Jack. With expectation that Jacks CoA is as special as Katakuris CoO. I think that insane CoO is better skill to have.

Also it would be cool if King in Kaidous crew would be Rokushiki specialist.

Jack fighting Zoro would be great and all but I think we will have Monster Trio vs Jack with him blocking with CoA everything M3 throws at him beside King Kong Gun.

Desperado

The part where Luffy feeds hungry villagers was a callback to his speech at fishman island where he announced never to feed hungy villagers, right?

Roronoa Zacho

@Monquito:

aah aah ahh, you know what else is weird, that Kiku knows about Jack maritime accident being Wano an isolated country where people didn't know Ace and his fate

Jack was seen days ago on Wano. Word probably spread about his maritime accident the old way (by telling). No newspaper needed.

BattleFranky69

Didn't even realize this was out yet til I saw the thread title.

Lady Speed…damn, that was funny. It's curious how Tama's ability works, since Speed doesn't listen to Luffy's orders, only Tama's, so unless Kaido was able to brainwash or threaten her or at least threaten someone she cared about, he couldn't make use of her ability to his benefit. But they probably don't know that so they just wanted to kidnap her and find out for themselves. But she's got a kind heart so they'd have to just show her they have no problem harming others to get her to cooperate, although if her cooperation would end up harming others, I don't know how she'd handle that.

I still don't get Hawkins' motivation. If he knew it was Law, why bother removing the disguise? Call him out and he'll remove it willingly because he knows he's making a fool of himself otherwise, rather than having to waste energy trying to slash it off. But if he already knows what Law was trying to conceal anyway, then seriously, why not have already called Jack, especially when he admits he's not capable of handling the trio (not to mention there are bound to be both crews there anyway)? At least show something that tells us he's got something up his sleeve. I don't want to wait 15 chapters to get a hint that he's found the location of where Kidd is imprisoned or something and that was what he was waiting for. He's one of my favorite Supernovas and it's lame seeing him be so slow to get to what I'm sure will make him awesome later.

As to the gravestones, that's super weird. We know ghosts exist because Brook, but are the people we know as Kinemon, etc., just those who've taken on the names of the fallen and are carrying on their legacy out of honor or something? Or are they animated shikigami/homunculi like we've seen in so many other series? Momonosuke being able to hear and command Zunisha and Kinemon having a DF ability in spite of what happens when one dies, does make it curious.

CHiZZoPs

@Kaido:

https://i.imgur.com/VwdpYCF.png?1

That guy in the middle…

LMFAO! I was so focused on the hilarious rabbit beard guy that I completely missed the schlange schwanz!

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Maybe he was hidden in a giant peach which put him into stasis until now.

BellisarioFaith

Apologies for the lack of comparisons last week. Had a friend visiting from out of state. I'll add it to my list of things I may possibly perhaps get around to one day.

Now for this week's:

In the scanlations, when Luffy wraps his arm around Speed's torso from behind and she swoons at first, she calls it "embracing" in Mangastream and "hugging" in Jaimini's Box. In the official translation, it gets a bit punny when she asks who's "manhandling" her.
Also in the scanlations, when Luffy tells Tama to use one of her dumplings on Speed, she protests with "it doesn't work on humans". In the official, she says "it's never worked on a person", implying that she's tried using it multiple times on people.
In the scanlations (and original Japanese), Luffy nicknames Speed "Umami", with JB's TN explaining that "uma" means "horse" and "mi" is a common ending for girls' names. The official version converts it appropriately, where Luffy calls her "Horselina".
In MS, Speed's underlings wonder if Luffy has "taken advantage of a weakness of hers" to control her, while in JB they wonder if he's blackmailing her, and similarly in VIZ, if he's got "some kind of dirt on Speed".
Law silently tells Hawkins to "disappear" in the scanlations, and "get lost" in the official (which makes it even more obvious ahead of time that Law doesn't actually want to kill him). Once Hawkins realizes who he is and snatches his hat off, Law notes how quickly Hawkins figured it out in the scanlations, but has the slightly different "Well, you certainly think on your feet!" in the official version.
He also says "I'm still just bluffing" in MS, which sounds a little more awkward compared to JB and VIZ, where he uses the past tense, saying "I was just trying to scare you."/"It was just a bluff." Also, when Hawkins comments to Law about having met Luffy earlier, in JB he says that he's sure Law would have wanted to meet up with Luffy first and shut him (Luffy) up before he exposed Law's plan, but in MS and VIZ, Hawkins is saying that he's sure Law wanted to shut him up (as in, Hawkins) before Hawkins blew their cover.
While Law rnotes in all three versions that Luffy feeding Leftover Town is a rebellion against Wano, the official translation adds him saying "let me be clear" before remarking that.
In MS, Hawkins remarks that what happened is "a rather public failure", while in JB notes that "Holdem and his forces messed up", and both of the scanlations, adds that even if he'd been there, he wouldn't have been able to [take down the three troublesome people], whereas in the official, he says "Yes. It doesn't reflect well upon me", but with those three at once, "even I have no recourse".
When Zoro is remarking in exasperation on what Luffy's done, he starts it with "Sheesh. Always doing too much" in the MS version, "Jeez, you're being too reckless" in JB, and "Well, you've really gone and done it" in VIZ.

Watch-man

Thank you as always for sharing VIZ translation differences.

RigaCrypto

@CHiZZoPs:

LMFAO! I was so focused on the hilarious rabbit beard guy that I completely missed the schlange schwanz!

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Maybe he was hidden in a giant peach which put him into stasis until now.

Schlange or not, it is the second guy with animal growing from his pelvis area so there could be a pattern to the transformations when eating SMILE df.

Roronoa Zacho

@Kaizoku_Ou:

Lol Oda will have to own up to that one eyed snake joke hehehe. There is no other way to see it

It would have been hilarious if that snake had an eyepatch, wouldn't it?
Aside from Sheepshead, did we ever see a Smile-user transform?
I wouldn't go as far as saying "there is a pattern to the smiles", cause even if there was, it seems so random and makes the smile-DFs just look like an undeveloped product.

The "pattern" would be that the animal or animal part grows from the limbs:
Sheepshead, Wolfhands, Speed(?), Gazelle

Animal/animal-parts from the Torso:
Holdem, Pelvis snake

Almost-look-like-hybrid-zoans:
Mouse and Batman

and then there is Bunny-beard, though he could belong to the Torso-smiles.

Watch-man

I think that if Jack will fight against Strawhats monster trio and they will be really unable to KO him then it would be funny if Luffy King Kongs Jack out of Wano into the far off sea where someone will need to get him from bottom of sea again.

Then we could have Jack vs Inu and Neko at end of arc.

uniaka ikuzakas

Hard to say what oda plans for jack, but I would like it if luffy starts the battle with jack, to show he can handle him, then catviper and dogstorm show up and take the fight from him while luffy Leaves it to them.

Btw what zoan fits to fight a power ranger?

Piitan

@uniaka:

Btw what zoan fits to fight a power ranger?

Mythical Zoan Hebi Hebi no mi, model: Gojira.

RigaCrypto

@Roronoa:

Almost-look-like-hybrid-zoans:
Mouse and Batman

For me Batman, Speed & Gazelle all have the same transformation, the lower body part and some extra parts like ears, nose, etc.

Then it's ofc Holdem and Snakelvis that have middle body part transformations.

Sheepshead & other Gifters from that anime that have hand/upper limbs transformations.

And the last one is the upper body part transformation that was seen on Wolf guy, Rabbit guy.

Also. in the anime there was a guy with a bat for hand https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/1/1f/Gifters_Grip_Trio.png/revision/latest?cb=20161009151417 and i don't remember if he was canon or not. if it's canon then there are multiple SMILES of the same model i think.

Razh

Considering how they were mass produced, there have to be multiple SMILES with the same model.

Whether Oda will make more than one SMILE zoan of the same animal a noticeable character or not is a different matter.

Watch-man

@uniaka:

Hard to say what oda plans for jack, but I would like it if luffy starts the battle with jack, to show he can handle him, then catviper and dogstorm show up and take the fight from him while luffy Leaves it to them.

Btw what zoan fits to fight a power ranger?

Do you mean enemy for Sanji ?

I would say that T-Rex with laser weapons would be perfect fit lol. Or for Power Ranger Sanji to fight alongside Drake-X with for example a calamity. Drake and Sanji both hate their fathers so they have something in common..

I do wonder what is Drake motivation when it comes to joining Kaido..

BattleFranky69

@Watch-man:

Do you mean enemy for Sanji ?

I would say that T-Rex with laser weapons would be perfect fit lol. Or for Power Ranger Sanji to fight alongside Drake-X with for example a calamity. Drake and Sanji both hate their fathers so they have something in common..

I do wonder what is Drake motivation when it comes to joining Kaido..

X Drake does seem like the most enigmatic of the Supernovas. Quitting the Navy to become a pirate, then trying to get Kaido's attention for unknown reasons, then working for him without confirming whether or not it's out of self-preservation, or intent to serve, or some other ulterior motive.

Was it ever stated what the proportional increase in strength was for Zoan DF users? Like how a Fishman is inherently 10X stronger than a normal human? I wonder if SMILEs have a lesser degree of that increase. I'd estimate it would since the transformations are less than total from the look of things.

Desperado

@Razh:

Considering how they were mass produced, there have to be multiple SMILES with the same model.

Whether Oda will make more than one SMILE zoan of the same animal a noticeable character or not is a different matter.

The whole point of SMILE is so Oda can produce a large amount of devil fruit users in one place (which otherwise would be rather unlikely due to the scarcity of the devil fruits) and so he can bend their rules a little bit because they are not the actual thing for narrative purposes.

RigaCrypto

@Desperado:

The whole point of SMILE is so Oda can produce a large amount of devil fruit users in one place (which otherwise would be rather unlikely due to the scarcity of the devil fruits) and so he can bend their rules a little bit because they are not the actual thing for narrative purposes.

Ofc, but it wasn't necessarily implied that there can be more DF of the same model. That would mean that Kaido could get his hands on a Ancient Zoan and make 15 of those in a snap. It would be a bit overpowerd.

K. Kira XXIII

@RigaCrypto:

Ofc, but it wasn't necessarily implied that there can be more DF of the same model. That would mean that Kaido could get his hands on a Ancient Zoan and make 15 of those in a snap. It would be a bit overpowerd.

And then the user's butt would be the only thing that got the fruit's effect.

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I would very much like if the fleet's story ended with Bellamy's Straw Hat flag.

I think it would be fun if part of the plan is to feed the headliners with Tama's power. I am extremely interested in seeing how Luffy will differ with Ace in regards to the promise Ace had made Tama. She still does not know that Ace and Luffy were brothers, how will she react to that?

Interesting there is a plan. Wonder what they thought about, because Luffy will keep ruining it.

That last page, I seriously do not know what to make of it yet. Ghosts, time travel, reincarnation, intimidation tactics. So far, I am going for the latter, but I hope there is a mystical aspect to it, an awakened devil fruit that gives bodies to souls. There are so many possibilities, things are getting exciting.

Long John Silvers Rayleigh

As others have mentioned its gotta be more than just they aked their deaths or the shogun faked their deaths. Neither of those things would shock zoro, and that implies there's some kind of chicanery about.

uniaka ikuzakas

I wonder if there is DF power at work here. Similar to Sugar from dressrosa, like how people forget about the ones she transforms into toys.

Blissed

@Long:

As others have mentioned its gotta be more than just they aked their deaths or the shogun faked their deaths. Neither of those things would shock zoro, and that implies there's some kind of chicanery about.

Yup. Not to mention the tombstones look old as hell too.

BattleFranky69

What if there's some kind of trial only available to those who are like the Koizuki family, where they can fight/challenge Death itself (a la Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey), and they're on a temporary stay of execution, as it were, and if they die without fulfilling whatever their ultimate goal is, they get some horrible fate in the afterlife?

MrBits

Spur of the moment crackpot theory that probably won’t come true: If the Kozuki characters really are ghosts (or something similar), then that might mean they don’t “have” to eat. Maybe that explains Ryokugyu’s fasting, he’s a “ghost” too.

LucciCP9

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desa

@MrBits:

Spur of the moment crackpot theory that probably won’t come true: If the Kozuki characters really are ghosts (or something similar), then that might mean they don’t “have” to eat. Maybe that explains Ryokugyu’s fasting, he’s a “ghost” too.

Momo would need to not be a ghost since he stole the fruit he ate due to hunger.

MrBits

@desa:

Momo would need to not be a ghost since he stole the fruit he ate due to hunger.

They could have been like Brook when he was lost at sea. He spent years lost at sea and survived without food, but still could feel hunger.

joekido the Second

@MrBits:

They could have been like Brook when he was lost at sea. He spent years lost at sea and survived without food, but still could feel hunger.

That's only due to Brook's devil fruit power that gave him a second chance in life but found his body turned to bones but his devil fruit powers allowed Brook's body to function as if he still has his organs. Momonsuke already ate his devil fruit to turn him into a dragon without dying.

chaosceptor

@joekido:

That's only due to Brook's devil fruit power that gave him a second chance in life but found his body turned to bones but his devil fruit powers allowed Brook's body to function as if he still has his organs. Momonsuke already ate his devil fruit to turn him into a dragon without dying.

We're still working on the theory that Momo ate the artificial Vegapunk fruit and became a dragon through that. What hasn't been addressed however, is that the SMILE users seem to only push through a hybrid form of their animals that can be summoned (Sheepshead) or constantly there (Holdem). There's still a shitload of mystery on Momo's fruit. Could be because Vegapunk is a true genius and Caesar is a hack. Or Oda decided to switch up how SMILEs effect users during WCI. Momo is an enigma in the One Piece Story thus far. Trying to theorize with such little information puts us somewhere between "Bonney is Whitebeard's daughter" and "Luffy will eat the Mera Mera".

BattleFranky69

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Dat_Mango

@chaosceptor:

We're still working on the theory that Momo ate the artificial Vegapunk fruit and became a dragon through that. What hasn't been addressed however, is that the SMILE users seem to only push through a hybrid form of their animals that can be summoned (Sheepshead) or constantly there (Holdem). There's still a shitload of mystery on Momo's fruit. Could be because Vegapunk is a true genius and Caesar is a hack. Or Oda decided to switch up how SMILEs effect users during WCI. Momo is an enigma in the One Piece Story thus far. Trying to theorize with such little information puts us somewhere between "Bonney is Whitebeard's daughter" and "Luffy will eat the Mera Mera".

Momos fruit was created by a competent scientist the others werent.

BattleFranky69

@Dat_Mango:

Momos fruit was created by a competent scientist the others werent.

Yeah, Momo's definitely wasn't a SMILE, nor was it a standard one since it's a Mythical Zoan anyway. Of all the 'ghosts' we're seeing, only Raizou might not have a DF at this point since Kanjurou and Kinemon both do. I wonder if that means anything.