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Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 7 - Wano)
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Every nation gets the government it deserves.–-- Joseph de Maistre
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*She was.
Oda hasn't made her do anything of that sort (whatever little he did on WCI) in Wano arc so far. An arc that is already 60 chapters in.
You have a funny way of looking at the past as present.
Carrot still has plenty of time to shine. We had to wait the last part of the arc during WCI to see her Su-Long form
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Guess we know who majored in Philosophy
Finishing high-school is enough for this
Every nation gets the government it deserves.–-- Joseph de Maistre
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Yikes, there goes the moments that didn't happen lol. I didn't want to post it, but someone did
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Finishing high-school is enough for this
It feels more like a question of pretentions than knowledge. It would've probably come across less pretentious if you had called him a blowhard like a normal person rather than dipping into your philosophy vocab to slam a rubber pirate forum.
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The same traitor meme believers that blindly followed Artur's troll are saying someone doesn't know what they're addressing lol
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It feels more like a question of pretentions than knowledge. It would've probably come across less pretentious if you had called him a blowhard like a normal person rather than dipping into your philosophy vocab to slam a rubber pirate forum.
I don't think it was pretentious. There is no other words to say doxa, which is a common word that everyone who finished high-school knows (at least here, because we have philosophy in high-school). But whatever, I personally didn't know what "blowhard" meant. My english isn't as developed as yours. Anyway, if you wanna discuss what knowledge means, I'd be glad to do it here. A philosophy thread on a rubber pirate forum
Every nation gets the government it deserves.–-- Joseph de Maistre
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I don't think it was pretentious. There is no other words to say doxa, which is a common word that everyone who finished high-school knows (at least here, because we have philosophy in high-school). But whatever, I personally didn't know what "blowhard" meant. My english isn't as developed as yours. Anyway, if you wanna discuss what knowledge means, I'd be glad to do it here. A philosophy thread on a rubber pirate forum
Umm we definitely didn’t have a philosophy class in my high school
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I don't think it was pretentious. There is no other words to say doxa, which is a common word that everyone who finished high-school knows (at least here, because we have philosophy in high-school). But whatever, I personally didn't know what "blowhard" meant. My english isn't as developed as yours. Anyway, if you wanna discuss what knowledge means, I'd be glad to do it here. A philosophy thread on a rubber pirate forum
Please keep in mind that this is an international forum for people with different educational backgrounds. I understand that you can’t cater to everyone’s knowledge, but what you understand under doxa might vary between languages and disciplines, a philosopher might have a different understanding of the concept than a sociologist and even within their own disciplines, people might disagree on how to define it. Dropping it inside a one-liner without much of a context or explanation, just assuming people will understand you, seems highly pretentious to me. If there‘s no other one word for it try using multiple, that usually opens up your options. So feel free to try again in a way that more people may get your message.
I mean, my girlfriend finishes her Bachelor’s in sociology this summer and she was confused what your intended message was, because there are multiple meanings depending on who you ask
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I thought OJ was sensitive, wow
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Everything about Carrot is in the group? Didn't know we had a Mink with no clear goal that uses electro and would leave their home after it was almost destroyed twice for a selfish reason and not telling everyone.
Yes there is a mink in the crew(with 7 transformations), and yes, there is Electro in the crew(with an entire cloud of thunder)
both are covered 10 times better. proves that Carrot adds nothing new to the crew at all. and thats a fact.
no clear goal, destroyed twice and selfish bitch are all but irrelevant… like really. bunch of useless text to make your response needlesly larger... proves you have nothing on her.Was this not the discussion or did you get lost on your own point? I spoke on 1 part of the criteria that I used and instead of articulating that criteria differ, it becomes "Paulie fits that 1 criteria". You came in after that to support it with Chimney. When the evidence used to back it up, says otherwise, I question why a character who couldn't go 1 chapter without his associates being so close is compared to a character that goes actually 20+ chapters without their associates, is actively in a role and is developing chemistry with the crew. Why should I get away from the initial discussion. It shows what you want to deter from when you act as if the initial discussion doesn't matter.
aayy lmao, see how you're obsessed with that irrelevant stuff??
as long as she's been 60(not even counting Zou) with her people, 20 are just a number you'd expect from the larger arcs we´re getting lately.This doesn't cancel out for your initial Chimney stance. As far away that you want to get from that point, Carrot trumps Chimney and Paulie in the category that you chose to argue against. Paulie was suffocated by his associates for every chapter and Carrot got 20+ chapters. Chimney was barely shown away from her associates and with the crew performing any role after ditching her people. The extremities of the Carrot treatment by Oda hasn't been topped or matched in the category disputed. I didn't @ you to speak on this out of nowhere. You chose Chimney after reading the story just like I did and you lost this one. If you started and argued why your criteria is better, than you possibly had a chance. You didn't tho. You went with "not only does Paulie match that category, Chimney does as well".
Chimney, Paulie, Pekomz, Brownbeard, literally anyone we come to mention, we mentioned to show you that Carrot did nothing unique at all, it´s all been done.
and then you bring your mere 20´s, and ooh, Momo, Law, and Kin´emon crush her numbers easily.
Quantity does not matter at all either, just get that in your mind. Jinbe is gone tons of times here and there, still a Strawhat that actually adds new stuff to the crew.
Fishmen, Extreme abilities as a Helmsman, shoots water at mad speeds, former member of the ouka shichibukai. That alone tops it.
No Strawhat is a fishman, no strawhat drives the Sunny as crazy as he does, no strawhat controls water let alone for fighting purposes, no strawhat ever been a shichibukai.
Thats as unique as you´d want a proper candidate to be. not just someone that´s labeled from 'a country of Choppers'.
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doxa
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Yes there is a mink in the crew(with 7 transformations), and yes, there is Electro in the crew(with an entire cloud of thunder)
If Chopper is a Mink, then Brook doesn't exist. Zoro already has a sword. This is your logic. Franky has no business on the ship because Usopp can make up the patches. Chopper and others have steer the ship, so there's no use for Jinbei. You're contradicting an earlier point you made about utility and being unique here. Taking each part of a character and saying "we have all of this already" can be applied to many SH. Especially with saying that Nami covers Electro. It's your contradiction, so i'll let you figure which one you want to conveniently side with in the end.
no clear goal
1 of the 3 good arguments against Carrot possibly joining, yet it's irrelevant to you lol.
aayy lmao, see how you're obsessed with that irrelevant stuff??
as long as she's been 60(not even counting Zou) with her people, 20 are just a number you'd expect from the larger arcs we´re getting lately.60 chapters means nothing when comparing 20+ chapters to Paulie's 0 chapters. Lets do some math. How many chapters can she go in Wano without appearance to add to Paulie's 0? None at all. No matter how you try to spin it, Paulie has 0 chapters. Carrot could never become a SH and her 20+ still stomps all over Paulie's 0. What does the 60 do when comparing Paulie and Carrot? Do you remember that was the comparison even?
Chimney, Paulie, Pekomz, Brownbeard, literally anyone we come to mention, we mentioned to show you that Carrot did nothing unique at all, it´s all been done.
I still don't see the chapters provided where Pekoms selfishly leaves behind Zou after it's almost destroyed twice and spends 20+ chapters with the crew performing a role. Where are the chapter numbers for your claim? When did Brownbeard selfishly abandon his crew for at least 15+ chapters and performed a role for the crew's ship? What chapter, please i'm begging for it.
and then you bring your mere 20´s, and ooh, Momo, Law, and Kin´emon crush her numbers easily.
Law does crush Carrot. You're finally making progress here. I'm proud of you. It took a while, but you got there. Can't say the same about Momo and Kinemon, but it's the effort that counts.
Quantity does not matter at all either, just get that in your mind. Jinbe is gone tons of times here and there, still a Strawhat that actually adds new stuff to the crew.
"60 chapters of no Carrot development erases" - Monquyo in at least 4 post
This is the 3rd time you've contradicted yourself. When you make up your mind on your real stance, i'll be delighted to hear more of your takes on this. Keeping striving my fellow OP fan. You can do this
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Carrot left after 2 major crisis. You purposely left out the crisis part when comparing Minks. Pedro and Pekoms are the closest and came out of obligation to owing the crew. Carrot's reason has selfishness mixed in it and Pedro's hidden agenda doesn't come anywhere near that. That is very SH like.
I feel the opposite. I think Strawhats tend to sacrifice their personal desires for their love ones while those around them pushed them to it. Sanji was fine with not going after All Blue to stay with Zeff but the cooks pushed him to Luffy, Franky wanted to stay protect the family but they pushed him to sail with the sunny, Nami liked travelling with the crew but she chose to go back to Arlong because she had a duty to her people. Robin left for avoid their death.
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If Chopper is a Mink, then Brook doesn't exist. Zoro already has a sword. This is your logic. Franky has no business on the ship because Usopp can make up the patches. Chopper and others have steer the ship, so there's no use for Jinbei. You're contradicting an earlier point you made about utility and being unique here. Taking each part of a character and saying "we have all of this already" can be applied to many SH. Especially with saying that Nami covers Electro. It's your contradiction, so i'll let you figure which one you want to conveniently side with in the end.
Now swords and katanas are the same..
Humanoid fur figure with transformations, pretty much a Mink.
1 of the 3 good arguments against Carrot possibly joining, yet it's irrelevant to you lol.
Not having a goal is a good argument…. that's ridiculous even for your standards, from the thousands of characters we don't know the goals of, this somehow makes only Carrot a candidate...
60 chapters means nothing when comparing 20+ chapters to Paulie's 0 chapters. Lets do some math. How many chapters can she go in Wano without appearance to add to Paulie's 0? None at all. No matter how you try to spin it, Paulie has 0 chapters. Carrot could never become a SH and her 20+ still stomps all over Paulie's 0. What does the 60 do when comparing Paulie and Carrot? Do you remember that was the comparison even?
And more quantity obsession here… to begin with, I barely ever mentioned Paulie, so you may be mixting stuff with somone else, secondly as I already said Paulie was brought up to prove that Carrot is not the only one leaving things behind, and after a crisis(Iceburg assassination attempt, Galley La on fire), so there's no uniqueness there, the quantity of chapters is but irrelevant.
I still don't see the chapters provided where Pekoms selfishly leaves behind Zou after it's almost destroyed twice and spends 20+ chapters with the crew performing a role. Where are the chapter numbers for your claim? When did Brownbeard selfishly abandon his crew for at least 15+ chapters and performed a role for the crew's ship? What chapter, please i'm begging for it.
And more quantity obsession ladies and gentlemen…
Law does crush Carrot. You're finally making progress here. I'm proud of you. It took a while, but you got there. Can't say the same about Momo and Kinemon, but it's the effort that counts.
woop, another quantity obsessed statement… who'd say.
This is the 3rd time you've contradicted yourself. When you make up your mind on your real stance, i'll be delighted to hear more of your takes on this. Keeping striving my fellow OP fan. You can do
end of response and I find no new contributions to the crew with Carrot… how interestingly that instead of telling us of that unique stuff coming from Carrot you´re just stuck at 'but maaaa twenty chaaaaps'
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Geezus, the last five years have been an endless loop of this. I'm just going to start cutting and pasting one of these from now on until something new actually happens. Note that these posts are FIVE YEARS OLD, mostly made within the first week or two of Zou, and literally nothing has changed since then.
What is there TO take? We haven't seen anything yet. We're about to see a whole bunch of animal people. I'd be cool with one joining, but we already have Chopper so they'll have to really stand out.
Nothing about the designs so far screams "Oda spent a lot of time making this character design distinct in a way that will differentiate them for the rest of the series." If you can point out three-five really unique character design elements (Beyond "they're an animal person) that shows Oda really thought about their backstory, then we're talking.
Look at Chopper and he has things like the unusual hat, the broken antler, unusual body shape, and a blue nose (which is hard to tell in black and white.) ANd him being the first, being an animal person was unique for him. ANd he also had two different forms insantly… and then a bunch of forms pretty quickly within the first couple chapters of knowing him.
Franky had Popeye arms, star tattoos, metal nose, crazy eyelashes, ace ventura hair, three pronged chin, and a speedo... and started by doing a dance routine.
Brook is a skeleton with an afro that's dressed like a gentleman, and had a crack on his skull that uses a sword cane and laughed yohoho. That poops. Who Luffy asked to join after five seconds.
Jinbe has a specific tatoo, topknot, eye scar, unusual body shape, stripes in his hair, completely unique face shape, nose, tusks, unusual clothing style.The earlier human characters are a little less unique initially due to them being early designs, but Nami gets by with just being a girl originally.. but has since added the tatoo, log pose,Nojiko's bracelet, cimatact, and post time skip a certain style of dress. Luffy has the scar, hat, shorts and sandals (and now has an x scar on his chest) ... Zoro has a unique haircut, three earings, three swords (and now a scar). Usopp curly hair, armbands, long nose, armadillo hat, overalls and boots. Sanji has the hair swoop, curly eyebrow, kick attacks and suit. Robin had unusual eyes, haircut, and nose bridge (which have diminished and changed over time as Oda has drawn her thousands of times) and a clothing style and introduction that were really unique.
Carrot just looks like... what Oda would do if Oda decided he needed to draw a bunny girl. Outside of her being the third character to appear on the island, there's nothing about her screaming that much design thought. In fact, we still haven't gotten a clear shot of her. Just a minkman in action. If we see someone that's a legit candidate, we'll know them when we see them, they'll have backstory in their design. (And probably a splash shot and an introduction text box... but that's not requisite, Zoro and Chopper didn't get one, but were introduced in other ways.)
And other girl's main thing so far is "She's wearing Nami's clothes!" so she's definitely out.
As far as theoretical "we've only seen two panels of them" characters go, my money is still on three eyed girl given that she's still the only one in the series and how early on she was introduced in relation to the Big Mom story, even though she doesn't scream unique past the eye thing.
The issue isn't that they're both animal people. It's that there's very little thought about backstory put into her design. For Chopper 70 volumes ago, being an animal person would have been enough, but he still had way more than just that.
Carrot wasn't introduced as a major character with an establishing shot and intro box. She's cute sure, but pretty generic, considering two seconds later we see another girl with just as much effort in her design and a better entrance and establishing shot.
Carrot's not even on the level of Pekoms or Bepo for unique design. (Pekoms being a lion turtle with shades… Bepo for being a talking bear in an orange jumpsuit among a crew of humans. Unique in context... but not if he first showed up here.)
She's a bunny girl. What else can you gleam from looking at her? She... has some gloves to give her an offensive attack and... what else? Where's the scar, the unusual clothes, the unique body shape, the odd trinket, the old wound, the floppy ear, the eyes unlike anyone else's, the strange eyebrows or earings? She's pretty straightforward.
They don't need "dozens" of unique features... but they do need a couple.
When someone latches onto a character and then talks about their personality, in a way that isn't 100% fanfic or based on a single panel, then there's a case, sure.
There was no such thing for Monet, and people were reeeeeally stretching to apply tons of personality she just didn't have based on a line of dialogue, or misconstruing the scene where Law left a note for Chopper.
Monet was NOT a quiet blushy shy girl with a heart of gold working for the badguy with no idea of what she was really doing, no matter how much someone wanted it to be so. And Perona was someone that abandoned her friends at the drop of the hat and had no team loyalty. And Hancock had a huge list of reasons and obligations that couldn't be ignored, but that didn't prevent people from saying things like "Amazon Lilly can just go to war with the world, and Hancock can travel with Luffy then!" It's amazing to me that, given how hated Rebecca is now, people made such passionate cases for her… despite the fact that her dreams and aspirations were all along tied to Dresserossa... and she looked EXACTLY like Nami. Or Viola who looked just like Robin.
It's not that there's no room for such a character, its that people really wanted that character and were bending the actual facts to their will, writing huge essays about a single panel and their interpretation, and actively ignoring the actual problems and lack of character, at length, in order to make their case.
The fact that Brownbeard was overall a MUCH better fit as strawhat ally, but was wholly ignored while Monet was fantasized over for a year shows that yes, it purely came down to people wanting that character design, and not the character, to join the crew. Cripes, the amount of resistance Jinbe had, for YEARS, is ridiculous... and mostly boils down to him being fat or "boring".
That this thread is only interested in boobs wouldn't be a cliche if it didn't keep happening.
Every.
Single.
Time.Sure, obviously there's room for another female character instead of a 9th main male character. (And especially for a grandmother or youngest daughter role.) But I wouldn't put "push in media for stronger female roles" at Oda's doorstep... especially not Japanese media.
But when people are saying "tomboy brawler lookout gardener minkman girl" before such a character even exists? (And before that it was fishman...) When the first character we see, over and over, who have the same exact bodytype and face as the two girls already around? It's fanfic, pure and simple. And no, there really isn't room for discussion about that, because it is "I like boobs", consistently, pure and simple.
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People are really obsessed with design
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Purple haired shouju tomboy straight out of a miyazaki movie and various folktales aspiring to be a pirate kunoichi who can control beasts!
I just had to.If she wasn't 8 and basically completely helpless I'd give it to her. But that age is just a maaajor strike against her. Even if she were 12 or 13 it'd be something but….
No one will ever replace Zephos that’s a fact
I would love to see his remarks on this thread, especially the carrot debate
Just go back 4 years. I literally cut and pasted one of his responses earlier, about Pedro. You can't even tell it wasn't about Carrot. Nothing has changed.
In fact, ALL my responses the last couple days have just been cut an pasted, word for word with nothing changed, from years ago. I was hoping someone would notice but nope.
Even the post I just made, where the only change I made was to change 'two years" to "five years."
People are really obsessed with design
I wonder why that would be important in a visual medium where it reflects how much the author thought about the character, their backstory, and relation to others in advance.
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It's not that there's no room for such a character, its that people really wanted that character and were bending the actual facts to their will, writing huge essays about a single panel and their interpretation, and actively ignoring the actual problems and lack of character, at length, in order to make their case.
Reminds me of that one famous Sherlock Holmes quote. "Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
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Yeah, especially with the Paulie bit. Glad I double checked that 1
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People are really obsessed with design
Concept*
Stop trying to avoid it. If you have nothing on her for this actual SH trait, at least dont change people's words.
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Just go back 4 years. I literally cut and pasted one of his responses earlier, about Pedro. You can't even tell it wasn't about Carrot. Nothing has changed.
In fact, ALL my responses the last couple days have just been cut an pasted, word for word with nothing changed, from years ago. I was hoping someone would notice but nope.
Even the post I just made, where the only change I made was to change 'two years" to "five years."
Aww Robby I wasn't trying to say we don't appreciate you
it's just that even at your most fed up and annoyed, your still one thousand times more polite and civil than Zephos
I wouldn't have asked for your opinion a few pages back (or in other threads about different subjects) if I didn't value it
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I seen large text about hair color and how much time Oda might have put into a design. I didn't change anyone's words. I'm not you
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I seen large text about hair color and how much time Oda might have put into a design. I didn't change anyone's words. I'm not you
Show me where I said 'hair color' at all..
You're genuinely mixing up people's post arent you..
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Show me where I said 'hair color' at all..
You're genuinely mixing up people's post arent you..
This is your second time mixing up what I said. Not everything is about you
Nothing about the designs so far screams "Oda spent a lot of time making this character design distinct in a way that will differentiate them for the rest of the series.
Franky had Popeye arms, star tattoos, metal nose, crazy eyelashes, ace ventura hair, three pronged chin
I'm too lazy to quote the rest, goodnight and God bless
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If you are referring to ace ventura hair, then that's a hair-style not hair-color.
Unless I completely missed what you were trying to say with that quote.
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I don't know which is more of a reach. Paulie, Chimney or Zepo. There were so many more, I can't count lol
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This is your second time mixing up what I said. Not everything is about you
I'm too lazy to quote the rest, goodnight and God bless
Never said its all about me. You're just supposed to take different conversations separated.
I dont give two cents for hair color.You got nothing on Carrots case I see. Good.
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Never said its all about me. You're just supposed to take different conversations separated.
I dont give two cents for hair color.You got nothing on Carrots case I see. Good.
We've gone over 1 part of the case and you've contradicted yourself 3 times. Imagine if we went over everything. I seen my win and know 1 of your criteria in concept. I enjoyed it and let it die, but now you're heckling about something that has nothing to do with you. I didn't quote you. You just thought something that you clearly didn't say was about you. Maybe you should talk to yourself about that.
If you want to talk about experience, dream and other things that Carrot lack or your other criteria, i'm here for you. Until then, I already won on differentiation.
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We've gone over 1 part of the case and you've contradicted yourself 3 times. Imagine if we went over everything. I seen my win and know 1 of your criteria in concept. I enjoyed it and let it die, but now you're heckling about something that has nothing to do with you. I didn't quote you. You just thought something that you clearly didn't say was about you. Maybe you should talk to yourself about that.
If you want to talk about experience, dream and other things that Carrot lack or your other criteria, i'm here for you. Until then, I already won on differentiation.
You did not.. at all.
Since you've failed at elaborating about why is her concept different from Choppers, its the only question I been asking and you kept avoiding it all the time.
So, would you mind elaborating about the reason why are Choppers and Carrots concepts different??
Not design, not gender, not height, not 'my 20 chaps'.
Con-cept please.
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You did not.. at all.
Since you've failed at elaborating about why is her concept different from Choppers, its the only question I been asking and you kept avoiding it all the time.
So, would you mind elaborating about the reason why are Choppers and Carrots concepts different??
Not design, not gender, not height, not 'my 20 chaps'.
Con-cept please.
Yikes, this is getting hard to watch. You want me to repeat what you read already smh. This might be the worst one yet
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Yikes, this is getting hard to watch. You want me to repeat what you read already smh. This might be the worst one yet
Yes cause you jumped into design.. amount of chapter… Stuff I never asked for.
Notice how you just avoid it again? Lmao
Answer please.
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Yes cause you jumped into design.. amount of chapter… Stuff I never asked for.
Notice how you just avoid it again? Lmao
Answer please.
I was speaking with someone else about Paulie and you elected yourself to add Chimney. You are remembering how it started wrong, but this is consistent with your recent actions
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I was speaking with someone else about Paulie and you elected yourself to add Chimney. You are remembering how it started wrong, but this is consistent with your recent actions
Ok ok leave that alone. It dont matter.
Answer the question above pls.
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Ok ok leave that alone. It dont matter.
Answer the question above pls.
Trying my hardest not to call this desperate. You want us to go over the conversation again? Maybe you can try forming a better angle or not contradict yourself this time. I don't see the purpose in restating points. I'm comfortable with the outcome and you aren't, but it's understandable.
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How many other races are there that we haven't seen yet? Big Mom says she needs three races, but one of them is Giants, that leaves two other races
Not to mention a pure breed from the three eyed race
Knowing Oda's love for all things Dragon Ball I wouldn't have been surprised to see a three eyed character join the straw hats as some homage to Tien, but then he threw in that they can read Poneglyphs and that runs to much into Robin's territory so I doubt it
So that means there's two more species out there we don't know about (I mean we know king is one of them but we don't know what he is) knowing Luffy's love of all things weird I wouldn't be surprised if he'd ask one to join the second he saw it
Also aliens exist
What other species do you think could exists? I mean we have dwarves and Giants so maybe elves? What about fairies?
What do you guys think
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Trying my hardest not to call this desperate. You want us to go over the conversation again? Maybe you can try forming a better angle or not contradict yourself this time. I don't see the purpose in restating points. I'm comfortable with the outcome and you aren't, but it's understandable.
Again, Everytime I asked this you came up with design traits, storywise traits, avoid it, or went childish and came up with ' A fUrRy MEmE'.
Youre yet to answer said question. And you keep sistematically avoiding it.
Its almost as if you knew it would destroy Carrots chances completely.Or just answer it. Would be better.
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Again, everytime I asked this you came up with design traits, storywise traits, avoid it, or went childish and came up with ' A fUrRy MEmE'.
You have yet to answer said question. And you keep systematically avoiding it.
Its almost as if you knew it would destroy Carrot's chances completely.Or just answer it. Would be better.
I really want to help you through this process, but I don't know what to say. You're dealing with this all wrong. This is not good for post debate analysis. Philosophy 101. Know what the argument is before jumping in with a Titan. Identify the premises used to back the argument. Use critical thinking and reason to debunk each point. Then hope your opponent accepts their lose gracefully. If not, there's nothing you can do to help them cope. Do not repeat what you've said when it's all over.
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I really want to help you through this process, but I don't know what to say. You're dealing with this all wrong. This is not good for post debate analysis. Philosophy 101. Know what the argument is before jumping in with a Titan. Identify the premises used to back the argument. Use critical thinking and reason to debunk each point. Then hope your opponent accepts their lose gracefully. If not, there's nothing you can do to help them cope. Do not repeat what you've said when it's all over.
Discussion; Can Carrot be a Strawhat?
Answer; her conceptual character idea says 100% not possible.
There.
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Yes, if you believe so. You've finally let it go and that's good.
Not what I believe but what the series says so.
There isnt two members of the SH crew sharing the same concept, and its been like that for 20+ years of serialization.
Carrots chances have been dead since the beggining.
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This a basic concepts guide to keep in mind.
Luffy ; destined child with God-like abilities
Zoro ; Feudal Japan Samurai
Nami ; Witch-like women with weather control skills
Usopp ; Sniper adventurer, wide variety of helpful skills
Sanji ; Gentleman culinary master with royal origins
Chopper ; Humanoid fur animal with several forms
Robin ; Smartass with archeologic and historic interests.
Franky ; half robot, half human, Punk-like personality
Brook ; Ghost themed+musician skills
Jinbe ; Fish-man, water bending powersNot a single overlap in the main crew.
There's a character you like but overlaps way to much with an already member?? Chances are he/she will never join.
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Not what I believe but what the series says so.
There isnt two members of the SH crew sharing the same concept, and its been like that for 20+ years of serialization.
Carrots chances have been dead since the beggining.
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
This a basic concepts guide to keep in mind.
Luffy ; destined child with God-like abilities
Zoro ; Feudal Japan Samurai
Nami ; Witch-like women with weather control skills
Usopp ; Sniper adventurer, wide variety of helpful skills
Sanji ; Gentleman culinary master with royal origins
Chopper ; Humanoid fur animal with several forms
Robin ; Smartass with archeologic and historic interests.
Franky ; half robot, half human, Punk-like personality
Brook ; Ghost themed+musician skills
Jinbe ; Fish-man, water bending powersNot a single overlap in the main crew.
There's a character you like but overlaps way to much with an already member?? Chances are he/she will never join.
How does Charlotte Madara, Orochi or Streussen overlap with any of this and why are they even being brought up?
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How does Charlotte Madara, Orochi or Streussen overlap with any of this and why are they even being brought up?
Are they Strawhats? No. No overlaping then.
You want to make a case for any of them to possibly join? Go on.
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You said that they overlap with the crew and I never mentioned or seen them as possible nakama. I'm very curious to how you came to that conclusion
I never such.
I said 'there is no overlaping concepts in the main crew'.
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I never such.
I said 'there is no overlaping concepts in the main crew'.
Don't run from it now. You said the character I like overlaps with the crew. I've listed them multiple times in the past and now you want to act oblivious to what you were saying. The hole you're digging into is already too deep
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Don't run from it now. You said the character I like overlaps with the crew. I've listed them multiple times in the past and now you want to act oblivious to what you were saying. The hole you're digging into is already too deep
You really have issues at reading don't you?
I quote myself;
There's a character you like but overlaps way to much with an already member?? Chances are he/she will never join
First I say CLEARLY, that if overlaps with a member not with the entire crew. Secondly YOU brought those guys up.
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You really have issues at reading don't you?
I quote myself;
First I say CLEARLY, that if overlaps with a member not with the entire crew. Secondly YOU brought those guys up.
If YOU like them, then make a case for them.Read your own quote. You say the character that I like. I list the characters I liked in this thread and others for years. Now you say it's none of them when I ask which one. I can't keep up with your contradictions.
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Read your own quote. You say the character that I like. I list the characters I liked in this thread and others for years. Now you say it's none of them when I ask which one. I can't keep up with your contradictions.
I said… If you like it but it overlaps with a SH its 100% not meant to join.
Meaning if there are others you like and you think dont overlap, then make a case for them.
