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    • .access timeco.
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      assuming she's not being properly written to join by the time she reaches 150 chapters since introduction lmao

      it took Jinbe 335 chapters lmao

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        it took Jinbe 335 chapters lmao

        Jinbe was introduced in 528, and formally asked to join in 648, that's the clearest writing in a character who's set to join.
        not to mention he was briefly absent from the SH's reunion until they reached FI.

        Carrot's been consistently around since Zou, WCI and Wano, having no hints througout the way, or no proper writing in said direction until now, is highly notable.

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          the clearest writing in a character who's set to join.

          I don't quite catch you here. Future Strawhat is introduced in an arc –> joins within it, is the most straight forward writing and it happened with half the crew.

          I agree on Carrot though. She's with us way to long just sticking along.

          “As I stand out here in the wonders of the unknown at Hadley, I sort of realize there’s a fundamental truth to our nature: Man must explore!” – David Scott, Moon

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            @Monquito:

            Jinbe was introduced in 528, and formally asked to join in 648, that's the clearest writing in a character who's set to join.
            not to mention he was briefly absent from the SH's reunion until they reached FI.

            Carrot's been consistently around since Zou, WCI and Wano, having no hints througout the way, or no proper writing in said direction until now, is highly notable.

            Oh, I see, so you prepared a series of made up rules and exceptions to make your point just work against Carrot.

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              Oh, I see, so you prepared a series of made up rules and exceptions to make your point just work against Carrot.

              Or maybe, if she's not being written is said direction, she's just not meant to join?

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                What kind of roles are left on the ship, besides lookout and cabin boy/girl?

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                  I'm still hoping for an official crew pet. Closest we've had is Surume, and now Zeus.

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                    @FelRes:

                    I'm still hoping for an official crew pet. Closest we've had is Surume, and now Zeus.

                    Chopper/Kabuto ?

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                      @Wintermute:

                      I don't quite catch you here. Future Strawhat is introduced in an arc –> joins within it, is the most straight forward writing and it happened with half the crew.

                      I agree on Carrot though. She's with us way to long just sticking along.

                      For the others, the arcs were not that long, which made Luffy quicker to invite someone to join the crew. With Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji and Chopper Luffy had an impression faster because the arcs went faster and therefore joining was faster. It took a little longer for Franky and Brook. With Jinbe it had taken much longer than with Robin as with Franky and Brook but the difference was that the Jinbe after the invitation has come later. You can tell that there were always differences and Jinbe is a good example. Carrot needs more time for Luffy to get an impression but that's probably because the arcs that Carrot is involved in (before Luffy has a clear impression) are longer.

                      So I would not say that Carrot takes too long. It's like saying that Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, Chopper, Franky and Brook went too fast because it did not take 100 chapters until they joined the crew. It does not mean that Carrot will not become a crew member just because she needs more time. The possibility therefore exists that Carrot needs more chapters.

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                        Chopper/Kabuto ?

                        I mean like a pet-pet, not played for gags and serves the purpose of pet. I know Chopper covers that to a degree, but I like to think of him as doctor first even if the story doesn't always let him have that.

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                          Unless Oda has it all perfectly planned being this a project that's been on his minds for years, then it should be all perfectly fine and keep each character with one number safely.
                          Most likely scenario as of now.

                          are you serious when you said Oda having planned a time schedule and be successful to follow it is the mosr likely scenario ?

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                            If Zeus does stay for good, I'd figure he would be 12, no?

                            Here’s how Naruto should end: Last panel is Naruto standing proudly over Konohagakure. Slowly zoom out to reveal Luffy staring into a snowglobe with a miniature Konoha inside it. Usopp asks him what he’s doing. Luffy replies “Thinkin’ bout ninjas! Ninjas are cool!” and then chucks it off the ship

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                              If Zeus does stay for good, I'd figure he would be 12, no?

                              Sadly Oda doesn't want us to treat Zeus as a real creature (Brook: Sanji, you are arguing with water vapor….).

                              So he's basically like Usopp's Black Kabuto.

                              Maybe that will change, but I also believe that he will return to Big Mom once Nami learned some new tricks through him.

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                                Sadly Oda doesn't want us to treat Zeus as a real creature (Brook: Sanji, you are arguing with water vapor….).

                                So he's basically like Usopp's Black Kabuto.

                                Maybe that will change, but I also believe that he will return to Big Mom once Nami learned some new tricks through him.

                                That makes sense. Shame such a cute destructive cloud might leave:sad:

                                Here’s how Naruto should end: Last panel is Naruto standing proudly over Konohagakure. Slowly zoom out to reveal Luffy staring into a snowglobe with a miniature Konoha inside it. Usopp asks him what he’s doing. Luffy replies “Thinkin’ bout ninjas! Ninjas are cool!” and then chucks it off the ship

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                                  Carrot's card have just been confirmed to be coming out in July.
                                  in addition Enel seems to be coming in two different packs(unless is a mistake), that would be a good chance to see if someone can hold two different numbers tho.

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                                    One thing that's noteworthy is that the Going Merry and Thousand Sunny are getting cards as well, meaning that if they're 11 and 12, there either won't be any crewmembers after this, or the Vivre Cards aren't a good indicator for how many people will be in the crew. (I'm assuming it's the second one)

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                                      I do wonder if Sunny Go and Going Merry will share the same number since it would be pretty symbolic that way.

                                      Here’s how Naruto should end: Last panel is Naruto standing proudly over Konohagakure. Slowly zoom out to reveal Luffy staring into a snowglobe with a miniature Konoha inside it. Usopp asks him what he’s doing. Luffy replies “Thinkin’ bout ninjas! Ninjas are cool!” and then chucks it off the ship

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                                        I think that Sunny and Merry will receive the same card number since it will be symbolic to show that the spirit of Merry still lives on in Sunny. Thus there will be room for one more nakama.
                                        So , I can still keep my hopes up for a bird nakama.

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                                          It would be sad if it was confirmed (in an interview or something) that we will not br getting new crewmates. But I still think Oda could have asked the card staff to not reserve numbers for future crewmates, if he didn't want to spoil anything.

                                          Also, quick question: some people argue that the 10 Blackbeard captains are proof that Luffy will only have 10 crewmembers. But isn't Aokiji one of those 10 captains? I dont recall it well. Will someone face against Aokiji?

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                                            Also, quick question: some people argue that the 10 Blackbeard captains are proof that Luffy will only have 10 crewmembers. But isn't Aokiji one of those 10 captains? I dont recall it well. Will someone face against Aokiji?

                                            The only thing we know is that Kuzan is allied with them. Never said anything about him being one of the captains.

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                                              It would be sad if it was confirmed (in an interview or something) that we will not br getting new crewmates. But I still think Oda could have asked the card staff to not reserve numbers for future crewmates, if he didn't want to spoil anything.

                                              Also, quick question: some people argue that the 10 Blackbeard captains are proof that Luffy will only have 10 crewmembers. But isn't Aokiji one of those 10 captains? I dont recall it well. Will someone face against Aokiji?

                                              Seeing as how it was public knowledge that BB had ten commanders under his belt, and in dressrosa Jesus Burgess was in the middle of telling black beard his opinion on whether Aokiji should include in there group or not, I highly doubt he's one of them

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                                                And then there's Gekko Moria, who is a wild card.

                                                Here’s how Naruto should end: Last panel is Naruto standing proudly over Konohagakure. Slowly zoom out to reveal Luffy staring into a snowglobe with a miniature Konoha inside it. Usopp asks him what he’s doing. Luffy replies “Thinkin’ bout ninjas! Ninjas are cool!” and then chucks it off the ship

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                                                  So the two ships are debuting so there's a few options it could go

                                                  Neither are in which gives us 2 more spots
                                                  One gets in, probaboy the sunny which suggests one more
                                                  Both get in which suggests no new crewmate

                                                  Even if both get in I could see oda releasing 2nd edition vivre cards maybe vivre card 2

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                                                  So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?

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                                                    @Long:

                                                    So the two ships are debuting so there's a few options it could go

                                                    Neither are in which gives us 2 more spots
                                                    One gets in, probaboy the sunny which suggests one more
                                                    Both get in which suggests no new crewmate

                                                    Even if both get in I could see oda releasing 2nd edition vivre cards maybe vivre card 2

                                                    I would assume Oda gets creative here. Just thinking about it, there is a few ways to do it.

                                                    Here’s how Naruto should end: Last panel is Naruto standing proudly over Konohagakure. Slowly zoom out to reveal Luffy staring into a snowglobe with a miniature Konoha inside it. Usopp asks him what he’s doing. Luffy replies “Thinkin’ bout ninjas! Ninjas are cool!” and then chucks it off the ship

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                                                      I feel like Oda's not as involved in the decision making process here as we think he is. There have been several places where easy information -like fruit names- were left blank. If Oda had a big hand in this project, this sort of stuff would have been filled out easily. It could be that the vivre cards aren't really planned to be future-proof and only represent the current state of the manga.

                                                      Purely coincidence

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                                                        The past data files were never definite final word bibles of the series and they'll keep making more as long as they make money. Whatever the ship and 11/12 cards end up being, no one should be taking them as writing in stone since they can always just release something different later.

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                                                          These numbers are completely irrelevant to know will join or not or whether therell be more members or not, as those databooks like vivre cards are patterned to what the current storyline has to offer. If oda chose to add a character to the sh, then that'll happen with oda not considereung these numbers. It s the databooks will adjust to wha development oda wants and not the other way around

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                                                            I'm still surprised speed hasn't gotten any fans, I mean she is a girl and has a really really cool design, I don't think she has a snowballs chance in hell of joining but neither do lots of the characters mentioned in this thread

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                                                              Probably because she's just some minor villain. Not even a right hand man like Monet was.

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                                                                Probably because she's just some minor villain. Not even a right hand man like Monet was.

                                                                It would be like championing Galette or someone like that.

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                                                                  These numbers are completely irrelevant to know will join or not or whether therell be more members or not, as those databooks like vivre cards are patterned to what the current storyline has to offer. If oda chose to add a character to the sh, then that'll happen with oda not considereung these numbers. It s the databooks will adjust to wha development oda wants and not the other way around

                                                                  Unless Oda is not planning to let anyone else join. He said the Vivre Card is some he has been planning for the longest time, and yet we only got it now. It could be simply a coincidence, or it could be that they started it now because the crew is finally complete so there won't be any problem.

                                                                  I know everything points out to the SH getting at least one more member, but there is always this possibility.

                                                                  Personally, I wouldn't really complain. I always took for granted the crew would keep expanding because Luffy's "10 members" and all the SH x BBP parallels, but at the same time always thought Oda could wrap it after Brook because he already have a main cast too big for him to handle properly.

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                                                                    Unless Oda is not planning to let anyone else join. He said the Vivre Card is some he has been planning for the longest time, and yet we only got it now. It could be simply a coincidence, or it could be that they started it now because the crew is finally complete so there won't be any problem.

                                                                    I know everything points out to the SH getting at least one more member, but there is always this possibility.

                                                                    Personally, I wouldn't really complain. I always took for granted the crew would keep expanding because Luffy's "10 members" and all the SH x BBP parallels, but at the same time always thought Oda could wrap it after Brook because he already have a main cast too big for him to handle properly.

                                                                    I think some take the Vivre Card a little too seriously. The Vivre card is not a valuable factor if Oda chooses to add another straw hat. Who really takes the vivre card too seriously … I wish a lot of fun in meaningless discussions, but in the end you should never forget that the manga has the last word, not the vivre card.

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                                                                      I want a ninja or better a kunoichi.

                                                                      Yes I want… I hope she will be called Naruta or Sasuka

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                                                                        ughh, let that alone we're already having trouble to get introduced anyone decently considerable as a crewmate

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                                                                          ughh, let that alone we're already having trouble to get introduced anyone decently considerable as a crewmate

                                                                          I wanna, I wanna, I wanna

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                                                                            I want a ninja or better a kunoichi.

                                                                            Yes I want… I hope she will be called Naruta or Sasuka

                                                                            She is called Onami

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                                                                              with the new epic Ninja spread in this latest chapter I'm seriously hoping Oda wiil soon give us a more traditional ninja then say Raizou or Shinobu

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                                                                                with the new epic Ninja spread in this latest chapter I'm seriously hoping Oda wiil soon give us a more traditional ninja then say Raizou or Shinobu

                                                                                Some of us intentionally stay clear of the spoiler section. Could you please respect our wishes of purposely avoiding all spoiler related info and keep these kinds of posts inside the "Spoiler Discussions" sub-forum.

                                                                                I’d prefer to not need to completely avoid the entire Arlong Park forum for the whole week until I have a chance to buy my physical copy of Jump on release day :sad:

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                                                                                  @Cavendish:

                                                                                  Some of us intentionally stay clear of the spoiler section. Could you please respect our wishes of purposely avoiding all spoiler related info and keep these kinds of posts inside the "Spoiler Discussions" sub-forum.

                                                                                  I’d prefer to not need to completely avoid the entire Arlong Park forum for the whole week until I have a chance to buy my physical copy of Jump on release day :sad:

                                                                                  Oh cool mad over a color spread which spoils nothing.

                                                                                  But hey one of the reasons why the traffic is way down compared to the golden years of Arlong Park.

                                                                                  PS
                                                                                  VIZ is blocked at my country so do I have to break rules and avoid that blocking?

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                                                                                    Oh cool mad over a color spread which spoils nothing.

                                                                                    But hey one of the reasons why the traffic is way down compared to the golden years of Arlong Park.

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                                                                                    VIZ is blocked at my country so do I have to break rules and avoid that blocking?

                                                                                    That was a totally reasonable request from him. Good thing you only mentioned the spread, but he was reminding anyone that the dates for discussion have changed. It has nothing to do with access to VIZ, just which day you can post about some stuff in other places.

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                                                                                      That was a totally reasonable request from him. Good thing you only mentioned the spread, but he was reminding anyone that the dates for discussion have changed. It has nothing to do with access to VIZ, just which day you can post about some stuff in other places.

                                                                                      Yes I was too harsh but nothing was spoiled so no need to remember the people

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                                                                                        Some of us intentionally stay clear of the spoiler section. Could you please respect our wishes of purposely avoiding all spoiler related info and keep these kinds of posts inside the "Spoiler Discussions" sub-forum.

                                                                                        I’d prefer to not need to completely avoid the entire Arlong Park forum for the whole week until I have a chance to buy my physical copy of Jump on release day :sad:

                                                                                        I apoligize, the chapter was out on mangastream so I thought it was okay to talk about it, I guess I'll have to get used to the new ways around here, I'll try not to do it again, I'm sorry

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                                                                                          Oh cool mad over a color spread which spoils nothing.

                                                                                          But hey one of the reasons why the traffic is way down compared to the golden years of Arlong Park.

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                                                                                          VIZ is blocked at my country so do I have to break rules and avoid that blocking?

                                                                                          One Piece as a whole had inflated viewership right around the time of the war/timeskip/strong world trifecta. It had a huge boom everywhere for a couple years there, but it's audience as a whole has died down some since then, even in Japan, where the manga sales are still the highest around, but not as high as they were.

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                                                                                            I apoligize, the chapter was out on mangastream so I thought it was okay to talk about it, I guess I'll have to get used to the new ways around here, I'll try not to do it again, I'm sorry

                                                                                            Don't worry, it's just a bit weird at the moment because VIZ is late. In the future the official release will be so close to the scans (within 1-2 days) that the divide between the spoiler and the official section won't be felt as much.

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                                                                                              Don't worry, it's just a bit weird at the moment because VIZ is late. In the future the official release will be so close to the scans (within 1-2 days) that the divide between the spoiler and the official section won't be felt as much.

                                                                                              Less that Viz is late and more holiday bootleg is extra early. They really should have launched the simultaneous thing in January instead of having all the hiccups of the holiday schedule.

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                                                                                                Less that Viz is late and more holiday bootleg is extra early. They really should have launched the simultaneous thing in January instead of having all the hiccups of the holiday schedule.

                                                                                                100 percent this. Couldn't have launched at a worse time in the year when scanners got this chapter and the previous chapter so much earlier than the official release could ever be. `

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                                                                                                  "Here's our brand new same day service! Oh, but on the second week its going to be out on Friday instead of Sunday. And the third week there won't be chapters at all but the bootlegs will be out that week. That won't be confusing to anyone!"

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                                                                                                    One Piece as a whole had inflated viewership right around the time of the war/timeskip/strong world trifecta. It had a huge boom everywhere for a couple years there, but it's audience as a whole has died down some since then, even in Japan, where the manga sales are still the highest around, but not as high as they were.

                                                                                                    I know that Robby and there is a reason for it some people do not like… But I wasn't talking about One Piece and it's fandom but more about this forum.

                                                                                                    I read your post and know you don't give a damn about traffic that much... But it hurts me to see that not much is going around here... Even compared to pre Marinford.

                                                                                                    Of course I do not want a cluster fuck like another forum... But still I have the feeling that this forum isn't the same anymore

                                                                                                    I know there are more reasons but for now... Let it be cuz this isn't the thread to talk about nor do I have the authority or rights to even say something.

                                                                                                    With this... Happy New Year at all

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                                                                                                      Of course its not the same. What ever is after over a decade?

                                                                                                      It's a forum. People come and go. Once staple posters get busy with real life, new people come in, big events draw in crowds, dull periods see the casual audience shift away, Naruto and Bleach both end so we can't make fun of those the same way anymore… things change. That's life. You go to ANY forum based around an ongoing series and that's going to happen... Go compare the activity on a Gargoyles forum in 1998 to its activity in 2004, then compare that to it's activity now. it's just rare that you find a series that actually runs for the length of a lifetime that has something new to actually talk about week after week.

                                                                                                      One Piece is almost 22 years old (older than some of the people on the forum!) and a daunting nearly 100 volumes/850 episodes long, and it's still got probably another decade to go, and the worldwide community is caught up with it. It's going to be hard pressed for it to ever be as active and fresh or drawing in as many new people on a regular basis as it once did, because its not new anymore, and what is there is a scary amount of backlog for someone to jump into fresh.

                                                                                                      Also, as far as forum traffic, there is a difference between not caring about traffic from lurkers who never post and contribute, and , caring about the active community. They are different things. I do care about the later.

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                                                                                                        Of course its not the same. What ever is after over a decade?

                                                                                                        It's a forum. People come and go. Once staple posters get busy with real life, new people come in, big events draw in crowds, dull periods see the casual audience shift away, Naruto and Bleach both end so we can't make fun of those the same way anymore… things change. That's life.

                                                                                                        One Piece is almost 22 years old (older than some of the people on the forum!) and it's still got probably another decade to go, and the worldwide community is caught up with it. It's going to be hard pressed for it to ever be as active and fresh or drawing in as many new people as it once did.

                                                                                                        Also, as far as forum traffic, there is a difference between not caring about traffic from lurkers who never post and contribute, and , caring about the active community. They are different things. I do care about the later.

                                                                                                        So just tell me… How is OJ still able to simply bring far more people in... Tthe activity even by moderate regulars is way higher and it is still bringing new people in.

                                                                                                        Do not get me wrong... Yeah it is really a shit forums because of it's shit threads and all. But the the point is... A OP board can still draw but I do not see the passion in doing so here around and that you are just happy with "us" being here

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