Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 7 - Wano)

BattleFranky69

Well Brook’s fruit is different since it hasn’t reincarnated… If Momma dies and her fruit reincarnates then that’s a whole other deal... The mere fact that homies were affected by whatver mental state Momma was in Tells me they are way too connected to Momma’s well being for them to obtain autonomy from the fruit itself

That doesn't really seem consistent if they are also so capricious and can act against her interests. If Zeus had been kidnapped rather than going along willingly then maybe I'd believe it but for now I'm not sure.

ImmaIvanoM

@BattleFranky69:

That doesn't really seem consistent if they are also so capricious and can act against her interests. If Zeus had been kidnapped rather than going along willingly then maybe I'd believe it but for now I'm not sure.

I don’t mean she has to have psychic control over every Homie, I just mean the homies are linked to her well being since they are her DF constructs

BattleFranky69

@ImmaIvanoM:

I don’t mean she has to have psychic control over every Homie, I just mean the homies are linked to her well being since they are her DF constructs

Maybe. I still want to know what happened with Mother Caramel's projections.

MiyamotoMusashi

@Monquito:

Teach should be well aware that Luffy coming out victorious from Wano means big trouble for him, since Luffy and Shanks would be a massive power together, meaning Shanks is gonna get grounded right after Kaido, or Teach allies Mama to balance with Shanks/Luffy.

I don´t think BB is aware of the connection between Shanks and Luffy

ImmaIvanoM

@MiyamotoMusashi:

I don´t think BB is aware of the connection between Shanks and Luffy

Yeah but then again Bartolommeo knew about Shanks and Luffy… I guess Bartolommeo is from East blue and could easily just have gone to Luffy’s home town and asked around... But it stands that it’s not actually that hard to find out about that connection if you put some dedication into researching Luffy’s past

MiyamotoMusashi

@ImmaIvanoM:

Yeah but then again Bartolommeo knew about Shanks and Luffy… I guess Bartolommeo is from East blue and could easily just have gone to Luffy’s home town and asked around... But it stands that it’s not actually that hard to find out about that connection if you put some dedication into researching Luffy’s past

Barto´s knowledge about Luffy was part of the joke, he knew things pretty much only members of the crew or people from their background know which was supposed to be part of the joke.
BB is obviously a different case.

AvocadoInTheRain

@MiyamotoMusashi:

I don´t think BB is aware of the connection between Shanks and Luffy

BB fought Shanks back in the day, so its conceivable that he'd recognize the hat. He hasn't mentioned it though, so maybe not.

desa

@AvocadoInTheRain:

BB fought Shanks back in the day, so its conceivable that he'd recognize the hat. He hasn't mentioned it though, so maybe not.

Buggy was unsure about the hat and I'm sure he has a bigger connection to Shanks.. The hat is a regular strawhat it doesn't hve recognizable features from what we know.

AvocadoInTheRain

@desa:

Buggy was unsure about the hat and I'm sure he has a bigger connection to Shanks.. The hat is a regular strawhat it doesn't hve recognizable features from what we know.

Yeah, but Whitebeard recognized it. I'm just saying that if Blackbeard said something like: "Wait… A straw hat... Didn't Shanks use to wear one?" I wouldn't be too surprised.

desa

@AvocadoInTheRain:

Yeah, but Whitebeard recognized it. I'm just saying that if Blackbeard said something like: "Wait… A straw hat... Didn't Shanks use to wear one?" I wouldn't be too surprised.

Because Shanks told him about betting on a new generation back then.

I think if Blackbeard can make that connection everyone over 30 should because Shanks hat was never a secret. And that just seems silly to me. Not impossible but silly.

Kishido

So update me… Who besides Carrot is now in the run here around?

AvocadoInTheRain

@Kishido:

So update me… Who besides Carrot is now in the run here around?

Tama has a non-trivial shot. Although there are quite a few things that directly come into conflict with her joining.

Blissed

@Kishido:

So update me… Who besides Carrot is now in the run here around?

No one unless you genuinely doesn't see Tama's age and near-defenselessness as an issue.

Other than that, all that's sorta left is Hiyori and the mystery prisoner if you're feeling hopeful, but there's literally nothing to talk about atm.

ImmaIvanoM

@Kishido:

So update me… Who besides Carrot is now in the run here around?

There’s the Courtesean. But then again Oda would never upstage Nami in the crew so she has the least chance.

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@MiyamotoMusashi:

Barto´s knowledge about Luffy was part of the joke, he knew things pretty much only members of the crew or people from their background know which was supposed to be part of the joke.
BB is obviously a different case.

Yeah it was a joke but it’s still conceivable for someone to just walk into Luffy’s hometown and simply ask someone and that’s that.

.access timeco.

@Kishido:

So update me… Who besides Carrot is now in the run here around?

Sadly not Toko… sadly...

T

Bonespitting Prisoner.

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Yeah Bonespitter and Komurasaki (FYI I think Carrot is joining btw)

Although I feel like Bonespitter won't join. His introduction is too similar to Jinbe's. I feel like he'll turn out to be someone else, maybe the Legend Oda was talking about.

Komurasaki is interesting. She seems to be a super tall female, which isn't something we have in the crew.

Kishido

@fapfapfap:

Yeah Bonespitter and Komurasaki (FYI I think Carrot is joining btw)

Although I feel like Bonespitter won't join. His introduction is too similar to Jinbe's. I feel like he'll turn out to be someone else, maybe the Legend Oda was talking about.

Komurasaki is interesting. She seems to be a super tall female, which isn't something we have in the crew.

Well bonespitter could be Oden as well… If not I am really interested in this one

But that Komurasaki will be interesting... Kunoichi Onni-bugeisha

LUFFY1fan

@Blissed:

No one unless you genuinely doesn't see Tama's age and near-defenselessness as an issue.

Other than that, all that's sorta left is Hiyori and the mystery prisoner if you're feeling hopeful, but there's literally nothing to talk about atm.

wait is jimbei not in the running anymore or do people just assume he already is part of the crew?

ArmamentHero

@LUFFY#1:

wait is jimbei not in the running anymore or do people just assume he already is part of the crew?

A lot of us consider him as an official member. We're just waiting for the big joining moment with everybody involved.

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@LUFFY#1:

wait is jimbei not in the running anymore or do people just assume he already is part of the crew?

Jinbe is or will be part of the crew depending on your point of view. It's basically just arguing semantics at this point, no point in drudging that conversation along any longer

Kishido

@LUFFY#1:

wait is jimbei not in the running anymore or do people just assume he already is part of the crew?

He is already in we are just waiting for him finally coming on board after it being postponed 2 times now.

AvocadoInTheRain

@LUFFY#1:

wait is jimbei not in the running anymore or do people just assume he already is part of the crew?

The cards name him as an official strawhat, even though the manga doesn't consider him one. We're just sort of letting that play out. Most of us think he'll eventually join at some point.

Monquito

I'd say if someone were to join, it would be someone with an easily catchy name, Hiyori is fine, but Komurasaki is totally out(even tho they could be the same person haha)

Kishido

@AvocadoInTheRain:

The cards name him as an official strawhat, even though the manga doesn't consider him one. We're just sort of letting that play out. Most of us think he'll eventually join at some point.

Could you please send a link to me to the Jinbe card?

Missed a lot? And what numbering has he got?

AvocadoInTheRain

@Kishido:

Could you please send a link to me to the Jinbe card?

Missed a lot? And what numbering has he got?

http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=49887&page=45

Its in the second hidden part of Redon's post. He's #10. Interestingly enough, Vivi was listed as a former-strawhat and is given the number 13, so naturally this gave rise to a lot of discussion about who would be #11 and #12, because previously it was thought that 12 and 13 might be the ships.

Monquito

and we could go on assuming Luffy's crew will mirror Teach's, and 11 would be the last crewmate, so the real mystery remains in 12.

Kishido

@AvocadoInTheRain:

http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=49887&page=45

Its in the second hidden part of Redon's post. He's #10. Interestingly enough, Vivi was listed as a former-strawhat and is given the number 13, so naturally this gave rise to a lot of discussion about who would be #11 and #12, because previously it was thought that 12 and 13 might be the ships.

Awesome thank you. So 2 to go… And now please jump on board Jinbe

.access timeco.

Any discussion on whether Jinbe was joining or not should be dead the moment this happened: https://twitter.com/sandman_ap/status/938769055988596736?lang=en

It's not some TOEI animators who has access to Oda notes, we are talking about JUMP editors openly saying Jinbe is a SH. If there is anyone in the world who knows what Oda is doing and plans to do in this manga are those guys, if they make something like that it's a statement.
For some reason he is not treated as one within the manga itself, but for every purpose outside here we can already see him as having joined already.

AvocadoInTheRain

@.access:

Any discussion on whether Jinbe was joining or not should be dead the moment this happened: https://twitter.com/sandman_ap/status/938769055988596736?lang=en

It's not some TOEI animators who has access to Oda notes, we are talking about JUMP editors openly saying Jinbe is a SH. If there is anyone in the world who knows what Oda is doing and plans to do in this manga are those guys, if they make something like that it's a statement.
For some reason he is not treated as one within the manga itself, but for every purpose outside here we can already see him as having joined already.

I get what you're saying, but the manga trumps all. Oda still not treating him like a crewmate leaves the possibility of him not ultimately joining annoyingly open.

Monquito

That possibility is dead, Jinbe is a SH and no colorspread can contradict it, the manga stated clearly Luffy as Jinbe's captain.

SeaOfHope

Why are people still talking about this?

Here's an answer: Jinbe is recognized as a Straw Hat as of Chapter 863. However, he has yet to formally join the crew.

There, discussion over. Please talk about something else.

FelRes

How about Carrot?

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@FelRes:

How about Carrot?

Future #11

Now we just need to speculate #12 and done.

Pretty sure #12 will be a 2-sword user to round out Brook using 1-sword and Zoro using 3-swords.

I'm waiting to see what Orochi's 2-sword style is like or maybe some kunoichi using swords in some way.

I just think the swordstyles need to be different enough from Brook and Zoro which doesn't bode well for the chances of any samurai we meet. We already have Zoro as our samurai that uses japanese swords. We don't need another.

Zhenja

How about Pekoms?

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Stuck back in WCI last I checked and his DF doesn't fit the numbering scheme

AvocadoInTheRain

@fapfapfap:

Pretty sure #12 will be a 2-sword user to round out Brook using 1-sword and Zoro using 3-swords.

I think 12 will be Tama. I don't think she'll join the crew in the story, but the whole Ace promising to let her join his crew when she's older is too juicy for Luffy not to take Ace's place in the promise. If Vivi can have a "former-strawhat" tag, then Tama can have a "future-strawhat" tag.

T

Bird for next nakama.

FelRes

Bonespitter is Morgans' 2-sword wielding kunoichi sister. Sign 'em up.

Monquito

now that some fruits are switching owner, I wonder if Kuma's could end up in the hands of a SH, I mean, if he's dead or dies eventually his fruit should be available elsewhere, it fits the number thing, and considering the SH have to jump from Raftel to Mariejois at some point, they need it, unless someone with a teleportation fruits gets introduced somewhere else.

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@Monquito:

now that some fruits are switching owner, I wonder if Kuma's could end up in the hands of a SH, I mean, if he's dead or dies eventually his fruit should be available elsewhere, it fits the number thing, and considering the SH have to jump from Raftel to Mariejois at some point, they need it, unless someone with a teleportation fruits gets introduced somewhere else.

I don't think the SHs will just teleport to Mariejois after reaching Raftel. Marineford 2 is located right in front of Mariejois in the opposite side so I anticipate there'll be another war before then.

As for recycling fruits, I think it's possible. Kuma's or even Kinemon's. I do think Kuma's fruit would be a good match with Carrot since she could combine it with electro just to make paw-shaped attacks reminiscent of Kamehameha or Spirit Bomb. She also already wears those gauntlet things to cover her hands.

Monquito

@fapfapfap:

I don't think the SHs will just teleport to Mariejois after reaching Raftel. Marineford 2 is located right in front of Mariejois in the opposite side so I anticipate there'll be another war before then.

As for recycling fruits, I think it's possible. Kuma's or even Kinemon's. I do think Kuma's fruit would be a good match with Carrot since she could combine it with electro just to make paw-shaped attacks reminiscent of Kamehameha or Spirit Bomb. She also already wears those gauntlet things to cover her hands.

but from Raftel to Marineford is still a big jump and I don't think they'll be sailing the whole way back, there's also the "Luffy destroys Gyojin island prophecy", so there will be a jump.
Come to think if Vegapunk could got his hands on Kuma's fruit before 'killing him'(turning him into whole machine), even tho if Kuma cant come back to be himself, Sabo's mission is totally worthless.

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@Monquito:

but from Raftel to Marineford is still a big jump and I don't think they'll be sailing the whole way back, there's also the "Luffy destroys Gyojin island prophecy", so there will be a jump.
Come to think if Vegapunk could got his hands on Kuma's fruit before 'killing him'(turning him into whole machine), even tho if Kuma cant come back to be himself, Sabo's mission is totally worthless.

Too many unresolved issues I think. Namely Bon-chan being stuck in Impel Down and maybe Vivi being important in the post-game. Also maybe in bewteen that time Brook reuniting with Laboon. I just feel like we're due for backtracking through some places and another Marineford war. I just don't see the Strawhats teleporting directly to Mariejois after Raftel. Too many hanging plot threads.

Monquito

@fapfapfap:

Too many unresolved issues I think. Namely Bon-chan being stuck in Impel Down and maybe Vivi being important in the post-game. Also maybe in bewteen that time Brook reuniting with Laboon. I just feel like we're due for backtracking through some places and another Marineford war. I just don't see the Strawhats teleporting directly to Mariejois after Raftel. Too many hanging plot threads.

that's like another 20 years of series…

Bon and Doula will find their way out in coverstories, don't really need Luffy everywhere.

FelRes

There's always that destroy reverse mountain theory that creates all blue and lets laboon come to brook and zunisha find his herd. I'm sure someone's tweaked that one to fit the current plot climate.

I wouldn't put much stock in bon-chaan, dude's a walking deus ex machina who drops by whenever the plot needs him.

ImmaIvanoM

@fapfapfap:

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Stuck back in WCI last I checked and his DF doesn't fit the numbering scheme

Oh how I dislike these “pattern” arguments.

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@ImmaIvanoM:

Oh how I dislike these “pattern” arguments.

The DF numbering rises to a level beyond coincidence, so I'd say it's probably true.

It's not just that each Strawhats DF is composed of 2 numbers but the fact that they sum up to the name of the ship is mathematically improbable.

So the DF numbers are probably true.

Robby

The DF numbering, even if it was originally a coincidence, is something Oda pointed out and and let appear in print over a decade ago, and works out in just such a way (like the numbers adding up to the ship) so it doesn't seem like it's a coincidence.

Naming pattern theories are crazy, (especially since multiple languages, first and last names are all in play) and Oda doesn't give a crap about things like birthdays, but someone having a 2-9 devilfruit can certainly consider it a factor in their favor. He does like making the bounties or number of followers in the fleet work out a certain way, for instance, or having the combination lock on the fridge be Sanji inbetween Nami and Robin. Oda likes his number tricks.

Though with both Kuma and Kinemon accounted for, we're running out of possibilities that fit. Kinemon is a real shame there given that its a completely non-obtrusive non-overpowered fruit that allows for lots of variety and gags.

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I was always curious about the beautiful swordlady with meat as a meat DF could potentially be a 2.9 fruit (niku niku)

I'm positive we'll have a 2.9 DF user but with the open #11 and #12 entries in the databook I wonder if we'll end up with 2 new DF users.

We could potentially have a zero fruit user which wouldn't effect the 325 sum.

I don't know if Oda would go down the middle and give us 6 DF users and 6 non-DF users?

Monquito

but while Kuma and Kin'emon are out, their fruits aren't. we're in the fruit switching-ownership saga of One Piece, so the Nikyu Nikyu is totally at play and run to join the SH´s in any of its current or new member(s).