Chapter 924 : Ha*

Razh

Is the implication that there is some extraordinary property to Kaido's club?

Don't see why not. Especially if it was made on Wano. With the fire splitting swords and everything. Hope it's something more interesting than seastone.

The seastone info explains why Dofla had so much of it, and he was most likely the primary supplier to WG.

That silhouette definitely doesn't look like any of the samurai shown. Looks like Vegapunk's silhouette. Since it seems unlikely it's Vegapunk himself, maybe it's his brother, or something. Then again, if Vegapunk got himself captured by Kaido, it's not like WG would announce it to the whole world. And Kaido did just lose his source of SMILE.

Vegapunk being there might shed some light on the whole devil fruit thing, finally. There's not too much time left for that. And he could also help his cellmates discover how to awaken their devil fruits. Convenient, huh? Not to mention it would give marines a reason to be on Wano. If you think about it, it could all fit nicely. In chapter 905: A Beautiful World, Ryokugyuu mentions Fujitora was on a long trip, and asked how Vegapunk was doing. That kinda implies Vegapunk is not in Mariejois or any of the two close bases.

Last night I suddenly rememberd Sentoumaru, and how he might appear in Wano, considering his name and likeness. And now there's even one more possible connection, seeing how he was working with Vegapunk. And he even appears on the damn cover.

So I do hope it's Vegapunk himself, yes.

Sephi

I am extremely excited to see Kidd again at long last, I look forward to his teamup with Luffy!!!!

Logia

I found the faces too humorous considering the situation, iono.

haploid

The jail guard who was bullying Luffy got got hit by the fishbone from the back. How'd that bone went through the front part of the neck?
Fishbone guy's mouth seems to be on the same horizontal level as the prison guard's neck. He must be about Brook or Kinemon's height.
Could this guy be one of Kinemon's comrades? Somehow, the headdress is somewhat similar to Absalom's. Could he have been caught spying in Wano?

retrobot

@huuvupro:

Kaidou wants to make them subordinates? I thought he was really hell-bent on killing them, though…

I think that's consistent with his behavior and personality so far. He was drunk when he said he wanted to kill them so he probably doesn't remember that he said that or if even he did, he's shown to be an impulsive person in all his appearances up to now like his decision to jump off Sky Island or wanting to attack Whitebeard for example. I think that's what makes the Wano arc very interesting, all the events are very unexpected because of Kaido's erratic moods and spontaneous actions like his sudden early appearance in the arc which lead to an even more surprising early encounter with Luffy.

Lord of Chaos

@Razh:

Don't see why not. Especially if it was made on Wano. With the fire splitting swords and everything. Hope it's something more interesting than seastone.

The seastone info explains why Dofla had so much of it, and he was most likely the primary supplier to WG.

That silhouette definitely doesn't look like any of the samurai shown. Looks like Vegapunk's silhouette. Since it seems unlikely it's Vegapunk himself, maybe it's his brother, or something. Then again, if Vegapunk got himself captured by Kaido, it's not like WG would announce it to the whole world. And Kaido did just lose his source of SMILE.

Vegapunk being there might shed some light on the whole devil fruit thing, finally. There's not too much time left for that. And he could also help his cellmates discover how to awaken their devil fruits. Convenient, huh? Not to mention it would give marines a reason to be on Wano. If you think about it, it could all fit nicely. In chapter 905: A Beautiful World, Ryokugyuu mentions Fujitora was on a long trip, and asked how Vegapunk was doing. That kinda implies Vegapunk is not in Mariejois or any of the two close bases.

Last night I suddenly rememberd Sentoumaru, and how he might appear in Wano, considering his name and likeness. And now there's even one more possible connection, seeing how he was working with Vegapunk. And he even appears on the damn cover.

So I do hope it's Vegapunk himself, yes.

If it's Vegapunk then the Marines will definitely show up he's 1 of the WG biggest assets.

bepo

@Kdom:

Apparently that's how kabuki plays are written. 5 acts divided in 3 narrative sections. The second section is named Ha btw.

thanks for that information

Nilitch

It's interesting to know that Roger, Rayleigh and Oden had conqueror's haki. It might imply that Sanji will have it too, lol

wolfwood

Compared to impel down Kaido's prison looks pretty cozy.

No rivers of blood or boiling vats to be thrown in or nothing

desa

@Nilitch:

It's interesting to know that Roger, Rayleigh and Oden had conqueror's haki. It might imply that Sanji will have it too, lol

Let's wait for Zoro first.

ArabianPrynce

The editor comment at the end of the chapter got me thinking in regards to the theme of fate in OP "those two are fated to meet" and how it could be connected to willpower. It could a typical hype thing that editors usually do, but I still wanna think if there is something more to it .Another thing i thought about is the difference in attitude between the supernovas and why kidd and luffy are the only ones that have conqerors haki.

I think CoC is given to those who are willing to fight against the odds and take challenges head on. Roger never ran away from fight like WB. In the Edd war against shiki, roger faced an armada against his one ship and never flinched and fought him anway. At the end MF,the narrator highlighted that never in WBs life did he get a scratch on his back because never backed down from a fight. Its these kinds of people with that approach to life are the ones to have CoC.The only hole in my theory is zoro since he has these qualities but doesnt have it or maybe he does?!!

Ppl say "will why dont the other supernovas have it, they want to be king to". Will they have that but i think their missing the aproach. Law wants to be king, but he plans and schemes and never confronts the odds head on its why he scholded luffy for trying to fight kaido because law isnt the kind of person to take on impossible challenges like kaido directly. Hawkins gave up and became kaidos subordinate. My theory is that the center of hawkings character is looking at the odds he is the kind of guy that if the odds are too low he will simply obey them and follow them without thinking of doing anything to change it. He probably looked at kaido saw his odds at "0%" and gave up. I think his character arc is going to be learning to fight to increase odds rather than submit to it. Capone also sought to be under BM although he wanted to take her down once again he tried to do it by scheming and working in the shadows but never directly. This mindset applies to most supernovas

DeathKnight

Whats up with the weird Franky / Robin and Usopp faces? Do they have a meaning or just for comedic effect?

Cavendish

@DeathKnight:

Whats up with the weird Franky / Robin and Usopp faces? Do they have a meaning or just for comedic effect?

Reaction to reading in the newspaper that Luffy got his ass kicked and has been thrown in jail.

Razh

@ArabianPrynce:

The editor comment at the end of the chapter got me thinking in regards to the theme of fate in OP "those two are fated to meet" and how it could be connected to willpower. It could a typical hype thing that editors usually do, but I still wanna think if there is something more to it .Another thing i thought about is the difference in attitude between the supernovas and why kidd and luffy are the only ones that have conqerors haki.

As far as we know, Urouge could have it too, for example. Considering how he barged into BM's territory, beat the shit out of one of the executives and still managed to escape from BM.

Wonder what's with Killer and the rest of Kid' crew, btw.

kouch_lee

@Kaido:

The facefaults were golden.

Looks like things are going the way I was hoping. A chance for the other Straw Hats to get more focus, but when we do go to Luffy I'm excited for what's in store with Kid and that mysterious prisoner. The literal curtains at the end of the chapter added to the excitement for some reason, seems grand and official. What a first act it was, I don't think anyone was expecting anything really like it. It had its issues, but I enjoyed its overall structure.

My biggest gripe about the chapter would probably be omitting Law's escape from Hawkins. Overall a ton of things happened this chapter which could sometimes be overwhelming, especially coming off two very short, focused action chapters, and Law's stuff seemed to suffer the most from that.

What he said, basically. I don't know why, but when that masked woman with the shimasen (is that how that instrument is called?) reappeared and the curtain fell, and I saw the "First Act: FIN", I was genuinely excited. Some of us have been mentioning how this feels like a literal Prologue to the Wano arc, like a mini arc bent on establishing the setting, the characters and the main conflict. As you said, there have been issues, some of which have become a bit too common in the manga by now (excessive exposition, corner cutting, flanderization 'cough Sanji cough', etc. . .), but overall, this feels refreshing.

And I also agree with the omitting of Law's escape being kind of disappointing, but seeing the different pieces start to fall back into place is exciting.

Really looking forward to seeing that shadowy figure that spits deadly fish bones. Guessing it's one of the three missing samurai, but I'm open to wathever surprise Oda has in store for us.

Razh

@Cavendish:

Reaction to reading in the newspaper that Luffy got his ass kicked and has been thrown in jail.

Captain Obvious much? ^^;

Is it some Kabuki theater reference or something?

pRopaaNS

One thing that kinda confuses me about Luffy's capture is that there doesn't seem to be any seastone in his cuffs. Otherwise I imagine he'd just melt down and not ba ble to stand up. Or is it?

Anyway it seems as if the only thing truly stopping him there is his injuries from the fight just before. I don't see why he wouldn't be able to blast his way out if he wanted to.

I9829Taeyeon

@pRopaaNS:

One thing that kinda confuses me about Luffy's capture is that there doesn't seem to be any seastone in his cuffs. Otherwise I imagine he'd just melt down and not ba ble to stand up. Or is it?

Anyway it seems as if the only thing truly stopping him there is his injuries from the fight just before. I don't see why he wouldn't be able to blast his way out if he wanted to.

those were probably sea stone cuffs. Still let people walk normally but won't be able to access their devil fruit ability. re.. Robin Enies Lobby or Marco at the war.

SabZ

At first when Kaido mentioned "that brat" with CoC I thought he was referring to Ace. It could be he was referring to Kidd. Kaido seems to be able to see or sense the will of people like other strong fighters have been able to do. I'm interested in finding out who the silhouette is. It's likely to be one of the powerful samurai but I got the feeling the silhouette recognised Luffy. Robin's face haha! And I'm still waiting for Apoo to make a spectacular entrance! That him playing the banjo at the end? lol

Blissed

@$abZ:

At first when Kaido mentioned "that brat" with CoC I thought he was referring to Ace. It could be he was referring to Kidd. Kaido seems to be able to see or sense the will of people like other strong fighters have been able to do. I'm interested in finding out who the silhouette is. It's likely to be one of the powerful samurai but I got the feeling the silhouette recognised Luffy. Robin's face haha! And I'm still waiting for Apoo to make a spectacular entrance!

He was talking about Kid.

Seafarer33

Some good and some bad in this chapter.
The 'HA' faces were golden (does feel like I'm missing the reference, though), but at the same time I'm going to have nightmares about Robin's for years to come. If possible it's worse than Franky in Chopper's body. :wassat:
The Kunoichi's power is… Quite Oda-ish, I love it.
Also, intrigued by the mysterious prisoner in the factory. At first I thought it was Kidd, but seeing how the jailers take Luffy through another door before throwing him in the cell, the fish-eater must have been in a different location.

Law's expository self-dialog on p.8 felt terrible, on the other hand. I haven't been this disturbed by a panel in a while, what makes it worse is that a brooding silent expression would have conveyed the same meaning perfectly and so much more.

Razh

Oh right, to think I joked about Shinobu digging a hole last week.

Watch-man

@Razh:

Captain Obvious much? ^^;

Is it some Kabuki theater reference or something?

Second act in Kabuki is named "Ha"

Razh

@Watch-man:

Second act in Kabuki is named "Ha"

Meant just the face faults. I know that. From reading this thread. Context, man.

badwolf1234

@Nilitch:

It's interesting to know that Roger, Rayleigh and Oden had conqueror's haki. It might imply that Sanji will have it too, lol

That's a big probability along with usopp and zoro since the Conqueror's Haki is manifested yo those who has qqualities of a king with Sanji being a prince and someone in line to be king he should have one. We know Zoro wants to be the greatest swordsman so that could imply being the "king" of all swordsman, and usopp already hinted thru his lies that he would have a Conqueror's Haki someday when he talks to the tontatta about it.

Im more interested with Shinobu's ability cause it seems like she can only use it on inanimate objects and has a side effect of rotting the things away

RigaCrypto

Regarding the mysterious figure in prison, don't think he is one of the three samurais.

https://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/921/9 - this is how Kinemon remembers then and neither has a tophat (like holdem has) and i think Oda sticks to the general outfit of the samurais (Ashura looks the same as he looked 20y ago). My guess is that the prisoner could be the Mink traitor that revealed Zou's location/tracking method and he was tortured for it. It is a could plot development since Inuarashi is here and will give a hand in helping him escape.

Watch-man

@Razh:

Meant just the face faults. I know that. From reading this thread. Context, man.

When you became such an ass? As bad as me almost

Its as simple as nod to Kabuki expressions that are more expressive thanks to kumadori face paint when we speak about real Kabuki.

CHiZZoPs

@$abZ:

At first when Kaido mentioned "that brat" with CoC I thought he was referring to Ace. It could be he was referring to Kidd. Kaido seems to be able to see or sense the will of people like other strong fighters have been able to do. I'm interested in finding out who the silhouette is. It's likely to be one of the powerful samurai but I got the feeling the silhouette recognised Luffy. Robin's face haha! And I'm still waiting for Apoo to make a spectacular entrance! That him playing the banjo at the end? lol

I thought the same thing from reading the chapter. I looked at the spoiler pages, and Kaido definitely says Kidd's name. Putting the second "d" in his name would have negated the confusion.

Do we know for sure Luffy is in the same cell as Kidd? Their panels were separated. He may be with mystery guy…

Razh

@Watch-man:

When you became such an ass? As bad as me almost

Its as simple as nod to Kabuki expressions that are more expressive thanks to kumadori face paint when we speak about real Kabuki.

Been cranky at work all morning. #goals

Figured it was a nod to that overexpression thing they got going.

Little too much in Robin's case.

Shift

@CHiZZoPs:

I thought the same thing from reading the chapter. I looked at the spoiler pages, and Kaido definitely says Kidd's name. Putting the second "d" in his name would have negated the confusion.

Yeah, but it's never officially been spelled "Kidd", has it? The name was always "Kid" with one D.

CHiZZoPs

@Shift:

Yeah, but it's never officially been spelled "Kidd", has it? The name was always "Kid" with one D.

You're right. The guy deserves a second d, though.

KageKageKing

To be continued in Wano's Bizarre Adventure part 2: Battle Ten D. Ency.

Kaworu

Things of note for me:

I'm gonna go ahead and assume Kaido's club is made of seastone. The henchmen put emphasis on the club, and then the narrative quickly switches to seastone explanations.
I'm assuming Kaido saw Luffy's spirit. The underlings were confused, but the unconscious Luffy was "glaring" at him. Very badass and interesting.
We have Kaido casually walking around and saying lines a LOT quicker than most would've ever thought. Awesome tease for very necessary development.
I'm gonna assume Act 2 will be Orochi-centered, yet have battles due to how kabuki plays work.
I got teary-eyed because Oda loves kabuki plays, and found a way to interweave them into Wano. It's beautiful and unique writing for One Piece, very well-welcomed.
The next chapter's quite a wild card. Will we 'interlude' to Reverie, or continue on immediately? Also I don't think each Wano act will be any exact length; 2, 3, & 4 will likely be the longest.
Luffy has without a doubt been imprisoned too much. Oh well, I can't think of anything better. It's already interesting at least with Mystery Fish Bone Guy and Kid.

RigaCrypto

About the newspaper, my guess is that they wrote something like "Monkey D. Luffy, is the newest All-Star of Kaidou's forces" to avoid more disruption among the citizens and to cover up that he is a pirate. That would explain the random faces :))

Razh

@RigaCrypto:

About the newspaper, my guess is that they wrote something like "Monkey D. Luffy, is the newest All-Star of Kaidou's forces" to avoid more disruption among the citizens and to cover up that he is a pirate. That would explain the random faces :))

That would certainly explain Robin's face a little. ^^

BingBang

@ArabianPrynce:

The editor comment at the end of the chapter got me thinking in regards to the theme of fate in OP "those two are fated to meet" and how it could be connected to willpower. It could a typical hype thing that editors usually do, but I still wanna think if there is something more to it .Another thing i thought about is the difference in attitude between the supernovas and why kidd and luffy are the only ones that have conqerors haki.

I think CoC is given to those who are willing to fight against the odds and take challenges head on. Roger never ran away from fight like WB. In the Edd war against shiki, roger faced an armada against his one ship and never flinched and fought him anway. At the end MF,the narrator highlighted that never in WBs life did he get a scratch on his back because never backed down from a fight. Its these kinds of people with that approach to life are the ones to have CoC.The only hole in my theory is zoro since he has these qualities but doesnt have it or maybe he does?!!

Ppl say "will why dont the other supernovas have it, they want to be king to". Will they have that but i think their missing the aproach. Law wants to be king, but he plans and schemes and never confronts the odds head on its why he scholded luffy for trying to fight kaido because law isnt the kind of person to take on impossible challenges like kaido directly. Hawkins gave up and became kaidos subordinate. My theory is that the center of hawkings character is looking at the odds he is the kind of guy that if the odds are too low he will simply obey them and follow them without thinking of doing anything to change it. He probably looked at kaido saw his odds at "0%" and gave up. I think his character arc is going to be learning to fight to increase odds rather than submit to it. Capone also sought to be under BM although he wanted to take her down once again he tried to do it by scheming and working in the shadows but never directly. This mindset applies to most supernovas

Btw where did you got that Katakuri picture?

Kaworu

@RigaCrypto:

About the newspaper, my guess is that they wrote something like "Monkey D. Luffy, is the newest All-Star of Kaidou's forces" to avoid more disruption among the citizens and to cover up that he is a pirate. That would explain the random faces :))

Dude I think you're onto something. I'm gonna go with something similar to this.

wolfwood

@Kaworu:

Things of note for me:

I'm gonna go ahead and assume Kaido's club is made of seastone. The henchmen put emphasis on the club, and then the narrative quickly switches to seastone explanations..

Well a lump of seastone would be pretty brutal of a weapon.

But shouldn't it also drain the wielder as well if it's that size

deltabrain

@CHiZZoPs:

You're right. The guy deserves a second d, though.

He should hang out with jinbe, I hear he's got a second D.

Eh, shark genitalia joke.

Razh

@wolfwood:

Well a lump of seastone would be pretty brutal of a weapon.

But shouldn't it also drain the wielder as well if it's that size

Not if he doesn't even have a devil fruit.

Wouldn't think Kaido would use such a cheap weapon, but you never know.

Watch-man

@Razh:

Been cranky at work all morning. #goals

Figured it was a nod to that overexpression thing they got going.

Little too much in Robin's case.

Well It was shocking alright to see Robin like that.

There was a scene in movie "Baraka"(not one from MK series lol) that you can see below

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This chapter reminded me of it. That must be how Law feels when he tries to make some plan work when in Alliance with Strawhats..

Btw I really like how Hawkings is shown. He seems to be all good about serving Kaido for some reason, he is very much into killing/capturing Law as it was shown.

I wonder who will fight him in last part of this arc and what future holds for him.

.access timeco.

I actually had to stop to laugh at Franky's face. Then I go to the next page and Robin is doing the same thing… you can tell when a face fault is going to become iconic in OP, Robin just made it there.

Shamisen lady is back. I suspect she will never enter the story until the arc is over, she finishes playing, puts her mask down and reveals to be Tama singing the story of Kaido downfall to her public 10 years from now. You read it here first.

Btw, having just rewatched Fury Road this week, Kaido's crew on the basement really gave me a War Boys feeling.

The best part of the chapter to me was Kaido saying Luffy kept staring at him the whole time even though to everyone else he was just unconscious. I don't know if that will have a deeper meaning, but even if not the scene was really cool by itself.

RigaCrypto

@wolfwood:

Well a lump of seastone would be pretty brutal of a weapon.

But shouldn't it also drain the wielder as well if it's that size

It's is probably made out just like Smoker's jutte, only the spiked end is out of seastone, the rest is normal… and it would be about time more seastone weapons to show up as it is the best counter to DF and nobody is using them ffs. Probably Smoker got his jutte also from here by some unknown means (gift from Issho back in the days)

Also, it would be really nice if by the end of Wano, Franky will get some seastones powerups, aswell as Usopp some seastone ammunition cause they gonna need it for everything that comes after Wano. Shooting plants and nipple laserbeams are not going to work on BM pirates, BB pirates, Admirals, etc.

Nidhoeggr

So Oda will structure this arc like a classic theatre play, very interesting. Maybe we will alternate between the Referie, more Wano acts and maybe even a third location for a big buildup to chapter 1000.

bigbadguy

@wolfwood:

Well a lump of seastone would be pretty brutal of a weapon.

But shouldn't it also drain the wielder as well if it's that size

It could be the same as smoker, the handle does not need to have seastone to it.

I somehow believe its made of sea stone, that could explain why Luffy couldn't block it, I dont believe a commander level guy could be so easily OHKO =(

Blissed

@Razh:

Wouldn't think Kaido would use such a cheap weapon, but you never know.

He's using cheap devil fruits, so why not :ninja:

uniaka ikuzakas

@.access:

Shamisen lady is back. I suspect she will never enter the story until the arc is over, she finishes playing, puts her mask down and reveals to be Tama singing the story of Kaido downfall to her public 10 years from now. You read it here first.

Or she is the sister of momonosuke. If she was never send into the future, then she is adult now.

desa

@wolfwood:

Well a lump of seastone would be pretty brutal of a weapon.

But shouldn't it also drain the wielder as well if it's that size

You do it like Smoker: Part regular club for handle, rest seastone.

LightningAce

@Rewrite:

"Connected by fate" I'm more convinced now that Kidd is Shank's little brother…

Except Shanks is from West blue and Kidd from the South blue

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@RoboBlue:

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Remember this?

It's not a total surprise, since Vegapunk's name fits the gambling theme so he is or was probably part of Kaido's crew.

Highly unlikely given Vegapunk is a Scientist for the Marines and Fujitora only recently just got back from seeing him and his latest inventions just before the Reverie started.

wolfwood

@bigbadguy:

It could be the same as smoker, the handle does not need to have seastone to it.

I somehow believe its made of sea stone, that could explain why Luffy couldn't block it, I dont believe a commander level guy could be so easily OHKO =(

@desa:

You do it like Smoker: Part regular club, rest seastone.

Yeah but Smoker only has a tiny nub on a thin stick. If the club is like three kilos of solid seastone on a handle that's a whole 'nother thing no? Isn't there some sort of area of effect on a huge amount of the material? Or maybe i'm confusing things. I had the notion that seastone emitted an aura that effected even without direct contact