About the newspaper, my guess is that they wrote something like "Monkey D. Luffy, is the newest All-Star of Kaidou's forces" to avoid more disruption among the citizens and to cover up that he is a pirate. That would explain the random faces :))
I don't see the need to overcomplicate this. The chapter points out that the news is about their scuffle, so it's telling people that he's been handled, he's in jail now.
Captain Obvious much? ^^;
Is it some Kabuki theater reference or something?
Kind of, kabuki is over the top and bombastic so the silly faces fit in with the theme of this arc being like a kabuki play. I have no idea if it is a reference to a specific kabuki mask, you’d be better off asking a native resident than a gaijin like me.
One thing that kinda confuses me about Luffy's capture is that there doesn't seem to be any seastone in his cuffs. Otherwise I imagine he'd just melt down and not ba ble to stand up. Or is it?
Anyway it seems as if the only thing truly stopping him there is his injuries from the fight just before. I don't see why he wouldn't be able to blast his way out if he wanted to.
That is not the way seastone works also not how the getting weak from the ocean works either. Whenever a DF user falls into the ocean/gets hit with seastone they keep a normal shape we have never seen anyone melt into a pile of goo. The seastone would infact prevent people from melting into piles of goo (if that is there power)
Yeah, but it's never officially been spelled "Kidd", has it? The name was always "Kid" with one D.
People often mistake Eustass Kid's name as Kidd because of one of the two real life pirates he is named after: Eustace the Monk And William Kidd. But we can clearly see on his wanted poster that the names got morphed (as Oda generally does when naming after famous people) into Eustass and Kid.
Real life: Captain Kidd
One Piece: Captain Kid
I don't see the need to overcomplicate this. The chapter points out that the news is about their scuffle, so it's telling people that he's been handled, he's in jail now.
Same here.
Since Franky, Robin and Usoppe were acting on the plan, their face-faults pretty much say:"Our plan is ruined!!!"
Are we really discussing if Kidd is written with one or 2 Ds? Does that matter if you spell it?
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Shamisen lady is back. I suspect she will never enter the story until the arc is over, she finishes playing, puts her mask down and reveals to be Tama singing the story of Kaido downfall to her public 10 years from now. You read it here first.
Genius. I love it.
Did they just confirmed that all Calamities are very big people?
Did they just confirmed that all Calamities are very big people?
Sure they did. To no suprise.
I love that people see Luffy being so small and underestimate him all throughout the series. It has a charm to it.
After that Glare scene.. I do think that Luffy will take part in group battle against Kaido and he will have some of decisive hits.. probably with Morias shadows help. Action of fire festival will take place at night, when fireworks create many shadows.. pretty great set up for Moria stealing plenty of shadows.
Did they just confirmed that all Calamities are very big people?
Pretty much, though I'd be lying if I said that was a surprise.
So caribou would probably be here since drake captures hum wanna know how oda would integrate him in the story.
Also I think either Denjiro or Kawamatsu is the fishbone guy.
That would set up the story by luffy luffy having a prison breakout and letting this guy out.
Also my prediction is that Zoro would be the one going to rescue luffy since he is the closestand he will meet up with killer… The two would rampage and will try to free luffy and kid but drake would intervene since he is the headliner in charge with Udon along with 2 other headliners(1 boy and 1 girl) and then one of the other all-star/calamity will arrive and that will be the end of act 2: a prison riot
Ooh another mystery person!
I wonder what sort of propaganda they were showing in the newspaper, or maybe it was just a dick pick?
How fun would it be if KId is the one that trains luffy in fruit awakening. Either him or the guy with fishbone if he is different person.
So caribou would probably be here since drake captures hum wanna know how oda would integrate him in the story.
Also I think either Denjiro or Kawamatsu is the fishbone guy.
That would set up the story by luffy luffy having a prison breakout and letting this guy out.
Also my prediction is that Zoro would be the one going to rescue luffy since he is the closestand he will meet up with killer… The two would rampage and will try to free luffy and kid but drake would intervene since he is the headliner in charge with Udon along with 2 other headliners(1 boy and 1 girl) and then one of the other all-star/calamity will arrive and that will be the end of act 2: a prison riot
Wonder where Oda gonna go with Caribou knowing about Poseidon plot point. Pretty sure Kaido would love a Ancient Weapon so I'm sure Caribou hasn't spelled the beans yet otherwise he'll gone to capture her himself.
Wonder where Oda gonna go with Caribou knowing about Poseidon plot point. Pretty sure Kaido would love a Ancient Weapon so I'm sure Caribou hasn't spelled the beans yet otherwise he'll gone to capture her himself.
I think Oda made Caribou exactly for the purpose of "the guy who messes up things in favor of the main characters" for when shit hits the fan. Also i'm sure Oda has made his DF specifically for storing something at a later time that only he could do.
Don't see why not. Especially if it was made on Wano. With the fire splitting swords and everything. Hope it's something more interesting than seastone.
The seastone info explains why Dofla had so much of it, and he was most likely the primary supplier to WG.
That silhouette definitely doesn't look like any of the samurai shown. Looks like Vegapunk's silhouette. Since it seems unlikely it's Vegapunk himself, maybe it's his brother, or something. Then again, if Vegapunk got himself captured by Kaido, it's not like WG would announce it to the whole world. And Kaido did just lose his source of SMILE.
Vegapunk being there might shed some light on the whole devil fruit thing, finally. There's not too much time left for that. And he could also help his cellmates discover how to awaken their devil fruits. Convenient, huh? Not to mention it would give marines a reason to be on Wano. If you think about it, it could all fit nicely. In chapter 905: A Beautiful World, Ryokugyuu mentions Fujitora was on a long trip, and asked how Vegapunk was doing. That kinda implies Vegapunk is not in Mariejois or any of the two close bases.
Last night I suddenly rememberd Sentoumaru, and how he might appear in Wano, considering his name and likeness. And now there's even one more possible connection, seeing how he was working with Vegapunk. And he even appears on the damn cover.
So I do hope it's Vegapunk himself, yes.
Man, you almost make me believe this stupid theory can have some well thought fundations… I will borrow Shinobu power to melt them away
What a great chapter. Oda has been on roll with his Wano Kabuki Act!
I really hope the Shamisen lady enters the actual story somehow, lol.
Well a lump of seastone would be pretty brutal of a weapon.
But shouldn't it also drain the wielder as well if it's that size
Kaido's so strong he has to drain his own energy to make it fair. :ninja:
But on a serious note, he could just have the handle be non-seastone. Or he really is just a dragon that can just transform into an oni with no DF (pretty unlikely given the theme of his crew, and him being the "ultimate zoan".) Or it's just something else entirely.
Croc or Enel would never.
Wanna see the "ancient civilization destroyed" thing done really well? FFXIV did a great take on it. The bar's high for One Piece to beat.
Btw where did you got that Katakuri picture?
It's from One Piece volume 4: http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=44675&p=3939956&viewfull=1#post3939956
I wanna make a very very crazy prediction: i know that the mysterious guy is probably Denjirou or Kawamatsu, all odds are toward that but i find pretty strange they are trying to kill this man and not to break his spirit making him a subordinate (Kaidou tried it with Ashura Douji/Shutenmaru at the first occasion he met him in person and Jack himself stated that the ‘strong thief’ known as Shutenmaru is still alive because Kaidou wanted him in his crew). Also the guards heard ‘rumors’ about the person or creature inside the cell, like he was there for so long that the new guards don’t even know who he is. The person inside it seems to be very strong and dangerous (resisted for a lot of time eating poisoned fishes only and is able to kill a man simply tossing the fishbone at his neck, probably just using his mouth). Here comes the crazy stuff: what if this man actually is Oden? Would be a huge plot twist. Afterall we never saw him die, we only heard it from Kinemon, who disappeared few minutes/hours after witnessing the event, only to reappear 20 years in the future. Oden made both Roger and Whitebeard fall for him back in the days, why not a young invading Kaidou (who seems to have a thing for recruting strong people)? Maybe he tried everything to break his spirit but was unable to do it (Kaidou is well aware that people with Conqueror’s Haki are strong willed and don’t give up easily. In this chapter we also understand that Oden was the third Roger’s crewmember with conqueror’s haki) so now is trying to kill him as a last resort. Oden as the ‘fishbone’ guy would be a very wild yet really powerful plot twist at this point of the story.
Yep, argued with BM who gets to kill him. https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/one-piece-2/en/0/907/page/4
Now that it´s prison break time #3, where´s our guy Jimbei?
Kaido never says that he wants to kill him, here, just that he has a grudge.
Man, you almost make me believe this stupid theory can have some well thought fundations… I will borrow Shinobu power to melt them away
Well the whole SMILE thing is a result of Vegapunk's failure with his apprentice, if you think about it. Bringing him now to face it all would round things up perfectly.
One thing I forgot is that he could shed light on what it is that makes Momo's fruit a failure.
I wanna make a very very crazy prediction: i know that the mysterious guy is probably Denjirou or Kawamatsu, all odds are toward that but i find pretty strange they are trying to kill this man and not to break his spirit making him a subordinate (Kaidou tried it with Ashura Douji/Shutenmaru at the first occasion he met him in person and Jack himself stated that the ‘strong thief’ known as Shutenmaru is still alive because Kaidou wanted him in his crew). Also the guards heard ‘rumors’ about the person or creature inside the cell, like he was there for so long that the new guards don’t even know who he is. The person inside it seems to be very strong and dangerous (resisted for a lot of time eating poisoned fishes only and is able to kill a man simply tossing the fishbone at his neck, probably just using his mouth). Here comes the crazy stuff: what if this man actually is Oden? Would be a huge plot twist. Afterall we never saw him die, we only heard it from Kinemon, who disappeared few minutes/hours after witnessing the event, only to reappear 20 years in the future. Oden made both Roger and Whitebeard fall for him back in the days, why not a young invading Kaidou (who seems to have a thing for recruting strong people)? Maybe he tried everything to break his spirit but was unable to do it (Kaidou is well aware that people with Conqueror’s Haki are strong willed and don’t give up easily. In this chapter we also understand that Oden was the third Roger’s crewmember with conqueror’s haki) so now is trying to kill him as a last resort. Oden as the ‘fishbone’ guy would be a very wild yet really powerful plot twist at this point of the story.
That would be a great twist, indeed.
"Connected by fate" I'm more convinced now that Kidd is Shank's little brother…
If that is the case they sure are night and day, Kidd use to kill people good and bad according to rumors. I did find it off that Luffy could use conquers haki while knocked out. Also how would he know when to use it and why would it take so long to activate. I don’t expect Kidd to be 100% but he doesn’t even look 1% more healed than we saw him weeks ago.
I think we just got our glimpse into how Luffy will get his “power up” the mature mature fruit, possibly touch him and Kidd to make there devil fruits stronger and more advanced. Unlocking Gohans hidden power by the elder on Namek.
Remember this?
It's not a total surprise, since Vegapunk's name fits the gambling theme so he is or was probably part of Kaido's crew.
Wow, thanks for the pic. What chapter is it? It'd be huge event to have Vegapunk there.
Apparently that's how kabuki plays are written. 5 acts divided in 3 narrative sections. The second section is named Ha btw.
Nice, thanks for the info.
What he said, basically. I don't know why, but when that masked woman with the shimasen (is that how that instrument is called?) reappeared and the curtain fell, and I saw the "First Act: FIN", I was genuinely excited. Some of us have been mentioning how this feels like a literal Prologue to the Wano arc, like a mini arc bent on establishing the setting, the characters and the main conflict. As you said, there have been issues, some of which have become a bit too common in the manga by now (excessive exposition, corner cutting, flanderization 'cough Sanji cough', etc. . .), but overall, this feels refreshing.
And I also agree with the omitting of Law's escape being kind of disappointing, but seeing the different pieces start to fall back into place is exciting.
Really looking forward to seeing that shadowy figure that spits deadly fish bones. Guessing it's one of the three missing samurai, but I'm open to wathever surprise Oda has in store for us.
Consider at the beginning Hawkins omitted the info about Luffy being in Wano… and now we see Law's free after seen Hawkins takes him with his sword... If it walks like a duck...
I wanna make a very very crazy prediction: i know that the mysterious guy is probably Denjirou or Kawamatsu, all odds are toward that but i find pretty strange they are trying to kill this man and not to break his spirit making him a subordinate (Kaidou tried it with Ashura Douji/Shutenmaru at the first occasion he met him in person and Jack himself stated that the ‘strong thief’ known as Shutenmaru is still alive because Kaidou wanted him in his crew). Also the guards heard ‘rumors’ about the person or creature inside the cell, like he was there for so long that the new guards don’t even know who he is. The person inside it seems to be very strong and dangerous (resisted for a lot of time eating poisoned fishes only and is able to kill a man simply tossing the fishbone at his neck, probably just using his mouth). Here comes the crazy stuff: what if this man actually is Oden? Would be a huge plot twist. Afterall we never saw him die, we only heard it from Kinemon, who disappeared few minutes/hours after witnessing the event, only to reappear 20 years in the future. Oden made both Roger and Whitebeard fall for him back in the days, why not a young invading Kaidou (who seems to have a thing for recruting strong people)? Maybe he tried everything to break his spirit but was unable to do it (Kaidou is well aware that people with Conqueror’s Haki are strong willed and don’t give up easily. In this chapter we also understand that Oden was the third Roger’s crewmember with conqueror’s haki) so now is trying to kill him as a last resort. Oden as the ‘fishbone’ guy would be a very wild yet really powerful plot twist at this point of the story.
But why would Oda show Vegapunk's silhouette if the prisoner is any of the guys whose clearly different silhouettes he's shown couple of chapters before.
Same here.
Since Franky, Robin and Usoppe were acting on the plan, their face-faults pretty much say:"Our plan is ruined!!!"Are we really discussing if Kidd is written with one or 2 Ds? Does that matter if you spell it?
I think this is very interesting because in actuality the plan isn’t technically over like Law said so I wonder what will happen with the rest of the Strawhats as they think that the plan has been destroyed
Kaido probably doesn’t want to kill them because they are stronger than he thought. Frieda didn’t kill all the men he came across he kept strong ones and made them work for him. Especially now that they have conquers haki it would be a waste to kill such a useful person. In Kaidos eyes he probably thinks if they try and rise up I can kill them ie Bardock and eventually Vegeta on Namek. Don’t know why I have so many Dragonball references.
But why would Oda show Vegapunk's silhouette if the prisoner is any of the guys whose clearly different silhouettes he's shown couple of chapters before.
Maybe they share similar features or we just misunderstood the silhouettes. The fact is: do you really expect Vegapunk to be such stubborn and stoic to keep eating poisoned fishes in order to survive or to be able to kill a man only with the mouth and a fishbone? I can’t deny the silhouettes are pretty similar but his behaviour doesn’t fit a character devoted to science, probably really old, to be portrayed as a violent and dangerous prisoner who almost kills someone and burps afterward glaring like Roger at the scene. Don’t you think?
Remember this?
It's not a total surprise, since Vegapunk's name fits the gambling theme so he is or was probably part of Kaido's crew.
Wait a second.. Wasn't Vegapunk visited by Fujitora recently? At the least, the silhouette matches are imperfect. I'd suggest the missing samurai with the top knot. We can't see the knot, but the upward ears and dome shaped head match, if nothing else. Vegapunk would definitely be the coolest choice, though, and I'm hoping I'm wrong.
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Calling it now, I think the guy in the shadow is Gekko Moriah, dunno just his eyes look like his 
Maybe they share similar features or we just misunderstood the silhouettes. The fact is: do you really expect Vegapunk to be such stubborn and stoic to keep eating poisoned fishes in order to survive or to be able to kill a man only with the mouth and a fishbone? I can’t deny the silhouettes are pretty similar but his behaviour doesn’t fit a character devoted to science, probably really old, to be portrayed as a violent and dangerous prisoner who almost kills someone and burps afterward glaring like Roger at the scene. Don’t you think?
We know next to nothing about Vegapunk. So yeah, who am I to say he can't be a survivor, capable of hating and spitting fishbones. Oda doesn't make such coincidences randomly.
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How fun would it be if KId is the one that trains luffy in fruit awakening. Either him or the guy with fishbone if he is different person.
I had same idea in spoiler section.
Btw Kidd will have insane amount of metal at his disposal when he gets free..
They are locked in some kind of ironworks at this moment so if they will break out Kidd will be crucial to their escape.
Wait a second.. Wasn't Vegapunk visited by Fujitora recently? At the least, the silhouette matches are imperfect. I'd suggest the missing samurai with the top knot. We can't see the knot, but the upward ears and dome shaped head match, if nothing else. Vegapunk would definitely be the coolest choice, though, and I'm hoping I'm wrong.
We already saw samurai silhouettes. My point is, why be so secretive if it's another of those. Might as well show his entire appearance. After all, Oda went and showed Ashura straight away.
We already saw samurai silhouettes. My point is, why be so secretive if it's another of those. Might as well show his entire appearance. After all, Oda went and showed Ashura straight away.
Who knows why, but it's something Oda has done in the past. He silhouetted Ryokugyu first during the Doffy speech and then when we first meet him.
We know next to nothing about Vegapunk. So yeah, who am I to say he can't be a survivor, capable of hating and spitting fishbones. Oda doesn't make such coincidences randomly.
That’s true but we also know, from the Levely arc, that Vegapunk was just visited by Fujitora and I doubt that Kaidou, in just few days, would be able to kidnap him, bust him into a cell, make the guards forget about him and not to rise a war against the marines and world government. Vegapunk is probably their best resource. In One Piece you may never say never but I don’t expect Vegapunk to have the personality the Fishbone guy has. My opinion, of course.
Also, if you look at the silhouettes, they share similarities but they are not the same. If you think about it even Holdem’s stomach silhouette had similarities with Richi of the Buggy’s crew and Absalom but it’s because they share lion features. Maybe fishbone guy and Vegapunk have in common to be almost bald and have a long forehead (very common feature in Japanese folklore and already seen in One Piece either, like with vice Admiral Strawberry and Don Chinjao).
What if it's Jean Ango?
That’s true but we also know, from the Levely arc, that Vegapunk was just visited by Fujitora and I doubt that Kaidou, in just few days, would be able to kidnap him, bust him into a cell, make the guards forget about him and not to rise a war against the marines and world government. Vegapunk is probably their best resource. In One Piece you may never say never but I don’t expect Vegapunk to have the personality the Fishbone guy has. My opinion, of course.
Also, if you look at the silhouettes, they share similarities but they are not the same. If you think about it even Holdem’s stomach silhouette had similarities with Richi of the Buggy’s crew and Absalom but it’s because they share lion features. Maybe fishbone guy and Vegapunk have in common to be almost bald and have a long forehead (very common feature in Japanese folklore and already seen in One Piece either, like with vice Admiral Strawberry and Don Chinjao).
That can be easilly brushed off. Might even be a red herring to make us believe it couldn't possibly be Vegapunk. There didn't seem to be much reason to even mention Vegapunk at that time, really.
And by brushing off, I meant there are ways in which Vegapunk might have made it seem like he's at his facility, while he was in fact somewhere else. Could have made a robot duplicate, or a clone, or both. He can make convincing robot versions of other people. Why not himself.
And as for silhouettes being different, it might just be Vegapunk with a different goddamn shirt on.
He maybe went there in his own mecha to confront Kaido, feeling guilt over his research being used like that, got promptly trashed by Kaido and thrown in a cell. It's a joke example, but you get the gist.
One possible way out for Luffy and Kid is Vegapunk agreeing to help Kaido, only to help Luffy and Kid escape.
If that is the case they sure are night and day, Kidd use to kill people good and bad according to rumors. I did find it off that Luffy could use conquers haki while knocked out. Also how would he know when to use it and why would it take so long to activate. I don’t expect Kidd to be 100% but he doesn’t even look 1% more healed than we saw him weeks ago.
The reason kid doesn't look a 100 percent is because the guards in page 14 said that they will work them to death and return so they can push them around till dead, I guess the guards kept coming back to beat him up everyday to break his spirit.
The mystery man being Vegapunk is a bit farfetched to be based only on the silhouette. I'll go with the wild theory Sencho posted cause i think this arc needs Oden's figure to make light on what really happend and to make Momo's succession to the throne viable. I bet he it really is him, he is a dishearthen man that has thrown away his name/pride/hope and just awaits his trial ( considering he is there for like 20y or so).
He will get freed along with the others but his cover will remain hidden ( he probably looks like a bum nd no one recognizes him) and will reveal himself after he sees that the prophecy came true. The crucial information about poneglyphs, raftel, how Wano used to be, Orochi's manipulation has to come from him as nobody knows what really happend exactly. Kinemon and the others have a gist about what happend but they have zero proof. And someone has to rule Wano after Orochi and Kaidou are gone and Momo is far from a possible Daimyo substitution.
That can be easilly brushed off. Might even be a red herring to make us believe it couldn't possibly be Vegapunk. There didn't seem to be much reason to even mention Vegapunk at that time, really.
And by brushing off, I meant there are ways in which Vegapunk might have made it seem like he's at his facility, while he was in fact somewhere else. Could have made a robot duplicate, or a clone, or both. He can make convincing robot versions of other people. Why not himself.
And as for silhouettes being different, it might just be Vegapunk with a different goddamn shirt on.
I hidden my reply in your post :ninja: I think that guy is just one of those 3 strong Samurais that Kinemon mentioned few chapters ago and Oda does not want to reveal him right away.
He maybe went there in his own mecha to confront Kaido, feeling guilt over his research being used like that, got promptly trashed by Kaido and thrown in a cell. It's a joke example, but you get the gist.
One possible way out for Luffy and Kid is Vegapunk agreeing to help Kaido, only to help Luffy and Kid escape.
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I don't think the mysterious prisoner can be Vegapunk, much as I want to meet him. We've heard marines casually discussing his research throughout the story - the latest being Fujitora who apparently met him in person a couple weeks ago - whereas Fishbone Guy seems to have been imprisoned for some time. If the WG's number one scientist had been abducted by a Yonkou, you could reasonably expect the marines to be in quite an uproar. I'm rooting for either one of the Nine Scabbards, a Supernova, or someone entirely unheard of. Oda likes to bring in new characters all the time, does he not?
On a side note, I'm getting increasingly intrigued by the giant gates below the (now destroyed) Oden castle and the secret garden they seem to hide (check the aerial view of the castle on p.9, there's a valley with tall rocks and trees in there).
Kaido looks a lot smaller in this panel. Did Oda screw up the proportions again?
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One of the 3 with completely different silhouettes, you mean?
Why reuse that same silhouette he used with Vegapunk, it's near identical. Only difference can be explained with different clothes.
Consider all crazy and farfetched twists in OP up to date and tell me how Vegapunk being here would be the craziest thing ever. :ninja:
I wanna make a very very crazy prediction: i know that the mysterious guy is probably Denjirou or Kawamatsu, all odds are toward that but i find pretty strange they are trying to kill this man and not to break his spirit making him a subordinate (Kaidou tried it with Ashura Douji/Shutenmaru at the first occasion he met him in person and Jack himself stated that the ‘strong thief’ known as Shutenmaru is still alive because Kaidou wanted him in his crew). Also the guards heard ‘rumors’ about the person or creature inside the cell, like he was there for so long that the new guards don’t even know who he is. The person inside it seems to be very strong and dangerous (resisted for a lot of time eating poisoned fishes only and is able to kill a man simply tossing the fishbone at his neck, probably just using his mouth). Here comes the crazy stuff: what if this man actually is Oden? Would be a huge plot twist. Afterall we never saw him die, we only heard it from Kinemon, who disappeared few minutes/hours after witnessing the event, only to reappear 20 years in the future. Oden made both Roger and Whitebeard fall for him back in the days, why not a young invading Kaidou (who seems to have a thing for recruting strong people)? Maybe he tried everything to break his spirit but was unable to do it (Kaidou is well aware that people with Conqueror’s Haki are strong willed and don’t give up easily. In this chapter we also understand that Oden was the third Roger’s crewmember with conqueror’s haki) so now is trying to kill him as a last resort. Oden as the ‘fishbone’ guy would be a very wild yet really powerful plot twist at this point of the story.
I like your theory even though 20 years is a long time. I decided to check momonosuke eyes and compare them to this mystery prisoner because if he is oden then only his son can have his eyes and they look like a match, both look like an upside down D, his pupils are more like Rogers.
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Well if the doc were to be there then that would mean that it's about to be marineford 2.0 : even fordier. Cause he is the single most important man in the service and it'd mean all out war to kidnap him. And this arc would seem a little crowded with all the warlords, admirals and fleets being jammed in there.
This is one thing I wanted to ask when spoilers came out but seemed that Redon implied that Fish guy was Kid, I'm kinda glad that my brain was actually correct to believe it was a whole different person.
I find fishy that Luffy can't see thru the dark cell, and neither the mystery guy could've seen thru Luffy's bengages, seemed to me they both crossed sight.
how nostalgic, reminds me that Zoro and Jinbe were introduced while captured:ninja:
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or maybe it was just a dick pick?
perfectly explains Robin's face.
That can be easilly brushed off. Might even be a red herring to make us believe it couldn't possibly be Vegapunk. There didn't seem to be much reason to even mention Vegapunk at that time, really.
And by brushing off, I meant there are ways in which Vegapunk might have made it seem like he's at his facility, while he was in fact somewhere else. Could have made a robot duplicate, or a clone, or both. He can make convincing robot versions of other people. Why not himself.
And as for silhouettes being different, it might just be Vegapunk with a different goddamn shirt on.
He maybe went there in his own mecha to confront Kaido, feeling guilt over his research being used like that, got promptly trashed by Kaido and thrown in a cell. It's a joke example, but you get the gist.
One possible way out for Luffy and Kid is Vegapunk agreeing to help Kaido, only to help Luffy and Kid escape.
True, putting it this way that guy can be anyone, especially since one the samurai silhouettes mentioned by Kinemon and Oden silhouette as well wear a straw hat. This guy might be one of them without the hat. I’m telling it from a plot and foreshadowing perception. Nothing hints toward Vegapunk if not for a similiarity in silhouettes (and silhouettes can be really decieving, especially in One Piece. If you think about the original Kaidou silhouette you can get my point). I don’t see the involvement of Vegapunk in this prison scenario, especially I don’t expect Vegapunk to have that personality. As I said in One Piece you can elaborate every kind of theories but Oda always builds a road to follow that’s costellated with foreshadows. In my opinion Vegapunk is dealing with the gigantified children at the moment (brought to him by Smoker, Fujitora is a friend of him, shares the same way of thinking and the two probably meet a lot. Also Fujitora mentioned Vegapunk regarding the Sichibukai situation, a theme that is the main core of Issho himself. I don’t see a red herring but the right character construction there).
That said, we have to wait for the reveal, hopefully in two weeks. If Oda wants to pull a huge twist here i keep telling that fishbone guy = Oden is the more fitting and more intriguing plot twist, story wise for this arc. But I suppose it’s more one of the two missing samurai.
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I like your theory even though 20 years is a long time. I decided to check momonosuke eyes and compare them to this mystery prisoner because if he is oden then only his son can have his eyes and they look like a match, both look like an upside down D, his pupils are more like Rogers.
Yeah, the eyes are the ones that got me the idea, actually. I didn’t mentioned them because, for example, even Sabo and Luffy share the same eyes but they are not blood related. Regarding the 20 years thing: in One Piece we have giants that live more than 300 years, an Admiral that didn’t eat for 2 straight years, a huge woman that can have 90 children and another one that was pregnant for 20 months (and the list can go on and on). A strong guy that can resist in a cell eating a not exactly healthy fish for 20 years doesn’t seem such a stretch, especially if that man is revealed to be one of the strongest samurai of Wano and a crucial member of Roger’s crew. Not to mention this guy is able to kill a man spitting a fish bone right into his neck from a distance, through a cage and with just his mouth 
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Well if the doc were to be there then that would mean that it's about to be marineford 2.0 : even fordier. Cause he is the single most important man in the service and it'd mean all out war to kidnap him. And this arc would seem a little crowded with all the warlords, admirals and fleets being jammed in there.
Not if they don't know he's captured.
And also not if Kaido has or will threaten to kill him if they get anywhere near Wano.
There's plenty of possibilities.
