Chapter 909: Seppuku
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Just because you add fodder before their name doesn't mean your right.
Well then tell who would win between the two sides, yonji's group or pica's group.
And we didin't see sanji use his memory shape armor yet. So far it was like Tony stark fighting without his armors, now sanji will go ironman.
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I just noticed that the big ass conflict to come should include all of the StrawHat Fleet members, with the issue alone of Sai and uhm the dwarf being at the Lev ely, it does seems like Wano-kuni arc will be swittching between what's happening there and the Lev Ely attender's reaction to it.
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@uniaka:
Well then tell who would win between the two sides, yonji's group or pica's group.
And we didin't see sanji use his memory shape armor yet. So far it was like Tony stark fighting without his armors, now sanji will go ironman.
The thing is people are judgind Sanji and Zoro and not their respective enemies.
Oda knows he displayed Sanji as a weakling. That's why he powered him up with that suite.
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I think that Robin will figure out how to turn herself into a giant. We have already seen her make copies of herself and make giant limbs. So turning herself into a giant to take on Sanjuan Wolf would make sense**.**
No way. Only Cyborg Franky is match enough for that guy. Rather think about Franky making a giant robot, Gundam style.
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Do we know why Marco help especially was searched ? I reread 820 chapter and Nekomamushi doesn’t really tell why he wants him to and not any other Whitebeard pirates. Maybe it’s for his healing ability now that we learn about it unless i forgot something (Oda should have said it in the trivia then :-)
To be honest, I was always under the impression that it would be "Marco and the rest of the WB Pirates", with Marco being the one named because he is sort of the leader now WB is dead.
Which was also the reason I was hoping this wouldn't work, since the WB Pirates as allies (and on top of many other allies) would just be overkill. But if it was Marco alone I suppose I wouldn't have any problem with it - on the other hand, if the commanders are all scattered, there is a chance we may find something already living in Wano (people were expecting Izo to be from there).
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I think that Wano is as big as Alabasta. I mean, I very much doubt that the double-page we saw was the entire country. Especially given that we didn't catch an eye on Kaido, who is probably as big as this castle.
And, I wonder if they even need to "infiltrate" the country. If no one has noticed who Zoro was yet, it probably means that they don't even read the news.co and have no idea who the SHs are.
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I think that Robin will figure out how to turn herself into a giant. We have already seen her make copies of herself and make giant limbs. So turning herself into a giant to take on Sanjuan Wolf would make sense**.**
No, it wouldn't make sense.
She is never going to beat him in a million years. Not ever. She's not strong enough and regardless of how much she masters her devil fruit powers.
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Chopper is a real doctor, the others are DF freaks and you think chopper is lame?
Uh. Law is the son of the greatest Doctor in the Kingdom he used to live in, and went to an academy for its best and brightest, and was trained directly by his father. He is a medical genius and one can only truly utilize the full capabilities of the ope-ope fruit if one has the medical knowledge to go with it.
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As a Chopper fan, it sucks that Oda made him seem really lame compared to Law and Marco in the medical field :(
There is nothing lame about Chopper. He's a great character, a genius doctor trained by the very best in a country renowned for its medical expertise, he's got excellent grasp over his DF powers and clearly picked up some skills fighting during the 2 year time skip.
Yeah Law and Marco are way stronger, but they're top tier characters.
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While I acknowledge that a lot of the feelings about trivia panels can just boil down to personal taste, I feel like people are underselling the fact that Oda actually did naturally insert a lot of the expository recap into Marco's conversation. Everything about Weevil and most of the details about Blackbeard are laid out there instead of a trivia panel. Could Oda have maybe been able to incorporate Marineford and the Payback War outcome into the conversation as well? Maybe, who knows. But in terms of the exposition/recap this chapter, it could have been far worse.
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One line of Marco I do not understand completely: "He always wanted all the booze (ok, that's clear, but then…) he never teated us to meals!" What does that mean in context? I can't imagine WB didn't supply his sons with Food. Dictionary sites also gave me no clue either.
Can a native Speaker please enlighten me?He's sort of sarcastically mocking some things he didn't like about Whitebeard, realizing in hindsight the reasons he acted the way he did.
In context it's kind of like those huge feasts Luffy and co. have at the end of arcs. Presumably Whitebeard skips those (only partaking in the booze) to secretly feed that island.
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Today Governor of Kumamoto Prefecture revealed that Oda had donated about 7.2 million dollars for their reconstruction project from a large earthquake.
Kumamoto is Oda's hometown.Oda used Luffy's name for the donation; 500 million yen in 2016, same as Luffy's bounty in 2016 and 300 million yen in 2017.
Kumamoto Prefecture is planning to make statues of Straw Hats as well as Luffy.
Until this news came out today, some people were against the idea of Kumamoto spending 12 million dollars for Luffy's statue.!
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If anyone translates Daimyo into Magistrate they either have no idea what a Daimyo was or could not be bothered to look up the historic or mordern use of magistrate
a magistrate deals with minor matters (looks after cases in a lower court) such as giving permits to sell booze.
I hope this clears things up for anyone confused
TL/DR: Zorro cut a low ranking official/local town police officer.Thank you very much.
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If anyone thinks Wano, the land of Samurai ISN'T Zoro's arc, god help you.
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Zoro arc with a side of Franky pls
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Have you never heard of breaking the 4th wall. Hundredth of artists do that so how can you say avoid it is the first job to do ! The first job of the reader is to not put rules that limit the creativity of their authors.
Haha. This isn’t an appropriate usage of breaking the forth wall. Go see the new Deadpool movie if you want that. This isn’t that.
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If anyone thinks Wano, the land of Samurai ISN'T Zoro's arc, god help you.
Depends what you understand when you say his arc. It's still the arc of kaidou, first yonkou defeated by luffy and most of the supernovas and allies. It's luffy's arc every time, then it's everyone else. Shogun and his samurais are more likely to be the germa of cake island, except these guys will stay with kaidou until the end, not turn into allies.
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@Myu:
The thing is people are judgind Sanji and Zoro and not their respective enemies.
Oda knows he displayed Sanji as a weakling. That's why he powered him up with that suite.
I think my criticism is that 2 years after training, he is weak and needs a suit to power him up a bit. I would be fine if he's had some demonstration that he's more powerful, the only thing we got was him destroying a pacifista like it was nothing. And personally I'm okay with him w/ a suit, but he's not the type of fighter to use tools. He's a martial artist fighter. I'm hoping his raid suit highlights that.
I mean zoro is slicing up mountains the size of cities, and sanji can barely hold his own against 2nd tier big mom family members (oven and daifuku). I don't want this to be a power scale debate, I just want Sanji (and other SHs) to shine as much as Zoro has.
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Weevil is after Marco for the inheritance and also to find out the whereabouts of Luffy. Now that the whole world knows that Luffy is heading for Wano, Weevil may go after him directly(skipping Marco), especially now that Luffy has a 1.5 Mil bounty, which is a very attractive bounty for someone like Weevile (his mom actually).
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I think my criticism is that 2 years after training, he is weak and needs a suit to power him up a bit. I would be fine if he's had some demonstration that he's more powerful, the only thing we got was him destroying a pacifista like it was nothing. And personally I'm okay with him w/ a suit, but he's not the type of fighter to use tools. He's a martial artist fighter. I'm hoping his raid suit highlights that.
I mean zoro is slicing up mountains the size of cities, and sanji can barely hold his own against 2nd tier big mom family members (oven and daifuku). I don't want this to be a power scale debate, I just want Sanji (and other SHs) to shine as much as Zoro has.
agree. Sanji needing a germa suit to power up just make his timeskip training looked inadequate whereas he need external help for him.
Also , sanji would be better off without the technology since that would he is above the technology now (surpassing all his family members who used to be better at him) .Seriously, did oda have some hate towards sanji or something? The treatment to sanji post-timeskip is really bad.
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Not sure how sanji's suit is different from nami. Nami got power up in zou, her stick, power up in cake island, zeus. It's not all about what they learn in the time skip.
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@uniaka:
Lucky enough, I'm immune to anything from Zoro,
That's more unlucky, isn't it?
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The idea that Oda hates Sanji after Whole Cake is definitely… something.
EDIT: I'mma laugh if that's another AlphaMale alt.
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@uniaka:
Not sure how sanji's suit is different from nami. Nami got power up in zou, her stick, power up in cake island, zeus. It's not all about what they learn in the time skip.
It's not about how strong you are but how competent you appear to be. Fraky is most likely weaker than Sanji but you will have a hard time finding anyone crticizing his performance. Similarily Nami might get upgrades but on the side of that she zapped Big Mom twice and help Luffy with Cracker. She doesn't seem to need an upgrade because she is greatly lacking she does for her own improvement. She isn't forced to improve, she chooses to.
Also stick has always been NAmi's style while suit is a recent thing with Sanji.
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I kind of hope we get at least a few more chapters of just Team Zoro before Team Luffy shows up. They spent a bit more time out of the story than the other half of the crew did during Dressrosa.
Chapters 823-908 is 86 chapters without Zoro & co. (81 if you exclude the Reverie chapters without Strawhats)
Chapters 731-805 is 75 chapters without Sanji & co. (65 if you count their cameo near the end of Dressrosa)
Doesn't have to exactly even out, but 10 or so chapters should be good.
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I'm half expecting Robin to do her dual body thing when she gets to the Shogun room so she can infiltrate and find out some info. Would be cool to have Nami become a Geisha too and have them both infiltrate
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Is it safe to assume the Marimo Hats are in Kuri, the Kozuki Clan's domain?
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I'm thinking Wano will probably be a huge country like Alabasta, atleast that's what I'm hoping. One Piece has been missing a good sense of scale since the Skypiea days.
The chapter was amazing, in my head it was all taking place during the evening with these beautiful, rich, warm colors. I'm hoping the anime will capitalize on the beautiful setting and really elevate it. (It is Japan-themed after all!).
The only thing I don't really like is how cartoony it feels. The mountains in the background and the huge volcano look like something out of an edo-period painting or Adventure Time, respectfully. Can't say I'm a fan; I've been looking forward to some more serious, real-world inspired themes after Whole Cake Island's LSD-induced Disney musical adventure.
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Let us talk about how stupid Kinemon is…
He told them to be low profile but completely forgot about Shusui?
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It's not about how strong you are but how competent you appear to be. Fraky is most likely weaker than Sanji but you will have a hard time finding anyone crticizing his performance. Similarily Nami might get upgrades but on the side of that she zapped Big Mom twice and help Luffy with Cracker. She doesn't seem to need an upgrade because she is greatly lacking she does for her own improvement. She isn't forced to improve, she chooses to.
Also stick has always been NAmi's style while suit is a recent thing with Sanji.
Franky is more consistent, but he gets less action, like besides the fight with baby 5 in PH and pink in Dressrosa he didn't get much.
Sanji was much more action then zoro. And while the suit is new for sanji, the other SHs also got new things. Like now luffy can see the future, usopp is now some plants guy like Binz, franky is not really new but looks way different from pre ts, brook now has ice powers.
The suit doesn't make complete sense, other then it was clear sanji doesn't have the body that can take anything like zoro or luffy, and no weapons or fruit like them either. But I think it sort of makes sense how sanji was more close then them to superheroes. Showing up to save people like Tashigi and G5, going to save nami or robin, mr prince missions, feeding even villains, secret identity( no proper Bounty poster), able to fly.
And damn, sanji had some great moments. Like main yonkou ship of BM, and sanji was shooting it down kicking cannonballs at it.
Yet zoro cuts random small building and it's impressive….
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@uniaka:
And damn, sanji had some great moments. Like main yonkou ship of BM, and sanji was shooting it down kicking cannonballs at it.
Yet zoro cuts random small building and it's impressive….
The problem isn't Sanji having zero shining moment but that also have a lot of non-shiny resulting in his overall performance being lackuster to many.
Maybe Zoro would be in the same situation faced with the same challenge but that didn't happen and he doesn't get the numerous stepback Sanji get resulting in a stronger performance from him.
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@uniaka:
Not sure how sanji's suit is different from nami. Nami got power up in zou, her stick, power up in cake island, zeus. It's not all about what they learn in the time skip.
1.) I don't forsee Nami being able to keep Zeus
2.) all the SHs need a powerup minus Luffy, Zoro and Ussop (who recently got haki)
3.) I think it's different from nami b/c Sanji isn't based in technology like nami is. Her progress would seem more natural than an uber armor that sanji got.The problem isn't Sanji having zero shining moment but that also have a lot of non-shiny resulting in his overall performance being lackuster to many.
Maybe Zoro would be in the same situation faced with the same challenge but that didn't happen and he doesn't get the numerous stepback Sanj get resulting in a stronger performance from him.
Agreed. It's nothing that I have against the character of zoro, I actually love his fights. But when you contrast it with some of the other SHs it makes them seem inadequate. They're about to take on a yonko….
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About Rocks and who was in it
I would for it to have had both Whitebeard and Shakky in it. And I want Kaido and Big Mom to have team up to give them a huge blow. It's great because it means Ray ended up with someone tat was in the crew as Whitebeard. And it gives Whitebeard an interesting rapport with the other yonkos since he would have fought against all of them.
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Let us talk about how stupid Kinemon is…
He told them to be low profile but completely forgot about Shusui?
I think Oda just wanted to skip the whole "let's not even pretend at all that the infiltration will work" and jumped directly to Zoro being captured. At least we're not spending 30chapters on the SHs wearing goofy clothes and not going all out because they're scared of the big-badie Crocodile/Ternyubito(admiral)/Hody/Doflamingo
I think there will be some action and story-telling at the same time. Instead of telling us how evil the baddie is for 20chapters straight, Zoro will slash people while Robin will listen the stories of the locals
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So was Zoro going to kill himself or he just wanted to show off his incredibly manly chest?
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Zoro probably didn't even understand that seppuku meant committing suicide
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I think Oda just wanted to skip the whole "let's not even pretend at all that the infiltration will work" and jumped directly to Zoro being captured. At least we're not spending 30chapters on the SHs wearing goofy clothes and not going all out because they're scared of the big-badie Crocodile/Ternyubito(admiral)/Hody/Doflamingo
I think there will be some action and story-telling at the same time. Instead of telling us how evil the baddie is for 20chapters straight, Zoro will slash people while Robin will listen the stories of the locals
I mean, I wish it'll be like thatBut this isnt like whole cake where they knew of the straw hats identities and purpose from the jump. All the magistrates know is some really strong samurai with the shusui attacked one of their own. How fast the news gets to kaido or somwone with the knowledge to investigate could be longer. Or Zoro is found out but the others stay hidden for a while longer.
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I would imagine that Kin'emon's definition of laying low involves not drawing your sword and getting into fights. As far as we know, it wasn't Zoro's fault that he was falsely accused of a crime.
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@uniaka:
Depends what you understand when you say his arc. It's still the arc of kaidou, first yonkou defeated by luffy and most of the supernovas and allies. It's luffy's arc every time, then it's everyone else. Shogun and his samurais are more likely to be the germa of cake island, except these guys will stay with kaidou until the end, not turn into allies.
Simply because Zoro is supposed to become the worlds best swordsman and Zoro is now in the land that prides in Swordsmanship.
Its not JUST Zoro but it is the Arc that will put him to the test and ultimately make him a better swordsman.
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If the fleet has understood Luffy at least a little, what island did Orlumbus just attack? Interested in seeing whom it is affiliated to.
As other have mentioned, I believe that we are going to go back to the Reverie sooner rather than later. Although, I am fine with the way we left off. Wano is expected to have such a rich connection to the mysteries of the world that besides the big fight that is coming around, this will be another big shift in the story, very much like when Whitebeard died.
Saw the complaints about the trivia, but it really isn't surprising at all. This is not for the hardcore fans, people that go on forums to talk about One Piece. This is for people that you have to tell them that Chopper is "…the reindeer in the crew, the doctor" and they go ohh yeah yeah. Even people I have been talking to for years about One Piece sometimes forget about things that happened a couple of chapters ago. Some people couldn't remember exactly whom was going with whom after Zou and that was yesterday compared to the Summit War.
So the rest of the Whitebeard Pirates are unaccounted for. This is turning differently than I imagined. Interesting that Jozu is not shown in the trivia.
The Chopper hate is real when the two doctors he is compared to have overpowered abilities. Hilarious.
Not sure why Marco being able to heal others is a plothole. He says it has its limits, so most likely he would not have been able to do anything about it, not that anyone would have given him the chance to. Akainu would just fire lava punches all around the area. Not to mention Whitebeard would tell him to stop insulting him. From the things we have seen him do, it seems more like he is a physiotherapist than a doctor.
I wonder if this is the point where Luffy sees Ace's grave. Marco sending the message points to Luffy not meeting Marco until after the former gets to Wano though, so I guess not. Whitebeard's homeland is his final keepsake and Marco is guarding it against Weevil, whom in turn is hunting for Luffy to get to Marco. I am not sure anymore where Marco is going to fit in the story. Not sure if they will meet before or after. Maybe Luffy just beats Weevil or Marco hears Weevil is hunting Luffy which makes him go towards Wano. So the message Marco sent with Neko is still relevant before he arrives. Hopefully with Jimbe too.
The options for the message so far: Kaido or Blackbeard.
Cheese scene was great. So, is the legend Luffy going to face Bakkin? Jajajaja.
I want to see the overview of Wano. Looking great so far. The trickster GOD is at it again. Love the Straw Hats alter egos. Robin trying to sneak in, I love it. Franky and Robin smiling while Kinemon is telling them that the government officials are affiliated with Kaido. Finally, we are going to see the Straw Hats break their limits. It is going to be nuts.
I guess the same way Sanji started trouble with Big Mom, Zoro did with Kaidou.
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I wonder if the message mention Ace's tombstone.
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IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
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@uniaka:
Well then tell who would win between the two sides, yonji's group or pica's group.
And we didin't see sanji use his memory shape armor yet. So far it was like Tony stark fighting without his armors, now sanji will go ironman.
Pica and Hyouzou take Yonji group. We don't even know if Sanji going to use it yet. If Sanji does that just proves how far behind he was.
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How is it obvious? Because most of the denizens follow the way of the sword? How arrogant can you all be, the arc which will probably see our first Emperor take down belongs to a character because of his weapon of choice.
Zoro has been built up for so long and hasn't come close to having a worthy opponent. The National treasure of Wano is the sword, Samurai's and their swordsmanship have been mentioned a lot.
This is the perfect island for Zoro to level up. But it won't be the main scene.
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@Kaido:
I would imagine that Kin'emon's definition of laying low involves not drawing your sword and getting into fights. As far as we know, it wasn't Zoro's fault that he was falsely accused of a crime.
It is about wearing Shusui in Wano after all.
Kinemon was apeshit at Punk Hazard after seeing it so it was clear same would happen in Wano.
He could have said Zoro should hide it somewhere or cover it
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It is about wearing Shusui in Wano after all.
Kinemon was apeshit at Punk Hazard after seeing it so it was clear same would happen in Wano.
He could have said Zoro should hide it somewhere or cover it
Maybe he did but it's Zoro his stupidity is only matched by his direction sense.
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How is it obvious? Because most of the denizens follow the way of the sword? How arrogant can you all be, the arc which will probably see our first Emperor take down belongs to a character because of his weapon of choice.
What is your issue ? Semantics ? Of course the arc won't be about Zoro only. Maybe he won't even get a flashback. But there is going to be a lot of focus on his chara-development for super obvious reasons. I mean, hey, it has just started and his sword Shusui is already at the center of attention.
This arc has been hyped many times for Zoro's character. Wether it was in WaterSeven, ThrillerBark, with Mihawk telling him that he'll face great warriors in Wano, or with Kinemon that appeared more than 200chapters ago. -
so , you guys think that zoro might be able to snitch the no.1 seat for popularity poll in this arc?
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Couldn't we have an entire volume of just Usopp's con-artistry and nothing else?
Or a mystical quest to extract that giant pole from zoro's ass and by doing so resurrect the funny green-haired guy who actually interacted with his crewmembers and even had a personality, some 10 years ago irl?
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I've done an incredibly in-depth analysis on this chapter, a whooping 18 pages, there is so much to talk about Wano here. Consider checking it out if you're interested: https://thelibraryofohara.com/2018/06/29/chapter-secrets-chapter-909-in-depth-analysis/
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I've done an incredibly in-depth analysis on this chapter, a whooping 18 pages, there is so much to talk about Wano here. Consider checking it out if you're interested: https://thelibraryofohara.com/2018/06/29/chapter-secrets-chapter-909-in-depth-analysis/
Thanks man. Enlightening as always!
