Praise the Sun!
Title: ''Mom's Birth - The Day Carmel Disappeared''
Chapters Covered: 867
Episode Director: Masahiro Hosoda ()
Animation Director: Kenji Yokoyama ()
Time: 8:30PM EST
Watch It: www.crunchyroll.com/one-piece
837: ''Mom's Birth - The Day Carmel Disappeared''
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I better hear some loud, bloody crunching and slurping, y'know what I means? You knows what I means.
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@Miss:
I better hear some loud, bloody crunching and slurping, y'know what I means? You knows what I means.
If they did so, the anime would get cancelled at once without any leeway. The director and producer would be fired from the anime industry too.
Seriously.
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This just in: no crunching heard. What, this kids' cartoon too good now for involuntary cannibalism? Dropped.
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Cannibalism scene was censored. They were portrayed as Semlas.
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@Miss:
This just in: no crunching heard. What, this kids' cartoon too good now for involuntary cannibalism? Dropped.
It isn't a kids's cartoon by any means indeed. 92% of the audiences are beyond 10 years old, and 70% beyond 20 years old. https://www.f-ism.net/report/image/animemkt2018_digest.pdf
However, even in the manga it's NG to describe those scenes you mentioned directly, so let's never expect the anime to do as what you wished. Indeed the anime was already showed much more that manga.
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I'm pretty sure he was being facetious.
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One Piece Episode 838 Preview
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Toei has no excuse. It is their job to EXPAND upon Oda's work; that is, she needs to be seen DEVOURING these children whole. The audience needs to know what happened! Livers go great with some fava beans and a nice chianti. Done with this freakin' trash show.
Anyway I'm looking forward to hot 30's/40's Mama in her prime. That should be fun next week.
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@Miss:
Toei has no excuse. It is their job to EXPAND upon Oda's work; that is, she needs to be seen DEVOURING these children whole. The audience needs to know what happened! Livers go great with some fava beans and a nice chianti. Done with this freakin' trash show.
Anyway I'm looking forward to hot 30's/40's Mama in her prime. That should be fun next week.
I may just ask you a question: did Oda drew the devouring scenes directly?
Not to mentioned that Toei DID add more details. They showed the devouring scenes much more than Oda did, though not directly.
Besides, lmao at you said "Toei has no excuse". Toei is the company who makes the anime, but One Piece is a show broadcast on Fuji TV. Not only does Fuji also keep the copyright of the show, but Fuji is the one that has censorship standards. When you want to nitpick someone, you should at least know who to nitpick.
I strongly felt offended because one of my best friends attended this episode as a key animator.
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Ofc they will not show something like big mom eating kids, i dont know why someone expect this
In anime like hxh where they have midnight or night slot, i dont remember good, but they dont even show when someone kill kid, let alone showing scene when someone eat kids. -
I'm sorry but anyone expecting the anime to go any further than Oda did… Please. This is still a shounen at the end of the day.
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@Miss:
Toei has no excuse. It is their job to EXPAND upon Oda's work; that is, she needs to be seen DEVOURING these children whole. The audience needs to know what happened! Livers go great with some fava beans and a nice chianti. Done with this freakin' trash show.
Anyway I'm looking forward to hot 30's/40's Mama in her prime. That should be fun next week.
I can excuse the lack of crunching sound because Linlin was not really chewing, just swallowing things whole. But I hope they eventually add a scene with the kids inside her stomach fighting their way out without success because her body is too strong to be damaged… I wonder at which point of the digestion they really died...
At least a scene of them trying to find comfort on Carmel and she just going "screw you kids, I don't care, I was going to sell of you to the WG" leading to the kids mobbing on her and killing her before meeting their fate as they were dissolved by the acids would be a good addition. -
(this is what it sounds like when doves cry)
I'm sorry that you are offended, but I am ALSO offended for an entirely different yet much more serious situation. I watched this episode with my 6 year old brother and when the scene happened he was confused. I then had to explain to him what cannibalism was and that Mother Carmel probably did not taste very well from years of smoking and an overall bony composition. He hasn't stopped screaming and crying for three hours. It was up to One Piece to explain to him what cannibalism was, not me!
Anyway, I wonder what Jinbe would taste like. Not in a sexual way, of course.
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@Miss:
I'm sorry that you are offended, but I am ALSO offended for an entirely different yet much more serious situation. I watched this episode with my 6 year old brother and when the scene happened he was confused. I then had to explain to him what cannibalism was and that Mother Carmel probably did not taste very well from years of smoking and an overall bony composition. He hasn't stopped screaming and crying for three hours. It was up to One Piece to explain to him what cannibalism was, not me!
Anyway, I wonder what Jinbe would taste like. Not in a sexual way, of course.
But did Oda draw the devouring scenes directly?
(Or did I totally misunderstand your words?)
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! Well, this anime ruined tiny floating hearts for me, forever. I didn't think it could ever happen, but Toei did it. Hopefully I can somehow find a way to go on after this.
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I don't get you guys, it happened exactly as the manga, did you want to see blood and limbs?
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@Miss:
I'm sorry that you are offended, but I am ALSO offended for an entirely different yet much more serious situation. I watched this episode with my 6 year old brother and when the scene happened he was confused. I then had to explain to him what cannibalism was and that Mother Carmel probably did not taste very well from years of smoking and an overall bony composition. He hasn't stopped screaming and crying for three hours. It was up to One Piece to explain to him what cannibalism was, not me!
Anyway, I wonder what Jinbe would taste like. Not in a sexual way, of course.
I hope you're just dicking around. This show is not meant for a 6 year old anyway.
The music choice may not be to your liking but everything happened panel for panel as in the manga, intentionally and 100% ambiguous with the audience left to draw their own conclusions. To be honest when I first read the chapter I missed it (was wondering if something else happened that caused them to leave) and when others came to the conclusion I reread it and it all made sense. The hints are rather subtle but also darkly inserted in so when you rewatch the scene it is very disturbing.
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I hope you're just dicking around. This show is not meant for a 6 year old anyway.
The music choice may not be to your liking but everything happened panel for panel as in the manga, intentionally and 100% ambiguous with the audience left to draw their own conclusions. To be honest when I first read the chapter I missed it (was wondering if something else happened that caused them to leave) and when others came to the conclusion I reread it and it all made sense. The hints are rather subtle but also darkly inserted in so when you rewatch the scene it is very disturbing.
lol how was it subtle, you got a panel of screams coming from the island, everyone disappearing upon a moment where Linlin goes bonkers with eating, the birthday table was a wreck afterward, it was really obvious. The next chapter with Linlin suddenly having Carmel's fruit powers and the giant freaking the fug out just made it more blatant. It's only made ambiguous to really young readers who read shonen jump, everyone else should be able to read between the lines immediately.
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… Y'all.
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Jesus christ guys, can't you see they're trying to troll you? Holy shit.
Anyways, I would like to petition that we raise Hosoda to (****) because HOLY SHIT, he has put out some top tier stuff lately (816 and 828 were absolutely amazing as well). I'm honestly surprised that this is the same director that ruined the moment Usopp unlocked haki and countless other important Dressrosa scenes. What a transformation.
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Welp, I almost cried when the "sad backstory tune" started playing. Big Mom for nakama.
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lol how was it subtle, you got a panel of screams coming from the island, everyone disappearing upon a moment where Linlin goes bonkers with eating, the birthday table was a wreck afterward, it was really obvious. The next chapter with Linlin suddenly having Carmel's fruit powers and the giant freaking the fug out just made it more blatant. It's only made ambiguous to really young readers who read shonen jump, everyone else should be able to read between the lines immediately.
Where was the panel of screams in the manga?
And yes the next chapter does make it 100% obvious.
Also, there are some cocky assholes in this thread I'll choose to ignore.
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Y'all are tripping super hard here. Did you not see the symbolism when she was shpwn to have eaten everything and then 3 children give her semla and she eats that. That the semla are noticeably larger. Its more subtle minus the screams but they certainly implied it happened in a rather creative way i feel
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Where was the panel of screams in the manga?
And yes the next chapter does make it 100% obvious.
Also, there are some cocky assholes in this thread I'll choose to ignore.
on phone, but it's that panel where it zooms out of the island and you see AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Anyways I like how the anime did it. The semla imagery was amusing.
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Ofc they will not show something like big mom eating kids, i dont know why someone expect this
In anime like hxh where they have midnight or night slot, i dont remember good, but they dont even show when someone kill kid, let alone showing scene when someone eat kids.It's been a year and a half since I watched Hunter x Hunter, but I do remember it being much more explicit in some instances. But One Piece is not Hunter X Hunter, and as much as I liked HXH, those horror aspects really aren't for me.
I remember reading this chapter and having no idea what happened and then when people started speculating it was like "OMG Oda no" but it was obvious in the end.
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Big Mom for nakama.
THIS. WHAT I. BEEN SAYIN! Nakama Mom >>>> Jinbe
On a serious note, I think Big Mom's flashback/backstory is one of my all time favorites in the series. It's just the right length and not bloated (like Corazon's/Law, for example, which did fuck all for me).
It's a genuinely sad story of an innocent kid with special needs who got used and abused by everyone around her. If she had been placed under a strict and caring watch she'd be a totally different person. Though I can't think of many people who'd be capable other than someone like Rayleigh or Sengoku. Ironically, she would have probably been in better hands under Cipher Pol. or the Marines; at least they'd have a better shot at controlling her and maybe even putting a stop to those blackout cravings. -
I know Im really unfair to the anime crew who did their best… But Miss Saturday is actually being too easy on the Anime's handling of the scene. They played it as a sad and touching scene, not the horror that she ate everyone. Now people will indeed be confused as to what actually happened. Sure I dont want the crunching and blood they wanted but at least use that OST that is used whenever something SERIOUSLY bad happened.
Edit: Or better have the happy music fade away like this
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MAJOR SCHOOL LIVE SPOILERS.
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I doubt it, but maybe the reaction of Streusen could shed more light on this scene.
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If Oda himself wasn't going to be more obvious in the manga, then the anime staff wasn't going to spell it out even more for the viewer and risk complaints for the parents and sponsors.
What the anime did do was follow the manga chapter to the letter and added small clever details with the semla and the hearts.
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Yeah if eating your leg is too much, id imagine people being a lot worse
Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:
So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?
H x H Chimera Ant Arc / OP Manga Spoiler
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The internet ruining people's ability to read things and understand context is sad. How could anyone read Miss Saturday's posts and not immediately determine that (s)he was messing with you. SMH
The most interesting part of the scene is at the very beginning, Linlin seems to inadvertently release what looks like a wave of Haki. If it did what we all know it does, it might explain why there was no screaming in the anime like there was in the manga. Also, that first Semla was a LOT bigger than the others. Probably tasted more like caramel than the others, too…
Welp, I almost cried when the "sad backstory tune" started playing. Big Mom for nakama.
LMFAO!!! Don't you start!
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I love how mountain beard could have easily still attacked BM with Carmel "in his way." That scene is just ridiculous animated.
I had totally forgotten that BM's birthday was the last day that Carmel's plan could fail. Tough luck
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But he only want to kill bm, when he see carmel trying to defend her then he stop his sword, idk what is wrong with this…
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I had totally forgotten that BM's birthday was the last day that Carmel's plan could fail. Tough luck
She was only two days away from retirement!
In all seriousness, I don't have much to add by this point other than wondering if some of you are just being willfully dense (discounting the actual trolling). That whole scene was being told from Big Mom's point of view, and to her it was a wonderful, joyous party followed by unexpected tragedy with all her friends and Mother Carmel mysteriously "vanished", and the music and directing reflected that. If you want ominous music and people freaking out, you'll have to wait until next episode when we see that the fete was witnessed by outsiders. If a guy hasn't been able to eat or implied to have eaten his leg for 18.5 years, no way would the anime go any further than Oda did.
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She was only two days away from retirement!
In all seriousness, I don't have much to add by this point other than wondering if some of you are just being willfully dense (discounting the actual trolling). That whole scene was being told from Big Mom's point of view, and to her it was a wonderful, joyous party followed by unexpected tragedy with all her friends and Mother Carmel mysteriously "vanished", and the music and directing reflected that. If you want ominous music and people freaking out, you'll have to wait until next episode when we see that the fete was witnessed by outsiders. If a guy hasn't been able to eat or implied to have eaten his leg for 18.5 years, no way would the anime go any further than Oda did.
Maybe they'll do a switch around
Like Big mom ate zeffs leg and he survived on that island by eating orphans
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Why did I just read that last post…
OP