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1. I like Law, but BM is the strongest person on the island IMO. Honestly, I´ll be very sad if she gets beaten.
2. Too many panels wasted on crapApoo. Hmm, did one of the numbers follow Yamato as a friend or did I misunderstand the chaos?
3. CP0 so close behind Robin already is good and she hypes them up, I hope they run into The Jimbei and he wrecks them beyond recognition.
4. Sanji running into and not even noticing a pretty girl is crazy. Solid manly talk with Zorobro. Is Sanji growing up?
Hell memories, here we go!
I've seen a theory that the last three numbers (or at least 1 or 2 of them) are transformed versions of the samurai who saved Yamato. If true it would be huge.
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Apart from the boredom that is Apoo and Drake this was a great chapter. Big Mom is always awesome. It will be fun to see her go down.
People like hating on Sanji but the development he's showing is some of the most believable in the series because it's been being built up for years. Nice to know that the Vinsmokes are still irredeemable bastards who pretended to give Sanji the raid suit as a gift but actually just tried to make him one of them.
Also, nice to see the Hell Memories attack again that Sanji used on Fishman Island TEN YEARS AGO!
I liked this chapter. I still have some lingering doubts in my mind about Sanji, but I'm pretty certain everything will get properly explained in due time.
It might not be the most perfect scenario (yet, at least - see Jabra's theory on the spoiler thread for what would be the chef's kiss scenario) yet: he still has his exoskeleton and what not, and also a degree of invisibility powers, but I liked Oda addressing the transformation as traumatizing to Sanji and not just going "cool, I'm a super germa now!".
Again, I pray he loses this and becomes stronger in his own way, not through some unearned genetic power up.
Even if the injured girl is a red herring, I think the main idea is that Sanji faces the horrors of what he might become, hitting that girl or not is secondary.
And of course, the interaction with Zoro was nice.
Oh, and was that last Hell's Memories a way to give that (problematic) attack a new meaning? Now the Hell's Memories that make his entire body engulf in flames is being a Vinsmoke. Or at least, I chose to read it this way.
Last but not least: cool Big Mom panels (as always), the 3 numbers look terrific still, and CP-0 getting on the offense just like that is something I thought wouldn't happen. I'm positively thrilled!
I've seen a theory that the last three numbers (or at least 1 or 2 of them) are transformed versions of the samurai who saved Yamato. If true it would be huge.
Interesting theory. I also saw theorized on Twitter that the missing number (6, I think) was one of the enemies guarding the torii gate. The biggest one of them, with horns on his head.
Nice to know that the Vinsmokes are still irredeemable bastards who pretended to give Sanji the raid suit as a gift but actually just tried to make him one of them.
Same thought here. What seemed like a semi-redemptory parting gift now looks like an evil scheme in motion. Or maybe it's all just coincidence and the Vinsmokes had no idea this would happen.
Why Zoro on that color spread looks Like he just woke up from spending the night with Bepo.
That color spread is great and seems to impy that Shiryu is the first mate of the Blackbeard Pirates. I had assumed it was Burgess since he was the captain of the first ship.
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Phenomenal chapter for Sanji damn
Same thought here. What seemed like a semi-redemptory parting gift now looks like an evil scheme in motion. Or maybe it's all just coincidence and the Vinsmokes had no idea this would happen.
I mean if Judge knew that he could kick start an evil bastard transformation in Sunker with it he probably would have opted to get another superpowered nazi on his side. This seems more like an i didn't know it could do that thing to me
That color spread is great and seems to impy that Shiryu is the first mate of the Blackbeard Pirates. I had assumed it was Burgess since he was the captain of the first ship.
Same. And Burgess was part of the initial 5. It always seemed like he was built to be the first mate. Well, until Dressrosa happened and he became a complete joke. I guess Oda is going for the Straw Hat parallel and wanted Blackbeard's first mate to mirror Zoro.
Said this in the spoiler section, I'll say it again: this is one of my favorite chapters of the series. :wub:
I mean if Judge knew that he could kick start an evil bastard transformation in Sunker with it he probably would have opted to get another superpowered nazi on his side. This seems more like an i didn't know it could do that thing to me
I don't know. It seems consistent with Judge's philosophy, that I find sometimes shared by people on this board. And that is: "My kids being superhuman makes up for the abuse". So I'd say there is a chance that Judge thought he was paying Sanji back through this Trojan Horse, because hey, being invincible has its perks.
On a side-note, I was watching the Teddy Perkins episode from FX's Atlanta yesterday and it made me think of this Judge/Sanji situation.
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Timelapse of making the Colorspread. Interesting that at some point it was supposed to be a Zoro-centric "swordsmen of OP" before it evolved into "2nd strongest of each crew".
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I wonder who the two characters he got rid of to make more space for Bepo are (bottom left and right corners)
(or maybe they were just generic chars to fill up space momentarily and see how the whole looked)
But i mean why bother blackmailing him and putting him in explodey cuffs if you could just make him wear a raid suit and transform him into a proper goose stepping Vinsmoke.
But i mean why bother blackmailing him and putting him in explodey cuffs if you could just make him wear a raid suit and transform him into a proper goose stepping Vinsmoke.
Yep that's a good point.
3 possibilities i can think of:
Judge didn't think Sanji was even worthy of his invention until he saved them (and had other plans for him), and at that point he had no control over what he would do. He gave him the suit as what he would consider a benevolent act;
The suit doesn't actually modify emotions and Sanji is just confused atm. Meaning Judge knew that even through the awakening of his powers, Sanji would have been of no use to him, since he doesn't share the evil mentality;
The suit does make Sanji emotionless but Judge doesn't know, in which case we're brought back to possibility 2 to explain this. Speaking of which, is it said that Judge's modifications made the Germa-bros physically incapable of having compassion or is it just a consequence of their super-strength? Like how people get drunk on power and become awful. Or how people used to power are often awful. Would explain Reiju, somehow.
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I wonder who the two characters he got rid of to make more space for Bepo are (bottom left and right corners)
(or maybe they were just generic chars to fill up space momentarily and see how the whole looked)
That's Vito and Daz Bones.
I wonder if Kishido is alright.
Sanji and Zoro really have an unspoken bro bond.
I wonder if Kishido is alright.
He was super alright in the spoiler thread.
He even was the first to point out Sanji's eyebrows changed direction in this chapter. (A fact no one mentioned so far in this thread).
That color spread is great and seems to impy that Shiryu is the first mate of the Blackbeard Pirates. I had assumed it was Burgess since he was the captain of the first ship.
Going by how he´s the only one we´ve seen "perform" in the story beside Teach so far, judging by how he got destroyed by Sabo and given his skip legday build, I see him more suited to fight a mid-tier SH like Franky the brawler than somebody from the monster pack.
Unless he eats an overpowered devil fruit that enables him to transform into a metalman (think Colossus from X-Men), further boosting his offensive and defensive stats.
Those three pairings seem as clear as Robin vs Maria was, at least to me. Hmm, then again, we have no clue what Stronger is capable of, if anything. Could be a nice team-up with Nami then.
If Yamato joins, she could be an ideal oponent for Catarina, another mythical zoan weapon user. If not, Nami will probably fight her.
Robin fights Corrupt King Pizarro.
Jimbei fights one of the two largest, Battleship Wolf or Vasco Shot.
If Aokiji is actually a BB thing, he´d be a great oponent for Sanji. If not, Sanji gets the other big dude.
Only issue I have with BB pirates is that at this point in the story the Strawhats seem more menacing.
Anyway, this was kinda off-topic, what else about the chapter. I found it interesting that Sanji sped up so much that even a Yonkou commander couldn´t follow his movement (making it seem like he was using his invisibility suit). Pretty neat feat.
I think Sanji's "science power" is now a switch that can essentially be turned on and off but he doesn't know how to do it yet. Something like that would be very striking for Sanji because until now it seems like Oda had been emphasizing his lack of strength along with his kindness, but if he can flip a switch that completely turns off his kindness in exchange for raw power it could let him fight powerful enemies with added drama of not only attacking women but possibly crewmates as well.
Wasn't one of them Zoro's father or uncle or whatever? That would be mega awkward
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So if i'm not mixing things up the numbers were created by Vegapunk, so doesn't that mean that the punk would have to take time out of his full mad science schedule to to turn Zoros dad into a gonk-lite gigant?
So if i'm not mixing things up the numbers were created by Vegapunk, so doesn't that mean that the punk would have to take time out of his full mad science schedule to to turn Zoros dad into a gonk-lite gigant?
We know the Government has been doing gigantification experiments in Punk Hazard for centuries, and that Hacha is over 180 years old. So, I don't think we can say for use that Vegapunk created the Numbers. The experiments in that island are not limited to one person's lifespan. (And we know Judge and Queen worked with Vegapunk before he was recruited by the government).
Nice chapter. Mostly the second half for me which is full of great Sanji stuff.
The color page was meh but also an odd format. The full bottom should have been use for Zoro and Bepo or everyone should have gotten panel. The spread next being next to 2 panels just make for weird aesthetic. Or at least put it in the center with a panel on each side. Very odd. Also 2 standouts instead 1 or 3 is odd. Very odd cover for me.
The Appoo Drake ,Yamato part was wathever
Steal beam being able to hurt Big Mom is silly. Seems like Big Mom is getting to the next level. But since Oda wont let her kill Kidd already no matter how many time she body smash him with a sword I dont know what changes. But it does look cool. I just hope it doesnt mean she's gonna lose cause I wont like that. I also find odd that eating souls give her a powerup since I assume souls were for sentience and also that apparently souls have different values.
I am a massive fan of the Sanji sections of the section with Sanji. I am a big fan of how distress he is at the idea of becoming Germa and him destroying the suit so it cant ever happen or at least he destroy the ony thing he can stop. Him considering if Luffy would want a better fighter that doesnt have a problem hitting women is an angle I didnt think about and really like. Being Vulnerable to Zoro is a pretty un-Sanji thing to do and that makes it great plus he looked cool lighting his cigarette. And Zoro simple answer to that demand is a great way to end that scene.
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Same thought here. What seemed like a semi-redemptory parting gift now looks like an evil scheme in motion. Or maybe it's all just coincidence and the Vinsmokes had no idea this would happen.
That would be a weird evil scheme. Its not like Judge see his power up as evil science. The exoskeleton and the suit would both just be power ups from his point of view.
I think the suit simply improved the special genes and since every test from the doctor said he was normal and Judge didnt give him one since it would be a waste on him. And post whole came he decided to give Sanji a chance to be stronger.
If anything Judge would just be banging his head he let him escape back then since there actually was still hope to make him proper Germa back then.
I still would like to know if Judge was in on it or if the siblings acted on their own when they gave him the raid suit. I'd like to think it's the latter.
I'm not convinced the awakening was part of their plan in either case. If they knew they could salvage the Germa "failure" they wouldn't have just gave Sanji away to Big Mom.
Anyway, the Sanji part of the chapter was fantastic. I can't wait to see how that plot ends.
Here’s my problem with Sanji, ok he has an identity crisis but you’re in the middle of a life and death battle, can’t you focus on the battle, use these power ups to help yourself and your friends and then deal with your identity crisis afterwards?. Right now Robin is in terrible danger and bastard Sanji is wasting time on this Id crisis. Who knows what could happen to Robin if she gets caught and a big blame would go to Sanji if. Sanji has become very unreliable and I’m very much counting WCI aside from now. Zoro has always been Luffy’s right hand and you know why is that, well you know many different reasons tangible and intangible that I don’t care to explain. The thought that this confused troublemaker wanted to steal Zoro’s moment as Luffy’s right hand on the Kuma incident, is irritating. This unreliable confused Simp.
Here’s my problem with Sanji, ok he has an identity crisis but you’re in the middle of a life and death battle, can’t you focus on the battle, use these power ups to help yourself and your friends and then deal with your identity crisis afterwards?. Right now Robin is in terrible danger and bastard Sanji is wasting time on this Id crisis. Who knows what could happen to Robin if she gets caught and a big blame would go to Sanji if. Sanji has become very unreliable and I’m very much counting WCI aside from now. Zoro has always been Luffy’s right hand and you know why is that, well you know many different reasons tangible and intangible that I don’t care to explain. The thought that this confused troublemaker wanted to steal Zoro’s moment as Luffy’s right hand on the Kuma incident, is irritating. This unreliable confused Simp.
He literally put his "identity crisis" aside to beat up Queen using Hell's Memories??
He literally put his "identity crisis" aside to beat up Queen using Hell's Memories??
He did it after wasting time and destroyed a powerful power up that could have speeded this battle so he could quickly go and rescue Robin.
He did it after wasting time and destroyed a powerful power up that could have speeded this battle so he could quickly go and rescue Robin.
He doesn't know Robin is in danger, though? He's in a different area of Onigashima.
Here’s my problem with Sanji, ok he has an identity crisis but you’re in the middle of a life and death battle, can’t you focus on the battle, use these power ups to help yourself and your friends and then deal with your identity crisis afterwards?. Right now Robin is in terrible danger and bastard Sanji is wasting time on this Id crisis. Who knows what could happen to Robin if she gets caught and a big blame would go to Sanji if. Sanji has become very unreliable and I’m very much counting WCI aside from now. Zoro has always been Luffy’s right hand and you know why is that, well you know many different reasons tangible and intangible that I don’t care to explain. The thought that this confused troublemaker wanted to steal Zoro’s moment as Luffy’s right hand on the Kuma incident, is irritating. This unreliable confused Simp.
God forbid a character has an emotional moment and is unable to think straight when something shocking that is deemed as negative by the character happened to him. Easy for the readers, looking from the outside as spectators, to say "Just focus on the battle, dude". You said "can't you focus on the battle", right? Try to think. Taking into consideration his past circumstances, CAN HE, after that?
I swear, some portion of the fanbase really think that characters are just not allowed to have emotions and some realistic approach anymore, they just have to be a "cool action figure" 24/7.
Sanji assumes that the raid suit will rob him of his human side.
If the safety of Robin is your concern, or the safety of any crewmember, how much do you think Evilji would care about them being in danger in the first place?
He would let them die with a smirk on his face, unless he gets the literal order from Luffy to act. That's the very likely consequence he's afraid of. Totally incomparable to the Enies Lobby fiasko.
The moustache Number being Zoro's dad is too hilarious, I wouldn't be able to handle that. Like do we imagine some sort of Attack on Titan conversation between them through grunting and panting and spinal fluid telepathy?
So Sanji can now use Stealth same way that Niji was shown turning invisible without his Germa Battle Suit?
Or Nijis stealth was like using Soru to get behind Sanji?? Because it had same sound effect as when Sanji dissapeared to attack Oven.
Also either that girl attacked Sanji and got hurt as that attack backfired at her or another part of Germa modification is that person counters someone attacking as a reflex of body, doesnt matter who that attacking person is. Otherwise I dont see how that scene could make any sense for Sanji just kicking away presumably harmless woman.
Another good chapter.
Like others have said, it would be interesting to find out if all the stuff going on with Sanji was Judges plan all along, and if it was, why? Did he just want to screw over Sanji one final time, or, if he continued to use the super suit, would Sanji have ended up so Genma-fied he would've returned to his family?
Sadly, I don't think it'll ever be explained unless it comes up in an SBS.
Also not too sure where the Big Mom fight is going, I don't see her losing or winning, but a draw seems off the table too now, unless there's a serious interruption.
So Sanji can now use Stealth same way that Niji was shown turning invisible without his Germa Battle Suit?.
Niji's SFX shows speed, not invisibility, while Sanji's SFX implies invisibility.
What happens is that all of them have the same powers of their respective suit in their base form, but the suit amplifies them.
Niji's SFX shows speed, not invisibility, while Sanji's SFX implies invisibility.
What happens is that all of them have the same powers of their respective suit in their base form, but the suit amplifies them.
So Sanji likely having short moments of invisibility even without his suit? Huh.. interesting and less overpowered than what he shown with his suit on.
Also now I really wonder if part of Judge modifications is "block any attack attempt you can". Like auto blocking in a way.. this situation with a girl bothers me, I hooe Oda will clarify it in next chapter or two.
lol i like how with these Sanji changes happening his eyebrows flipped from "e" to "9"
Not the biggest fan of what Sanji's going through, but destroying the raid suit was a nice surprise. It was cool but this fits his character much better.
Otherwise enjoyed the chapter, it's always a joy to see the supernovas. I'd be happy to see Law and Kidd beat Big Mom.
The colour spread was really cool as well. Very happy to see it focus on other characters, and it's nice confirmation of who the second ranked is of each crew. I'm a bit said Burgess isn't Blackbeard's second, Shiryu makes more sense in terms of strength (and it makes more sense for the inevitable Zoro match up) but he just isn't half as memorable.
Well, we're about halfway through volume 102 and… am I dreaming? Is this... actually compelling character development for Sanji? That addresses the issues his women problems have created? Oda must think it's my birthday or something. Anyway, the colour spread is a little bit of a miss for me. Love seeing more character variety in these things, but I'd rather have the usual style of them all hanging out or doing something rather than all these separate panels. Bepo goes a long way to salvage it though. And it is nice seeing a greater variety of characters than just the Strawhats in these things. But how mean is it to put a Zoro colour spread on what is essentially a Sanji chapter? The guy really can't catch a break.
Big Mom is looking like a true monster in this chapter. People have been quick to say the Emperors don't feel threatening enough in this arc, but I think Oda's figured that feeling out. Law and Kid have both pulled out the kind of upgrade that would be a fight ender in most other arcs and used them together, at great cost to their own stamina, only for Big Mom to decide they're worth her getting serious about and powering herself up. It's true that the alliance didn't struggle as much as expected with the flunkies and officers of the Beasts Pirates at the start of the battle, but in this late stage we're seeing how that conflict sapped their energy and expended their new tricks, meanwhile the two big bosses have come through to the final round with strength spare. Big Mom is finally selling that "how can they possibly win this" energy readers were looking for, and we can only hope Kaido brings the same force to bear against Luffy when we cut back to the roof.
Just goes to show how well planned out all of this is. People were agreeing with Hyogoro when he said he couldn't imagine losing and complaining it was too easy for the heroes back in the third chapter after the battle was officially kicked off by the attack on Kaido. We're now on chapter 45 after the raid commenced and there are now comments saying Big Mom still seems too strong to believably take down here, and that it feels too likely CP0 will actually be able to capture Robin, and that any win could only feel like an asspull. It's not unlike how most of Luffy's fights, be especially the Katakuri one, have gone. He took more hits, sure, but he kept getting back up. It's safe to say now we were feeling exactly what Oda wanted when it felt too easy in the opening chapters; the crew hit the ground running, but the battle of Onigashima is a marathon, not a sprint.
It's hard to see that kind of pacing reading week by week. It's the kind of thing that only reveals itself when you look back later on.
Oh, despite seeming resolved last chapter, it seems Drake and Apoo's fight is back on. Sure, why not. It seems like Drake has the upper hand he needs for a quick win, but I do wonder what the purpose of their truce was, given it's lasted less than 20 pages. In the volume readthrough, the idea of Drake and Apoo teaming up will be literally blink-and-you-miss-it. An even shorter shelf life than Marco and Perospero's alliance, somehow. With this, we've got a surprising number of characters heading for the armoury. Yamato, Drake, Apoo, Inbi, Fuga, Zanki and Kanjuro's Kazenbo. Presumably Kin'emon will find a way down there to cut fire one more time, possibly needing to be carried by Usopp to make it. Oda's got a plan for that arsenal, but I have no idea what it could be at this point.
Cipher Pol's move gives us nice moment between Robin and Brook and some interesting lore, though I have to wonder how this new conflict is going to fit into the already-strained pacing of the battle.
But the meat of this chapter is Sanji's transformation. This is exactly the kind of Sanji arc I've been hoping for since Ennies Lobby. Whole Cake Island gave us a lot of Sanji backstory, but it didn't force him to grow as a character at all - it turned out his natural kindness was the best thing for him all along and the skills he needed were the culinary ones he already had - leaving his post-timeskip exaggerated flaws untouched. After all of that, I wasn't expecting Sanji to ever be confronted by the possibility he had hurt a women, or pick up some self-doubt about his humanity and heritage, or have to honestly ask himself if his inability to face a female opponent makes him a liability. While the conclusions he comes to about these points are far from surprising, I'm so glad Oda finally brought them up.
Obviously Oda's given himself a lot of plausible deniability for Sanji apparently hurting an innocent woman, what with no one witnessing the deer directly. I'd say it's fairly likely the scene will be walked back later, but I'm not bothered by that. Sanji just believing he'd done it was enough to get the ball rolling, and that's all the story needed.
What I wouldn't have ever guessed is the request to Zoro to kill him if he goes off the rails. Despite all the bickering, the trust there is real. I'm looking forward to seeing how this interaction plays out after the battle, if we'll really get a dark Sanji who needs to be talked or beaten down (of course he won't actually die) or if Zoro just humorously looks for an excuse to follow through on the request despite Sanji remaining in his right mind.
I love that Sanji's change is reflected in his eyebrows. From his very first appearance, with one brow covered, to the reveal that they both go the same way with his timeskip design, to his siblings having theirs in the opposite direction, Sanji's eyebrows are one of the series' best long-con gags. And admirable restraint from Oda that their use has never been lampshaded in universe beyond calling them "swirly."
It's also not lost on me that Sanji has ended up on the opposite side of the dome to where Zoro's fighting. The left and right wings doing battle on their respective sides and pirate king fighting on the roof in the middle. Poetic, Oda, very poetic.
Basically the chapter was a banger. The main character I've felt has been most mishandled over the past decade is being pulled in an exciting new direction and the tension is really amping up. I have a bad feeling every break from here until the end of the battle is going to be painful, which is a bad point to reach right before the end of year dearth of chapters. But we'll make it through somehow.
I've seen a theory that the last three numbers (or at least 1 or 2 of them) are transformed versions of the samurai who saved Yamato. If true it would be huge.
It looks like a popular theory on reddit, but it feels pretty rough to me. At least two Numbers were already present on Wano at the time of Oden's execution, including one that looks an awful lot like Zanki from its silhouette.
And while that could be the yet-unseen sixth number, the theory still has to get around issues like why the then-World Government controlled Punk Hazard would take gigantification requests from Kaido, or how the group's names were decided if they were made in batches instead of all at once.
Basically it's an interesting concept, but the theory has some steep hurdles to clear if it's going to fit in the timeline and make logistical sense.
Oda's at least made the silhouette shown of the numbers match what they actually look like. The horns in the pic are short and wider
Zanki's horn are more slimmed and longer: silhouette vs actual the one in the middle here is most likely the unnamed one, his horns don't match any of who we've seen revealed
Big Mom pulled a Moria-like desperation move already? Sheesh, her defeat seems closer now ain't it?
Sanji's development… ehhh, ppl have better analyses than me. I just think it is too late for him, his credibility as Luffy's wing already took a hit in my eyes.
"No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk.." - Venat
Oda's at least made the silhouette shown of the numbers match what they actually look like. The horns in the pic are short and wider
Zanki's horn are more slimmed and longer: silhouette vs actual the one in the middle here is most likely the unnamed one, his horns don't match any of who we've seen revealed
That last link isn't working for me, but I'll take a shot in the dark and guess that the main candidate for Number 6 is this silhouette from their intro page.
The square head and extended lower jaw don't fit anyone revealed so far.
I see the evidence like this: The silhouette from the past has three identifying factors: Straight horns, a round head and long, thin arms. There's only three numbers with straight horns: Nangi, Zanki and mystery six. Of those, Nangi has a round body shape and thick arms, so it's probably not him. Zanki has the rounder head while mystery six looks flat on top. Eye placement seems to match six better, but the arm and shoulder shape is better for Zanki.
Even so, the silhouettes as a whole aren't perfect matches for the detail models. Compare Goki's intro silhouette to his final design. The silhouette's horns don't curve as dramatically, and it lacks his distinct fangs.
Whoever the silhouette in the past was, the theory still has to contend with how and why the last three Numbers were made and purchased separate from the rest, when it would have been most logical for them to have come as a set, and where the name scheme comes from if they weren't a set of experiments numbered one to ten.
Big Mom pulled a Moria-like desperation move already?
I think it's more a anger move than a desperation move. Not "Oh, shit, I must do this or I lose", but "Oh, I need to teach these boys a very harsh lesson".
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
Here’s my problem with Sanji, ok he has an identity crisis but you’re in the middle of a life and death battle, can’t you focus on the battle, use these power ups to help yourself and your friends and then deal with your identity crisis afterwards?. Right now Robin is in terrible danger and bastard Sanji is wasting time on this Id crisis. Who knows what could happen to Robin if she gets caught and a big blame would go to Sanji if. Sanji has become very unreliable and I’m very much counting WCI aside from now. Zoro has always been Luffy’s right hand and you know why is that, well you know many different reasons tangible and intangible that I don’t care to explain. The thought that this confused troublemaker wanted to steal Zoro’s moment as Luffy’s right hand on the Kuma incident, is irritating. This unreliable confused Simp.
The thing is that said power-up is the cause of this identity crisis, so using it would potentially do more harm than good. Especially if it's affecting Sanji's mind like the chapter implies.
Unrelated, I will be disappointed if, when the anime gets to this scene, we don't get a flashback to Luffy's encounter with Judge at the end of Whole Cake Island. If that doesn't answer Sanji's question of "What would Luffy prefer?" I don't know what would.
The Sanji stuff is so awesome! Oda's second favorite Straw Hat after Luffy in recent years. Just in terms of focus, development and panel time he's second only to Luffy.
I jumped on board the destruction of the Raid Suit the moment Jabra put that idea into my head. The idea that Sanji would have to make some hard decision about it during his ultimate battle with a high ranking Animal Pirate seemed perfect. Like I mentioned in the spoiler thread I just couldn't imagine Oda allowing Sanji to turn invisible on whim with women around. In battles it was a non-issue as far as I was concerned but now it almost appears as if he can do it anyway? If it's a limited use ok I'll take but I won't necessarily like it. Niji seems to be able to use electricity without the suit so maybe each child has their respective abilities within their DNA.
Devil Fruit's themselves probably have some form of genetic DNA that can be applied to one thing or another. Dog guns, elephant swords, laser beams we know of. Now the super science squad probably has something even further like the full reproduction of Paramecia or Logia abilities into inorganic material. All of this now mass produced.
After Oda's joke answer about Sanji being a Devil Fruit in the SBS I'm starting to believe Oda took that joke and decided to run with it. The eyebrows of the Vinsmoke children definitely didn't come from their mother and probably not Judge either. At least not naturally. If invisibility was always a Stealth Black power, Judge probably had access to specific devil fruits in which he was able genetically instill parts of them in his children.
The Vinsmoke sibling signature eyebrows might be Devil Fruit swirls. Sanji's body did indeed change and something activated and seemingly finished, complete with a flipped left eyebrow. Eyebrows facing the same direction as the fully augmented Vinsmoke children.
It really looks like Sanji gained some form of invisibility considering the sound affect reused from Shiliew and Sanji earlier. I do want to check out that Niji scene again and compare it with Sanji's Oven scene to get a stronger idea. If Judge's genetic augmentations were limited to exoskeletons, regeneration and some limited form of Devil Fruitability(in this case invisibility) then it rules out Sanji's fire as a Germa creation.
Sora and/or Judge being descendants of Lunarian's fit the bill really well. Hopefully the fire came from his mother's side and no where else.
I really like all this development. Seems like honest to goodness high stakes for Sanji. The inner turmoil this chapter is just spot on. Unfortunately it could mean a permanent exoskeleton and regeneration. That just seems far too over powered. Do not like. If Sanji's mind does become warped then I will chalk it up to none of it being permanent. If Sanji could also be susceptible to Judge's orders then I know it won't be permanent. Well at least not that aspect of the changes.
Vegapunk seems right around the corner so there is that possibility of sorting Sanji out. This all seems purposeful by Judge if you ask me.
Now about Zoro and Sanji. Imagine Sanji does feel he needs to be put down later in the arc. After all the partying and celebration Sanji gives Zoro a look and they go out back. Sanji just stands there awaiting the lethal blow only to stop it at the last second and we get a full on Zoro VS Evilji fight! I suppose when ever this hypothetical happens it depends on Zoro still being fully functional by the Mink medicine.
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I think it's more a anger move than a desperation move. Not "Oh, shit, I must do this or I lose", but "Oh, I need to teach these boys a very harsh lesson".
I would say outright sacrificing lifespan comes off as pretty desperate, especially because she's likely to do so again as the fight continues. Maybe even repeatedly.
Her anger move was what she did to Page One.
