Strawhat Jedi's logic is very good:
- We didn't see Carrot's decision
- Carrot's apparent conclusion does not fit her character arc
- Pedro's will is vague enough to mean "keep going with Luffy"
- We didn't see Carrot's farewell
What's against it is the huge amount of off-screening Wano got, specially in its conclusion.
Under normal circunstances, the chances of Carrot popping up would be overwhelmingly good.
But Wano's ending is just so underwhelmingly put together that it could have been Carrot's conclusion and we are just meant to take it as done.
If she doesn't pop up in the next chapters to clarify either outcome, God knows when her supporters will feel like all the chances have been spent.
I for one wouldn't be happy if Carrot indeed got offscreened like Hyogoro did, and didn't get a conclusion to that answer. It wouldn't be any different from the people that put all their bets on Yamato, only get a tomato splat onto their faces.
That said, to be honest, I have already pretty much given up on any chances of Carrot reappearing, because I can't think of a scenario that calls her to step out of her hiding place.
I love to be surprised though...so who knows?
I'm pretty much in the same boat. I'd be lying if I'd say I'm not still hoping that she has stowed away a second time. But it also comes across as my just not wanting to let go, so I'm already expecting this not to be the case.
I agree though that she would totally be treated dirty if that was the last we saw of her at this part in the story. For somebody who stowed away on the Sunny and experienced the wonders and dangers of the world for the very first time thanks to and together with the Strawhats, it's totally unforgiveable that we didn't get even a single panel where they say 'bye'.
Everybody who travelled with the Strawhats got a good bye scene be it the very big one with Vivi or a small one with Johnny and Yosaku who said, that they'll be going their own ways again. Carrot definitely deserves a good bye, but Wano really offscreened a lot.
Also the entire King of the Minks thing is a red herring at best and a cop out at worst. It feels totally undeserving and unearned. Not that she's not worth to become king in the future as an adult. But right now it comes totally out of the left field as if Oda has to conclude her arc somehow by giving her something (that's the copout). Of course the chances are that it's a red herring to throw the readers off because by the time it was brought up Oda still went Yamato route.
Either way, the entire king thing rubbs me the wrong way. It hasn't even to do with Carrot not joining. I just find it totally unfair to her. She also wanted to see the wonders of the world, just like Yamato. And while Carrot got some glimpses of Tottoland and Wano, there's still far more out there. Ok, she has already seen more different islands than Yamato but a) Yamato is free to leave and b) for Yamato experiencing Wano is already a completely new experience from being imprisoned in Onigashima. Carrot on the other hand now has to stay behind at Zou so that Inu and Neko can be at Wano. That's a very selfish dick move from the two.
Strawhat or not, I'd be happy if the girl actually rejected that offer and revived the Nox Pirates. That would fit her adventurous free spirit more than staying behind to rule a country. It's already rough to have a child like Momo rule a country but that was his birthright and he's always been prepared to do this, no matter how hard it is. But for Carrot it's "oh by the way, you're the new ruler of the country (so that you can stay chained here, while we are hanging around with our Sake loving frinds in Wano)". Not happy about that development at all.
Oh I agree with the idea its a cop out, and that Neko and Inu are dumbasses at best, given they should know by now how Carrot values the Straw Hats. They have Wanda and loudmouth Shishilan to do their thing if they like to stay on Wano so much...which on itself is selfish.
If they can be that selfish, then Carrot can be so too. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea she can get to become Queen of Zou....but not like this. Something like this, has to be rightfully earned, and if people think that she doesn't earn to be a Straw Hat....she's even less quailified to be royality out of nowhere.
I mean, holy hell, we are talking about a girl who mistakes natural lightning for Electro.
On that said, I don't see her creating a crew or reviving the Nox Pirates. It requires leadership quailities. Quailities she doesn't have, or else her "promotion" would have made sense.
Now maybe Oda is planning some wacked out scene for her to join....maybe at a Full Moon scenario where they are in a dangerous situation, so all the Straw Hats can see her Sulong form in action....given only Chopper, Nami, Brook and Jinbei saw it, and not the rest, like Luffy, who hasn't seen any Sulongs at all, but that is really the only thing I can think up reasonably why she hasn't yet showed herself, just yet.
If so, I'd prefer this a lot, so its not just a simple stowaway action.
What I find so special about Carrot's Sulong form, is that it doesn't just make her faster and stronger, but she also gets a growth spurt and gets a more adult voice, as compared to her jolly, youthful self.
I agree with everything you said. And please don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that she is qualified to be a captain. But her sailing out (be it by herself as Luffy did or with a pack of Minks) is more in line with her character (arc) than just becoming the ruler of the Minks.
As I said, I'm not holding out my breath for anything. And if this was still pre-timeskip Oda then I would bet anything I have on all the remaining signs pointing at her having stowed away and becoming a Strawhat. But with how weird Oda handled things in Wano I'm expecting the worst.
Pedro was a leader, it's true. He led the Nox Pirates. If it's shown that Carrot truly believes that he would want her to lead Zou and bring the dawn that way, I would accept it.
However, he was a leader in service to the dukes. His leadership was a means to an end with a clear, if broad, goal in mind and the autonomy to go where he needed to go to achieve it. What Carrot is being tasked to do, rule over all the Minks, would not only restrict her to a pretty small location, one that can move but she can't control by choice, but would be a lifelong committment with no real finish line.
Carrot wanted so desperately to see more outside Zou that she jumped onto Luffy’s ship. And now she's being told she's seen enough; that she can go back to Zou and stay there to fulfill her duty. She hasn't decided that. If she's faced with the prospect that the adventure in the outside world is over, I don't think she's going to accept it. Pedro said to move onward, and what that means is up to her. And based on all I've seen, moving onward for her means getting back out into the world and bringing the dawn that way.
Well if Yamato can change her mind about sailing out quickly, then I suppose Carrot can also change her mind about sailing the world, since she does always care about her fellow minks.
The Carrot in Chapter 1056 definitely isn't the same as the Carrot in Chapter 804, so maybe it's possible it has been enough time that she has changed her mind, maybe she hasn't. Once again, I'll have to see for myself.
I just hope Carrot says "screw you guys, I'm creating my own
bandpirate crew" and just set's sail. Even if she is not the same Carrot from chapter 804 anymore, she definitely is not the ruler of a kingdom.
Carrot was a Kingsbird along with Wanda, so I'd have to figure that was the lead up to Carrot being rulers with her if anything. I'm just saying it's possible after all.
Oh, I wasn't it's impossible. I was merely saying that this entire development is taking a dump on the character. Maknig her stay tied to Zou so that the Cat and Dog can stay with their friends. It's like "well Yamato is finally free now and not bound by stupid ideas of her father/leader to govern a country but Carrot on the other hand has to suffer exactly that." I just hate it.