Actually, the story did show him noticing both.
First page is a different moment, Yamato known of Momo's survival since he was crucified and didnt reacted to him being alive at all.
And second panel, she really isnt questioning why or how is he big now, and neither is amazed at it.
Her reactions to Luffy and JoyBoy are way greater.
It should be obvious at this point that Yamato's primary focus is on Luffy. A lot more interest has be conveyed by Yamato toward Luffy through his reactions and questions than Yamato toward anyone else (including Momonosuke).
Yamato's interest and attachment to Luffy are only growing with the revelation that Luffy is Joy Boy.
With every action Yamato takes, he is constantly asking himself the question internally - how can this help Luffy?
Yamato already knows that Luffy is the type of person who leaves problems outside of his power to his allies, which at this point includes Yamato. This is why Yamato is taking the responsibility of guiding Momonosuke to keep Onigashima from falling.
It should be obvious at this point that Yamato's primary focus is on Luffy. A lot more interest has be conveyed by Yamato toward Luffy through his reactions and questions than Yamato toward anyone else (including Momonosuke).
Yamato's interest and attachment to Luffy are only growing with the revelation that Luffy is Joy Boy.
With every action Yamato takes, he is constantly asking himself the question internally - how can this help Luffy?
- From knocking Ulti unconscious;
- to telling Luffy he will fight on his side;
- to guiding Luffy toward the Performance Floor where Momonosuke was chained;
- to following Luffy's orders to protect Momonosuke and Shinobu;
- to sharing the information in Oden's journal with Momonosuke which would help establish Luffy being the person Oden was waiting for;
- to leaving Momonosuke in order to join Luffy on the roof of the Onigashima castle;
- to keeping Kaido busy until Luffy was able to return;
- to following Luffy's order to help Momonosuke use his Seiryu abilities to keep Onigashima from falling on the Flower Capital;
- to abandoning Momonosuke again to handle the explosives in the Onigashima armory;
- to helping Momonosuke understand the value of the current battle;
- to Yamato requesting Momonosuke to make flame clouds which would ensure Luffy can attain his victory without concerning himself with a further problem.
Yamato already knows that Luffy is the type of person who leaves problems outside of his power to his allies, which at this point includes Yamato. This is why Yamato is taking the responsibility of guiding Momonosuke to keep Onigashima from falling.
Yep, regardless of her relationship with Momo, can't completely deny the possibility of Yamato partially getting more invested in Luffy's story because of Joy Boy, seeing as how Oden was waiting for him.
Yep, regardless of her relationship with Momo, can't completely deny the possibility of Yamato partially getting more invested in Luffy's story because of Joy Boy, seeing as how Oden was waiting for him.
Yeah Yamato's desire to be Oden is mirroring Oden's early desire of leaving Wano and exploring the world - rather than the older wiser Oden who cared for his family and Wano.
Yeah Yamato's desire to be Oden is mirroring Oden's early desire of leaving Wano and exploring the world - rather than the older wiser Oden who cared for his family and Wano.
Oden was also counting on the next generation to be the leading force in the world, the one Whitebeard talked about which presumably would turn the world upside down and unleash a war bigger than Marineford. I get the feeling that would be one of Yamato’s top concerns at that point.
Blackbeard's Yami Yami is likely a Mythical Zoan too anyway, like Luffy's, so he would technically have the power of every DF type.
How is that likely? Blackbeard needing all three devil fruit types is just ocd talking; he already has an atypical logia. And if anything, Luffy was "retconned" to be an atypical zoan in order to match Blackbeard. "Sun vs darkness".
How is that likely? Blackbeard needing all three devil fruit types is just ocd talking; he already has an atypical logia. And if anything, Luffy was "retconned" to be an atypical zoan in order to match Blackbeard. "Sun vs darkness".
Blackbeard already stated his DF "chose" him and we just learned Zoan fruits have wills of their own. It's a Zoan with characteristics of Logia to match Luffy's Zoan with characteristics of Paramecia.
Was it zoan fruits or devil fruits as a whole that are said to have a will of their own?
Was it zoan fruits or devil fruits as a whole that are said to have a will of their own?
As per the Viz trans: " Zoan Fruits contain a will of their own. And this particular fruit has the name of a god".
As of now at least, I don't see any indication of other fruit types having a will. And in general it just seems to line up with what we've seen of Zoan fruits possessing objects
As per the Viz trans: " Zoan Fruits contain a will of their own. And this particular fruit has the name of a god".
As of now at least, I don't see any indication of other fruit types having a will. And in general it just seems to line up with what we've seen of Zoan fruits possessing objects
Puts into perspective how seriously all of this should be taken, or else we'll be thinking that Luffy has to be a god who goes to the sun now. lol
Yamato possibly choosing to stay in the country he wants to open isn't the same as Luffy having a sudden mothlike urge to fly into space and land on the sun.
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Same level of nonsense I'd say.
Blackbeard already stated his DF "chose" him and we just learned Zoan fruits have wills of their own. It's a Zoan with characteristics of Logia to match Luffy's Zoan with characteristics of Paramecia.
I'm of the opinion that "zoan fruits have wills of their own" has been blown out of proportion. We know what happened. Shanks stole the fruit from Who's Who, Luffy came upon it and ate it. And, as i said, Blackbeard's fruit is already atypical. It is classified as a logia but functions as a paramecia. Not to mention, it probably was what enabled Blackbeard to get Whitebeard's fruit's power.
I'm of the opinion that "zoan fruits have wills of their own" has been blown out of proportion. We know what happened. Shanks stole the fruit from Who's Who, Luffy came upon it and ate it. And, as i said, Blackbeard's fruit is already atypical. It is classified as a logia but functions as a paramecia. Not to mention, it probably was what enabled Blackbeard to get Whitebeard's fruit's power.
It's the opposite. It hasn't gotten enough attention. People are downplaying the significance because it doesn't support their theories. A DF "avoiding" the WG for 800 years isn't a coincidence. If a zoan DF can avoid the WG for 800 years, then it could sure enough avoid randos that it didn't deem worthy enough for them.
Yamato possibly choosing to stay in the country he wants to open isn't the same as Luffy having a sudden mothlike urge to fly into space and land on the sun.
Thing is though, Yamato isn't having some sudden urge to suddenly disregard everything she said about leaving and stay in Wano, is she? lol
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Again, it’s just not logical. I’m sure/e endgame has for Jimbe’s “dream” will either be halfassed or totally fantastical. As it should be since it’s not like Oda was going to solve racism in a supporting character’s dream/subplot.
Don't be quick to believe anyone who treats things like getting rid of slavery and wanting more equality and friendship between different people as impossible.
Believing things like "Give up, because that's just the way things are." is one of the most dangerously damaging things you can do.
Thing is though, Yamato isn't having some sudden urge to suddenly disregard everything she said about leaving and stay in Wano, is she? lol
Momo may yet change Yamato's mind. That's been in the cards ever since Yamato found out Momo was alive, and their bond has only grown stronger and stronger. Again, it'd take a lot less effort to simply decide to stay than for Luffy to fly into the sun, and is a whole lot more possible. Doesn't mean it'll happen, it's just more likely.
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Momo may yet change Yamato's mind.
You know what, with all due respect:
I don't believe you.
Momo may yet change Yamato's mind. That's been in the cards ever since Yamato found out Momo was alive, and their bond has only grown stronger and stronger.
We could probably appease both arguments by having Yamato initially stay to help Momonosuke during his transition to power, while also promising to join the crew later on once this is complete. Jinbei and Vivi did something similar, so it's not exactly something new to the story.
My issue with Yamato not bringing anything to the table beyond strength still stands
We could probably appease both arguments by having Yamato initially stay to help Momonosuke during his transition to power, while also promising to join the crew later on once this is complete. Jinbei and Vivi did something similar, so it's not exactly something new to the story.
My issue with Yamato not bringing anything to the table beyond strength still stands
Thing is is that, why should Yamato be obligated to stay when there are dozens of supporters in the form of the Scabbards, Yakuza, Minks, and others ready to help them out, especially after Luffy praised them for their dedication and such?
Also, if we're going to bring up Vivi, with her, she expressed dedication for her country from the very start instead of primarily wanting to escape it and adventure, and even when keeping in mind her choosing to ultimately stay in Alabasta instead of going with Luffy, she still experienced more adventure in the world than Yamato could have ever dreamed of.
And with Jinbe, he did the business that he did with Big Mom out of choosing to do so partially because of his honor. It's not like he chose to stay behind in his homeland of Fish-Man Island in order to guard Shirahoshi or anything like that, because of course, he chose not to in order to go with Luffy. It can also be reasonably argued that all he primarily had to offer was strength going by how it was emphasized that he was a prominent Warlord and great with Fish-Man Karate. And seeing as how Usopp and the others definitely could have used back-up when they needed it, having others like Tama and Marco bail them out, I'm sure that having Yamato do roles like being back-up would be more than welcome.
Momo may yet change Yamato's mind. That's been in the cards ever since Yamato found out Momo was alive, and their bond has only grown stronger and stronger. Again, it'd take a lot less effort to simply decide to stay than for Luffy to fly into the sun, and is a whole lot more possible. Doesn't mean it'll happen, it's just more likely.
The thing is that in OP's history, there has never been a successful attempt of changing one's mind to stay in one place instead of letting them do what they want.
Certainly didn't help with Oden. In fact, his wife even chastised the people who wanted him to stay. It's difficult to see this sorta thing working with Yamato and not be a betrayal of the narrative, especially if Momo is any aware of what his father went through.
No character has ever given up their dream for the greater good. Even characters like Jimbei who had a crew to look after was pushed by his crew that he deserved to be selfish for once and follow his heart.
Also regardless of how readers might hold Oden personally responsible for what happened to Wano because he left it at the worst timing, the story sure never blamed him for it and framed his decision not just as a necessity because he was onto something bigger but as a fulfillment of his dream to see how big and fantastic the world is.
And people think the story is going to deny his literal spiritual successor that joy and wonder and romance lol
Momo is hardly becoming a burden in Yamato's dreams, he's more like the kind to be the first one to farewell Yamato.
People getting kinda desperate these days.
I think people are underestimating this moment.
This may have been the moment of Yamato's realisation. He clearly got something in his mind at that point, and there's still no follow up to it.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
It's the opposite. It hasn't gotten enough attention. People are downplaying the significance because it doesn't support their theories. A DF "avoiding" the WG for 800 years isn't a coincidence. If a zoan DF can avoid the WG for 800 years, then it could sure enough avoid randos that it didn't deem worthy enough for them.
Tbh, I find that revelation rather ridiculous, among with the poorest of the justifications as to why the WG couldnt ever catch that fruit, a really bad retcon indeed.
And the main issue really is that we dont know anything about it at all, what does it even mean to have a fruit protect one place when said place lived just perfectly fine for 780 yrs..
I do believe that'll come into play eventually, but I also believe Yamato will not discover anything about her fruit if she doesnt meet Vegapunk and lands in Laugh Tale, and she, and us readers get to know the full picture of DFs, at that point itll be the time for Yamato to go back to Wano, now's the time for adventure.
Don't be quick to believe anyone who treats things like getting rid of slavery and wanting more equality and friendship between different people as impossible.
Didn’t say anything was impossible. Where did you read that?Believing things like "Give up, because that's just the way things are." is one of the most dangerously damaging things you can do.
Again, never said anything like this. Not sure what it has to do with my post.
I'm talking about Oda’s options for in story outcomes of what you all believe is Jimbe’s dream. Illogical halfassery or illogical pure fantasy happy ending shit.
I think people are underestimating this moment.
https://i.imgur.com/KRespuI.png
This may have been the moment of Yamato's realisation. He clearly got something in his mind at that point, and there's still no follow up to it.
Like, why are we pretending Luffy turning out to be Joy Boy doesn't significantly change what Momo or Yamato will do from now on? You know, the man Oden said Wano should do everything in their power to support?
Honestly, with the way things are going, Yamato might as well go following Oden's wish. Letting Luffy become Pirate King is the only way for Wano to be protected in the long term.
We know Zunesha will be there and ready to take on any ship, so there are already defenses for the short term.
The thing is that in OP's history, there has never been a successful attempt of changing one's mind to stay in one place instead of letting them do what they want.
Certainly didn't help with Oden. In fact, his wife even chastised the people who wanted him to stay. It's difficult to see this sorta thing working with Yamato and not be a betrayal of the narrative, especially if Momo is any aware of what his father went through.
It especially makes no sense since Yamato has proclaimed very loudly and several times that he will leave after Kaido is defeated.
There is no suspense or mystery around this issue. It isn’t a will he or won’t he situation like say with Vivi at the end of the Alabasta saga.
Things are pretty one sided in that regard. The counter to it ppl are coming up with isn’t supported by story or themes of OP and are almost baseless.
It’s kinda like why did Oda even have Yamato say those things just to do a 180 on that stance. It’s pretty similar with ppl thinking Yamato has to have some coming in to their own I am not Oden, I am Yamato moment when he’s never presented it as a character flaw but mostly has played it for laughs and if not that a serious take on somebody who idolizes somebody they see as a hero and samurai who was similar to them in circumstances who got to fulfill their dream by exploring the world.
Like, why are we pretending Luffy turning out to be Joy Boy doesn't significantly change what Momo or Yamato will do from now on? You know, the man Oden said Wano should do everything in their power to support?
Honestly, with the way things are going, Yamato might as well go following Oden's wish. Letting Luffy become Pirate King is the only way for Wano to be protected in the long term.
We know Zunesha will be there and ready to take on any ship, so there are already defenses for the short term.
Because Yamato is privy to yet another truth:
And yet he found that the Momonosuke is not ready to carry that burden:
Let's face it: Luffy is not the one in need of guidance and protection to fulfill his destiny. Momonosuke is.
And Yamato has just learned that.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
It's the opposite. It hasn't gotten enough attention. People are downplaying the significance because it doesn't support their theories. A DF "avoiding" the WG for 800 years isn't a coincidence. If a zoan DF can avoid the WG for 800 years, then it could sure enough avoid randos that it didn't deem worthy enough for them.
So you think the fruit could somehow move on its own to avoid being eaten by someone who is not worthy? Or that It somehow controlled Shanks to steal it from Who's Who? That's exactly what I mean by blowing things out of proportion. Sorry but until proven otherwise, i'm sticking with the idea that the fruit has always just been taken from the wrong hands- at the right time because "fate".
It's a shame that everyone besides Yamato is going to die so that there's no one else left to be Momo's guide but him at the cost of abandoning/postponing his dream indefinitely. But that's a common lesson in media and especially One Piece, sometimes you have to forsake your own ambitions to babysit an 8-year-old in the body of an adult.
Let's face it: Luffy is not the one in need of guidance and protection to fulfill his destiny. Momonosuke is.
And Yamato has just learned that.
Let's face it: All of that is necessary until Kaido is defeated… after that there is absolutely NO reason for Yamato to care any longer for Momo...
What ever she knows... will be revealed by the end of Wano... all the secrets... a bunch of things about Joy Boy, and why Momo is important...
As soon as those things are revealed, everyone is capable of guiding Momo... hell, even Zunesha can do it without problem...
You are ignoring all of that...
Because Yamato is privy to yet another truth:
https://i.imgur.com/6ZohN0M.png
https://i.imgur.com/7iZZ1tx.pngAnd yet he found that the Momonosuke is not ready to carry that burden:
https://i.imgur.com/KRespuI.png
https://i.imgur.com/3Oy7aAY.png
https://i.imgur.com/ic8wYlg.pngLet's face it: Luffy is not the one in need of guidance and protection to fulfill his destiny. Momonosuke is.
And Yamato has just learned that.
If Momo is that much of an amateur man child incapable of being shogun, then he can always gladly join Luffy alongside Yamato then. Someone like Hiyori can be shogun too I’m sure.
Yeah. Obviously Yamato is set up to be Momonosuke's wife not his mentor. :ninja:
We're really navigating into savage hipocricy territory, when the same people that always argued that Carrot having responsabilities as a Musketeer and as a Kingsbird meant nothing to her chances of joining, but somehow, giving responsabilities to Yamato will be an unbreakable burden.
Stop it, its pitiful.
Isn't that the essence of this thread…:ninja:
It's a shame that everyone besides Yamato is going to die so that there's no one else left to be Momo's guide but him at the cost of abandoning/postponing his dream indefinitely. But that's a common lesson in media and especially One Piece, sometimes you have to forsake your own ambitions to babysit an 8-year-old in the body of an adult.
Well, Yamato is the one who wants to be "Oden". He's the one who knows what Momonosuke is supposed to do. There's no better guide than him.
Let's face it: All of that is necessary until Kaido is defeated… after that there is absolutely NO reason for Yamato to care any longer for Momo...
What ever she knows... will be revealed by the end of Wano... all the secrets... a bunch of things about Joy Boy, and why Momo is important...
As soon as those things are revealed, everyone is capable of guiding Momo... hell, even Zunesha can do it without problem...You are ignoring all of that...
Only Yamato can guide Momo because only Yamato knows what Oden was expecting for Momo.
And the danger does not end with Kaido. The panel I highlighted make it very clear that Momonosuke knows that opening the country will endanger its people.
The story is saying that very clearly, you just refude to listen.
If Momo is that much of an amateur man child incapable of being shogun, then he can always gladly join Luffy alongside Yamato then. Someone like Hiyori can be shogun too I’m sure.
Hey, maybe that happens. There's even some people who think Momonosuke will join the crew.
But I don't think that will happen either.
We're really navigating into savage hipocricy territory, when the same people that always argued that Carrot having responsabilities as a Musketeer and as a Kingsbird meant nothing to her chances of joining, but somehow, giving responsabilities to Yamato will be an unbreakable burden.
Stop it, its pitiful.
I have no idera who are these Carrot people you are talking about.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
We're really navigating into savage hipocricy territory, when the same people that always argued that Carrot having responsabilities as a Musketeer and as a Kingsbird meant nothing to her chances of joining, but somehow, giving responsabilities to Yamato will be an unbreakable burden.
Stop it, its pitiful.
Yeah, it is interesting to me how Carrot having had history being an aide and being part of a musketeer squad to the Minks she cares about so much, in addition to the possibility of her staying on Zou needing more protection and support after Jack was destroying the city on it, isn’t brought up that often. And meanwhile, Yamato is being talked about more as having be the one obligated to stay and baby Momo, even though Carrot has gotten to venture out into the world and Yamato hasn’t.
Also, seeing as how I’ve seen the Scabbards be called incompetent and unfit to help Momo, then that would mean that would mean that Inuarashi and Nekomamushi are in incompetent rulers on Zou, and if they’re that incompetent, then by that logic, Carrot should stay behind on Zou to help support it and make up for how incompetent scabbards Inu and Neko are, no?
Only Yamato can guide Momo because only Yamato knows what Oden was expecting for Momo.
Yeah, why? She only knows what Oden written in his journal…
Momo has his journal, he can read it, he knows what Oden wanted... everyone of the Scabbards knows what Oden wanted, they can read the journal as well... Hiyori can read it...
Zunesha knows what Joy Boy wanted... everyone can guide Momo... there is not one reason for Yamato to do it... she doesn't know more than the journal...
You are ignoring all of that...
This thread should probably be renamed to the "Yamato fanclub" thread. It only has 2 modes: Yamato fans patting themselves on the back on how every panel is more proof that Yamato's a lock. Or someone trying to bring up an opposing possibility getting dogpiled by the Yamato fans on how stupid and impossible it is. The power this 1 character has over fans… I worry for Oda if he actually does go with any rout that ends with Yamato not joining the crew.
I'd say odds are we're going to Sphinx to visit Ace's grave next, and the Yamato question won't be solved until the end of that mini-arc. Until then, Yamato will just be one of multiple tagalongs going to visit Ace's grave. But I'm sure fans will treat them special the moment they step on the Sunny, while the rest of the tagalongs get rejected and ignored.
Mind you, I'm not "Yamato will stay in Wano forever" crowd. I think the closest we'd get to that is Yamato staying with Momo temporarily, and then the next major cover story being entirely about the beginning and first journey of the Yamato pirates. Yamato needs their own journey and is more than capable and motivated to lead their own.
Well, Yamato is the one who wants to be "Oden". He's the one who knows what Momonosuke is supposed to do. There's no better guide than him.
Zhenja already addressed this but just to make sure: All knowledge Yamato has about what Momo is supposed to do stems from Oden's journal that is now rightfully in Momo's hands. Momo already knows why exactly he mustn't die and what Oden predicted about him. There is no indication that Yamato has some secret knowledge that's beyond what's written in the journal.
This thread should probably be renamed to the "Yamato fanclub" thread. It only has 2 modes: Yamato fans patting themselves on the back on how every panel is more proof that Yamato's a lock. Or someone trying to bring up an opposing possibility getting dogpiled by the Yamato fans on how stupid and impossible it is. The power this 1 character has over fans…
You mean people bringing up the same arguments against Yamato and other people explaining why those arguments don't hold up, rinse and repeat?
Then why mention that she wants to sail with Luffy in the first place?
An artificial way to make fans instantly latch onto and identify with a character who was otherwise introduced late and poorly in an arc where they are supposedly so important that they're next/final nakama material.
Seems like a reasonable explanation to me.
This thread should probably be renamed to the "Yamato fanclub" thread. It only has 2 modes: Yamato fans patting themselves on the back on how every panel is more proof that Yamato's a lock. Or someone trying to bring up an opposing possibility getting dogpiled by the Yamato fans on how stupid and impossible it is. The power this 1 character has over fans… I worry for Oda if he actually does go with any rout that ends with Yamato not joining the crew.
I'd say odds are we're going to Sphinx to visit Ace's grave next, and the Yamato question won't be solved until the end of that mini-arc. Until then, Yamato will just be one of multiple tagalongs going to visit Ace's grave. But I'm sure fans will treat them special the moment they step on the Sunny, while the rest of the tagalongs get rejected and ignored.
Mind you, I'm not "Yamato will stay in Wano forever" crowd. I think the closest we'd get to that is Yamato staying with Momo temporarily, and then the next major cover story being entirely about the beginning and first journey of the Yamato pirates. Yamato needs their own journey and is more than capable and motivated to lead their own.
Rather interesting observation since I’m noticing more people talking of Yamato as if to deny her repeated wish of leaving and general doubt of Momo as if Luffy’s encouragement has been for nothing, as well as take what Kaido said as being evidence against her too. Would it be more accurate to call it the “Anti-Yamato Club” then? Heh.
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An artificial way to make fans instantly latch onto and identify with a character who was otherwise introduced late and poorly in an arc where they are supposedly so important that they're next/final nakama material.
Seems like a reasonable explanation to me.
If that can be said, then what can be said about what Kaido said about the guardian deity? That could prob be taken as an artificial way to make people think the contrary as well. Not sure how Yamato could have been introduced so late though since she only met Luffy in June 2020, which is almost two years ago now.
An artificial way to make fans instantly latch onto and identify with a character who was otherwise introduced late and poorly in an arc where they are supposedly so important that they're next/final nakama material.
Seems like a reasonable explanation to me.
Yeah. To be honest, if it wasn't for those two panels I would have never even considered Yamato as a potential crewmate. 95% of the character's interactions have been with Momo, the flashback was lame and most of what he did has been sidequests anyways.
I believe the character Is going to be important later, thus the shocking crewmate hook… But not as a crewmate.
Yeah, why? She only knows what Oden written in his journal…
Momo has his journal, he can read it, he knows what Oden wanted... everyone of the Scabbards knows what Oden wanted, they can read the journal as well... Hiyori can read it...
Zunesha knows what Joy Boy wanted... everyone can guide Momo... there is not one reason for Yamato to do it... she doesn't know more than the journal...You are ignoring all of that...
You are the one ignoring that all that you are saying others could do is actually being done by Yamato. It's Yamato and Momonosuke bonding over 50+ chapters, and getting to know each other, and sharing the knowledge of the journal. That's the story being told.
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This is not the tale of how Yamato becomes a Straw Hat. It's the tale of how Yamato becomes Wano's guardian.
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An artificial way to make fans instantly latch onto and identify with a character who was otherwise introduced late and poorly in an arc where they are supposedly so important that they're next/final nakama material.
Seems like a reasonable explanation to me.
Bingo!
I've been saying this for a while.
Yeah. To be honest, if it wasn't for those two panels I would have never even considered Yamato as a potential crewmate. 95% of the character's interactions have been with Momo, the flashback was lame and most of what he did has been sidequests anyways.
I believe the character Is going to be important later, thus the shocking crewmate hook… But not as a crewmate.
Yep, take those two panels away and there's nothing left of the "Yamato for Nakama" idea.
The story being told is not about Yamato becoming a Straw Hat.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
Yes, the story is about doing what Kaido wants, and not what she wants.
Completely logical outcome.
If that can be said, then what can be said about what Kaido said about the guardian deity? That could prob be taken as an artificial way to make people think the contrary as well. Not sure how Yamato could have been introduced so late though since she only met Luffy in June 2020, which is almost two years ago now.
I thought popular sentiment was that the guardian thing is nonsense, cause we've never seen wolves seem particularly important to the people of Wano? Not in the present or the past. It makes it feel like it was just thrown in late to make Yamato seem more important.
Also sorry if I'm wrong, don't mean to seem rude, but I had just gotten done reading the past several pages of the thread. To me, it looked like 1 anti-Yamato was met by 3-5 pro-yamato posts everytime. I don't want to make a big thing about it, was just venting a little.
An artificial way to make fans instantly latch onto and identify with a character who was otherwise introduced late and poorly in an arc where they are supposedly so important that they're next/final nakama material.
Seems like a reasonable explanation to me.
If Yamato is designed to be latched on as a potential next crewmate then him being introduced "late" in the arc kinda goes against that, doesn't it? Late is also getting relative, Wano's curtains opened in chapter 909, Yamato was first mentioned in 977, we're now at 1046. We've officially passed the point where we knew of Yamato's existence rather than not in the arc. By the time Wano is wrapped up Yamato will have played a part in the majority of it. I've been saying that Oda could easily have foreshadowed Yamato sooner which definitely would've helped in people latching on to him, and Yamato not playing an active part before Onigashima makes sense due to his circumstances.
Regarding other stuff, I don't need to point out that one point was shifted from "Yamato is the only one in the know and so the only person able to guide Momo" to "Yeah, well, they've been bonding a lot!", do I? Shifting goalposts at its finest
