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Some thoughts:
Until now, the Franky Shogun was basically unbeatable. Nothing could threaten it, but Sasaki took away that invincibility! Well-done!
I don't think the Franky vs Sasaki fight is over, unlike Jinbe vs Who's Who. Jinbe had no trouble shrugging off Who's Who most powerful attacks before delivering his (seemly) finishing blow.
Not with Franky, who really took a beating there and was forced out of the robot. If Who's Who gets up, Jinbe gets an even easier second round. If Sasaki gets up, Franky will have an even harder time. So, I'm definitely counting on round 2 for this.
As for Yamato stuff, I think the form is cool. Feral and unique enough. But at the same time, the way it was presented feels a little off… I mean, it makes sense that he went hybrid to fight dad, but it happening off-screen and revealed in a chapter unrelated to that fight is strange for a would-be main character. We haven't seen Yamato fighting for real in normal mode, and now he's already in hybrid. Sorry for Yamato supporters, but it doesn't feel like he's being explored well enough to join the crew.
Instead of seeing Yamato being slowly developed as the focus of some chapters, he is constantly getting info dumps scenes here and there. A lot of "tell", not enough "show". And still lacking depth.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
That was a damn good chapter and a great fight for Franky. Having the shogun beat only for him to get in on the action is great. Yamato's fruit is what people expected and I'm with it. Looks like a mink in Sulong almost.
edit: On second look it doesn't look like a byakko. I'm sure there's been plenty of discussion about what it actually is.
Some thoughts:
Until now, the Franky Shogun was basically unbeatable. Nothing could threaten it, but Sasaki took away that invincibility! Well-done!
I don't think the Franky vs Sasaki fight is over, unlike Jinbe vs Who's Who. Jinbe had no trouble shrugging off Who's Who most powerful attacks before delivering his (seemly) finishing blow.
Not with Franky, who really took a beating there and was forced out of the robot. If Who's Who gets up, Jinbe gets an even easier second round. If Sasaki gets up, Franky will have an even harder time. So, I'm definitely counting on round 2 for this.
As for Yamato stuff, I think the form is cool. Feral and unique enough. But at the same time, the way it was presented feels a little off… I mean, it makes sense that he went hybrid to fight dad, but it happening off-screen and revealed in a chapter unrelated to that fight is strange for a would-be main character. We haven't seen Yamato fighting for real in normal mode, and now he's already in hybrid. Sorry for Yamato supporters, but it doesn't feel like he's being explored well enough to join the crew.
Instead of seeing Yamato being slowly developed as the focus of some chapters, he is constantly getting info dumps scenes here and there. A lot of "tell", not enough "show". And still lacking depth.
I'm assuming Sasaki is out due to that line about Franky having "finished him off countless times". That reeks of Oda not wanting to extend the fight and telling the audience "it was awesome, I swear!".
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Anyway we can add a poll to what Yamato's df is? I think it'd be a fun experience.
As for the chapter. Very solid.
Here’s how Naruto should end: Last panel is Naruto standing proudly over Konohagakure. Slowly zoom out to reveal Luffy staring into a snowglobe with a miniature Konoha inside it. Usopp asks him what he’s doing. Luffy replies “Thinkin’ bout ninjas! Ninjas are cool!” and then chucks it off the ship
Fight looked great and I’ll say what I said about who’s who. This didn’t seem like a big finish either. I’m expecting some sort of awakening from Who and Sasaki to turn the tides. These don’t seem like how fights should end.
Yamato looks cool, I’m expecting more on Kaido and his relationship though. Hopefully Oda will give us that in the next chapter
Franky should have unlocked haki by now
I really wanted Franky to be forced to leave the Shogun but only for the final shot? I want to see Franky fight by himself. I assume it's over because I don't see him getting more screentime, sadly. Hoping to be wrong.
Anyway we can add a poll to what Yamato's df is? I think it'd be a fun experience.
As for the chapter. Very solid.
All done, up there now.
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It is hard to tell due to Yamato's hybrid form but I would assume it is some mythological Japanese creature because this is Wano and the one that seems most likely to me is the Kirin.
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I'm gonna throw my change into the Kasha stock.
I really enjoyed the Sasaki vs Franky match. It had a good balance of wacky and serious in it. However, it did leave me wanting more.
I have no idea of what Yamato's fruit is.
But I don't think it is:
It seems to be some kind of chimera with fire powers, but it's hard to tell what it is. I don't know enough about eastern chimeric beings.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
Also, in the Where's Waldo spread, it is interesting that Haccha the Number 8 has normal skin while all the other Numbers are rainbow-colored. It does feel like he's completely out of place.
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Also, it's funny that Jack is still pathetic.
I have no idea of what Yamato's fruit is.
But I don't think it is:
- Byakko: No tiger features at all. No stripes, looks more like a fox or deer-like head, ears are not feline at all.
- Kirin: No hooves, no scales (thought kirin does not always have them), the horns do not seem to come from the animal form, but her natural human form. So maybe she's intended to look a bit like a kirin, while not being exactly one.
It seems to be some kind of chimera with fire powers, but it's hard to tell what it is. I don't know enough about eastern chimeric beings.
Replying to the bolded, the name Byakko commonly translates to "White Tiger". However, Byakko also means "White Fox".
So Yamato's DF could be the Inu Inu no Mi - Model: Byakko (White Fox)
I myself think its a chimera-like creature with elements of a big cat, fox and possibly Kirin. I like to go with Kirin/Qilin, namely because it goes well with the mythology regarding this legendary creature.
My choices are:
Cat Cat Fruit - Model: Bakeneko (Kasha themed)
Dog Dog Fruit - Model: Byakko White Fox
Horse Horse Fruit - Model: Qilin
Im even considering a Rabbit class fruit - the Moon Rabbit model.
Its to note that the Qilin is also described to have a coat of fur with a pattern that can resemble scales.
Sasaki turning into a helicopter is one of those things you didn't know you needed in your life, well done Oda
The more I read it the more I like this chapter. Quick good fight, funny like all Franky fights should be. He managed to show of both his robot and himself, and ending it with the radical beam was great.
As for Yamato I voted Raiju, for two reasons.
1. That'd make him a dog-like creature which would fill in the Momotaro references nicely.
2. His appearance feels like a mixture between canine, feline and even some deer features. And if good ol' wikipedia can be trusted a Raiju has enough variation in appearance that it'd be justified.
Biggest points against it is a Raiju is a lightning creature and it rather looks like he has flames. If it wasn't for point 1 I'd have voted Kasha. It could work out though if it's storm clouds or just a fancy ornamental design.
That said it wouldn't surprise me if he's something else entirely.
Kirin is another one I like.
The colorspread looks really neat.
The rest of the chapter is quite lame, compared to the Jimbei one.
The Franky fight was not cool at all. I assume a Triceratops (one of my favorite dinos as kid) turning into a helicopter was supposed to be funny, but I didn´t smile once.
The finishing sequence of Franky seeing the incoming enemy -> being hit -> magically appearing outside of his armor, prepping the laser, could have been cooler.
Like, Franky in the incoming drawing would scream "General!…" and then "...Dump!" as he appears below.
Finally, Yamato fights...not, they just swing their bats a bit, the dialogue is awkward and her mixed Zoan form looks even worse than that of Kaido. :sad:
EDIt: Looks like an arctic fox or something, no idea, not accustomed to asian mythical beasts.
I hope the quality returns to #1018 level in #1020 and I get to see Robin in action next.
- Kirin: No hooves, no scales (thought kirin does not always have them), the horns do not seem to come from the animal form, but her natural human form. So maybe she's intended to look a bit like a kirin, while not being exactly one.
It seems to be some kind of chimera with fire powers, but it's hard to tell what it is. I don't know enough about eastern chimeric beings.
I'm calling either a Kirin/Qilin or a Nine-Tailed Fox.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qilin
"The qilin is depicted throughout a wide range of Chinese art, sometimes with parts of their bodies on fire. On occasion, they will have feathery features or decorations, fluffy curly tufts of hair, as depicted in Ming Dynasty horse art on various parts of the legs, from fetlocks to upper legs, or even with decorative fish-like fins as embellishments, or carp fish whiskers, or scales."
Qilin are also supposed to represent virtues and protection, something which seems to fit Yamato quite well.
I'm calling either a Kirin/Qilin or a Nine-Tailed Fox.
Nine-Tailed Fox already went to Catarina Devon
I think right now I like the theory that Yamato is one of those fox statues at the entrance of Onigashima the most, but the ears are nothing alike. Every option listed in the poll has some overlap with Yamato but nothing fits well, and Greg's comment implied that whatever he really is isn't currently a popular theory, so I'll go with "other".
I'm calling either a Kirin/Qilin or a Nine-Tailed Fox.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qilin"The qilin is depicted throughout a wide range of Chinese art, sometimes with parts of their bodies on fire. On occasion, they will have feathery features or decorations, fluffy curly tufts of hair, as depicted in Ming Dynasty horse art on various parts of the legs, from fetlocks to upper legs, or even with decorative fish-like fins as embellishments, or carp fish whiskers, or scales."
Qilin are also supposed to represent virtues and protection, something which seems to fit Yamato quite well.
But qilin have hooves, while Yamato has claws on his hands. We can't see his feet, but the way the legs are positioned it looks like a cat's or dog's.
As the article says: "They are always shown with cloven hooves."
I think what makes the qilin a lookalike is the horns, but Yamato's horns are natural, not from her beast form.
Also, he can't be a nine-tailed fox because that one is already taken by Catarina Devon.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
I'm glad Oda's focusing on the different fights in the last handful of chapters as we were getting enough glimpses of them but not enough focus until now. Initially I was a bit bummed out that we're getting a chapter focusing on each battle and its conclusion but that's been the case throughout Once Piece. If Sasaki gets up again I'd love to see Franky remove the 'gloves' from his hands like he did when he fought on the train between Water 7 and Enies Lobby (I don't think we've seen him fight this way since then)). I know Franky's mainly about beams and suplexes but I'd like to see him get a strong hammer or two in there against Sasaki if they have a final round.
Do people reckon this arc will conclude by chapter 1050? Would the arc's end be rushed if Oda tries to wrap it up in the next 30 chapters? (I guess after the Tobi Roppo fights and a little more backstory for Kaidō there's not much more to cover than the commander fights and the final fight between Luffy and Kaidō himself).
I'm glad Oda's focusing on the different fights in the last handful of chapters as we were getting enough glimpses of them but not enough focus until now. Initially I was a bit bummed out that we're getting a chapter focusing on each battle and its conclusion but that's been the case throughout Once Piece. If Sasaki gets up again I'd love to see Franky remove the 'gloves' from his hands like he did when he fought on the train between Water 7 and Enies Lobby (I don't think we've seen him fight this way since then)). I know Franky's mainly about beams and suplexes but I'd like to see him get a strong hammer or two in there against Sasaki if they have a final round.
Do people reckon this arc will conclude by chapter 1050? Would the end be rushed if Oda tries to wrap it up in the next 30 chapters? (I guess what the Tobi Roppo fights and a little more backstory for Kaidō there's not much more to cover than the fights between the commanders and Kaidō himself).
Around 30 chapters is enough to finish fights, but not to include the epilogue, IMO.
While I won't be too mad if the fights are concluding like this, what gives me a bit of pause is that Oda switches scenes on both the last two fights right when the Tobi Roppo were in the middle of collapsing, instead of getting a DON shot of them lying on the ground defeated.
But qilin have hooves, while Yamato has claws on his hands. We can't see his feet, but the way the legs are positioned it looks like a cat's or dog's.
As the article says: "They are always shown with cloven hooves."
I think what makes the qilin a lookalike is the horns, but Yamato's horns are natural, not from her beast form.
Also, he can't be a nine-tailed fox because that one is already taken by Catarina Devon.
Its to note that the horns of Yamato's normal self have also changed in the Hybrid form, having moved into the forehead and have grown longer like a Qilin.
Both fights have been great so far to me, but I'm with you Honeyman in that I'd love to see Franky and Sasaki participate in fisticuffs as well. I'm chomping at the bit now for Brook and Robin vs Black Maria.
No matter what the fruit will be. I still find the look mediocre at best… Looks like a Pokemon or something
Yeah it isn't a great look for him.
Was hoping for something more feral looking
I think Yamato's hybrid form has left me with a more positive first impression than Kaidos.
Though a little more feral looking would of been better.
No matter what the fruit will be. I still find the look mediocre at best… Looks like a Pokemon or something
Pokemons are cool you know.
Lol the poll, I have no idea what these «animals» are, except for fox of course.
Yamato fruit predictions :
Hito Hito no mi : model Mink
Ancient Kirin
He kinda looks like a docile deer or something.
Doesn't synch up to the fangs he had before with Saski
Im doubling down on Qilin. I have been looking at various depictions of how the creature is drawn, and the results are pretty surprising. Some appear as deer-like, and others appear with a leonine-like face. Even if its not exactly the Qilin of legend, the creature can be something similar to one, as its allows a lot of artistic freedom. The fact that Oda showed off the Hybrid form first just gives more questions than answers and keeps us talking.
And that is good.
[…]what gives me a bit of pause is that Oda switches scenes on both the last two fights right when the Tobi Roppo were in the middle of collapsing, instead of getting a DON shot of them lying on the ground defeated.
I think two scenarios are on the table:
1. The Flying Six get back up, all of them, possibly through Awakening.
2. Oda intends to make a collage once every Flying Six is down. I imagine the DON shots you're talking about, with bounty reveals next to them. Basically to hammer home that yes, our crew just defeated the commanders of a Yonkou.
Gotta get it out of my system : Yamato's transformed looks is a huge disappointment.
We already have the Minks filling the "badass furry" slot, and that deer-like face isn't even remotely interesting. I was hoping for something more ferocious, why not another dinosaur. Among poll options, the Qilin has more appeal than what we're lookign at. Hell, I would have been fine with a Smile and animal parts growing out in weird places. But this ? …No. Just, no. I'm not even curious about what kind of power it is, that's how much it killed the mood.
Franky just beated Sasaki without Haki :wassat:
His pride in being one of the flying six kept him from blacking out after the gaoh cannon, and then he says something along the lines of if i'm going down i'm taking you with me. Doesn't sound like i still have more to give mid-point talk to me, so i'm gonna say that he's down for the count
His pride in being one of the flying six kept him from blacking out after the gaoh cannon, and then he says something along the lines of if i'm going down i'm taking you with me. Doesn't sound like i still have more to give mid-point talk to me, so i'm gonna say that he's down for the count
I agree, also… Steal his screw sword Franky!
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I think there is more between them though besides fighting to wrap up with a bow. It is almost too clear … too apparent to not be true that Tom and Kokoro are Sasaki’s biological parents.
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Tom clears his desk of all his paperwork including the plans to pluton and throws Kokoro on top of it. Choo choooo “ Kokoro says lustfully.
Luffy was beating Haki users before it was cool.
Gotta get it out of my system : Yamato's transformed looks is a huge disappointment.
We already have the Minks filling the "badass furry" slot, and that deer-like face isn't even remotely interesting. I was hoping for something more ferocious, why not another dinosaur. Among poll options, the Qilin has more appeal than what we're lookign at. Hell, I would have been fine with a Smile and animal parts growing out in weird places. But this ? …No. Just, no. I'm not even curious about what kind of power it is, that's how much it killed the mood.
Yeah I'm not feeling as strongly disappointed as you seem to be, but for me it's a big "meh"" too. I was hoping for a T-Rex and at least accepting of the white tiger, and both options looked cooler than this… skinny dragon-deer thing?
It lacks a "WOW" factor for me. Something Yamato's original appearance had, but this transformation doesn't. Oda put more way work in Kaido's first appearance as a dragon, for example. Or even the calamities.
Haki was never the end-all unbeatable ability. It's a power like any other.
Franky uses technology, Chopper uses medicine, Nami relies on subterfuge, misdirection and elemental attacks.
I think people who doesn't care for something actually martially-oriented would have an extra hard time learning haki, but they can get other types of upgrades. Stronger lasers are as useful as strong haki.
My thought process on Yamato's fruit that no one asked for:
Before this chapter I thought Byakko would fit most thematically because of dragon vs tiger myths. But there are no stripes and the ears/tail are wrong so I'm setting that side. My next guesses would be
1. Kirin. I've seen some people say "there are no hooves" but Dalton didn't have them on his hands either. Also seen the number of horns brought up, but I don't think there's any hard and fast rules that Oda abides by there. Pay Pay loses his horns in his zoan form, Ulti keeps hers, Kaido keeps his original ones in addition to growing normal dragon horns, and Sasaki keeps the same number of horns but they become darker and change shape to be more Triceratops like. Out of all these I think Yamato is most similar to Sasaki, because their horns move position from the sides of the head to the forehead and go from being very curved to more straight.
The ear shape and placement right besides the eyes also says to me deer/giraffe family more than anything else.
2. Some sort of dog/fox. The tail is nice and fluffy. Also it'd give Momo a more prominent dog companion for the Momotarou parallel. I originally thought Inuarashi obviously filled the role, but he hasn't been given much emphasis if Oda is really wanting to lean into the myth instead of just giving superficial nods to it.
3. Koma koma fruit that let's Yamato transform into any amalgamation of the koma species found on Wano.
I'm not 100% committed to any of these because ultimately the fruit name/species/design all comes down to what Oda thinks looks coolest.
Greg's comment implied that whatever he really is isn't currently a popular theory, so I'll go with "other".
I'm not sure why Greg's word is being given that much weight. Or if he does have insider information about chapters yet to release why he'd be allowed to tease it on forums without getting fired. Hasn't he been flat out wrong about stuff like traitor Kanjuro?
Not even Naruto resorted to time travel
Personally I just wish the strawhat crews isn't completely powerless against logias and other broken DFs outside of M3 + Jinbe really, especially when they would be able to beat people like Caribou otherwise.
Franky is gonna get a big upgrade from Queen's arsenal.
Can't find anything about Kotobuki. Is it spelled that way?
“As I stand out here in the wonders of the unknown at Hadley, I sort of realize there’s a fundamental truth to our nature: Man must explore!” – David Scott, Moon
Franky is gonna get a big upgrade from Queen's arsenal.
Stretch neck Fuhranky here we come
Can't find anything about Kotobuki. Is it spelled that way?
