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That is terrible to hear, I'm so sorry, Shuhan. Best wishes for your kitty and family, I really hope that everything works out. How are you managing? Feel free to message me about it if you need to chat or vent.

This completely checks out with my report on you, which means that you are off my list of murder suspects. BUT YOU ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST OF ATTEMPTED MURDER SUSPECTS!!!

Give me a little time to paraphrase, I don't want to copy-paste what Buggy said to me privately. I'll be right back.

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Last night, I attempted to watch Queen, the sneaky bastard. And I was successful. Here is the gist of my report:

I heard someone making noise in their sleep, but I couldn't make out what sort of noise or what was said. It turns out that what I heard was Queen.

For a moment, I thought that I saw them smiling. It seriously gave me the creeps.

They got up and started sneaking toward the exit, moving quietly but fast.

Suddenly, however, they stopped.

For a moment, they stood there, looking quizzically at the rubble at the far side of the exit from the first room.

Then, without doing anything else, they turned around and sneaked back into camp.

That's all, folks.

So, you should be able to see now why I'm fully convinced that Queen wasn't the murderer. But… this means that one of the rest of you is.

Now, if we account for all the people who did something "sneaky" last night (i.e. used their Stealth ability), we've got:

Queen, attempted murder. Watched by me, and read by Hannya-boy.

Batman, followed Hannya-boy. Read by Snowy-girl.

Nami, allegedly attempted theft. Read by Bat-boy, but she could have been trying something else… like murder.

Monet, allegedly attempted following. Read by no one. Very unusual. I don't know what to think.

Hannyabal, allegedly attempted following/watching. Read by no one. Not surprising if he actually was just watching, but very unusual if he was trying to follow. I don't know what to think.

I'm the only one that didn't try using stealth last night. Weird.

Hmmm putting this together with my thoughts… Points to Nami or Monet for me.

Either attempted but failed stealth doesn't actually trigger suspicion... Which would implicate Nami.
Or successful day actions increase willpower which shields from suspicion... Which would implicate Monet.

Xasy

But if Nami failed her Stealth action, why was she noticed as suspicious and not Monet, who also failed a Stealth action (follow) ?

This will make me look more suspicious, but I would rather be suspicious than establish a potentially false assumption going forward.

I have very willpower.

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I forgot a word.

SkullJoke

Of course, attempted but failed stealth could trigger suspicion and Nami could still be lying about the action she did.

starlalilymoon

Good thing I did unvote… now I'm not sure who killed Ussop

There really isn't enough evidence for me to want to lynch Monet, though I'm still sus about Queen. But Bon Clay's report checks him out. Hmmm.

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Wait, we could have done day actions? Whaaa? :blink:

That means... I could have tried to steal that gem from Hannybal, argh.

SkullJoke

I prefer finding the real murderer but attempted murderer Queen isnt a bad lynch option either.

Then again, even after getting rid of the murderers, someone else might decide to kill.

If you kill a killer, the total number of killers in the world stays the same.

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Good thing I did unvote… now I'm not sure who killed Ussop

There really isn't enough evidence for me to want to lynch Monet, though I'm still sus about Queen. But Bon Clay's report checks him out. Hmmm.

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Wait, we could have done day actions? Whaaa? :blink:

That means... I could have tried to steal that gem from Hannybal, argh.

I mean the things in this thread like "Try: open small box", etc.

starlalilymoon

I mean the things in this thread like "Try: open small box", etc.

Oh that! I still have a Try option since I wanted to help us craft something since my craft is high, but then Monet did that instead.

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Maybe we lynch Queen today for attempted murder? As I'm sure he might try again, and then we can watch each other, as I'm sure the killer might try to kill again during the night to make things easier for them.

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Speaking of, I do see another opening up this wall we been climbing. Hopefully I can find something there like food, so we can stop feeling so hungry and exhausted! ><
Try: Explore the cave/room to see if I find anything of use.

Kirbycide

I hate to do this, because I think that Snowy-girl's participation has been top-notch. I am also convinced that the murderer was either Monet or Nami, but Nami-chan's claim of attempted theft is very fitting. So…

Vote: Lynch Monet

Admitting to high willpower was admirable of you, but I cannot let the murderer of my friend go unpunished. Tomorrow I plan to lynch Queen, if I don't die in the night.

Xasy

I guess I should attempt to defend myself i_n some sense_. Some of you think I have been trying to shift blame away from myself and in response I would like to point out that so far I have:

Literally shown off that I still had the gem and destroying a potential alibi for myself.
Admitted that I have high stealth and could have done it.
Admitted that I have high willpower and could have gotten away with it.

I'm not acting out of self preservation here. I have consistently admitted to things that incriminate me for the sake of increasing the available knowledge to the group.

Jabberwok

I should be more precise in my language.

I attempted to Watch Monet, not follow. I also got a report in the morning that Queen was acting strange, not specifically suspicious.

Also, Nami, in case you're curious, the gem I got from Monet doesn't do much so no need to be jealous. It just glows. Monet can verify this is the case.

Kirbycide

I don't know how many actions we get to try per day, so here goes:

Try: Investigate Usopp's corpse for clues as to who murdered him or how he was murdered

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@Jabberwok:

I attempted to Watch Monet, not follow. I also got a report in the morning that Queen was acting strange, not specifically suspicious.

Thank you for clarifying. This only helps to solidify my suspicions of Monet.

starlalilymoon

@Jabberwok:

Also, Nami, in case you're curious, the gem I got from Monet doesn't do much so no need to be jealous. It just glows. Monet can verify this is the case.

Oh! Just a gem that glows… still, it is very shiny and I might get a lot of berries for it! o:

Sadly, I have nothing to trade currently, and not gonna even try to steal since the cat is out of the bag... since you know it be me.

Xasy

If anyone would like the ivy gloves you can request them, and I will give them away if my death looks inevitable.

Just keep in mind that requesting them will make it seem you have a lower athletics score, which could potentially be harmful if someone takes advantage of it.

I needed them because I have a magnificent athletics score of 1.

starlalilymoon

I don't know how many actions we get to try per day, so here goes:

I believe it is once per day?

**> Try: Investigate Usopp's corpse for clues as to who murdered him or how he was murdered

Now, I'm thinking of Phoenix Wright with this statement xD

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If anyone would like the ivy gloves you can request them, and I will give them away if my death looks inevitable.

I wouldn't mind having them, if we get to that point. I'm still hesitant to lynching you, I'm really not sure what to think currently. I thought for sure Queen was the killer, but Bon Clay's report confirmed he was telling the truth. Hmmm… this is hard x.x**

Jabberwok

Frankly, I'm not sure why a failed follow is any less suspicious than a failed theft. Either one could be a lie, but Monet has been quite upfront about her behaviors and stats and Nami has not.

And I hesitate to even suggest but perhaps it was a crime…of passion?! A lovers' quarrel gone wrong? I hear Nami and Usopp we're known to run off together more than once. scribbling furiously in diary

Vote Lynch: Nami

Xasy

Actually in the event of my imminent death I'll give my gloves to Batman, as an apology for harassing me. That way no one has to reveal anything about their stats.

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Thank you for clarifying. This only helps to solidify my suspicions of Monet.

Can I ask why? What about watching me is more suspicious than following? I've already admitted to having high stealth.

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Actually in the event of my imminent death I'll give my gloves to Batman, as an apology for harassing him. That way no one has to reveal anything about their stats.

Typo .

starlalilymoon

@Jabberwok:

And I hesitate to even suggest but perhaps it was a crime…of passion?! A lovers' quarrel gone wrong? I hear Nami and Usopp we're known to run off together more than once. scribbling furiously in diary

But Ussop was like a brother to me… that would be incest we were into each other like that! O_O

Anyways, if you curious about my stats -> Well, my stealth is pretty high, but my willpower is very low. And... my athletics isn't that great.. hence why i asked for the gloves, but I guess that already gave that away.

SkullJoke

So Monet's stealth was too high to be watched by Hannybal, but not high enough to follow Nami.
Yet Nami apparently didn't have enough stealth to steal from Monet. Theft would be… Stealth vs Perception? Athletics? Or Craft? I imagine athletics, but who knows?

I know there's some element of RNG with the dice rolls, but does this sound a bit off to anyone else?

starlalilymoon

I think in terms of lynching, we should lynch Queen, as we know for a fact they tried to kill, even it was failed. And I'm very sure they will try to kill again.

I'm not very sure on Monet, so we might have to wait for the night to see what happens and get more information to find the real killer. What do y'all think?

Kirbycide

Can I ask why? What about watching me is more suspicious than following? I've already admitted to having high stealth.

You may, Snowy-girl.

With the updated claim from Hannya-boy, we now know that you were the only person who attempted a stealthy maneuver last night who also avoided being read by anyone.

You are a wily one. I suspect that, knowing your Stealth and Willpower were very high, you believed you would be able to commit murder without anyone noticing. And you almost got away with it, too.

SkullJoke

Speaking of, I do see another opening up this wall we been climbing. Hopefully I can find something there like food, so we can stop feeling so hungry and exhausted! ><
Try: Explore the cave/room to see if I find anything of use.

Do you actually see openings? I wasn't able to try to explore the last one you said you saw.

starlalilymoon

Do you actually see openings? I wasn't able to try to explore the last one you said you saw.

I sure hope so! Or it might be the exhaustion getting to me x.x

SkullJoke

You may, Snowy-girl.

With the updated claim from Hannya-boy, we now know that you were the only person who attempted a stealthy maneuver last night who also avoided being read by anyone.

You are a wily one. I suspect that, knowing your Stealth and Willpower were very high, you believed you would be able to commit murder without anyone noticing. And you almost got away with it, too.

Or Nami is lying about the attempted theft.

Kirbycide

So Monet's stealth was too high to be watched by Hannybal, but not high enough to follow Nami.
Yet Nami apparently didn't have enough stealth to steal from Monet. Theft would be… Stealth vs Perception? Athletics? Or Craft? I imagine athletics, but who knows?

I know there's some element of RNG with the dice rolls, but does this sound a bit off to anyone else?

Yes, it sounds very off. I suspect that Snowy-girl is lying about her night action, otherwise she should have easily been able to follow Nami-chan.

Miss Nami, would you be willing to let us know what your Perception score is?

Xasy

Following is purely a stealth role. It isn't compared to the other persons stats in any way.

My stealth is 4. I can still fail a role.

Kirbycide

Or Nami is lying about the attempted theft.

This is a possibility, but it doesn't explain why Miss Harpy's stealth was both too high for Hannyabal, yet too low for Nami.

starlalilymoon

Miss Nami, would you be willing to let us know what your Perception score is?

It is max - 5 ^^

SkullJoke

Following is purely a stealth role. It isn't compared to the other persons stats in any way.

My stealth is 4. I can still fail a role.

Ohh I thought it was a stealth vs stealth.

Xasy

This is a possibility, but it doesn't explain why Miss Harpy's stealth was both too high for Hannyabal, yet too low for Nami.

You keep saying you know how stats work, but I don't think you do.

You understand there's an RNG element to this right?

Kirbycide

Ohh I thought it was a stealth vs stealth.

I also thought this. It makes more sense for it to be a contest, I think.

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You keep saying you know how stats work, but I don't think you do.

You understand there's an RNG element to this right?

Yes, I understand, but the more we know about the actual numbers, the more we can also know about the probabilities, since Buggy-boy was so kind to tell us what these were tuned to.

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Okay, then.

Unvote

If Nami-chan had said that her Perception was low, then I would have been completely convinced of Snowy-girl's guilt. Now, I need to do some reviewing of the thread to collect my thoughts.

Xasy

Which is why I've been so generous with my stats.

This is turning into genuine frustration and I'm tempted to just try eating these ivy gloves, voting to lynch myself, and not looking back until the game is over.

starlalilymoon

I think in terms of lynching, we should lynch Queen, as we know for a fact they tried to kill, even it was failed. And I'm very sure they will try to kill again.

I'm not very sure on Monet, so we might have to wait for the night to see what happens and get more information to find the real killer. What do y'all think?

I still think we should just lynch Queen for attempted murder and work on trying to figure out who the real killer is the next day. We can use our night actions, since we might except them to murder again, whoever they are.

Kirbycide

Thank you, Nami-chan and Monet-san for your cooperation, by the way. I do hope that our friendship can continue to blossom in this hellish place.

starlalilymoon

You're welcome! ^^

Yeah, hopefully we can escape this place and of course find the real killer who killed my friend… Ussop really was like a brother to me you know?

But I guess I start the bandwagon for Queen, since it is a safe bet, I'm sure they might kill again. I probably try to use a better night action like watch or follow, to help uncover the truth. Wish we had more evidence to nail Ussop's murderer.

Vote Lynch: Queen

Xasy

Okay, then.

Unvote

If Nami-chan had said that her Perception was low, then I would have been completely convinced of Snowy-girl's guilt. Now, I need to do some reviewing of the thread to collect my thoughts.

I'm digging my own grave here, again.

But how does Nami's perception even factor in here? Following another play does not take that players perception into account.

SkullJoke

I'm digging my own grave here, again.

But how does Nami's perception even factor in here? Following another play does not take that players perception into account.

I was wondering the same thing, actually

Kirbycide

I'm digging my own grave here, again.

But how does Nami's perception even factor in here? Following another play does not take that players perception into account.

You make a fair point. I am waiting for some clarification on how the follow action works.

Frankly, I'm surprised that Nami isn't voting for you. The murderer was definitely one of you two… unless someone else is doing a great job of pulling the wool over our eyes.

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Just to be clear, I was working under the assumption that the follow action contested your stealth vs. the target's perception or stealth. If I was wrong, then I sincerely apologize for confusing everyone.

Xasy

@kmohyudin:

Everyone can do one action per night. Be imaginative in your actions, you can use your attributes to think of stuff that you want to do. For example:

You can kill, which will be a battle between your stealth vs the targets athletics
You can follow someone, which will be roll of the dice on your stealth
You can try to watch, which will be a battle between your perception vs their stealth
etc.

Think of what you want to do, you have 24 hours to decide.

What clarification is needed here?

starlalilymoon

Frankly, I'm surprised that Nami isn't voting for you. The murderer was definitely one of you two… unless someone else is doing a great job of pulling the wool over our eyes.

I mean, I'm not really sure if she killed or not, hence my hesitation. There is a little suspicion sure, but not enough for me to want to lynch her. I really thought for sure that the killer was Queen, and now I'm just stumped

SkullJoke

What clarification is needed here?

When I first read it, I thought the "your" was plural. :happy:

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I mean, I'm not really sure if she killed or not, hence my hesitation. There is a little suspicion sure, but not enough for me to want to lynch her. I really thought for sure that the killer was Queen, and now I'm just stumped

Not much to be stumped by. Pretty much all the evidence we have puts it between you or her. And you would know if it's not you

Kirbycide

Not much to be stumped by. Pretty much all the evidence we have puts it between you or her. And you would know if it's not you

To be fair, there is a chance that you performed the murder and then lied about your report on Hannya-boy.

And, just to make sure we're checking all the boxes, it's also possible that I performed the murder and am fabricating my report on Queen, knowing that he would have been late to the kill.

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But, then again, I didn't have anyone get a "strange" report on my night actions... and my Willpower isn't very high.

Xasy

I mean, I'm not really sure if she killed or not, hence my hesitation. There is a little suspicion sure, but not enough for me to want to lynch her. I really thought for sure that the killer was Queen, and now I'm just stumped

Iwould like to point out that earlier today Nami used the same "new player that doesn't understand what's going on" shtick to lie about not performing a night action.

SkullJoke

Monet, if I may ask, how do you think you managed to open that box yesterday with such low Athletics?

starlalilymoon

Iwould like to point out that earlier today Nami used the same "new player that doesn't understand what's going on" shtick to lie about not performing a night action.

Well, I did want to hide the fact that I had a failed theft attempt.

Xasy

I have five craft, and Buggy interpreted me trying to pick up the box as me trying to pick the box

SkullJoke

Ohhh, you are a crafty one, I see

starlalilymoon