Lost media search for the og Skypiea Cartoon Network episodes (All Episodes Found!)

wjbraden

Hi there!

A few weeks ago LSuperSonicQ's video about your search made its way into my feed and I was happy to find out it was talking about the forgotten CN broadcast version of Skypiea. As an avid supporter of this dub from the beginning I made sure to download the TV rips as they were posted on this very forum almost 15 years ago, even the Australian/New Zealand airings.

I knew I had these stashed on a very old external drive, stored away somewhere in my parents' home. It was retrieved, and spent about a week shipping across the country, but as of now the drive is back in my possession, and while it doesn't seem like I have every episode on hand, I do have all the missing episodes you seek! I'm not sure how often you check this thread, but I'll try to DM you as well so I can get these in your hands.

Oh wow that's awesome news!!! Thanks so much for going above and beyond to do this! If you want to send them my way via mega in my dms or this thread, that'd be great.

Can't wait to see them!

Dragon Warrior Steve

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Dragon Warrior Steve

I also found this little gem in another folder.

wjbraden

And with that y'all, all 52 episodes have been secured and uploaded to the Mega folder!
Big thanks to everyone who helped contribute on this very, very long journey and getting back this very important piece of dub history!

As for what's next….well there are still select episodes that are only 320x480 and not the best of quality (but I'm for sure not losing any sleep over it lol). Should anyone else come across more high quality stuff though, please feel free to post them here!

Also, I'm thinking about doing full episode comparisons with the Voyages sorta like DBZ Uncensored / or the 4kids episode guide Cinder used to have back in the day (and has talked about rebooting that in some form.... :ninja:), but we'll see!

-Wjbraden out

Md-Martin

Damn Steve coming in for the clutch.

wjbraden

For real my dude, for real XD

Captain Krupp

AWESOMESAUCE MAN! Thank god you could find them all!!!

Snowmint

Everyone here agrees the edited dub originally got cancelled because of the CN regime change and the push to have no anime on the network… Is that correct?

Dragon Warrior Steve

@Snowmint:

Everyone here agrees the edited dub originally got cancelled because of the CN regime change and the push to have no anime on the network… Is that correct?

Definitely a regime change. Jason DeMarco and a lot of the original Toonami crew were taken off the block beforehand I believe. The Toonami block filled some slots with Bakugan and Ben 10 Alien Force and I don't think the block made it to the end of the year. Anime was phased out in favor of original animation, and the loathed CN Real shows.

wjbraden

@Dragon:

Definitely a regime change. Jason DeMarco and a lot of the original Toonami crew were taken off the block beforehand I believe. The Toonami block filled some slots with Bakugan and Ben 10 Alien Force and I don't think the block made it to the end of the year. Anime was phased out in favor of original animation, and the loathed CN Real shows.

Yep, but at least from Funimation's point of view, there was a glimmer of hope that they'd buy more episodes, as they kept rolling on ahead with editing things until episode 174. Digging through the threads, a person closely associated with the editing process by the name "Ummyeahokay", said that the edited versions of the episodes actually went through episode 179, but the last few were "not mixed" for broadcast (unfortunately, nobody here even believed them that when they said the Australian broadcast would likely switch over to the uncut version because the editing not being competed, until after the actual airing of episode 175 there).

Strange times indeed, thankfully Cartoon Network Australia stepped up to give us what they had at the time (or else it would've been almost three full years until we finally saw the rest of Skypeia dubbed on the Voyages from where Toonami left off!)

Oh and by the way Steve, I checked those other copies you gave me, with the exception of one rip that had a stray commercial bumper on it, all the other rips were identical to what I have, so we're good. You have my contact though if you need to reach me for anything or vice-versa. Once again, can't thank you enough for your help!

Dragon Warrior Steve

@wjbraden:

Yep, but at least from Funimation's point of view, there was a glimmer of hope that they'd buy more episodes, as they kept rolling on ahead with editing things until episode 174. Digging through the threads, a person closely associated with the editing process by the name "Ummyeahokay", said that the edited versions of the episodes actually went through episode 179, but the last few were "not mixed" for broadcast (unfortunately, nobody here even believed them that when they said the Australian broadcast would likely switch over to the uncut version because the editing not being competed, until after the actual airing of episode 175 there).

Strange times indeed, thankfully Cartoon Network Australia stepped up to give us what they had at the time (or else it would've been almost three full years until we finally saw the rest of Skypeia dubbed on the Voyages from where Toonami left off!)

Oh and by the way Steve, I checked those other copies you gave me, with the exception of one rip that had a stray commercial bumper on it, all the other rips were identical to what I have, so we're good. You have my contact though if you need to reach me for anything or vice-versa. Once again, can't thank you enough for your help!

I was delighted to help with your project! You probably have a few better quality rips than I do for earlier eps so I'm gonna take a look.

I don't think even some of the actors were aware it aired in Austrailia. It's been so long, but I recall Tatum just taken aback some fans were familiar with his performance.

wjbraden

@Dragon:

I was delighted to help with your project! You probably have a few better quality rips than I do for earlier eps so I'm gonna take a look.

I don't think even some of the actors were aware it aired in Austrailia. It's been so long, but I recall Tatum just taken aback some fans were familiar with his performance.

Oh sure by all means - those are all 640 x 480 and the most "complete" versions that were floating around out there to my knowledge.

And yeah, probably no one outside of licensing and delivering the show to CN AU were aware of it. I do wonder if they ever went back and made edited version of the rest of Skypiea in hopes another network here in the states would pick it up (or if they even did alternate edited takes from the beginning of East Blue). It's probably been so long no one involved would even remember haha.

Snowmint

Currently Funimation still edits dragon ball for international countries even though it airs uncut in the US.

LostTimeLord

@Snowmint:

Currently Funimation still edits dragon ball for international countries even though it airs uncut in the US.

Kinda, but it's worth bearing in mind that:

In the UK, Dragon Ball Super switched to the 'uncut dub' in the same way that One Piece did in Australia ("Hercule" reverted to "Mr Satan" part way through the run, for example). I don't know if an 'edited dub' was used for those later episodes in other countries.
The edited version of DBS doesn't use re-drawn animation like the edited DBZ and OP did. Problematic shots are simply cut out or substituted with footage from elsewhere in the episode.

I suspect that edited dialogue exists for all of Skypiea as audio tracks, but they never applied the necessary visual/animation edits. The dialogue itself is the only element of an edited dub that can't be applied later by any editor at Funi/Toei, and it would be a pain to record retroactively.

wjbraden

@LostTimeLord:

Kinda, but it's worth bearing in mind that:

In the UK, Dragon Ball Super switched to the 'uncut dub' in the same way that One Piece did in Australia ("Hercule" reverted to "Mr Satan" part way through the run, for example). I don't know if an 'edited dub' was used for those later episodes in other countries.

The edited version of DBS doesn't use re-drawn animation like the edited DBZ and OP did. Problematic shots are simply cut out or substituted with footage from elsewhere in the episode.

I don't believe episodes 53+ of Super have run on any other children's outlet that would require an edited version, so it doesn't appear so (which is odd they would only create a separate version for half the show - maybe covid had something to do with that?).

@LostTimeLord:

I suspect that edited dialogue exists for all of Skypiea as audio tracks, but they never applied the necessary visual/animation edits. The dialogue itself is the only element of an edited dub that can't be applied later by any editor at Funi/Toei, and it would be a pain to record retroactively.

Yes, that would make sense, especially since in episode 179 I found that "Light the Fire of Loftra" slipped in by accident, so the only thing left unfinished probably would have been the visual censorship.

By the way, I did comparisons for the first couple of episodes if anyone wants to check them out. There are indeed several lines out the get-go that were revised later on for the Voyages. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1T4viNDD0QXesMioRE7Wg5hOs576p0BQ7

LostTimeLord

@wjbraden:

odd they would only create a separate version for half the show - maybe covid had something to do with that?

Pop switched to the Toonami dub in late 2019, so it wouldn't have been COVID. The switch also didn't line up with their 'season' breaks, so I assume that they simply got what they were given.

wjbraden

@LostTimeLord:

Pop switched to the Toonami dub in late 2019, so it wouldn't have been COVID. The switch also didn't line up with their 'season' breaks, so I assume that they simply got what they were given.

Yeah, I actually had a discussion about that today and realized the timing was off there.

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One thing I'm kind of curious about - the exact timeframe season 3 dubbing ended and Season 1 started. According to the post I linked on the previous page, up to episode 179 was apparently "completed well before it left CN", which would've been March of 2008. So, I guess it's possible all, or most of Skypeia (and presumably G8 up to episode 205) was mostly finished by that point, but then the very first Voyage also came in April 2008 (a month earlier before the street date courtesy of ritestuff), so that needed to have been started some months before that. I know dubbing out of order isn't uncommon per say, but was there a point where they were they actually recording both seasons simultaneously? It's no wonder Funi got their wires crossed so much with this stuff if that's the case.

Dragon Warrior Steve

@wjbraden:

Yeah, I actually had a discussion about that today and realized the timing was off there.

–- Update From New Post Merge ---

One thing I'm kind of curious about - the exact timeframe season 3 dubbing ended and Season 1 started. According to the post I linked on the previous page, up to episode 179 was apparently "completed well before it left CN", which would've been March of 2008. So, I guess it's possible all, or most of Skypeia (and presumably G8 up to episode 205) was mostly finished by that point, but then the very first Voyage also came in April 2008 (a month earlier before the street date courtesy of ritestuff), so that needed to have been started some months before that. I know dubbing out of order isn't uncommon per say, but was there a point where they were they actually recording both seasons simultaneously? It's no wonder Funi got their wires crossed so much with this stuff if that's the case.

They were definitely recording OP in multiple booths at the time. I would assume they went back to doing Season 1 around that time, but I can't say that for sure.

Snowmint

I'm still baffled the op funi edited toonami dub didn't keep the static blood in while Naruto and DBZ airings did