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American Politics: A Brand New Day
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@pariston_hill said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
@JulieYBM said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Further proof for cis people in denial that we're being culled.
I know this a serious matter but I can't help myself from posting this.
Speedwagon, the ultimate ally.Well, Speedwagon was friends with so many bisexual men. It's hardly a surprise.
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@pariston_hill said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
I'm sure Texas' AG has no nefarious plan in mind when creating a secret list of trans people in the state.
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/14/texas-attorney-general-sought-data-on-gender-changes-to-state-idsIn the same state where they have made it illegal for trans children to get the care that science has shown is the best for them? In the same state where affirming parents of trans children can be prosecuted? In the same state where people can alert the authorities of a home with a trans child?
Nah, it couldn't be. Nothing to worry about here. Nope.
Sarcasm aside this is f'ing terrifying. Exactly what level will the "limited government, freedom-loving" state of Texas being willing to sink to?
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Yeah, it's really scary. I can't stomach the thought of other trans people—espeically trans kids—being round up like this is really beginning to lead towards.
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Day 699: "This can never happen again."
1/ The Jan. 6 Committee formally accused Trump of inciting an insurrection, conspiracy to defraud the U.S., and obstructing Congress' Jan. 6 joint session, and unanimously voted to refer the crimes to the Justice Department for prosecution. "That evidence has led to an overriding and straight-forward conclusion: the central cause of January 6th was one man, former President Donald Trump, who many others followed," the committee wrote in its final report. "None of the events of January 6th would have happened without him." It's the first time in American history that Congress has referred a former president for criminal prosecution. Trump was also the first president in American history to be impeached twice. In addition to Trump's criminal referrals, the panel referred Mark Meadows, Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman, Jeffrey Clark, and Kenneth Chesebro for prosecution. None of the committee's referrals, however, compel the Justice Department to act. The panel also referred four Republicans – Kevin McCarthy, Jim Jordan, Scott Perry, and Andy Biggs – to the House Ethics Committee for ignoring the its subpoenas. "Faith in our system is the foundation of American democracy. If the faith is broken, so is our democracy," Chairman Bennie Thompson said. "Donald Trump broke that faith. He lost the 2020 election and knew it, but he chose to try to stay in office through a multi-part scheme." Thompson added: "This can never happen again." (New York Times / Washington Post / Politico / Associated Press / Wall Street Journal / Bloomberg / NBC News / CNN / NPR)
️ Trump faces a week of headaches on Jan. 6 and his taxes. "The House panel investigating the Capitol attack is set to release its report and may back criminal charges against the former president, while a separate committee could decide to release his tax returns. (New York Times)https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/18/us/politics/trump-january-6-tax-returns.html
️ How Trump jettisoned restraints at Mar-a-Lago and prompted legal peril. "Trump transplanted the chaos and norm flouting of his White House into his post-presidential life, leading to a criminal investigation into his handling of classified documents that presents potential legal peril." (Washington Post)https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/12/18/trump-life-after-presidency/
2/ The House Ways and Means Committee is expected to vote Tuesday on whether to make six years of Trump's tax records public. Following a three-year court fight for the tax returns – which other presidents have routinely made public since the 1970s – the committee obtained Trump's returns from the Treasury Department last month. The tax returns cover 2015 through 2020. The panel needs a simple majority vote to release Trump's returns, and Democrats hold 25 of the committee's 42 seats. (NBC News / New York Times / Politico / Wall Street Journal / CNN / Bloomberg)
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/16/politics/trump-taxes-house-committee-meeting/
3/ A federal appeals court rejected an effort by 19 Republican-led states to keep a Trump-era border policy in place, which allowed border agents to expel migrants for public health reasons during the coronavirus pandemic before they could go through the asylum application process. The states, however, filed an emergency appeal to the Supreme Court to keep Title 42 in place. More than 2.4 million people have been expelled since the policy's implementation in 2020. The public health measure is set to expire on Wednesday after a federal judge ruled in November that the policy was illegal. (Washington Post / USA Today / CNN / Politico / Washington Post / Wall Street Journal)
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/19/politics/white-house-border-title-42/index.html
4/ The Senate gave final approval to an $858 billion defense spending bill, which increases the Pentagon's budget by 8%, authorizes a 4.6% pay raise for military service members, and repeals the coronavirus vaccine mandate for troops. The bill is about $45 billion more than Biden's budget request, and roughly 10% more than last year's National Defense Authorization Act. It now heads to Biden for his expected signature. (New York Times / USA Today / CBS News)
5/ The national average for gasoline dropped to $3.14 a gallon – the lowest since July 2021. In June, prices spiked to an all-time record of $5.02 a gallon. (CNN)
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/19/economy/gas-prices-inflation-economy/index.html
6/ Nearly half of 18-to-29-year-olds live at home with their parents – a rate not seen since the end of the Great Depression. According to a new report, the rising number of young adults living at home has been "driven by financial concerns (i.e. rental costs) as well as other sociological factors (e.g. higher penetration of higher education and increasingly delayed age for marriage)." The top reasons for living at home were a desire to save money (51%) and inability to afford rent (39%). Interest rates, meanwhile, are at a 15-year high, mortgage rates are at their highest levels since 2001, and interest rates on credit cards are at their highest level since 1985. (Quartz / Bloomberg)
poll/ 65% of Americans say the country is on the wrong track and not headed in the right direction. From a list of issues, 35% of respondents ranked inflation/the economy is their top priority. "Threats to democracy" ranked second, at 12%, and immigration third at 10%. (USA Today)
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Can someone explain me the talks I'm hearing about new evidence of CIA's involvement in JFK's assassination, but because the cunt Trucker Carlson is the one that covered/covering it makes it, by default, to fall in the field to conspiracy. Man if only he wasn't an Agency loving, and if his father wasn't on the Agency.
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Day 700: "A new political weapon."
By Matt Kiser
1/ The Jan. 6 Committee is cooperating with the Justice Department's investigation into Trump. After Attorney General Merrick Garland appointed Jack Smith as special counsel last month, Smith requested the evidence that committee compiled over its 18-month investigation. The committee has nearly 1,200 witness interview transcripts, which it began sending to Smith's team last week. The committee also sent the Justice Department all of Mark Meadows' text messages and related evidence. (Punchbowl News)
https://punchbowl.news/?p=17308
2/ Congressional leaders reached an agreement on a $1.7 trillion spending package to fund the government through September. The so-called omnibus, which runs for 4,155 pages, would provide $858 billion in defense funding, $772.5 billion for non-defense discretionary programs, $44.9 billion in emergency assistance to Ukraine, and about $40 billion in emergency funds to help communities recover from hurricanes, wildfires, and droughts. The package increases the Justice Department budget by $212.1 million "to further support prosecutions related to the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol and domestic terrorism cases." The legislation also includes an overhaul of the Electoral Count Act, which Trump tried to use to overturn the 2020 election. Congress needs to complete passage of the funding measure ahead of a midnight Friday deadline or face a partial government shutdown going into the Christmas holiday. Any senator, however, could hold up that deal in exchange for amendments or concessions. (Associated Press / Washington Post / New York Times / CNN / Politico / Axios)
https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-3e0fef206f524f6b1b67f7c36178a688
3/ The U.S. Postal Service will buy at least 66,000 electric delivery trucks by 2028 as part of a push to transform its delivery fleet. The Postal Service will spend $9.6 billion on the vehicles, including $3 billion from the Inflation Reduction Act, and all new vehicles acquired from 2026 through 2028 are expected to be 100% electric. The USPS currently has more than 220,000 old vehicles in its fleet. (Washington Post / CBS News / CNN / CNBC)
4/ The Supreme Court blocked a pandemic-era border policy from ending this week. Chief Justice John Roberts put a lower court ruling to end the Trump-era policy on a temporary hold in response to an emergency request by 19 Republican-led states to keep the policy in place. Title 42 has been used more than 2 million times during the pandemic to expel asylum-seeking migrants. (NBC News / Politico)
Notably Next/ The House Ways and Means Committee is expected to vote this afternoon on whether to publicly release Trump's tax returns. The committee tried to obtain six years' worth of Trump's tax returns in 2019, after Democrats retook the House majority. Unlike his predecessors, Trump never released his tax returns to the public, falsely claiming that he couldn't release them while under "routine audit" by the IRS. In 2020, it was reported that Trump had paid $750 in federal income taxes in 2016, and another $750 in 2017. The tax data covered more than two decades and show that Trump had paid no income tax in 10 of the 15 years before he ran for president. Before the committee's meeting, the committee's top Republican called any release of Trump's tax records a "dangerous new political weapon" that "even Democrats will come to regret." (New York Times / CNN / Washington Post / Bloomberg / Associated Press)
https://apnews.com/article/business-donald-trump-richard-neal-c697c4e300948a9e2638d0d9fbbe2f96
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Didn’t know this was thing being considered for legislation or that Rand Paul paraphrases shit that people like Mitch McConnell has said.
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The full report of the January 6 House committee, for any who want to read it firsthand
News articles seem to be picking up mostly on Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony, specifically that early on Trump said to Mark Meadows "I don't want people to know we lost. It's embarrassing."
There's also a section of testimony (not sure from who) that Trump did want the National Guard in DC... as a procession for his rally.
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So...that George dos Santos guy huh...people from Long Island really elected brazilian George Costanza and here I thought LATAM croocked politicians were quarantined in Florida.
Oh and what's the deal with republicans blocking McCarthy on the house? - cue to Seinfeld bass track - -
Honestly it's not surprising Santos won in the district held by Suozzi, a guy who turned right wing after winning his election and then even further when he wanted to run for Governor.
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Day 714: "We better come together."
1/ The House adjourned without a speaker because Kevin McCarthy failed to win a majority in three rounds of voting and 20 Republicans rejected his candidacy. Until a speaker is elected, the 118th Congress can't swear in members or perform actual work, like consider legislation or create committee assignments. A nominee needs a majority of the House to win the speakership – 218 votes with all members present and participating – and voting will continue until someone gets a majority. In the third round of voting, McCarthy received 202 votes and Jim Jordan received 20. Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries received 212 Democratic votes. Before the third round of voting, Jordan called on Republicans to unite behind McCarthy, saying: "We better come together. I think Kevin McCarthy is the right guy to lead us. I really do." McCarthy, however, lost support from one GOP lawmaker on the third ballot. McCarthy, meanwhile, acknowledged that voting "could" last for days and vowed to press ahead, saying: "we stay in until we win." The speaker vote hasn't gone to a second ballot since 1923, and of the 14 multiple ballot-elections for House speaker, 13 occurred before the Civil War. (Bloomberg / Washington Post / New York Times / Wall Street Journal / CNN / Politico / NPR / Associated Press / NBC News / ABC News)
2/ New York Republican George Santos – who admitted to making up his resume – is set to be sworn in as a member of the House as Brazilian authorities say they plan to reopen a 15-year-old fraud charge against Santos, now that they know where he is. The House, however, can't swear in new members until a speaker is elected. Santos has admitted to what he calls "resume embellishment" about his education, work experience, and heritage, including a claim that his grandparents survived the Holocaust. The Rio de Janeiro prosecutor's office, meanwhile, allege that Santos spent $700 at a clothing store in 2008 using a stolen checkbook and a false name. Although Santos admitted in a post on social media to stealing the checkbook of a man his mother was caring for, the Representative-elect now asserts that he is not a criminal "here or in Brazil." While Democrats have demanded that Santos resign, Republican congressional leaders, including Kevin McCarthy, have been silent. (New York Times / Associated Press / Washington Post / Politico / CNN / Wall Street Journal / Bloomberg)
https://apnews.com/article/george-santos-house-of-representatives-d65613ce8bcda757bf3b89c3d0fcfa82
3/ House Republicans plan to limit the ethics office's ability to investigate lawmakers. The Office of Congressional Ethics is a nonpartisan, independent body tasked with investigating complaints of misconduct about sitting members and staff. House Republicans, however, plan to place term limits on the eight-person OCE board, require the approval of four board members for new hires, and allow the House Ethics Committee to take complaints directly from the public. (Wall Street Journal / Washington Post)
4/ Six years of Trump's federal tax returns were released last week. Trump received income from more than a dozen countries during his time in office and paid little in federal income taxes the first and last year of his presidency, claiming large losses that he carried forward to reduce or practically eliminate his tax burden. Trump paid $641,931 in federal income taxes in 2015 – the year he began his presidential campaign – he paid $750 in 2016 and 2017, and nearly $1 million in 2018. In 2019, Trump paid $133,445 and nothing in 2020. The documents also appear to show that Trump violated his campaign promise to donate his $400,000 salary for each year that he served as president. In 2020, Trump reported $0 in charitable giving. (CNN / Politico / New York Times / Washington Post / CNBC / Associated Press)
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-federal-tax-returns-updates-290dd5b563d8d829ee8b89ab4471d2e2
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@JulieYBM said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
@pariston_hill said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
I'm sure Texas' AG has no nefarious plan in mind when creating a secret list of trans people in the state.
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/14/texas-attorney-general-sought-data-on-gender-changes-to-state-idsFurther proof for cis people in denial that we're being culled.
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I'm seriously hoping we don't have to start some sort of Underground Railroad for trans people.
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@Satsuki said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
I'm seriously hoping we don't have to start some sort of Underground Railroad for trans people.
Speak of the Devil: a new bill in Oklahoma would make it a felony to provide gender-affirming care to anyone under the age of 26. https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1610944242607685633
The mid-20s are around where transfemme bodies undergo further masculinization, which means that it would be even harder for HRT alone to repair the damage done to transfemme bodies without expensive surgeries.
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@Demon-Rin said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
@JulieYBM They're testing how far they can push it.
Outright bans on Gender Affirming care period for any age are right around the corner.
Yup, they absolutely are. If DeSantis wins 2024 I am sure that he'll ban gender-affirming care outright.
This is just a worse witch hunt using the same tactics used against the cis gay people in 2004.
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Just to be clear about why it's obvious that's the end goal:
The minimum age to join the Army is currently 17.
None of these ghouls think that's too low for the Army.The decision to join the army is a decision one needs to make with the full understanding that there's a non-zero chance you will be required to kill another human being. That there's a non-zero chance you yourself will be killed.
That's apparently a decision they think a 17 year old is fully capable of understanding and making.
But that same 17 year old apparently can't understand the medical process and ramifications of being transgender and needs to be refused that care and won't be ready to make that kind of decision... FOR NINE YEARS!!!
It's obvious they're doing this because it's common knowledge that the earlier you start HRT the better effects it will have, especially for Trans Femmes so they want to stop that. Ideally they want trans folks to think it's not worth if if they start after 26 (which isn't true but it's easy for a depression brain to convince a person IS true) and to just give up and not transition.
Then in 2024, President DeSantis will sign a unilateral ban. Because of course that's the end game here.
I wonder if PickMes like Buck Angel, Blaire White, and Caitlyn Jenner will still be on their side at that point?
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Definitely going to have to start an Underground Railroad to New England or California at this rate.
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@Demon-Rin said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
I wonder if PickMes like Buck Angel, Blaire White, and Caitlyn Jenner will still be on their side at that point?
Yes, the laws apply for thee not for me. Well mainly the last one that has enough money to be accounted on the same strata american politics pander to: rich people, if the family was already rich by 1920s the better.
This culture war the right has been fighting globally in order to curb class conciseness it's getting kind old already. If the rich keep feeding the serpent's egg, it will generate another political leader that will enforce the full force on european colonialism on the global north, again.
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Dunno if anyone's been following what's been going on at the House, but Kevin Mccarthy continues to fail to become Speaker of it. We're at nine attempts and failures and counting.
Throughout the whole thing the Democrats' House Leader, Hakeen Jeffries, has had the most votes (202) but this requires an actual majority (218 or higher) not a plurality/simple majority.
Democrats have literally been bringing popcorn to watch the shitshow unfold.
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@Demon-Rin said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Just to be clear about why it's obvious that's the end goal:
The minimum age to join the Army is currently 17.
None of these ghouls think that's too low for the Army.The decision to join the army is a decision one needs to make with the full understanding that there's a non-zero chance you will be required to kill another human being. That there's a non-zero chance you yourself will be killed.
That's apparently a decision they think a 17 year old is fully capable of understanding and making.
But that same 17 year old apparently can't understand the medical process and ramifications of being transgender and needs to be refused that care and won't be ready to make that kind of decision... FOR NINE YEARS!!!
It's obvious they're doing this because it's common knowledge that the earlier you start HRT the better effects it will have, especially for Trans Femmes so they want to stop that. Ideally they want trans folks to think it's not worth if if they start after 26 (which isn't true but it's easy for a depression brain to convince a person IS true) and to just give up and not transition.
Then in 2024, President DeSantis will sign a unilateral ban. Because of course that's the end game here.
I wonder if PickMes like Buck Angel, Blaire White, and Caitlyn Jenner will still be on their side at that point?
@Demon-Rin said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Just to be clear about why it's obvious that's the end goal:
The minimum age to join the Army is currently 17.
None of these ghouls think that's too low for the Army.The decision to join the army is a decision one needs to make with the full understanding that there's a non-zero chance you will be required to kill another human being. That there's a non-zero chance you yourself will be killed.
That's apparently a decision they think a 17 year old is fully capable of understanding and making.
But that same 17 year old apparently can't understand the medical process and ramifications of being transgender and needs to be refused that care and won't be ready to make that kind of decision... FOR NINE YEARS!!!
It's obvious they're doing this because it's common knowledge that the earlier you start HRT the better effects it will have, especially for Trans Femmes so they want to stop that. Ideally they want trans folks to think it's not worth if if they start after 26 (which isn't true but it's easy for a depression brain to convince a person IS true) and to just give up and not transition.
Then in 2024, President DeSantis will sign a unilateral ban. Because of course that's the end game here.
I wonder if PickMes like Buck Angel, Blaire White, and Caitlyn Jenner will still be on their side at that point?
Yeah, exactly. I know that when I started HRT at 28 (today marks four years) I was going in already knowing that I was basically doing damage control. It's never too late but my mental health would've been so much better if I had started HRT in 2002-2008.
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And that "care" that they're blocking from teenagers is the ability to block puberty, and it is a temporary thing that can be reversed if when they get older they decide they are not trans.
Blocking teens from puberty blockers is insanely unjustifiable and cruel, in of itself. But puberty blockers are not what the Republican base hear about, they hear about hormone replacement therapy for 4 year olds and boys' genitalia being chopped off. It's straight up disinformation and they need to be held accountable for this. Does the truth about anything not matter? Why can't we hold our politicians to the fire for lying and harming people for no reason?
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@Envy said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Does the truth about anything not matter?
Yes, as a society we reached the point of this video:
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@sgamer82 said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Dunno if anyone's been following what's been going on at the House, but Kevin Mccarthy continues to fail to become Speaker of it. We're at nine attempts and failures and counting.
We’re now up to twelve. Though he’s apparently managed to flip at least 14 republicans who opposed him previously.
Also Biden awarded medals to civilians who fought against Trump’s election bullshit.
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The state I'm in, Arizona is trying to ban drag with a vague enough description that any visibly trans person in a public space could be argued to be engaging in it.
God.... damnit....
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@Demon-Rin said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
The state I'm in, Arizona is trying to ban drag with a vague enough description that any visibly trans person in a public space could be argued to be engaging in it.
God.... damnit....
Ugh, I'm so sorry. This is utter shit. Fuck this shit.
If you are lucky enough to be able to move up here to my state we have a hell of an awesome community. I wish there was something more I could do or say.
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@Time-Control-Magician said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
@sgamer82 said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Dunno if anyone's been following what's been going on at the House, but Kevin Mccarthy continues to fail to become Speaker of it. We're at nine attempts and failures and counting.
We’re now up to twelve. Though he’s apparently managed to flip at least 14 republicans who opposed him previously.
Also Biden awarded medals to civilians who fought against Trump’s election bullshit.
McCarthy finally managed it at, I think, the 14th attempt. Now the Republicans get to sort out what the rules are and what the Speaker of the house actually gets to do
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@Demon-Rin said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
I wonder if PickMes like Buck Angel, Blaire White, and Caitlyn Jenner will still be on their side at that point?
EDIT: Disregard my previous text.
I misremembered past events, my bad.Kaiolino got weirdly defensive over Anita Sarkeesian, not Blaire White.
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@Demon-Rin said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
The state I'm in, Arizona is trying to ban drag with a vague enough description that any visibly trans person in a public space could be argued to be engaging in it.
God.... damnit....
Hang in there. AZ at least elected a Democratic governor. Hobbs can veto this crap.
But if these bills pop up in states like OK, TX, FL, etc. then there's nothing to stop them there.
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@Envy said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Hang in there. AZ at least elected a Democratic governor. Hobbs can veto this crap.
Addressing an issue is not a way to perpetually campaign on "addressing the issues" train. This type of legislation shouldn't even be writing in the first place.
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So long as you have miserable awful people with shitty views electing others like them.
The cycle will never end…..at least not in our lifetimes.
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@Time-Control-Magician said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
So long as you have miserable awful people with shitty views electing others like them.
Well yes, there awful shitty people voting in awful shitty people to represent them. But that's a very cynic dumb down version of things.
It's the same as saying why so many pop culture productions are coopted by fascists and far righters because they can't comprehend the work. While there are dumb people consuming culture and there are people without media literacy it doesn't address the fact that pop culture still uses semiotics created by Riefenstahl.
On the political spectrum those ideologies thrive because:
- capitalism has shown that it will always side with authoritarianism or fascist over workers right and public welfare as a way to maintain it's hegemony;
- those ideologies give confirmation bias to groups of people that become increasingly lonely not only due to the bigotism but because the stage of capitalism and work conditions os such that eliminates the majority of free time and social activities people could have.
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Not to mention the voting system in the US is so fucked up that it's not like majority opinion actually wins.
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All normal, just another refugee crisis brewing
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Yeah, that's definitely going to be an issue.
I remember in 2019 when I was still early into transition and visiting friends on a roadtrip I was boymoding precisely because I was afraid of being killed. Once I started getting into Arizona I just knew that I was going to need to play things very, very cautiously. I can't bring myself to boymode anymore but with how dangerous things are getting thanks to conservative news media, conservatives on social media and the anti-trans legislature I'm probably not going to be traveling for a while.
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Oklahoma's now proposing to put a stop to trans health care for anyone of any age with SB250.
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@Envy said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Oklahoma's now proposing to put a stop to trans health care for anyone of any age with SB250.
This is horrifying. This would kill so many people.
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Run to the East or West coast. Or fucking Canada. Run while you can.
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@Satsuki said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Run to the East or West coast. Or fucking Canada. Run while you can.
That requires money a lot of trans people don't have, unfortunately.
If DeSantis wins 2024 it won't matter, either.
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Now that Merrick Garland is going to investigate Biden for a Republican nothingburger, will the squishy GARLAND WILL SAVE US LET HIM WORK liberals on here finally admit he's a corrupt crook.
And to make it more obivious as to what Garland's motives are, he appointed a former Rehnquist clerk to investigate Biden.
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@Kaiolino said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Now that Merrick Garland is going to investigate Biden for a Republican nothingburger, will the squishy GARLAND WILL SAVE US LET HIM WORK liberals on here finally admit he's a corrupt crook.
And to make it more obivious as to what Garland's motives are, he appointed a former Rehnquist clerk to investigate Biden.
For context, Biden attorneys discovered some classified documents from the Obama days in an office he'd previously used. They notified the National Archives, who hadn't even known they were missing.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/politics/joe-biden-classified-documents-upenn/index.html
This prompted check in other places to see if something similar happened elsewhere, and at least 2 of 3 places checked did have additional docs.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/12/politics/joe-biden-classified-documents-counsels-office/index.html
So not quite a nothingburger, but nothing on the level of Trump's theft is classified material and stonewalling attempts to retrieve it, either.
Very least it's easy to understand why the DoJ is involved. To borrow an analog found on Reddit:
The analogy I came up with:
Biden: Checks out a library book. Forgets to return it. Upon finding he still had it he returned it right away without being asked to do so.
Trump: Walks into a library right before his library card expires, grabs a shelf full of books, ignores the checkout lanes so he basically steals them as he packs them into his car, and when the library discovers what he's done repeatedly asks him to return the books. Trump lies and claims he doesn't have them, then refuses to return them, then the cops come calling and then grouses about how unfair it is and how he's been personally violated when they retrieve the books he stole.
To let WTF Just Happened Today explain it:
Attorney General Merrick Garland appointed a special counsel to investigate the classified government records discovered at Biden’s private home and office. Biden said he was “cooperating fully and completely” with the Justice Department investigation into how classified information and government records from his time as vice president were stored. Federal law enforcement officials have interviewed multiple aides who worked for Biden in the final days of the Obama administration. Garland announced the appointment of former U.S. attorney Robert Hur after it was reported that a second batch of documents with classified markings were discovered in a space used by Biden since the Obama administration. “The extraordinary circumstances here require the appointment of a special counsel for this matter,” Garland said. “This appointment underscores for the public the department’s commitment to independence and accountability, and particularly sensitive matters and to making decisions indisputably guided only by the facts and the law.” Republicans on the House Oversight Committee, meanwhile, said that the appointment of a special counsel would not stop them from investigating Biden’s “mishandling of classified documents.” Biden said he was surprised to learn that classified documents were found at a private office he previously used, adding that his lawyers voluntarily and immediately contacted the National Archives to return the documents. Trump, meanwhile, intentionally didn’t return his documents after being repeatedly asked by the National Archives to do so, forcing a standoff for months that led to a subpoena and FBI search of Mar-a-Lago
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@JulieYBM said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
@Satsuki said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Run to the East or West coast. Or fucking Canada. Run while you can.
That requires money a lot of trans people don't have, unfortunately.
If DeSantis wins 2024 it won't matter, either.
Yeah, and trans people in Oklahoma have it particularly rough, because cost of living is dirt cheap here, toward the very bottom.
Good states that will protect trans rights would be a major price hike for trans people in Oklahoma, unfortunately.
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@sgamer82 said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Very least it's easy to understand why the DoJ is involved. To borrow an analog found on Reddit:
The analogy I came up with:
Biden: Checks out a library book. Forgets to return it. Upon finding he still had it he returned it right away without being asked to do so.
Trump: Walks into a library right before his library card expires, grabs a shelf full of books, ignores the checkout lanes so he basically steals them as he packs them into his car, and when the library discovers what he's done repeatedly asks him to return the books. Trump lies and claims he doesn't have them, then refuses to return them, then the cops come calling and then grouses about how unfair it is and how he's been personally violated when they retrieve the books he stole.
Hah. Good analogy. Except poor librarians aren't allowed to call the cops on people who don't return their books.
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@Satsuki said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
@sgamer82 said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Very least it's easy to understand why the DoJ is involved. To borrow an analog found on Reddit:
The analogy I came up with:
Biden: Checks out a library book. Forgets to return it. Upon finding he still had it he returned it right away without being asked to do so.
Trump: Walks into a library right before his library card expires, grabs a shelf full of books, ignores the checkout lanes so he basically steals them as he packs them into his car, and when the library discovers what he's done repeatedly asks him to return the books. Trump lies and claims he doesn't have them, then refuses to return them, then the cops come calling and then grouses about how unfair it is and how he's been personally violated when they retrieve the books he stole.
Hah. Good analogy. Except poor librarians aren't allowed to call the cops on people who don't return their books.
It also assumes Trump would willingly enter a library, but analogies don't need to be perfect.
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@Envy said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
@JulieYBM said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
@Satsuki said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Run to the East or West coast. Or fucking Canada. Run while you can.
That requires money a lot of trans people don't have, unfortunately.
If DeSantis wins 2024 it won't matter, either.
Yeah, and trans people in Oklahoma have it particularly rough, because cost of living is dirt cheap here, toward the very bottom.
Good states that will protect trans rights would be a major price hike for trans people in Oklahoma, unfortunately.
One of my friend's has a minor trans nephew who still lives with their family in Oklahoma and it's scary as fuck to think it'll be easier for that family to reject and harm him like they did my friend. Shit's fucked.
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@JulieYBM said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
@Envy said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
@JulieYBM said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
@Satsuki said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Run to the East or West coast. Or fucking Canada. Run while you can.
That requires money a lot of trans people don't have, unfortunately.
If DeSantis wins 2024 it won't matter, either.
Yeah, and trans people in Oklahoma have it particularly rough, because cost of living is dirt cheap here, toward the very bottom.
Good states that will protect trans rights would be a major price hike for trans people in Oklahoma, unfortunately.
One of my friend's has a minor trans nephew who still lives with their family in Oklahoma and it's scary as fuck to think it'll be easier for that family to reject and harm him like they did my friend. Shit's fucked.
This is really sad. I also know of a friend of my mom's who has a relative (don't want to say niece or nephew - can't remember which way) that is transgender and I'm worried about them, too.
Oklahoma is a scary place. I've been thinking that I want a child, and I am 100% thinking I don't want to raise that child here. What if they turn out to be trans, or even gay?
But that's a scenario. There are real children being effected by this at this very moment. There are children who aren't going to make it through this. These monstrous politicians with their blood on their hands should be held accountable for it. This should never be allowed to happen ever.
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I don’t know what’s dumber The fact they play up police officers like they do even though these are the same assholes who lose their shit if they’re pulled over for speeding or will gun down a police officer simply serving a warrant.
Or that they continuously and erroneously think that sexually abusing children is something that only LGBTQ people do for all the straight people getting arrested and locked up for that exact same issue.
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Right Wingers play projection, they acuse other of all the things they do.
It's probably gaslighting into shift blame/victim blame.
