Who better to tear DeSantis a new one but Randy?
American Politics: A Brand New Day
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So Biden said, very truthfully, that white supremacy is the greatest threat US faces. And conservatives felt called out. (Gee I wonder why.)
But is also a case of pot calling the kettle black.
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Everyone point and laugh.
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https://www.rawstory.com/ron-desantis-2660611532/
DeSantis learned well from Jeb Bush
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Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes sentenced to 18 years in prison for plot to keep Trump in power
His attempt to argue for leniency, starting from here:
Stewart Rhodes speaks now
"I'm a politcal prisoner."
Rhodes blames the radical left of trying to shut down Trump and others
Stewart Rhodes is beginning his remarks with talk of Antifa
Rhodes: We protect people outside of Trump rallies.. against Antifa
Then accuses Antifa of targeting "unarmed victims"
Rhodes has launched into highly-charged, vitriolic politically-edged arguments. Accusing "the left" of targeting Trump and Trump supporters
Then he criticizes Proud Boys for "seeking fights"... saying OathKeepers are "quiet professionals"
Rhodes: "Antifa will throw bleach, urine and other substances you don't want in your eyes"
"Antifa will stab people"
He's arguing the OathKeepers wore "garb" on Jan 6 to defend themselves
Judge is sitting expression-less on the bench... as Rhodes unleashes these remarks about Antifa and the targeting of Trump supporters
He wrote these remarks down. He appears to be reading them off paper
Rhodes: "I want to make it very clear to the public... no OathKeeper took part in any of the fighting....." on Jan 6
Rhodes says he's got a "lot of police" in the OathKeepers...
Rhodes says, "I feel like I'm the lead character in Kafka's 'The Trial"
Rhodes alludes to efforts to "smear the MAGA movement"
Rhodes says the "media focused on the OathKeepers" .. "the OathKeepers and the Proud Boys.. the two groups the Left hates the most. Because we stop their violence in the street. And they don't like that"
Judge asks Rhodes to "wrap up"
Rhodes: "I always focused on what President Trump could do as the President to invoke the Insurrection Act"
Stewart Rhodes just now: "I believe this country is incredibly divided.. and this prosecution.. is making it worse"
Rhodes: "I cannot ignore the text of the Constitution. They have created a Constitutional crisis"
"Characterizing all Trump supporters as terrorists, racists and fools.. does not help"
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No part in any of the fighting. Uh-huh. Sure.
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@pariston_hill said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Sure, and that was terrible, but that was also 1975.
If a man can't change and learn to be better in FIFTY YEARS,,,
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@Robby said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
If a man can't change and learn to be better in FIFTY YEARS,,,
A man can, a politician on other hand...
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I see that Tara Reade is once again in the news following her defection to Russia.
Here she is at a press conference with Maria Butina who you may remember for pleading guilty to conspiracy against the United States and acting as an unregistered foreign agent.
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Didn't Biden barred whiteness on the sexual misconduct accusation against Thomas on during his appointment to the Supreme Court?
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Damn I'm seeing people argue about "vote blue or the evil side wins" and a counterargument made is that the greatest setback in LGBT+ legislation has been happening under a Dem president, while the had majority in the house and tie-break in the senate.
And people going out of their way to say the Dems are not at fault, or that the Supreme Court is to blame because Hillary lost.
Really US politics to the general voter is: I want guy with blue tie or I want guy with non-communist red tie in the White House.
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@pariston_hill said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Damn I'm seeing people argue about "vote blue or the evil side wins" and a counterargument made is that the greatest setback in LGBT+ legislation has been happening under a Dem president, while the had majority in the house and tie-break in the senate.
And people going out of their way to say the Dems are not at fault, or that the Supreme Court is to blame because Hillary lost.
Really US politics to the general voter is: I want guy with blue tie or I want guy with non-communist red tie in the White House.
You guys are gonna slip into full fascism so fast I hope [redacted].I mean... it's not like the Democrats are the ones putting this legislature out. Simple fact is that a Republican House/Senate/Presidency has so much potential to be worse, especially now that they've turned LGBTQ into their primary punching bags. There's a reason the worst of this stuff is occurring in Red States as opposed to Blue, in at least one instance I think overriding a Democratic governor's attempt to veto.
Even if you don't like the Democrats, in and of themselves, you can't deny that the Republicans are objectively worse in just about any and every measure.
Day 861: "There's going to be a reckoning."
1/ Biden and Kevin McCarthy reached an agreement in principle to lift the debt limit and prevent a default on the federal debt. The plan suspends the borrowing limit for two years, caps federal discretionary spending increases at 1%, while defense spending increases would be limited to about 3.5%, as proposed in Biden's budget. The legislation also includes new work requirements for select social safety net programs, claws back unspent Covid-19 relief funds, reduces IRS funding, reallocates funds from the Inflation Reduction Act, and streamlines the process of issuing federal permits for energy projects. As part of a debt ceiling agreement, the freeze on federal student loan repayments will end at the end of the summer, which is when the Education Department had been preparing to restart payments. To avert a default, the Fiscal Responsibility Act needs be approved by both the House and the Senate and then signed by Biden before the Treasury Department's June 5 deadline. A vote in the House is expected as soon as Wednesday night. (New York Times / NBC News / Politico / Bloomberg / Washington Post / Wall Street Journal)
Why should I care? The U.S. debt ceiling plays a critical role in maintaining global financial stability. Failing to raise or suspend the debt limit risks a default on U.S. debts, causing a loss of confidence in the U.S. dollar and higher borrowing costs, as well as disruptions to financial markets. The broader impact would be an economic downturn. Hitting the debt ceiling would also disrupt government operations and services, potentially leading to delayed payments to beneficiaries of programs like Social Security, Medicare, and veterans' benefits.2/ At least 20 conservative Republicans rejected the debt ceiling deal, with some members of the House Freedom Caucus threatening to force a vote to remove Kevin McCarthy as speaker if the bill is passed. Dan Bishop said McCarthy "capitulated" to Democrats and suggested that he plans to trigger the formal process to remove the speaker. "I'm fed up with the lies. I'm fed up with the lack of courage, the cowardice," Bishop said, adding: "Nobody could have done a worse job." Under new rules this year, a single Republican can bring a no-confidence vote to the floor to remove the speaker. Chip Roy, another member of the House Freedom Caucus, added: "Not one Republican should vote for this bill. We will continue to fight it today, tomorrow, and no matter what happens, there's going to be a reckoning about what just occurred unless we stop this bill by tomorrow." Several prominent conservative groups, meanwhile, publicly threatened to downgrade any Republican lawmaker who supports the bill. (NBC News / New York Times / Politico / Bloomberg / CNBC / Washington Post / Wall Street Journal)
3/ The Texas House voted to impeach Attorney General Ken Paxton over allegations of bribery and abuse of office. A Republican-led House General Investigating Committee filed 20 articles of impeachment against Paxton last week, citing a "long-standing pattern of abuse of office and public trust," including alleged bribery and obstruction of justice. The investigation began after Paxton requested that the Legislature pay the $3.3 million settlement from a whistleblower lawsuit against him. The Senate impeachment trial to determine whether Paxton should be permanently removed from office will start no later than Aug. 28. Ted Cruz called Paxton's impeachment a "travesty." (Texas Tribune / New York Times / Axios / Washington Post / NBC News / Dallas Morning News)
4/ Trump's aides directed his lawyer to not search Trump's Mar-a-Lago office for classified documents, despite a subpoena ordering Trump to return all documents still in his possession that were marked as classified. After Evan Corcoran completed his search of the Mar-a-Lago storage room and found 38 classified documents, he asked if he should search anywhere else. Several Trump aides, however, waved him off, assuring him that no documents would be found in Trump's office. Corcoran then handed over the documents to the Justice Department and drafted an affidavit saying all the classified documents were turned over to the "best of my knowledge." Corcoran had a fellow attorney, Christina Bobb, certify the letter, which attested to a "diligent search." The FBI later recovered more than 100 classified documents at Mar-a-Lago – including some from Trump's office. In total, more than 300 classified documents were retrieved from Mar-a-Lago. (The Guardian)
poll/ 63% of Republican voters say Trump is their strongest candidate to beat Biden in 2024, while 32% say another Republican candidate would be a stronger candidate. (Monmouth University Poll)
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_US_053023/
Regarding the debt limit increase, I'm going to steal an explanation an acquaintance on another forum provided for specifics
As it stands the deal includes:
- Raises the debt ceiling. The agreement would increase the debt limit for two years, so at least we don't have to worry about doing this all over again in an election year. Republicans are gonna throw a fit since they wanted to do this again next year.
- Caps non-defense spending. Spending will remain flat in '24 and only allowed to increase by 1% in '25. The Republicans wanted a spending cap of 10 years, they only got two. If Democrats win back the House in 2024, I suspect this will be discarded.
Protects veterans’ medical care. Even the Republicans weren't stupid enough to touch this. - Expands work requirements. Raises the age from 49 to 54 for childless able bodied adults to continue working 20 hours a week to maintain full SNAP support. Veterans, the homeless, and other qualified groups will get expanded exemptions. These increased work requirements will expire in 2030. No increased work requirements for Medicaid, despite Republican insistence on that.
- Return unspent Covid funds. This was one of the first things agreed upon, and I don't think anyone really cared about that much. How much is actually even left is unknown.
- Cut Internal Revenue Service funding. The Republican boogeyman. They wanted to defund the IRS entirely of the $80 billion it got from the Biden's IRA, but my understanding is the cut isn't even a tenth of that.
- Restart student loan repayments. The moratorium on student loan payments will end, though when exactly is unclear. Biden's student loan forgiveness plan will remain in place, though it's still paused by the courts.
Waldorf: You know Statler, after watching the last one thousand episodes of One Piece, I think I've come to a conclusion.
Statler: No you haven't.
Both: DOHOHOHOHOHO!
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If a Republican was in the White House, these anti-LBGT measures would be happening at the Federal level rather than in individual states. They're all in on this again because they have nothing else to run with.
Complicating things since 2009.
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@sgamer82 said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
I mean...
No I agree that Republicans are worse, I'm just saying that it don't appear to pass in the minds of the dem voter that you can press your politicians to be more combative, that the president don't have ways to pressure republican senators or congressman to vote with the democrats.
It's like the President cargo is merely decorative, and all the times the Democrats fail to enshrine legislation is because the odds were immensely backed at them or they couldn't fight the republican vote.
Isn't there a state congresswoman in Montana using her filibuster right to avoid voting on anti trans legislation and by that forcing the house not to vote on anything? Do more that.
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@Ubiq said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
If a Republican was in the White House, these anti-LBGT measures would be happening at the Federal level rather than in individual states.
Yes, and why did the Democrats failed to make Roe vs Wade federal law between Biden getting the job and the House election last year? Wasn't that a campaign pledge?
Didn't LBJ forced his way with Southern Democrats to pass the Civil Rights Bill? Why Biden don't even try to do it with Manchin and Simena?
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A federal bill to protect abortion would have required sixty votes in the Senate to pass.
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@pariston_hill said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
@Ubiq said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
If a Republican was in the White House, these anti-LBGT measures would be happening at the Federal level rather than in individual states.
Yes, and why did the Democrats failed to make Roe vs Wade federal law between Biden getting the job and the House election last year? Wasn't that a campaign pledge?
Because we didn't vote in enough senators. It was a 50/50 split, and even that was a technicality since 2 of them weren't voting with the Dems on anything. Dems had the majority on paper only, for all intents and purposes they were in the minority and it's pretty amazing they got through as much as they did..
And even if that wasn't the case, they'd need 60 votes to codify anything and they were nowhere near that for abortion.
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@Ubiq said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
If a Republican was in the White House, these anti-LBGT measures would be happening at the Federal level rather than in individual states. They're all in on this again because they have nothing else to run with.
That and thanks to Trump they have cronies in the Supreme & Federal Courts to heighten the chances that courts will sign off on this .
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I'm aware of the fine minuta of the approving of a bill by the US Senate, what I calling on is:
i) Why doesn't the Democratic Party don't pressure the two senators that constantly vote against the campaign pledges of it's president;
ii) Why the President and the party don't do more to manage to pass it's campaign promises;
iii) Why Dem voter base acts like the system and checks and balances is working "properly", and why one party gets a pass on using it's ineffectiveness to pass their agenda and the other not (I kinda know this one already and has to do with the framing the bourgeoisie media gives to the polices being passed);
iv) Why people keep pretending both parties are antagonistic when both of them are bourgeoisie parties whose main difference is their MO; why don't force the hand and make a concession in one side and and take the gain in other? Why keep the theatrics? I'm sure that agreeing for more austerity, more police force, more military spending (which both sides are okay with) they could do environmental or legal protection at federal level (not much to don't disenfranchise voter bases);
v) Why the hell the Dem voter base don't press it's representatives harder to achieve or at least fight a lost battle but FIGHT IN for their agenda?It's really like here: The Right can do whatever the fuck they want and it will be presented as a good for the economy or as a loss on the left. Like one side has to be the grown up and contain the damage of a spoiled brat instead of actually doing what they promised to do.
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@pariston_hill said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
I'm aware of the fine minuta of the approving of a bill by the US Senate, what I calling on is:
i) Why doesn't the Democratic Party don't pressure the two senators that constantly vote against the campaign pledges of it's president;With regards to this one in particular, what would doing so accomplish unless they need a simple majority (they're currently 51/49 in senate) or otherwise have enough Republican votes to pass whatever they're trying to pass?
On the flip side, at least for Joe Manchin, presumably one of the two, he's a blue senator in a red state, and democrats have nobody else who can win that particular race. Letting him vote against stuff when it won't affect the outcome hurts nothing and gives him something to tout back home.
That said, Manchin and Sinema (who I assume is the second) have been a pain in those simple majority scenarios. For better or worse Manchin is mostly sincere in his voting, while Sinema has proven herself an opportunist. Unfortunately there's only so much pressure to apply because Manchin holds a key seat and Sinema doesn't care unless she's bought and I'm not sure she even counts as a Democrat at this point.
Also, in spite of these handicaps, the Biden administration has done a lot, not least of which were the American Rescue Act and Inflation Reduction Acts, and just now with the debt ceiling we're getting progress with very minimal concessions. The Republicans are getting barely a fraction of what they were demanding.
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@pariston_hill said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
I'm sure that agreeing for more austerity, more police force, more military spending (which both sides are okay with)Republicans have been hazy on this
v) Why the hell the Dem voter base don't press it's representatives harder to achieve or at least fight a lost battle but FIGHT IN for their agenda?
They have tried this most notably with Sinema
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Day 862: "No margin for error."
1/ The bipartisan deal to suspend the debt ceiling and limit federal spending cleared a major procedural hurdle in the House. The House voted 241-187 to formally consider the debt ceiling bill. While setting the rules for debate is nearly always decided along party lines, Kevin McCarthy needed 52 votes from Democrats to offset 29 Republican "no" votes. A final vote on the debt ceiling is expected later Wednesday – days ahead of the June 5 default deadline. If approved, it would then move to the Senate, where conservatives could force days of debate. "I cannot stress enough that we have no margin – no margin – for error," Chuck Schumer warned. "Either we proceed quickly and send this bipartisan agreement to the president's desk or the federal government will default for the first time ever." (New York Times / Washington Post / Politico / Wall Street Journal / Bloomberg / CNBC / CNN)
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/us-debt-ceiling-deadline-talks-05-31-23/index.html
What are the consequences of default? A U.S. default would likely cause severe disruption to financial markets worldwide – including declines in the value of your retirement savings and other investments. A default could also result in a recession, which may lead to job losses, hiring freezes, and increased borrowing costs for the U.S. government. Higher interest payments on government debt potentially leads to increased budget deficits, which impact government spending.2/ Federal prosecutors obtained an audio recording of Trump acknowledging that he held onto a classified document after leaving the White House. On the July 2021 recording, Trump indicates that he wanted to share the classified document about a potential attack on Iran but the attendees didn't have sufficient security clearances. The meeting was with two people working on the autobiography of Mark Meadows. The recording suggests that Trump understood he retained classified material, contrary to his repeated claims that he could retain presidential records and "automatically" declassify documents. Special counsel Jack Smith's investigation has focused on the meeting as part of the criminal investigation into Trump's handling of classified documents after leaving the White House. (CNN)
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/31/politics/trump-tape-classified-document-iran-milley/index.html
Why should I care? Government documents are classified to protect national security. Document classification ensures that sensitive information, like intelligence sources, defense strategies, diplomatic relations, and details about ongoing operations are safeguarded from unauthorized access or disclosure.An employee at Mar-a-Lago was questioned by investigators about moving boxes of documents following a government request for surveillance footage. A Mar-a-Lago employee who was captured on video assisting a Trump aide in moving boxes on June 2, the day before classified material was collected in response to a subpoena, has been repeatedly questioned by investigators. In mid-July, authorities also scrutinized the employee's involvement in a separate subpoena seeking security camera footage, as he allegedly had a conversation with an IT worker regarding camera functionality and data retention. The employee claimed innocence, stating that the conversation was unrelated to hiding information from authorities and that they were unaware of the investigation or subpoena at the time. (Washington Post)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/05/30/trump-mar-a-lago-surveillance-camera/
3/ Nevada Gov. Joe Lombardo signed legislation that protects access to abortion for out-of-state patients. The legislation codifies an existing executive order from the former governor, which banned Nevada officials and agencies from assisting with out-of-state investigations that could lead to the prosecution of people who travel to Nevada seeking abortion care. The bill also ensures that in-state medical boards, commissions, and licensing committees cannot discipline or disqualify physicians who provide abortion care. (Associated Press / NBC News / The Hill)
4/ The Oklahoma Supreme Court ruled that two state laws banning abortion are unconstitutional because they require a "medical emergency" before a doctor can perform an abortion. The court said the laws violated the Oklahoma Constitution, which provides an inherent right for a woman to terminate a pregnancy to save her own life. The ruling, however, will not restore full abortion access in the state because Oklahoma's 1910 ban on abortion remains in effect, which made intentionally performing an abortion a felony unless "necessary to preserve her life." (The Oklahoman / Politico / KOSU / The Hill)
5/ The woman who accused Biden of sexual assault during the 2020 presidential race defected to Russia. Tara Reade appeared at an event hosted by the Russian state news outlet Sputnik and said she will apply for Russian citizenship. "I feel really happy to be here, and I feel safe," Reade said from Russia. Biden has strongly denied the allegation that he sexually assaulting Reade while she was working in his Senate office in 1993, saying the alleged assault "unequivocally, it never, never happened. It didn't. It never happened." Members of his Senate staff at the time said Reade never went to them with her claim of harassment. The event also featured convicted Russian agent Maria Butina, who promised to ask Putin "to fast track her citizenship request." The White House declined to directly comment, saying: "I won't attempt to speak for an aspiring Russian citizen, the convicted Russian spy who's sponsoring her, or the foreign government with which she has chosen to align." (CNN / NPR / CBS News / The Guardian / Insider)
https://www.npr.org/2023/05/31/1179158199/tara-reade-biden-sexual-assault-russian-citizenship
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@pariston_hill Fucking violence against us all.
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Again, as a Arizonian, I apologize for Sinema.
