Chapter 1,000: Straw Hat Luffy
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I don't feel like that 5 vs 2 is going to stick until the very end of the arc, they're gonna last like I don't know, 10 chapters tops it, everyone's gon leave Kaido and Luffy alone at some point.
That would just mean they're unconscious/unable to fight. They're not going to fight different opponents this late in the game.
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That would just mean they're unconscious/unable to fight. They're not going to fight different opponents this late in the game.
I agree on that, but who will fight the Calamities then ? Someone has to, or they will interfere on the roof. Marco is down there, alright, but 3 is a bit much even for him (I assume Jack will show up again). Who then ? Jimbe and Drake could be up to the task but have their hands full right now, Franky as well plus a Calamity is maybe starting to get out of his league. Chopper and Brook ? Nami and Usopp ? Sanji ? Not to mention the rooftop fight might require reinforcements. Things are looking good right now, yet the Straw Hat alliance still looks understaffed unless there's another twist incoming.
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I agree on that, but who will fight the Calamities then ? Someone has to, or they will interfere on the roof. Marco is down there, alright, but 3 is a bit much even for him (I assume Jack will show up again). Who then ? Jimbe and Drake could be up to the task but have their hands full right now, Franky as well plus a Calamity is maybe starting to get out of his league. Chopper and Brook ? Nami and Usopp ? Sanji ? Not to mention the rooftop fight might require reinforcements. Things are looking good right now, yet the Straw Hat alliance still looks understaffed unless there's another twist incoming.
I'm assuming that Sanji is going to be saved by Robin and continue his fight with King, or get a fight with Queen. Brook could do the same for Jinbe, but I'm not sure, especially with Marco present.
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That could be a thing, true. I've kinda given up on Sanji at this point, but in name at least he is still one of the monster trio; so if he ever gets out of his ridiculous situation, maybe he can earn back some street credit.
Still it took every ounce of Luffy's strength to down one Katakuri, so I don't quite picture Sanji soloing a King. Not even with the raid suit. Might take a group effort. -
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Why did King's beak change…
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I agree on that, but who will fight the Calamities then ? Someone has to, or they will interfere on the roof. Marco is down there, alright, but 3 is a bit much even for him (I assume Jack will show up again). Who then ? Jimbe and Drake could be up to the task but have their hands full right now, Franky as well plus a Calamity is maybe starting to get out of his league. Chopper and Brook ? Nami and Usopp ? Sanji ? Not to mention the rooftop fight might require reinforcements. Things are looking good right now, yet the Straw Hat alliance still looks understaffed unless there's another twist incoming.
By process of elimination, Sanji pretty much has to fight one. The only other alternative at this point is to gang up on Tobi Roppo with another Strawhat, which would feel quite lopsided given his raid suit performance against Page One. If there was a Tobi Roppo remaining he could fight by himself, that'd be one thing, but that option no longer exists.
Queen is the most likely given the Judge connection/awareness, but King fits very well also.
Sanji aside, it's also possible that Jinbe will swap opponents. Depends if you think it's a disservice to Jinbe's strength for him to not test his mettle against a Calamity. That said, we don't know much about Who's Who's strength admittedly. He did want to challenge the Calamities after all.
And then like you said, we have Marco and X Drake to face off against whoever is left.
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Nah, pretty sure the roof is just goin to collapse, separating everyone.
Doesn't matter what shenanigans occur, I am confident that those 5 characters on the roof are only fighting the Yonko. Oda purposely went out of his way to avoid having them fight the Calamities, that won't suddenly change. At best it will be another Law in Dressrosa situation, where they get beaten up, then recover and watch Luffy finish off Kaido.
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Ok chapter for me. It’s kind of getting old and annoying that we still don’t know what Luffy said about his ambition.
I definitely liked the punch and the lead up to it but having Yasuie panel was weird since Luffy didn’t come into contact with him at all.
The double spread with Kid and Killer taking center stage was also very weird. I can’t wait for Kid to get stomped hard. That man is annoying with his bullshit who can’t even finish his fight with Apoo properly. What a waste of panel space by focusing on him. -
I definitely liked the punch and the lead up to it but having Yasuie panel was weird since Luffy didn’t come into contact with him at all.
He witnessed his execution in the prison alongside Hyo, who was extremely pained by it. He has a surprisingly high stake in seeing him avenged.
Weird that Tama's beating at the hands of Kaido wasn't shown in that collage though, that had even more personal stakes for Luffy given that he's directly befriended her and all.
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Yes, that's exactly what's going to happen. you just somehow forgot the part where it was Law who took down Trebol.
I didn't forget Trebol? I'm not sure how that's supposed to be an effective counterargument when Trebol was with Doffy from the very start, just like how Big Mom is with Kaido now….
For your comparison to actually work, it would be more like if Law started out fighting Doffy and Trebol, only to somehow end up fighting Pica or something instead. The Supernovas on the roof are focused on the Yonko, nothing is getting in the way of that aside from them being knocked out or killed, this is their final matchup.
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I didn't forget Trebol? I'm not sure how that's supposed to be an effective counterargument when Trebol was with Doffy from the very start, just like how Big Mom is with Kaido now….
For your comparison to actually work, it would be more like if Law started out fighting Doffy and Trebol, only to somehow end up fighting Pica or something instead. The Supernovas on the roof are focused on the Yonko, nothing is getting in the way of that aside from them being knocked out or killed, this is their final matchup.
Anyone can get up on the roof and start assisting Kaido and Big Mom. There's nothing stopping subordinates from doing so.
For example, Flampe showing up from nowhere to help Katakuri out.
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Anyone can get up on the roof and start assisting Kaido and Big Mom. There's nothing stopping subordinates from doing so.
For example, Flampe showing up from nowhere to help Katakuri out.
I already noted this in an earlier post. Any temporary distractions or whatever can (and likely will) happen, I'm not arguing otherwise. I'm just saying it's incredibly unlikely to result in the Supernova having 1v1 fights or what have you with completely different opponents in some separate location. I'm basically just expressing that the time for something like Kid vs. King for example, has effectively passed IMHO. Especially when 4 of them have singled out Kaido for narrative purposes, on top of this latest chapter representing who Oden was talking about in his journal.
I'm not really understanding how it's controversial to believe that the Yonko will be their final matchups after this chapter.
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Who would have thought that Zoro won't have a big one-on-one fight in the Land of Samurai of all places?
It was clear he was going to seriously damage Kaido since at least the introduction of Enma, but King still seemed like such an obvious opponent for him. I'm not complaining though, quite the contrary, fighting alongside Luffy against the main villain of this huge saga is way more exciting. I just find it interesting that Oda decided to break the usual pattern of him fighting the number 2 of the enemy group. -
To be fair, Zoro did have his own share of mini-bosses like Killer, Gyukimaru and Fujin, plus he also briefly faced Denjiro, Hawkins and Apoo at other points. That's more that can be said for pretty much every other Straw Hat except Luffy.
At the very least, he's not lacking on fights.
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Linlin already said she's not that sold into an alliance, and the roof its going to collapse as its already been hinted to happen.
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To be fair, Zoro did have his own share of mini-bosses like Killer, Gyukimaru and Fujin, plus he also briefly faced Denjiro, Hawkins and Apoo at other points. That's more that can be said for pretty much every other Straw Hat except Luffy.
At the very least, he's not lacking on fights.
Yeah he's definitely not lacking fights, I'm just pointing out that so far in every major arc Zoro was part of, he defeated the number 2 or 3 of the enemy group and I doubt anyone predicted that Wano of all arcs would change that.
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Think Zoro slicing open Kaido would make up for a non 1 on 1 fight.
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Well, Zoro defeated Morgan… his first boss.
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I'm assuming that Sanji is going to be saved by Robin and continue his fight with King, or get a fight with Queen. Brook could do the same for Jinbe, but I'm not sure, especially with Marco present.
It took me a while because I considered Black Maria to be Nami's fanservice opponent (due to her being the chief prostitute and all).
However: She's a glorified prostitute! She sings. She can play an instrument. She's a multifarious entertainer first, sex worker second!
Brook's few fights revolved around [death] and [art] so far, Black Maria can cater to both themes. Well, and a bad panties joke if you really have to.
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Again, Jinbe is a man who went all the way thru Impel Down with barely anyone capable of holding him off.
Arrived Marineford to outclass Moria, protected Luffy against someone like Akainu, could randomly punch a giant like Wadatsumi.
Then in WCI, is shown capable of sharing fists with Big Mom, then comes back to Wano by randomly sinking a battle Ship.Now, we don't know much about Who'sWho yet, but the fact alone that WW can stop someone like Jinbe, it already speaks volumes of Who'sWho's strenght.
This guy is leagues and leagues above Brook, clearly.
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Again, Jinbe is a man who went all the way thru Impel Down with barely anyone capable of holding him off.
Arrived Marineford to outclass Moria, protected Luffy against someone like Akainu, could randomly punch a giant like Wadatsumi.
Then in WCI, is shown capable of sharing fists with Big Mom, then comes back to Wano by randomly sinking a battle Ship.Now, we don't know much about Who'sWho yet, but the fact alone that WW can stop someone like Jinbe, it already speaks volumes of Who'sWho's strenght.
This guy is leagues and leagues above Brook, clearly.
My current guess is that WW was one of the Level 6 prisioners, and that would put him on a decent place on the power scale and just the right kind of opponent for the new crew member to show his full colours.
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Yeah he's definitely not lacking fights, I'm just pointing out that so far in every major arc Zoro was part of, he defeated the number 2 or 3 of the enemy group and I doubt anyone predicted that Wano of all arcs would change that.
Some guessed it when Kaido's dragon form hot unveiled due Ryuma and Shusui legend. Not me, but I remember I read it.
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Awesome to have One Piece made it to 1000 Chapters
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Great chapter! Felt the emotion behind it. Even if it wasn't some crazy reveal. I hope the next chapter focuses solely on the rooftop fight.
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Phew.. one more week to go.
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Don't know if it's been said already but could Big Moms shocked face on the last page not be because of the punch Luffy delivered on Kaido but because the silhoutte of Luffy holding his hat reminds her of Roger? I mean the time Rox was still a thing was long before Shanks was with the crew so technically Roger should still have been the owner of the strawhat back when they were a rival crew to the Roger pirates. Anyways, just a thought.
I guess we don't technically know how much Big Mom and Kaido were involved with the fight but if they were or just saw the fight between Rocks and Roger + Garp, this kid Luffy is wearing Roger's straw hat and is the grandson of Garp. It is almost like Roger and Garp had a grandson? together and it should be scary to them.
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When Big Mom and Luffy talked for the first time in FI via den den mushi, Big Mom reacted to Luffy's surname and remembered Garp… so it's weird how she never cared again about this detail.
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Brook's few fights revolved around [death] and [art] so far, Black Maria can cater to both themes. Well, and a bad panties joke if you really have to.
To be honest, I'd love to see a panties joke just for the sake of Black Maria and her crew's reaction after already having been creeped out by Sanji. Just give me a "what's with this crew?" creeped out reaction and I'm happy.^^
I guess we don't technically know how much Big Mom and Kaido were involved with the fight but if they were or just saw the fight between Rocks and Roger + Garp, this kid Luffy is wearing Roger's straw hat and is the grandson of Garp. It is almost like Roger and Garp had a grandson? together and it should be scary to them.
Right, totally forgot about the obvious Garp reaction. Would actually be a proper moment to really remember this little piece of information.
When Big Mom and Luffy talked for the first time in FI via den den mushi, Big Mom reacted to Luffy's surname and remembered Garp… so it's weird how she never cared again about this detail.
If my memory doesn't fail my she remembered this a little bit during the Tottoland arc but even then I think it was more of just remember the conversation than actually putting any weight to Luffy's pedigree.
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To be honest, I'd love to see a panties joke just for the sake of Black Maria and her crew's reaction after already having been creeped out by Sanji. Just give me a "what's with this crew?" creeped out reaction and I'm happy.^^
As for Big Mom and Garp, yeah more of that would be great, especially in the (hopefully) incoming Rocks flashback.
But even if not, I think Big Mom connecting Luffy's last name to Garp and not Dragon was the main message. Dragon might be the most wanted man on the planet, but in the world of pirates Garp THE FIST is setting the Monkey D. standards.
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If my memory doesn't fail my she remembered this a little bit during the Tottoland arc but even then I think it was more of just remember the conversation than actually putting any weight to Luffy's pedigree.
The way Big Mom acts towards Luffy is perfect the way it is (seeing him like a cocky rookie), I wouldn't change it. Just think it's weird that his grandpa was never mentioned again, especially now that we know the context of Rocks.
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I wonder if Napoleon and Kaido's club are supreme graded weapons like Whitebeard's naginata. I could see Zoro's new sword turning black if he manages to shatter either of them.
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I wonder if Napoleon and Kaido's club are supreme graded weapons like Whitebeard's naginata. I could see Zoro's new sword turning black if he manages to shatter either of them.
Meito are specifically blades (the name is literally "famous blade"), so Kaido's club can't be graded.
Napoleon is too much of an unique weapon (since it's technically a haunted hat), so it's unlikely to be graded either.
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So it's probably tomorrow or tuesday, huh?
wonder what'll happen in 1001? continuing what's in 1000… or probably a pleasant surprise to close the curtain of act 3 or something like that? -
Putting aside the bullshit of Kaido looking like an idiot again and King and Queen being incompetent
How are they going to defeat Kaido and Mom ? These guys have barely shown anything and they still have more up their sleeves. There would be no surprise if hybrid Kaido beat them by himself. Actually that's what should happen naturally unless Oda has the worst gen become gods suddenly.
Who is going to fight King and Queen ? Doubt Marco will fight them by himself.
When will Yamato join the fight ? She must confront her father.
When will Mom betray Kaido ?
So many questions.
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It's curious that Big Mom opted for Zeus as her mount instead of Prometheus, who seems to be chilling for some reason. It could be that this is setup for another round of Oda-style science, mainly concerning Kidd and how his magnetic powers conveniently match up against a thundercloud homie.
But even if not, he gathered an extraordinary amount of garbage that is nowhere to be seen, and I assume it will be his version of Shadow's Asgard or Birdcage. Even if he isn't on the level of the Yonkou, that super move could be at least good enough to stall or even damage Big Mom or Kaido.
As for Zoro, I believe he's going to job after one good attack on Kaido. But this time not for good, he will just be-reshuffled into the other fights. You know, just when Lucci kicked him head first into a chimney during Water 7. Maybe less humiliating.
I could even se Kidd's garbage attack being the reason why the characters disperse again, but even the normal shockwaves from 2 Yonkou fighting could be enough to shake things up.
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The break really hasn't been hitting me at all for this one. Chapters like these feel like they're worth 20-30 normal chapters, as rare as chapters like these are. I would've been fine even with a 3 month break, and I was around for the timeskip chapter and its month break, yet for this one I'm much more excited. This just got the series to such an important moment that it's been needing for a long time – several, really -- so breaks after chapters like this I feel are quite earned.
The way Big Mom acts towards Luffy is perfect the way it is (seeing him like a cocky rookie), I wouldn't change it. Just think it's weird that his grandpa was never mentioned again, especially now that we know the context of Rocks.
Speaking of this, it's going to be QUITE the moment when Luffy gets his "you've earned our respect" moment from Kaido/Big Mom. If he doesn't get their respect, then the "you were a worthy opponent after all" moment. Getting that sort of acknowledgement from the heights of pirate power and influence in One Piece… Just damn. Shouldn't be too long either, we may even see that this year, and that's another moment that will symbolically be one of the biggest moments in this series. Even if it's just Kaido should a betrayal happen.
Croc or Enel would never.Wanna see the "ancient civilization destroyed" thing done really well? FFXIV did a great take on it. The bar's high for One Piece to beat.
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I was really hoping Zoro and King would fight along with Sanji and Queen, not sure either will happen now
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It's curious that Big Mom opted for Zeus as her mount instead of Prometheus, who seems to be chilling for some reason. It could be that this is setup for another round of Oda-style science, mainly concerning Kidd and how his magnetic powers conveniently match up against a thundercloud homie.
Or maybe she prefers sitting down on a fluffy cloud instead of a fireball.
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God, I'm jonesing for spoilers like a fiend.
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@Johnny:
God, I'm jonesing for spoilers like a fiend.
I'm trying to avoid them at all costs now. I've just decided we're in too important of a stage of the story from here on out.
It's reaaaaally difficult, I discuss OP on many forums and have to really watch out.
I'll probably do 1 chapter for the posterity of reading spoilers for a 1000s chapter, but other than that I'm trying to go cold turkey.Croc or Enel would never.Wanna see the "ancient civilization destroyed" thing done really well? FFXIV did a great take on it. The bar's high for One Piece to beat.
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really looking forward to reading spoilers! hopefully we get something today
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Chapter 1001 in my opinion will show Kidd shinging combat-wise. Oda has been hyping Kidd as Luffyst biggest rival out of Supernovas for quite some time. In Udon we had Kidd that was armless doing as good if not better than Luffy at lifting rock blocks. I think that Kidd was stronger than pre-udon training Luffy. I wonder what he can do with his armor-like mode that reminds me a bit of Luffys Gear 4th.
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Chapter 1001 in my opinion will show Kidd shinging combat-wise. Oda has been hyping Kidd as Luffyst biggest rival out of Supernovas for quite some time. In Udon we had Kidd that was armless doing as good if not better than Luffy at lifting rock blocks. I think that Kidd was stronger than pre-udon training Luffy. I wonder what he can do with his armor-like mode that reminds me a bit of Luffys Gear 4th.
Kidd needs to shine imo. His DF has so much potential and yes he is supposed to rival luffy strength wise as we seem to be lead to believe. Hopefully with all the materials he brought with him we get more than big scrap metal fist punch.
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The spoilers are not out yet? All these early spoilers for many weeks have spoiled me so much lol..
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Chapter 1001 in my opinion will show Kidd shinging combat-wise. Oda has been hyping Kidd as Luffyst biggest rival out of Supernovas for quite some time. In Udon we had Kidd that was armless doing as good if not better than Luffy at lifting rock blocks. I think that Kidd was stronger than pre-udon training Luffy. I wonder what he can do with his armor-like mode that reminds me a bit of Luffys Gear 4th.
Oh my god so true, I can’t wait to see him fight, I’ve been waiting since Sabody to see what he can do in a real fight
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Kidd needs to shine imo. His DF has so much potential and yes he is supposed to rival luffy strength wise as we seem to be lead to believe. Hopefully with all the materials he brought with him we get more than big scrap metal fist punch.
Mecha-like armor that is bigger than Kaido would be cool. If part of it gets smashed of then Kidd could reform part that was blown away. Punk Rotten of his but but in size of one of the Numbers, thats what I would love to see. We seen Kidd in one of SBS as little kid with small robot toy that he seemed to build himself, if it will turn out to be true then it would be cool foreshadowing from Oda via SBS. Kidd would instantly gain a lot of fans with move like that.
Also since weapon factories were shown in Wano I said back then that Kidd will use metal from which they are made of to form gigantic robot and fight Kaido. How cool would it be for us to see Kaido in dragon form vs Kidd in gigantic mecha? For me it would be INSANELY COOOL! And poetic to see Kaidos weapon factories to be used against him and being part of his downfall. Perfect place for Onigashima to drop down would be that poisoned wasteland where Luffy met Zoro for the first time in Wano.
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