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Chapter 999: The Sake I Brewed to Drink with You
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Overall, an enjoyable experience.
Yamato continues to be in the spotlight!
However, I'm really on the fence with Whitebeard stuff. I'd like to see some kind of sad expression… Especially from IZO...
Looks like Ace wanted to go back! Neat
Chapter 1000 is around the corner!
PS: Koido :ninja:
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Kaido is a Fish? Is this supossed to be a reference to that legend that Magikarp and Gyarados are based of?
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Kaido is a Fish? Is this supossed to be a reference to that legend that Magikarp and Gyarados are based of?
From spoiler thread, people are supposing he's based on the legend of a carp that turned into a dragon upon climbing an epic waterfall in defiance of demons.
There was a nice theory that what made Kaido so strong is that he fell into the ocean, but was able to escape on his own by sheer willpower. Maybe something like that is what allows the carp fruit to assume it's dragon form?
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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Can we all just take a moment and show some appreciation for the character that made these events possible. If not for this character, Luffy would not have met Momonosuke when he did.
Arigato, Monet :D.
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Ace reeeeeeally looking like Roger in that one panel. Same exact eyes.
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Welp, I guess I'm on the Yamato as Nakama train.
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! You guys think Zoro got a bird-butt fetish?Well, his childhood friend and her impostor are named after birds… :ninja:
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So my theory that the flashback would be a big one and would actually only start by chapter 1001 was absolutely of the mark.
I did like the small flashback but I kinda hope it's still a preview and that we'll see a bit more during the next flashback, probably more centered on Kaido and Yamato.And the reasoning that Whitebeard never attacked Wano to avoid an all out war hurting civilians makes sense, but it still leaves the question of why not attack Kaidou when he travelled outside Wano?
I'm sure that in a 20 year period span there were at least a couple windows of opportunity.oh, and kaidou is a fucking magikarp!!1!! that's incredible, not in a million years that would've crossed my mind
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I'll throw out my predictions for 1,000 here:
- Luffy and Kid meet. Hawkins on the way.
- Killer vs Hawkins.
- Perospero defeats Carrot/Wanda
- Big Mom pirates arrive (out of a book that Pero's carrying)
- Jack stops Kid.
- King stops Zoro and Marco.
- Luffy arrives at the roof alone.
- Spread shot of Kaido and Big Mom looking down on Luffy, with the scabbards all defeated.
- Curtains close. End of Act 3
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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So if the photo of the Rocks Pirates is before Big Mom gave Kaido the fruit, then it means he was born with those horns and is naturally as big as Big Mom.
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Can we now refer to Kaido as "Koido" from now on?
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- Spread shot of Kaido and Big Mom looking down on Luffy, with the scabbards all defeated.
Kidd is not going to waste that huge megatron arm in someone we don't know how wasted it is already.
If anything, a spread of Luffy King Kong Gun'ing Kaido, while Kidd Punk Rottens Big Mom at the same time, is way more possible.
Also, now that Queen ended being a non-problem for Marco, 100% chance Marco manages to throw Zoro into the ceiling.
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From spoiler thread, people are supposing he's based on the legend of a carp that turned into a dragon upon climbing an epic waterfall in defiance of demons.
There was a nice theory that what made Kaido so strong is that he fell into the ocean, but was able to escape on his own by sheer willpower. Maybe something like that is what allows the carp fruit to assume it's dragon form?
Yes and no from what I got. The legend it's true, there is a carp that becomes a dragon by climbing the waterfall. However on a broader sense, from what I understand, this just serves to classify dragons. There is no transformation here, just the animal "dragon" belongs to the genera "fish" according to japanese folklore. Much like the Giraffe of Kaku belongs to the Cow genera.
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Kidd is not going to waste that huge megatron arm in someone we don't know how wasted it is already.
If anything, a spread of Luffy King Kong Gun'ing Kaido, while Kidd Punk Rottens Big Mom at the same time, is way more possible.
Also, now that Queen ended being a non-problem for Marco, 100% chance Marco manages to throw Zoro into the ceiling.
I'm just predicting the immediate state of things, it's not the same as expecting Kid to have a full fight with Jack. Maybe in a later chapter the floor breaks and Jack falls, allowing Kid to go on, or something else splits them up.
I just think Oda will up the tension tenfold by making Luffy reach up there alone at first and having to survive until more people arrive. And, since both Hawkins and Jack are in that tower and unaccounted for, I think they'll stall the people who are in there with Luffy. Also, Queen may have not been able to stop Marco, but King is still there and better equiped to stop him.
It's the "darkest moment" I've been expecting to close act 3. Again, I expect everything to shift out once Act 4 begins, but, for chapter 1,000, everything may look very bleak.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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Great chapter.
Happiest about Robin and Brook supposedly running to where Sanji (and Jimbei are), setting up the final pairings.
Got goosebumps when Ace was talking about Luffy.
And again when Yamato connected the Ace and Luffy dots for Momo.Nice to see Big Mom recharging her toons.
I do hope she gets to fight for real, but the way she said it, I fear she might just sit the fight out and let Kaido deal with Luffy, Zoro, Kid and whoever else gets up there alone.
Big Mom "made" Kaido into that monster? Interesting.
Glad they´re not completely clueless and know about Robin.
…and by the way where´s your red stone? Hehehe...The plan is definitely gonna be Usopp shooting Tama´s dangos, turning the tide of the war and becoming an even more legendary pirate.
EDIT: Kid is gonna blow open the big door on one side, Luffy on the other and Zoro is gonna fly through the hole.
My original prediction a couple chapters back was Luffy shielding Kin & Co. from Kaido´s finishing blow but they seem to be KOed already.
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21 and a half years between both pictures :blink:
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I'm just predicting the immediate state of things, it's not the same as expecting Kid to have a full fight with Jack. Maybe in a later chapter the floor breaks and Jack falls, allowing Kid to go on, or something else splits them up.
I just think Oda will up the tension tenfold by making Luffy reach up there alone at first and having to survive until more people arrive. And, since both Hawkins and Jack are in that tower and unaccounted for, I think they'll stall the people who are in there with Luffy. Also, Queen may have not been able to stop Marco, but King is still there and better equiped to stop him.
It's the "darkest moment" I've been expecting to close act 3. Again, I expect everything to shift out once Act 4 begins, but, for chapter 1,000, everything may look very bleak.
Thing is, this setup seems to be pointing towards great revelations and hero moments.
So maybe, that moment will be 1001-1002, no need to rush it here.
Also, Hawkins being the final boss of the building is a major dissapointment as well, he's just a regular Headliner, no way he's above Who'sWho, Jack in the other hand, yeah totally possible, but not Hawkins.
Hawkins absense when everyone else is active is suspicious, and even more suspicious considering he's was checking fates last time we saw him.also, also, I don't think we're having any update con Peros vs MinkGirls, if that's an official vs, it's getting offpaneled until act 4 formally begins, and
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Thing is, this setup seems to be pointing towards great revelations and hero moments.
So maybe, that moment will be 1001-1002, no need to rush it here.
Also, Hawkins being the final boss of the building is a major dissapointment as well, he's just a regular Headliner, no way he's above Who'sWho, Jack in the other hand, yeah totally possible, but not Hawkins.
Hawkins absense when everyone else is active is suspicious, and even more suspicious considering he's was checking fates last time we saw him.also, also, I don't think we're having any update con Peros vs MinkGirls, if that's an official vs, it's getting offpaneled until act 4 formally begins, and
Sanji is freed to go save them both, but maybe a couple of panels of how it's been going its likely yeah.I'm predicting events in the chapter, doesn't mean more stuff can't happen or be revealed.
As for Carrot/Wand vs Peros, I don't think it's a real match. Rather, we've been led to believe that the Big Mom Pirates are out of the equation, but they'll sure appear and readers are going "oh shit, it's all going to Hell now".
I also think Hawkins appearing is a nice way to make us even more worried by him revealing the heroes' chances are abysmally low or non-existant.
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Great chapter. At this point Yamato has more than made up for his relatively "rushed" appearance/lack of foreshadowing, and it's only going to get better from here on out.
Robin and Brook basically going up to fight the Tobi Roppo is just what I wanted,, so glad that's happening. And the explanation for Whitebeard and Ace not coming back to Wano is perfect. It's pretty much what many people had surmised, but actually hearing it from them of course holds more weight. Best part is that it actually fits both of their personalities.
Lastly, the reveal that Kaido actually has a Fish DF is a good example of how Oda can still surprise everyone while still having things make sense in hindsight. Also find it interesting that he did not have his DF for the God Valley battle, wonder how strong he was at that point without it. Now bring on Ch. 1000! Gonna be hard as hell to avoid spoilers, but I'll try my best lol
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The scan will be insane. I'm sure that Oda has prepared us a beautiful handwriting !
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Author Comments 12/20/2020: https://www.viz.com/blog/posts/mangaka-musings-12-20-2020
**Eiichiro Oda
I’m sure a lot fewer people will be traveling for the new year. Please stay home and read Jump. Next issue is chapter 1,000!**
Like the Avatar? / Like the Miis?Dragalia Lost ID: 97617932505
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Quite enjoyed the chapter.
It's weird how much focus Ace got but I quite enjoy his bonding with Yamamoto and also his hyping up of his little brother. I dont really like the whole Ace warrior of justice aspect tho. I liked him just being a vagabon enjoying the sea unlike Luffy that's always busy saving countries.
I continue to think the bond between Whitebeard and Oden shouldnt have existed. If it was just a Ace thing and about his promise I'd probably like this part more. Just a them wanting to help him out in his silly plans when he's good enough.
I really like the dynamic of Kaido and Big mom. I wonder where the megastone is. Hopefully Marco makes it to the top. They have have been stalling a long time.
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Wonder BM and Koido have some clue about what the one piece is? I mean they have been around a lot of big names, and they might have picked something up.
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I doub't it, Shanks is probably the only Yonko who knows more about it.
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I doub't it, Shanks is probably the only Yonko who knows more about it.
I think they may know something because of Rocks. The dude was into learning forbidden stuff and breaking taboos, and challenged the Celestial Dragons themselves. The WG surely has some knowledge of the History they are trying to keep forgotten, so I wouldn't be surprised if Xebec learned something, and then Big Mom and Kaido got some of that knowledge as well. They know about the Ancient Weapons and the function of the Poneglyphs, at the very least.
They are probably after the Ancient Weapons, thought, not History. History is a means to their ends.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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I think they may know something because of Rocks. The dude was into learning forbidden stuff and breaking taboos, and challenged the Celestial Dragons themselves. The WG surely has some knowledge of the History they are trying to keep forgotten, so I wouldn't be surprised if Xebec learned something, and then Big Mom and Kaido got some of that knowledge as well. They know about the Ancient Weapons and the function of the Poneglyphs, at the very least.
They are probably after the Ancient Weapons, thought, not History. History is a means to their ends.
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Well i mean someone had to have known about OP before Roger right?
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Oh yeah, they definitely know some stuff, but I don't think about the One Piece itself.
Whitebeard got information about it from Roger, that makes it unlikely that Xebec had details about it.My take is that Whitebeard learned the details from Roger, but Rocks had some sparse knowledge about some things.
Maybe the whole event in God Valley was to uncover more. Maybe it was there that they learned about the importance of the poneglyphs.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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Well i mean someone had to have known about OP before Roger right?
Depends on what is. If its something on Laugh tale in this era only Roger and his people would know what was there. And Roger was as stuck as Big Mom and Kaido before he got someone to read the stones. So its very possible they dont know anything of worth.
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Well i mean someone had to have known about OP before Roger right?
Didn't the people start to call Rogers supposed treasure the "One Piece"?
So technically people could only know about the poneglyphs, ancient history stuff and such, but Roger started the whole One Piece thing.
His goal was the circumnavigation of the globe, and the One Piece was what he found on Laugh Tale.
At least that's how I took it.But he wasn't in Laugh Tale.
After Roger came back Shanks asked him something, and started crying after that. But that could have been about everything.
My take is that Whitebeard learned the details, but Rocks had some sparse knowledge about some things.
Maybe the whole event in God Valley was to uncover more. Maybe it was there that they learned about the importance of the poneglyphs.
I'm sure he knew more about the poneglyphs and the history than most people, but the One Piece wasn't part of it, see my reply to wolfwood.
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Where's the Dragon Gate? If there was some requirement with his initial devil fruit I imagine he had to climb up a dragon gate from one of Wano's waterfalls. If so, what does that say about Devil Fruits' origins?
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So if no one knew anything about OP or what it could've been before Roger then who put the idea of it existing in to Rogers mind? Someone or some log or something must've planted the idea to begin with no?
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Where's the Dragon Gate?
Mary Geoise :ninja:
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So if no one knew anything about OP or what it could've been before Roger then who put the idea of it existing in to Rogers mind? Someone or some log or something must've planted the idea to begin with no?
No why? He wanted to conquer the world or something like that, can't remember his first meeting with Rayleigh that good. His goal was to reach the last island of the world, everything else was just coincidence.
After he learned the truth and realized they were too early, he made sure that Joyboy's promise or whatever can be fulfilled, that's why he told the world about the One Piece that he found on Laugh Tale.
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I can't see whatever that picture is. I'm assuming it's the big gate at Mariejoas?
edit: Here's a reddit post with similar thoughts from 2 and a half years ago: reddit linkCheck out my podcast for conversations about Greatness in anime, sports, music, and whatever else we can think of.
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I can't see whatever that picture is. I'm assuming it's the big gate at Mariejoas?
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edit: Here's a reddit post with similar thoughts from 2 and a half years ago: reddit link
I only replied as joke, but damn, some people come up with crazy theories.
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No why? He wanted to conquer the world or something like that, can't remember his first meeting with Rayleigh that good. His goal was to reach the last island of the world, everything else was just coincidence.
After he learned the truth and realized they were too early, he made sure that Joyboy's promise or whatever can be fulfilled, that's why he told the world about the One Piece that he found on Laugh Tale.
That's my point of view.Well i assumed that joyboy or whoever left the OP had wanted people to find it, and would've left signs that there was some point in traveling to Raftel, maybe even that someone else had gone there in the 700 years betwenn now and then. But i guess you have a point, it could've just been a complete fluke that anyone ever found OP again.
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I guess the first reason why someone would try to reach Laugh Tale is to learn the truth about the history, or the ancient weapons or whatever is mentioned on the Poneglyphs, that's why they were created.
But that didn't work out that well in the past 800 years, so Roger motivated the people to search for Laugh Tale, and increased the chances.Depending on what the One Piece is, it would be weird if it's mentioned on one of the Poneglyphs.
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People also always tried to be the first to conquer. South Pole, Mount Everest, Grand Line… Whatever.
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So basically Yamato and Ace smacked each other good and then had a date under the moonlight…
Their offspring would´ve been something else, rivaling Luffy and Boa´s kid. Damn, what a shame.
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Luffy would easily surpass Ace. It's not even close.
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People, Mr. Morj did a pretty cool analysis explaining why the Uo Uo no Mi fits Kaido so much on a narrative level.
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I'm leaning towards the Yamato joins the crew prediction after the Ace flashback.
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! You guys think Zoro got a bird-butt fetish?Hahaha i laughed so hard
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No wonder Koidou is a fish, he looks just like aquaman.
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Here we are. Final chapter of triple digits. Next chapter, I find out of the filenaming scheme for my offline archive holds up to the new digit, or if I'll have to go back and add an extra 0 in front of every previous chapter number.
The Jump cover is a nice tribute. I'm not reading a whole lot of other ongoing series at the minute, only Hero Aca and Dr Stone, so I don't recognise most of the artists, but the variety of character choices is great. Only real letdown is Boichi choosing Ace, because come on man, we already know you can draw Ace. Give us something new!
First half of the combined colour spread looks great. It's so detailed! Where's the other half? It's painful to have this come up with the Christmas break. Just painful.
Yamato's flashback gives us some Onigashima layout weirdness. The jet of flame in the establishing shot would have you think they're fighting at the entrance, but then on the next page they're in the middle of the Performance Floor (which in this time period has no less than three bridges over the middle corridor that just aren't there in the present), and then a page after that, Mihal is talking to Ace from the docks. The dragon gate that Yamato smashes also seems to be outside. At least with Mihal's bit the double panel boarder indicates a jump forward in time after Ace notices Yamato's handcuffs. Now that I've reread it a couple of times, it's clear that the sequence of events is Ace and Yamato fought outside first, then reached a standstill in the Performance Floor, Yamato told him Kaido was gone and stood down, actually standing by to let Ace save the children (I don't even want to know what Kaido wanted to use those kids for), and then Ace goes back and restarts his fight with Yamato after the ship was loaded up. It was hard to follow initially because despite the movements in time and location, the dialogue is written like it could be one unbroken conversation and the one actual signpost of a transition is subtle and easy to miss. This all could have been drawn a lot clearer, but it would have been hard to do so without adding more pages to it, which probably wouldn't have been worth it over all.
The gate that initially held the dragon statue, like the bridges over the Performance Floor, also doesn't seem to be there anymore. It should have been visible in the establishing shot in chapter 978, but it isn't, so I guess Kaido tore the whole thing down when he gave up on the statue.
Ace forgetting Cavendish's name when in what was meant to be Cavenwhatever's prime, before the Worst Generation stole his spotlight, is a great little gag, and getting timelines for some of the other Supernovas hitting the seas is a nice little lore thing. Ace's faith in Luffy is heartwarming as well. He was a good brother. I always forget how charming he was until he actually comes back onscreen.
It would have been nice to have these scenes mentioned or at least as hinted at in the Ace novels. Without them, the books already feel dated. And speaking of, I've seen people in different comment sections talking about this flashback and the one with Tama at the start of Wano "canonising" Ace's crew from the novel, as if they were created purely for the book. That's just not the case. Go back to chapter 552 and compare the people with Ace when he fought Jinbe to the sketches at the back of the novel. The manga art is pretty low-res, but there's the right number of people and nearly half the crew is distinct enough to be recognised as themselves even from this distance.
Ace's crew has always been canon. They just got a bit more room to breathe in the novel.Going back to the present, and we can see that the storeroom Momo and Yamato are hiding in is actually inside the skull dome, just below the lower half of the Performance Floor, on a path branching off from the stairs that led up from the skull's mouth.
Robin and Brook are going up through the castle, where one of them will presumably… sigh… save Sanji from his current predicament. I'm praying for a twist on the formula, but I'm not holding my breath.
We get another little Ace flashback in the middle of the chapter purely to explain why Whitebeard didn't act against Kaido sooner. This is all stuff that could have been intuited from what we knew already - the slow movement of info to and from Wano meant the didn't hear what had happened until after, and given the scale of both Whitebeard and Kaido's crews, the collateral damage and loss of life isn't worth a symbolic act of vengeance. (the fact that Kaido is about to colony drop a freaking island on a populated area just because he felt it would make a better capital for his empire and Whitebeard coming close to completely sinking Marineford back in the day make it clear the kind of mutually assured destruction two Emperors bringing their A-games would be in for). "But Whitebeard left the people of Wano to suffer as slaves!" Yeah, and he's also left along the common-knowledge slave culture of Mariegeoise and the slave markets of Sabaody. He leaves Tottoland alone even though Big Mom's lifespan tax is (despite being voluntary) ethically questionable at best. We've never heard about him going out of his way to topple the Doflamingos or Wapols of the world's monarchies. One man can't fix all the injustices of the world on his own, even one as powerful and idealised as Whitebeard.
I'm surprised this is as controversial of a reveal as it is's proving to be. From not chasing Teach to his strategic back and forth with Sengoku at Marineford, Whitebeard has always been portrayed as pragmatic. He's is a father to his men and fiercely protective of those he takes under his wing (a position Oden voluntarily left) but he's also extremely aware of his place in the world and the potential consequences of his actions.
I agree that it would have been nice to see Whitebeard weighing these two sides of his personality a little more before coming to the decision he made, mulling over the contrast between his respect for Oden and the feeling of betrayal that Oden left him and his found family to chase knowledge and glory with Roger, but there would have been no way for Ace to be part of that conversation. Remember that Oden had been dead for more than a decade by the time Ace joined Whitebeard. Even though it took "several years" to find out he died, Whitebeard, Marco and Izo would still have had at least another several years to grieve and make their peace with it by the time of this flashback.
I dunno, I'm sympathetic to people who had a specific interpretation of the character they now feel has been betrayed, but I'm struggling to see it the same way. This makes sense with what we knew. It adds layers rather than creates contradictions. It strengthens the worldbuilding if even the strongest man in the world is forced to weight the cost and benefits of even his most unambiguously well-intentioned actions.
Getting back to the chapter, the spread of King and Queen transforming doesn't give us much new for them art-wise, but I did really enjoy Queen's ridiculous mouth-gun.
Yamato pulls out the journal, I deliberately haven't been getting my hopes up for any long-term mysteries being resolved for chapter 1000. Just the start of the final battle would have been good enough. But between this and Law reflecting on it in the basement, do I dare hope for to learn what the D stands for in the next chapter?
Zeus and Prometheus are recharging themselves on the roof. Zeus drawing power from the storm clouds makes sense, but what is Prometheus eating there? I doubt Kaido would make extra flame clouds just for him, and whatever it is is drawn like an explosion that wasn't there in any previous chapters.
Oh, and where are the bodies of the Scabbards? Weird that they haven't been in any of these shots even though we last saw them spread out in front of Kaido.
Looks like the final battle really is going to be Big Mom and Kaido together. I can't wait to see what it takes to get the alliance through it. While I thought the wording was a little clunky, having them declare their intent to get the One Piece together really drives home how high the stakes are right now. Between this and yesterday's comment about Shanks making a move in the new year, it's really starting to feel like the end is coming.
Kadio's fruit being a Fish-Fish fruit is absolutely brilliant. Very Oda. I know I'm not the first to make a Gyarados comparison, but holy carp, he's a Gyarados!
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These people have GOTTA get over Ace.
Wano done, at Elbaf for a fully norse themed arc, fresh cast of characters with no known relation to anything previously shown
Some giant like 30 seconds after Luffy lands: "Ah you remind me of that pirate, Ace"
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This chapter was such a substantial one, it is taking extra time to process all the content.
Anyway, Marco missed an opportunity to call Brook, Soul King. Ah, what a waste.
