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    1015: ''Straw Hat Luffy - The Man Who Will Become the Pirate King''

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      The people who design the video games are salivating right now at what's to come.

      Title: ''Straw Hat Luffy - The Man Who Will Become the Pirate King''
      Chapters Covered: 1000
      Episode Director: Megumi Ishitani
      Animation Directors: Hirotaka Ito, Keisuke Mori, Takashi Kojima, and Takumi Yamamoto (OP AD debut)
      Time: 8:30PM EST
      Watch It: www.crunchyroll.com/one-piece

      Ishitani I'm sure needs no introduction at this point, but let's talk about Mori for a sec. He is one of the absolute best animators at Toei right now, part of the "Monster Trio" that rose to prominence there during the mid-2010s alongside Kodai Watanabe and the more under-the-radar Takumi Yamamoto. He's more well-known to the sakuga community as "Masami Mori", the penname he uses when doing freelance work, which compared to his peers he does a large amount of. He's been popping up on various One Piece stuff over the last few years, handling sequences both full of high-octane action and things more subdued, focused on storytelling. I think this is only the second time? he's handled animation direction duties, at least for a proper, full-length episode, and lots of animators have been hyping 1015 up on twitter so we should definitely be in for a treat!

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        Some episode 1015 clips!!!




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          We finally made it to Roof Piece.

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            Hm… not a positive reaction from me. They tried way to hard to make it look cool and badass. And there is one thing that annoyed me since Wano started in the Anime. The series got way too flashy. Unnecessary imo
            So in my book, after my first view, it was not satisfying. Please turn down the effects... but probably it will get "worse"

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              That episode was amazing. Everything about it was perfect. I like that the anime shown what Yamato was doing during Marineford. Also I like that the anime shown where Kidd, Killer, and Law were at before they got to the roof. I got goosebumps when the Stampede version of We Are started to play when Luffy starts his attack on Kaido.

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                Hm… not a positive reaction from me. They tried way to hard to make it look cool and badass. And there is one thing that annoyed me since Wano started in the Anime. The series got way too flashy. Unnecessary imo
                So in my book, after my first view, it was not satisfying. Please turn down the effects... but probably it will get "worse"

                Lmfao. Go back to Dressrosa and try defending that.

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                  The problem with episodes like this that are animated so beautifully is that Toei can't handle the quality and cost, so they'll revert to the usual animation within the next few episodes. It would be amazing if all of "Roof Piece" could be animated this well and consistently… but it won't be. Also if I had a dime for every Oden flashback, callback or reference that we've had during the Onigashima invasion arc, I'd have at least $50 by now. :getlost:

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                    That was unreal, my goodness. Went beyond expectations.

                    "Yes, I'm only bones, but that's because I have an interest… in dieting."

                    -Gentleman Skeleton Brook

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                      @Oshawott:

                      The problem with episodes like this that are animated so beautifully is that Toei can't handle the quality and cost, so they'll revert to the usual animation within the next few episodes. It would be amazing if all of "Roof Piece" could be animated this well and consistently… but it won't be. Also if I had a dime for every Oden flashback, callback or reference that we've had during the Onigashima invasion arc, I'd have at least $50 by now. :getlost:

                      This has absolutely nothing to do with cost. It's all about good scheduling and management so important episodes can look amazing like this, which Wano has been doing quite impressively for a weekly, long running anime. We got lots of awesome moments already.

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                        Lmfao. Go back to Dressrosa and try defending that.

                        Hot take: Dressrosa's problem was more an issue of audience fatigue and being hot-and-cold rather than straight-up bad. It had a lot of good episodes and moments, but when it was cold it could be absolutely frigid including one of, if not the, worst episodes in the entire 1000+ episode catalog and it melted at the climax so that's what people are going to remember about it more than anything else.

                        As for this episode…I managed to watch it before spoiling myself on sakugabooru like I have a problem doing for other big episodes and yeah, it's one of the most finely, delicately crafted ones in the entire twenty-plus year run. The first half of it with Ace and Yamato's flashback carried on perfectly from episode 1013 and two of them were just so animated in a way that most One Piece characters never are, in a technical sense. I'm going to confess that I'm not the hugest Yamato fan because I'm not a fan of the whole "introducing-a-super-important-character-with-little-to-no-foreshadowing-at-the-eleventh-hour" circumstance so I think that scene went a long way towards endearing him to me, along with Saori Hayami's voice acting. Then the second half of the episode had me on the edge of my seat, even if it was essentially just people standing around and talking. Ishitani's episodes just keep turning into bigger and bigger events; this one was super-stacked with talent, and much to my surprise Takashi Kojima and Masami Mori's co-alum Takumi Yamamoto helped out on animation direction as well.

                        I had completely forgotten that there was going to be a recap next week. Henry Thurlow has been teasing another "behemoth" episode in the coming weeks and I can't wait to watch it!

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                          Hmm, from the reactions I've seen, seems like this episode didn't take a hit in the quality department from the delay/hack. Will check it out now (or soon).

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                            Hm… not a positive reaction from me. They tried way to hard to make it look cool and badass. And there is one thing that annoyed me since Wano started in the Anime. The series got way too flashy. Unnecessary imo
                            So in my book, after my first view, it was not satisfying. Please turn down the effects... but probably it will get "worse"

                            @Oshawott:

                            The problem with episodes like this that are animated so beautifully is that Toei can't handle the quality and cost, so they'll revert to the usual animation within the next few episodes. It would be amazing if all of "Roof Piece" could be animated this well and consistently… but it won't be. Also if I had a dime for every Oden flashback, callback or reference that we've had during the Onigashima invasion arc, I'd have at least $50 by now. :getlost:

                            It's been a while since I've interacted here and looks like leaving this bitter place was a great decision.

                            If even an episode like this doesn't please y'all then literally absolutely nothing will.

                            Lost cause.

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                              It's been a while since I've interacted here and looks like leaving this bitter place was a great decision.

                              If even an episode like this doesn't please y'all then literally absolutely nothing will.

                              Lost cause.

                              Its ok, its actually good and incredibly healthy for people to have differing opinions.

                              Its a good way to illustrate how people are different.

                              and it ensures that the community doesn't become an echo chamber.

                              One of the reasons I don't visit reddit is that it the way the system is designed, it highly favors echo chambers. eg, most voted comments always showing up on top and any differing opinion being buried.

                              HOW COME LUFFY NEVER KILLS AN ENEMY?

                              ODA:ITS BECAUSE IN THAT ERA EVERYONE USES THEIR LIVES TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS. FOR AN ENEMY WHEN THEIR DREAM HAS BEEN SHATTERED,IT IS AS PAINFUL AS DEATH,I BELIEVE FOR A PIRATE NOT TO KILL AN ENEMY , IT'S GIVING THEM A SECOND CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS.

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                                Has anyone else realized Ishitani’s next episode will be Luffy v Kaido’s final battle? Lines up pretty close; she directs an episode every thirty or so, and those big events with Luffy are about forty or so away. I’m betting she handles the Nika reveal episode. Seems like her thing.

                                But man, this episode was gorgeous. Two brutal cuts in the Yamato holding the vivre card and Luffy seeing everyone beaten after remembering them together.

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                                @News:

                                It's been a while since I've interacted here and looks like leaving this bitter place was a great decision.

                                If even an episode like this doesn't please y'all then literally absolutely nothing will.

                                Lost cause.

                                Yeah, I’d ignore that. It’s probably intentional trolls. Idk how on earth anyone wouldn’t be satisfied with an Ishitani episode.

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                                  Goddamn, what an episode. The screenshots don't do this episode justice. It's such a masterpiece in motion.

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                                    OPIC episode, without a doubt. 🙂
                                    It was 10X times better than the manga.
                                    Thank you, Toei, the wait was worth it!

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                                      Absolutely awesome and damn that was movie quality animation.

                                      I absolutely love the scene with Kinemon and Luffy where it switch to Zoro and showing the veins on his hand to point out how pissed he is

                                      Give it into my veins TOEI

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                                        this was simply awesome , this got me hyped more than i thought it would despite knowing what was going to happen , and it did it twice aswell with yamato for nakama and the whole roof part

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                                        The problem with episodes like this that are animated so beautifully is that Toei can't handle the quality and cost, so they'll revert to the usual animation within the next few episodes. It would be amazing if all of "Roof Piece" could be animated this well and consistently… but it won't be.

                                        we all wish every episode was as great as this , but honestly for an anime that is out every week ( compare it to the other anime`s that do 10 episode and set next season for 2025!! ) , they are doing a good job

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                                          Amazing episode. I hope the key moments in this raid are as awesomely animated.

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                                            @Takto:

                                            Hm… not a positive reaction from me. They tried way to hard to make it look cool and badass. And there is one thing that annoyed me since Wano started in the Anime. The series got way too flashy. Unnecessary imo
                                            So in my book, after my first view, it was not satisfying. Please turn down the effects... but probably it will get "worse"

                                            I change my verdict. When I wrote this I watched only the last 5 minutes of the episode. Basically the part I was interested in. But I heard very good things about this episode across the board, which never happens. So I watched it completely. And it was really an awesome episodes. Very well done. Transitions were amazing as well. Now I am looking forward to some nasty moments. 9 out a 10. But the flashyness and the cringy Luffy posing still not sit well with me.

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                                              One Piece sakuga nut and resident Katsumi Ishizuka fanboy

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                                                what a great episode that was, well done ~ i was waiting for this ofc since chapter 1000 like a ton of people

                                                so great, i'm happy that i could see that 😊:wub:

                                                (little hiccup without the clear similarity of the shanks-hat-scene but well)

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                                                  It's so rare to have some character acting in One Piece episodes, and this one does this flawlessly! The rythm, the extended parts, the connection between the first and the second parts of the episode, all of them bring such a fresh air to the usual approach to the series that makes the episode feels really special.

                                                  Nice touch to bring how important Luffy is to Yamato, before making the showdown appear in full glory. Got reminded a lot of Ghibli while watching it, mostly because the way they animated liquids (blood loss, in this case) is a LOT similar to what the powerhouse studio can do, and Linlin is giving me Yubaba vibes.

                                                  The flashback before Red Roc hit home, and I found myself a bit emotional lol nicely done

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                                                    The perfect send-off to the samurai here only further solidifies my belief that what happens to them next is some of the worst writing in the entire manga.

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                                                      Superb effort by all involved. It was spectacular, but of the three big Ishitani episodes, I think her first remains my favorite, with her second being a close second, and this one being a very close third.

                                                      Not even related to the animation itself, but I love how the episode cuts from the opening song directly to the episode title. No recap. No narration. Nothing. Just starts with pure episode. Now THAT is maximizing your output on an episode.

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                                                        I rewatch the episode again today. Like before this episode is just amazing. One thing I forgot to mention that I like about the episode that I like they shown that montage with the moments from Zou, Whole Cake Island, and Wano from Luffy's point of view before he went to attack Kaido with Red Roc.

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                                                          @G1Ravage:

                                                          Superb effort by all involved. It was spectacular, but of the three big Ishitani episodes, I think her first remains my favorite, with her second being a close second, and this one being a very close third.

                                                          Not even related to the animation itself, but I love how the episode cuts from the opening song directly to the episode title. No recap. No narration. Nothing. Just starts with pure episode. Now THAT is maximizing your output on an episode.

                                                          The first is surely the one who came out too much better than the manga counterpart. The Warlord sequence had no business to be so good and still delivered an awesome portrayal of characters we don't even need in this arc.

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                                                            So hearing things I checked this episode.

                                                            Yeah, that was extremely solid. If the show consistently nailed it like this where the filler is appropriate and adds and the pacing is still good and the drama is enhanced then I'd be watching all the time. That was a superb episode.

                                                            That entire sequence in Yamato's mmind when thinking about Roger/Luffy's words was gorgeous. Also we got a scene of Yamato watching Ace's vivre card dissapear which was something I was hoping to see in flashback at some point. I guess that's never coming now in the manga proper but its a really solid addition.

                                                            Kinemon's "death" scene was fantastic as well and makes future events that lessen it even worse.

                                                            Imagine if they just cut down to two dozen episodes a year like every other ongoing Jump anime does now instead of the weekly churn year round.

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                                                              What an amazing episode. The animation and build up was simply beautiful.

                                                              I liked how they connected Luffy’s and Roger’s secret dream but what’s incredibly funny is that they made it seem like, with the climax, that their secret dream was to become the Pirate King xD.

                                                              I worry that some people might not get the deeper hidden lore here that has been researched on this forum extensively, that people started to notice ever since we got to know Shanks said those things to Rayleigh.

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                                                                Amazing episode! If the anime adaptation were to become seasonal instead of weekly would every episode be as high quality as this?

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                                                                  No, because episodes like this take a lot of time and careful planning, and the staff behind it can't be everywhere at once.

                                                                  I'm going to say, generally, that if you pay attention to the overall quality of seasonal shows across the whole industry, outside of the once-in-every-so-many-years "big thing" tentpoles the vast majority of them would be lucky to receive even one episode as high-quality as this one throughout their entire run, let alone all the other big episodes One Piece has had lately. The pacing issues remain depending on the episode, but taken as a whole the Wano arc's adaptation has been putting the majority of its peers to shame.

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                                                                    I also think it’s easy to just look on the bright side of pacing, and ignore the chance that if the anime went season we’d have things missing from the manga like how MHA or Promised never land did

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                                                                      If One Piece released seasonally with 24 episodes a year, I think we'd be lucky if they were at Whole Cake right now. It would be great for that to happen after One Piece was over, though, and maybe it might capture the young Japanese audience again and rejuvenate the series.

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                                                                        No, because episodes like this take a lot of time and careful planning, and the staff behind it can't be everywhere at once.

                                                                        I'm going to say, generally, that if you pay attention to the overall quality of seasonal shows across the whole industry, outside of the once-in-every-so-many-years "big thing" tentpoles the vast majority of them would be lucky to receive even one episode as high-quality as this one throughout their entire run, let alone all the other big episodes One Piece has had lately. The pacing issues remain depending on the episode, but taken as a whole the Wano arc's adaptation has been putting the majority of its peers to shame.

                                                                        Yeah, definitely. Exceptions like Ranking of Kings or Demon Slayer are far from being a good representation of how short, seasonal animes look these days. Wano's quality is almost unbelievable.

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                                                                          we’d have things missing from the manga like Promised never land did

                                                                          Please do not reopen old wounds. :sad:

                                                                          Otherwise, I agree with the opinion of most and consider the episode to be remarkable both visually and in terms of content.

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                                                                            This is a great episode. The direction is phenomenal, and honestly is more amazing than even some of the earlier One Piece episodes. I especially liked the flashback of Ace,Sabo and Luffy making their declarations, and the Ace's parting with Yamato was just a visual spectacle. I definitely liked this more than the previous Ishitani episode. The last episode I watched completely was 1000, and saying I was disappointed would be putting it mildly. So I didn't have a lot of expectations, and so this was a pleasant surprise.
                                                                            Honestly I don't think 1 or 2 episodes make the anime equal to or better than seasonal shows or movies, and I do think some of the praise is a bit exaggerated. But the main strength of Ishitani episodes is how they basically create great screentime out of practically scraps of content, being able to make even flashbacks and padding as visually appealing.

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                                                                              What a great turn around for the anime. Pacing issues is what keep me away from it weekly but the eye candy is so appreciated and I can still enjoy it in clips vs the absolute bottom of the quality that was the stretch of fishman island to dress rosa with powerpoint tier like padding and terrible art in filler stills.

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                                                                                No, because episodes like this take a lot of time and careful planning, and the staff behind it can't be everywhere at once.

                                                                                I'm going to say, generally, that if you pay attention to the overall quality of seasonal shows across the whole industry, outside of the once-in-every-so-many-years "big thing" tentpoles the vast majority of them would be lucky to receive even one episode as high-quality as this one throughout their entire run, let alone all the other big episodes One Piece has had lately. The pacing issues remain depending on the episode, but taken as a whole the Wano arc's adaptation has been putting the majority of its peers to shame.

                                                                                Sure… but One Piece has been THE big series for literal decades now. Number 1 manga consistently aside the one year attack on titan hit big, and the last few years with Demon Slayer and Jujutsu. It SHOULD be treated as a crown jewel and have the proper time and budget thrown at it as much as possible. Same with Dragonball and Sailor Moon that both got a little screwed in their most recent outings. Dragonball Super picked up the animation quality in its second half but was pretty abysmal its first year. And Sailor Moon Crystal isn't liked by basically anyone so they're just doing movies to finish it out.

                                                                                No, obviously every episode can't give it 120% movie quality, especially not in animation, but there's no reason it shouldn't consistently be a solid 90%.

                                                                                Except for the fact they're doing it weekly and there are raw human limits in play.

                                                                                And if they were only doing 20-25 episodes a year instead of 50, that'd be much much easier to do.

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                                                                                I also think it’s easy to just look on the bright side of pacing, and ignore the chance that if the anime went season we’d have things missing from the manga like how MHA or Promised never land did

                                                                                MHA did that because they didn't want to spend 10 episodes on villains. The same way OP never does the cover stories. That wasn't because they couldn't have done it, its because they chose not to.

                                                                                And Promised Neverland is a case where the studio clearly decided they just didn't want to do it anymore since the manga ended and it was only a hit, instead of a super mega hit. That SHOULD have been a 5 year show. Yeah the manga had some weaknesses but the anime could have really propped it up. If they'd wanted to.

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                                                                                If One Piece released seasonally with 24 episodes a year, I think we'd be lucky if they were at Whole Cake right now.

                                                                                You're assuming the same exact pacing as the show has right now, where its one chapter (or less) per episode. If it was a proper 2 or 3 chapters per episode, it'd pace much tighter and it would stay caught up just fine.

                                                                                A little bit of filler and add on is fine when they're inspired. Showcasing off-panelled fights or extra intimate moments or whatnot. But when they're just slowing things down or reiterating jokes to pad for time it sucks.

                                                                                But something is very very wrong when the anime is adapting chapter 1000 on episode 1015. It's not even like the show does lengthy filler arcs between the big stories to buy some breathing room for a few months (nothing worthwhile since G8) they mostly just… slow things down.

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                                                                                  Thing is pacing didn't use to be that bad for most of pre timeskip. It's not like they don't know what they're doing. I don't get the One Piece anime can't be better defense it's something I heard when I was complaining years ago about how bad marineford was visually and pacing wise before dropping it as a weekly watch and mostly returning it here and there. Zou was the first time I felt like the anime became enjoyable to watch again which it wasn't to me since right before pre timeskip.
                                                                                  Now we reached Wano and even if I put aside my distaste at how immensely over the top flashy it has become at times it's just plain fact that One Piece never ever has looked better in its TV anime form than in Wano. It's a testament that things can be better if the powers that be around it will it so. While I understand excuses like animators were overworked during the bad years of the TV anime because of other projects I don't see why I should care as a consumer because it actually just makes it worse that the people in charge overwork their workforce to the bone to put out such a lousy product and they should have been held responsible way sooner. Barking up consumers to feel for the animators just felt weirdly misplaced. When it should have been the animators aren't really at fault but blast away at the idiots steering the actual ship.

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                                                                                    Thing is pacing didn't use to be that bad for most of pre timeskip.

                                                                                    It had good pacing for the first three years. It was good up until Alabasta, which is when they pretty much ate the first few years buffer and caught up. they'd hada few standalone filler episodes up till then, notable fleshing out Logue Town and having Ace spend soem tiem with the group (and Apis) but not a whole lot of filler overall.

                                                                                    It got iffy but still watchable during Skypeia, which is when they switched from two chapters per episode to 1.5, then outride bad during Water 7 when it went down to 1. And ewwww the filler they did during the Foxy arc. I stopped watching long before it got to Thriller Bark but I remember the complaints being pretty heavy for it at the time.

                                                                                    The pacign being good for the first 130 episodes and then bad to awful for the next 400 is not in any way "not that bad most of pre-timeskip."

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                                                                                      It had good pacing for the first three years. It was good up until Alabasta, which is when they pretty much ate the first few years buffer and caught up. they'd hada few standalone filler episodes up till then, notable fleshing out Logue Town and having Ace spend soem tiem with the group (and Apis) but not a whole lot of filler overall.

                                                                                      It got iffy but still watchable during Skypeia, which is when they switched from two chapters per episode to 1.5, then outride bad during Water 7 when it went down to 1. And ewwww the filler they did during the Foxy arc. I stopped watching long before it got to Thriller Bark but I remember the complaints being pretty heavy for it at the time.

                                                                                      The pacign being good for the first 130 episodes and then bad to awful for the next 400 is not in any way "not that bad most of pre-timeskip."

                                                                                      It's fair to have issues with pre timeskip pacing but the main thing most of pre time skip wasn't 1 or less than 1 chapter adapted per episode that is just another dimension of bad too me. Personally I thought the anime was still very watchable up to thriller bark when 1 chapter per episode started to pop up more and more they also still did filler arcs back then which by design made things less bad than now.

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                                                                                        Like, its not the anime's fault when Oda does a three or four year arc like Water 7 or Wano where they can't really put in filler arcs… but they then fail to take any advantage and pad things when those arcs end.

                                                                                        Just do a good old fashion 10=12 episode filler arc once one of these mega events finishes. It won't stave things off forever but if they actually did it between every arc it'd buy that extra little bit of breathing room... especially since Oda takes breaks so regularly now and does closer to 36 than 46 chapters a year.

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                                                                                          Didn't Naruto just do filler arcs right in the middle of canon material?

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                                                                                            Didn't Naruto just do filler arcs right in the middle of canon material?

                                                                                            Yup, it's why they got to do some near original material in fewer episodes and also organize the production schedule better (i.e. let animators and directors work on the chapters they really wanted to cover, like Yamashita Hiroyuki directing Shippuuden #476-477, the two Naruto v. Sasuke episodes).

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                                                                                              I think Toei fears ratings slipping if they do fillers… which is sad because ratings are already slipping. Pretty Cure beat it the week before this one.

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                                                                                                I mean the main thing with great base material is also One Pace actually improves the viewing experience. I know I tried One Pace cuts of some fishman island episodes and while it wasn't as stretched out you couldn't get around the fact that the base material was just awful.

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                                                                                                    @Robby:

                                                                                                    It had good pacing for the first three years. It was good up until Alabasta, which is when they pretty much ate the first few years buffer and caught up. they'd hada few standalone filler episodes up till then, notable fleshing out Logue Town and having Ace spend soem tiem with the group (and Apis) but not a whole lot of filler overall.

                                                                                                    It got iffy but still watchable during Skypeia, which is when they switched from two chapters per episode to 1.5, then outride bad during Water 7 when it went down to 1. And ewwww the filler they did during the Foxy arc. I stopped watching long before it got to Thriller Bark but I remember the complaints being pretty heavy for it at the time.

                                                                                                    The pacign being good for the first 130 episodes and then bad to awful for the next 400 is not in any way "not that bad most of pre-timeskip."

                                                                                                    Even with 1.5 chapters, the pacing would have been double of what it it currently is, so it is not wrong to say that pre-timeskip pacing was much better. 1 chapter per episode became standard during Thriller Bark, but IMO Thriller Bark and Saobandy still did a much better job with that pacing than what Fishman Island and Punk Hazard did. I haven't watched Impel Down and Marineford in ages, but I think they may be the only arcs Pre-Timesekip, along with Foxy ofc, where the quality of the anime is just terrible. Otherwise it's still decent enough coming from Toei.

                                                                                                    Honestly I think the argument of seasonal vs yearly is not that important. You can do a much better job of making a long-running anime series, and this has been shown by all the other shounen adaptations. But for that you have to actually decide to move away from the ancient DBZ working style. You can either make long fillers like Naruto, or you can the route of HunterXHunter or Fairy Tail and stop broadcasting for some time

                                                                                                    Even with seasonal anime, if the producers decided to make 25 episodes every year, that'd easily convert to 50+ chapters that get made in the year. The problem is that the producers may not approve 25 episodes per year. Honestly the days are long gone when you can pass off episodes with a meagre content of just 15-30 pages and expect people to become interested. But I am guessing the current model still works financially for whatever reasons, so I have no hopes

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                                                                                                      I'm a bit late but wow, I thought they did a great job with this episode. As someone else said, the only problem is that you know it's only temporary and it just makes you think about what it would be like if they whole series was done with this amount of polish.

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                                                                                                      Hot take: Dressrosa's problem was more an issue of audience fatigue and being hot-and-cold rather than straight-up bad. It had a lot of good episodes and moments, but when it was cold it could be absolutely frigid including one of, if not the, worst episodes in the entire 1000+ episode catalog and it melted at the climax so that's what people are going to remember about it more than anything else.

                                                                                                      As someone who had taken a long break and come back to binge the anime around that point, I didn't have any major issue with Dressrosa. It really did improve in a lot of aspects after that, though I still find the constant dragging out of scenes to be tedious and I almost wish they'd just make more filler episodes again. But I'm curious, what was the worst episode you're talking about? I don't remember much of it specifically now.

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                                                                                                        As someone who had taken a long break and come back to binge the anime around that point, I didn't have any major issue with Dressrosa. It really did improve in a lot of aspects after that, though I still find the constant dragging out of scenes to be tedious and I almost wish they'd just make more filler episodes again. But I'm curious, what was the worst episode you're talking about? I don't remember much of it specifically now.

                                                                                                        I forget what number it is at the moment, but I'm thinking of the episode where Usopp "defeats" Sugar with that slingshot jack-in-the-box contraption and awakens to Observation Haki. I remember it being painfully slow, painfully ugly, and poorly directed all at one of the worst possible times. The only thing that takes the sting off is that Oda hasn't really done much of anything with Usopp's supposed Observation Haki ability since.

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