That's exactly what is going to happen.
Of course it will! After all, they are the main characters of One Piece.
That's exactly what is going to happen.
Of course it will! After all, they are the main characters of One Piece.
Of course it will! After all, they are the main characters of One Piece.
Scabbards are going to beat him because Kaido is a weak jobber. The idea that he is going to get up next chapter be like "Heh…I've only been using 1% of my power!!!Time to get serious!!!" and then start taking them out is nonsense fanfiction to try and excuse Kaido's horrible portrayal.
Scabbards are going to beat him because Kaido is a weak jobber. The idea that he is going to get up next chapter be like "Heh…I've only been using 1% of my power!!!Time to get serious!!!" and then start taking them out is nonsense fanfiction to try and excuse Kaido's horrible portrayal.
John, you're actually believing that Kaidou will be defeated by side characters WITHOUT Luffy's involvement whatsoever. Tell me how that is consistent with how One Piece arcs had been told.
Seriously here, John. Are you even gonna own up to all your past posts when (in your terms, "if") Kaidou makes a come back?
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Seriously here, John. Are you even gonna own up to all your past posts when (in your terms, "if") Kaidou makes a come back?
Yes actually I will unlike a lot of other people who just ignore their past failed predictions. If and that is a very, VERY big IF Kaido actually does snap and take them out like a boss then yes I will admit I was wrong.
Being right there in the first post wasn't good enough? :wassat:
Sorry, I didn't pay attention. I will read it carefully next time. Thank you for your work on this forum.
Honestly, looking at the penultimate page of the chapter, Kaido doesn't seem very hurt at all. Yes he's getting cut, but chances are there is no damage to vital organs, and blood loss is negligible since he's a freaking giant monster. We still don't know technically if the last page did much more damage, but it probably didn't.
The scabbards are being drawn to be more bruised and tired than Kaido, actually.
It was still nice to see Oden’s followers help out the Straw Hats by roughing up Kaido a little bit before the time comes for Luffy and/or Zoro to use their own proper methods to kick Kaido’s ass all the way to his defeat.
Yes of course he is going to surpass them soon. A shonen protagonist will always learn things at a faster rate than his predecessors. I am just talking about the road ahead.
Absolutely surpass them soon?Just because he is the protagonist, doesn't mean that he will surpass Roger and Whitebeard.
Stop with the exaggeration
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If anything it show what a monster luffy is remember he is only 20 and Roger and WB had 20 years on him at that point.
He in the learning stages still and already near the top .
Damn calm down Luffy barely "beat" Katakuri. Yes he has gotten stronger, but stop the exaggeration
Kaido, Big Mom, Akainu, Roger, WB these and were monsters, but Luffy is still not close to them, even if seems to have more chances now, after what is going on with Kaido and Luffy's "level up"
Scabbards are going to beat him because Kaido is a weak jobber. The idea that he is going to get up next chapter be like "Heh…I've only been using 1% of my power!!!Time to get serious!!!" and then start taking them out is nonsense fanfiction to try and excuse Kaido's horrible portrayal.
I don't believe that you actually believe this tbh.
I don't believe that you actually believe this tbh.
He does and it's pretty annoying that he can spread 24/7…
Awesome chapter! I guess we will be getting Kaido's background story next chapter. The theme will be about betrayal. Opposite to Scabbard's loyalty.
I don't believe that you actually believe this tbh.
This guy is here just to stir people up.
Whitebeard Commander = Izo = Oden Scabbard
So does Oden Scabbard = Whitebeard Commander ?
Dude. Oden was a Whitebeard Commander.
Damn calm down Luffy barely "beat" Katakuri. Yes he has gotten stronger, but stop the exaggeration
Kaido, Big Mom, Akainu, Roger, WB these and were monsters, but Luffy is still not close to them, even if seems to have more chances now, after what is going on with Kaido and Luffy's "level up"
Him barely beating Kat don't really mean much .
You do know that luffy got to kat level in CoO in 12 hours which something Kat has been doing for years .
Now fast forward 2 week his CoA that he was weaker in now get a major power up .
Yes he still weaker than those top tier people but luffy is only 20 year old which is why i said he still in the learning stage .
Like Roger and those guys are monster but there 40 years plus and have many years on him but that don't change how far he gotten , how much he has did and how stronger he become in such short time.
To use a real world eg luffy is mike tyson of the OP world when you look at is age , what he doing and how strong he is.
Why was Marco in flame mode? Did he heal someone? Hope he didn’t heal BM.
Is like Shanks showing haki in front Whitebeard. In front an emperor you don't show weakness.
Awesome chapter. A real change of pace to see someone other than the protagonist or Strawhats fighting so well against the main villain.
To be honest, some commenters are right. Kaidou doesn't seem as invincible or scary as Enel or Crocodile did. But this time in their respective arcst they had already defeated tons of minor characters and seemed completely invincible before a Luffy-ex-machina appeared to save the day. They were all ready to destroy everything around them. Kaidou only defeated Luffy so far (on screen), once, and was already kind of defeated by Oden. By taking this much damage by the samurai we can really say that he is NOT like other OP villains so far.
But, also, that's not a problem? Let's try different things. I'm enjoying Wano.
Him barely beating Kat don't really mean much .
You do know that luffy got to kat level in CoO in 12 hours which something Kat has been doing for years .
Now fast forward 2 week his CoA that he was weaker in now get a major power up .
Yes he still weaker than those top tier people but luffy is only 20 year old which is why i said he still in the learning stage .
Like Roger and those guys are monster but there 40 years plus and have many years on him but that don't change how far he gotten , how much he has did and how stronger he become in such short time.
To use a real world eg luffy is mike tyson of the OP world when you look at is age , what he doing and how strong he is.
To use a real world eg, Luffy is Oda's protagonist, we are the endgame of One Piece so his development is exponentially too fast and to high, which is given due the endgame reasons understandable, but not logically believable especially his young age is absurd.
2 years Ago Luffy didn't know what Haki is and now he is just…
I wish the Scabbards would go against all expectations and actually defeat Kaido. Oda wants to be unpredictable, so let them finish what they started.
Even better if Big Mom takes over as the Governor General of the Beast Pirates, with some cheeky remark how King still ended up in her collection. O'lin / Chopper style.
To use a real world eg, Luffy is Oda's protagonist, we are the endgame of One Piece so his development is exponentially too fast and to high, which is given due the endgame reasons understandable, but not logically believable especially his young age is absurd.
2 years Ago Luffy didn't know what Haki is and now he is just…
He knows everything you can be taught about Haki already. Rayleigh left him with the knowledge that everything else he'll need to get stronger will come through battle. I wouldn't expect anything like a full training arc in the future or Luffy to run away from any foe because he doesn't feel strong enough to fight him. That would be inconsistent with his approach towards Fujitora and Kaido. He only ran from Big Mom because of the needs of the crew.
I'd like to make it clear before next chapter hits that I'm very, very, very deeply cemented into the "Kaido will make his comeback the next scene we get with Kaido vs the Scabbards" camp.
To use a real world eg, Luffy is Oda's protagonist, we are the endgame of One Piece so his development is exponentially too fast and to high, which is given due the endgame reasons understandable, but not logically believable especially his young age is absurd.
2 years Ago Luffy didn't know what Haki is and now he is just…
It's not absurd in fact it happens all the time in the real world for sports and other fields .
Some time raw talent can carry you very far but it's not only that luffy has a crazy family tree , top class people that help and train him and he also lucky .
EDIT to give you some real world eg Tyson become WHC at 20 year old and the fight was easy and Tenshin Nasukawa was monster at young age ( these are combat sports)
Messi has been a monster since he was 16 ,Bolt was monster since he was in high school and the list goes on and on .
I'd like to make it clear before next chapter hits that I'm very, very, very deeply cemented into the "Kaido will make his comeback the next scene we get with Kaido vs the Scabbards" camp.
I say the chapter after next.
We still have Denjiro to show something named, he's the biggest badass of Wano after all who was legit strong even before the haki powerup. I assume he will be clashing against Kaido's human form (+ iron mace), similiar to Jinbe blocking Big Mom's Cognac.
Dude. Oden was a Whitebeard Commander.
Okay.
So Oden was able to hurt Kaidou.
Can hurt Kaidou = Oden = Whitbeard Commander = Izo = Red Scabbard (any of them)
Math checks out
Absolutely surpass them soon?Just because he is the protagonist, doesn't mean that he will surpass Roger and Whitebeard.
Stop with the exaggeration
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Damn calm down Luffy barely "beat" Katakuri. Yes he has gotten stronger, but stop the exaggeration
Kaido, Big Mom, Akainu, Roger, WB these and were monsters, but Luffy is still not close to them, even if seems to have more chances now, after what is going on with Kaido and Luffy's "level up"
Luffy when he becomes pirate king and defeats Celestial dragons he would've surpassed Roger. And whether you like it or not it's happening soon (in OP timeline).
It's not absurd in fact it happens all the time in the real world for sports and other fields .
Some time raw talent can carry you very far but it's not only that luffy has a crazy family tree , top class people that help and train him and he also lucky .EDIT to give you some real world eg Tyson become WHC at 20 year old and the fight was easy and Tenshin Nasukawa was monster at young age ( these are combat sports)
Messi has been a monster since he was 16 ,Bolt was monster since he was in high school and the list goes on and on .
We can't use Messi or Bolt as real life sportler as comparison with a fictional character in a fictional story.
Let's simply agree that we disagree, as I am not very comfortable with this "story aspect" :)
We can't use Messi or Bolt as real life sportler as comparison with a fictional character in a fictional story.
Let's simply agree that we disagree, as I am not very comfortable with this "story aspect" :)
I mean this is a series that had BM being a monster at 8 years old or Boa don't forget Oden etc etc .
So even if we using manga as context it all works out the same and luffy was never average in any way .( look who he train with)
But okay lets agree to disagree.
Luffy when he becomes pirate king and defeats Celestial dragons he would've surpassed Roger. And whether you like it or not it's happening soon (in OP timeline).
Could be, but saying it definitively is not up to us. It's an interpretation for our headcanon.
As long as Luffy never fought Whitebeard and Roger in their prime, it's not just easy to say he will surpass them, as Luffy's story is more important.
Hot damn that was an awesome chapter.
Scabbards got their showing, they can fall out of the picture until the end of the arc now. I guess next week is going to be Kaidou finally getting serious. Maybe thanking them for letting him actually finish his fight with Oden.
Or the start of a flashback. Pieces are in place.
Carrot getting revenge on Prospero was obvious from the moment Pospero was the only BM flunkie to make it to the battle and Oda going super out of his way to do so. Is just beating him up going to be justice enough? She has to want to actually kill him. And that just isn't going going to happen. So…
Yamato with the white hair! Nice!
Even Kaido are surprise
Come on guy just wait for the explanation
Carrot getting revenge on Prospero was obvious from the moment Pospero was the only BM flunkie to make it to the battle and Oda going super out of his way to do so. Is just beating him up going to be justice enough? She has to want to actually kill him. And that just isn't going going to happen. So…
Just sayin', it was enough for Nami and Arlong, Chopper and Wapol, the whole of Fishman Island and Hody's gang. And you know Luffy ain't killing BB or Akainu despite what they did to Ace. It's just a OP good guy thing.
Just sayin', it was enough for Nami and Arlong, Chopper and Wapol, the whole of Fishman Island and Hody's gang. And you know Luffy ain't killing BB or Akainu despite what they did to Ace. It's just a OP good guy thing.
In all those cases (also Axe Hand and Kuro and Krieg and Crocodile and Enel and Moria and Dofla/Diamante) beating them up was also about stripping them of their power, ending their ambition, and freeing others, not JUST about hitting them to feel good. About the only real straight up revenge just for revenge sake fight was Bellamy, and that wasn't really a fight and nothing else was going on around it. (And I guess they got back what was stolen.)
Luffy did not go out of his way to seek revenge on Croc or Moria during the war, and he holds zero grudge against the likes of Buggy and Mr. 3 and Ceaser. Crocodile is pretty much the only time he's stayed angry at someone past their given arc.
This is a really random detour in the middle of an already crowded arc that has literally zero connection to it. The only reason for it the be happening right now is because Carrot won't be around later to do it when they deal with BM on Elbaf or whatever.
Otherwise Oda bending over backwards SO strongly to force exactly one of Big Mom's kids into this fight is really really weird while still leaving others like Smoothie, Katakuri, Oven, and especially Pudding (who still has business with Sanji) out of it is really weird.
Either Big Mom's crew arrives later in the arc to be a dramatic reversal, in which case Prospero could have come then… or they stay out of it entirely... except for one of them? It's weird.
In all those cases (also Crocodile and Enel and Moria and Dofla/Diamante) beating them up was also about stripping them of their power and freeing others, not JUST about hitting them to feel good. About the only real straight up revenge just for revenge sake fight was Bellamy, and that wasn't really a fight and nothing else was going on around it.
This is a really random detour in the middle of an already crowded arc that has literally zero connection to it. The only reason for it the be happening right now is because Carrot won't be around later to do it when they deal with BM on Elbaf or whatever.
Otherwise Oda bending over backwards SO strongly to force exactly one of Big Mom's kids into this fight is really really weird while still leaving others like Smoothie, Katakuri, Oven, and especially Pudding (who still has business with Sanji) out of it is really weird.
Either Big Mom's crew arrives later in the arc to be a dramatic reversal, in whihch case Prospero could have come then… or they stay out of it entirely... except for one of them? It's weird.
That doesn't just apply to Perospero, it would apply to all of Kaido's guys as well. With Drake as the only Marine around, getting any of them properly arrested is gonna be a major ordeal, but however they're dealt with, that could easily wrap up Peros, too. This is definitely his last stand, but no way Carrot goes for the kill.
And I'm not so sure BM will be the antagonist of Elbaf, either. She was brought to Wano when Kaido would have been more than enough, and if he's going down, or at least being knocked down a peg, I don't think she'll get away unscathed. Luffy has the Ryou he needs to beat her now, and the crew has shown that she's no real threat if they're all together. There's no reason why she'd need to extend her influence over to Elbaf, a third locale, when the tension she provided has been just about dissolved over the past few chapters. She might be able to escape thanks to her kids down the falls, but I don't think she'll be leaving in any condition to cause trouble for a while.
I'm not even gonna comment of whether Carrot will or won't be around, you know where I stand on that.
And I'm not so sure BM will be the antagonist of Elbaf, either.
Who said anything about antagonist of Elbaf? She still has business and plot threads there, plus all the stuff with Lola that the cover story is setting up for right now. And everything with Pudding. Unless Oda throws a hell of a curve, she's got a ton of story that takes place there, but that doesn't require her to be the big enemy at that point. Especially with all the nice O-lin amnesia stuff and the hunger cravings that need to be dealt with..
There's at least one more outing for her crew, and immediately post-Kaidou doesn't make much sense. And if they're showing up DURING Kaidou why go out of the way to move just the one particular piece so early? (Unless the book theory turns out to be true but so many people are guessing that now it'll almost be lame if that turns out to be the case.)
I hope Sanji takes over the fight against Perospero from Carrot.
Perospero (probably) carries the anti-Germa bullets, rendering the Raid Suit useless.
Sanji's Diable Jambe is is the perfect counter to Perospero's candy whose weakness is heat.
And the most important thing of all, Sanji does feel guilty about Pedro's death.
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Not it's not something like that. WSC is about Kaido not about his race. He was introduced as "Kaido is a part of the strongest race in the world" He was introduced as "1v1 always bet on him. Land, sea and air, out of every living thing, this pirate is the strongest creature" Its outright a title only for him.
Could still be true, he's the strongest Ogre and Ogre are the strongest race/creatures, so that would make him the strongest creature.
It also could refer to him being a Dragon.
Until we get a clear explanation, a lot of things are head canon, wether you like it or not.
Can you stop with the head canons ? Kaido was supposed to be vicious and a killer. Instead he can't even fight properly.
No, why? Most of it is head canon. We'll see how it goes when his real fight starts.
Yes because Brook is a really great benchmark. Wow I never thought of that.
You got an example and because it doesn't fit your expectation you are displeased?
You think Brook can't judge someones strength?
Can you guys stop making OP look like a manga where there are numerous tactics behind the fights ? The one who hits stronger wins. That's how it has always been.
You are right.
But is the fight over? Did they win? Doesn't look like it, and they're not going to win.
And I'm still only one person, so don't refer to me as "you guys", thanks.
Remember, dialog.
Zoro said she can defend herself from some mooks. Not that she can hurt Kaido or that she was someone extremely strong.
Zoro said she doesn't need his help, means he acknowledges her strength.
Yes Izo was on par with Roger's son, the guy who got invited to be a shichibukai, the 550 million pirate, the guy who fought Teach… Makes sense.
Using your head canon again? Show me the proof by what you can tell who is stronger.
Because of boosted strength and teaming up against him. Not to mention Jack was fighting their entire army prior. Jack again is a nobody compared to Kaido.
They are using that same strength against Kaido, so where is the problem? It's 9 vs. 1 and this one only takes a little damage.
Katakuri is strong too.. Stronger even.. Luffy's who's on par got destroyed in a single shot by Kaido.
Yeah, while Kaido was in his human form, before that he got knocked down by Luffy…
Can you stop with the warming up stuff ? Kaido is trying to hit them and he simply can't even deal a shred of damage. The scabbards instead hurt him with every move they make like it's nothing.
No, why?
Thats a fact, Luffy is his main opponent, everything before that is warm up.
Could you please stop with the please stop stuff, seems like you can't handle facts.
That's nothing for Kaido based on what ? Him bleeding or his eyes going white from the scabbards strike ?
Based on his status, introduction, other Yonko, etc….
Whitebeard fought with half of his face and a hole in his chest, by the age of 72, so why should't Kaido be able to take at least this much?
You think Kaido is supposed to be a vicious, bloodthirsty killer. That's head canon...
All his introduction implied was, that he's strong and durable as hell. And that's what your problem is.
In a manga where inheritance of will is a big thing, you can't accept 9 Samurai who inherited their former masters will, thru which they are able to hurt the person who took their masters life.
Who said anything about antagonist of Elbaf? She still has business and plot threads there, plus all the stuff with Lola that the cover story is setting up for right now. And everything with Pudding. Unless Oda throws a hell of a curve, she's got a ton of story that takes place there, but that doesn't require her to be the big enemy at that point. Especially with all the nice O-lin amnesia stuff and the hunger cravings that need to be dealt with..
There's at least one more outing for her crew, and immediately post-Kaidou doesn't make much sense. And if they're showing up DURING Kaidou why go out of the way to move just the one particular piece so early? (Unless the book theory turns out to be true but so many people are guessing that now it'll almost be lame if that turns out to be the case.)
Just like how we didn't need Moria in Wano (BekaDidAct, BekaDidAct, BekaDidAct!) we don't strictly need BM there at all, especially if it's just retrodding the moral grey area of Olin again. Once was enough, IMO. And with five years or so to go, I think there are richer, untapped depths of development to plumb in characters besides her.
And why just Peros? Because that's who Carrot needs to face, pretty much no one else is directly responsible. The only other person she could blame is BM herself.
@All:
I hope Sanji takes over the fight against Perospero from Carrot.
Perospero (probably) carries the anti-Germa bullets, rendering the Raid Suit useless.
Sanji's Diable Jambe is is the perfect counter to Perospero's candy whose weakness is heat.
And the most important thing of all, Sanji does feel guilty about Pedro's death.
Sanji having the "perfect counter" is exactly why this matchup won't happen. If he can just melt the candy away, where would be the fun in seeing that fight?
He does and it's pretty annoying that he can spread 24/7…
It's not completely his fault if he can make snarky remarks every week.
If Oda has shown us a more balanced fight and if people have not said 'Kaidou will smash all the scabbard in one swoop next chapter' every week, you would not be annoyed
Even if I believe that Kaidou will fight back, I'm not sure we will have that scenario where everybody is defeated and Luffy arrives as the savor.
Ok, the first yonkou that falls seems like a team effort, SHs will only get their 1vs1 battles with yonkou with blackbeard pirates.
The monster trio wants to go up there like they said in 989 and 991, so full SHs crew vs kaidou seems likely, just like the oars battle with the previous ancient giant and moria that has heavy ties with kaidou. Marco vs king, carrot and wanda vs perospero, drake vs whoswho, kidd vs apoo and maybe queen later along with law.
Gotta say, Oda having Oden’s followers vs. Kaido play out this way is very much generating a whole varying assortment of interesting reactions. I suspect many other commenters by now have accused him of being a bad writer for making Kaido look weak after all that was built up, or that they’re so unfazed that they view Chapter 992’s end as “NOTHING… HAPPENED.”
Gotta say, Oda having Oden’s followers vs. Kaido play out this way is very much generating a whole varying assortment of interesting reactions. I suspect many other commenters by now have accused him of being a bad writer for making Kaido look weak after all that was built up, or that they’re so unfazed that they view Chapter 992’s end as “NOTHING… HAPPENED.”
Whatever may be the case, I find it difficult to hate on the way this chapter/fight went along. If people are still complaining after seeing the battle scene then OP isn't for them. It was beautifully done by Oda.
Oda has his story and the way he wants to portray it to everyone and people are nitpicking how it should be done. Kind of annoying to see it on forums every chapter.
Lets just enjoy these awesome chapters. You're just ruining the story for yourself. It'll all make sense in the big picture.
10/10 chapter
Great chapter to come back on after a long two weeks off (though that's still a small price to pay for Oda's health).
Interesting choice to put Yamato on the Jump cover. He's technically an important figure, but he's not doing much of note at the minute, and certainly isn't all that relevant to this chapter. Could this imply that he'll be a little more in the spotlight soon? Or did Oda just want to settle the colours for a popular fanart character sooner rather than later? (Perhaps he's decided against using Yamato on the volume 98 cover and wasn't sure when he'd get another chance). Or I'm overthinking all of this. The red horns are interesting. A point in favour of the theory that Black Maria is his mum, not that genetics are all that consistent in One Piece's world.
The colour spread is gorgeous and full of fun, playful details in that classic One Piece way, but I think Jinbei looks a little too big up the back there. Could he not fit through the doors of the train? Also, it's a little disappointing to see he's still using his Marineford-era getup as his default outfit. It would have been nice to see something different now that the timeskip has come and gone. I'd hoped it would at least be a different colour, given the change in how it's inked, but that's what you get for making colour assumptions based on Oda's inking.
Big Mom seems to have some kind of a plan for the alliance, or there's more to her truce with Kaido than we've told so far. I'm not shocked she would eventually bring her kids in line despite their objections, but the Marco-Perospero alliance is over almost as quickly as it's begun. A shame we couldn't have had at the very least some more dialogue between the two before it was over.
Despite all the characters breaking off in pairs, I wasn't convinced we were getting confirmed matchups at the time. Carrot and Wanda chasing after Perospero as a duo has me wondering if I could have been wrong. Likewise, the framing implying that Shinobu, Momo and Yamato might be drawing close to Black Maria. And speaking of her and her song, for a while I've trusted Greg's line of thinking that there might only be three acts, but this specific setup of someone to play us in and out again also has me rethinking my expectations. And with us so close to chapter 1000, from which everyone is expecting something big…
And also, it would be pretty cool for in the fade out ad the darkest hour for Hyori to be replaced with Kaido's apparent-head courtesan, to really emphasise that it's all him when it happens.
And after that, it's all spectacularly-rendered action straight through to the end of the chapter. The transition from Black Maria to the rooftop, using her song as the soundtrack to the battle is one of the few things that'll definitely hit harder in the anime. The fight that follows will likely be too drawn out to have the same punch it did here, but the transition at the start is guaranteed to be sick.
Kaido summons lightning that splits the earth. While this is new, it's not surprising given that eastern dragons are often associated with controlling the weather. We did see him bring his own stormclouds back in volume 92 (and the colour version of the volume makes it a lot easier to see exactly how centralised around an in-flight Kaido the bad weather is meant to be. But Conqueror's Haki has also been known to make lightning and crack the earth, so he could be using a bit of that too, though I'd expect another comment about copying Oden's "special trick" if that was the case.
Almost all of the Scabbards have had their own individual moment to show their stuff against Kaido now, which bodes poorly for them. Only Ashura and Denjiro remain, though they did get to be part of the big moment at the end, so maybe that counts. With all the characters we've spent the past eight volumes building up all having had their strength showcased, and none of the Strawhat/ally battles in the dome even properly started, let alone feeling so close to concluding, it feels more inevitable than ever that the tide will turn back in Kaido's favour.
The translation of Raizo's attack is interesting. Apparently, in the original Japanese, the wording of it had a similar structure to a devil fruit name (Scroll Scroll or Roll Roll), which would go a long way to explain all the weird shit he can just kinda do. But Stephen has translated it as "Scrolling Jutsu." I wonder if this is one of those things where he got an editorial behind-the-scenes tip that no, Oda wasn't trying to name a devil fruit there.
The chapter ends with Kaido taking his biggest hit yet. But remember how literally every Kaido fight so far has gone: he takes a surprising amount of damage or hits in dragon form, falls to the ground, transforms back to his human(ish) mode and ends things almost instantly with his club. Oda isn't known for being predictable, but he does know how to utilise a pattern. We'll see where it all ends up next week. I didn't expect to have so much to say about a chapter that was mostly action and attack names, but I guess it just goes to show how many balls this series manages to keep in the air at once.
As a final note, I can't wait to come back to this chapter in a couple of years when the colour version hits. You can see Oda substituting screentones and hatching for full inking in a lot of places where things were getting too busy or the lighting needed to be emphasised, especially across Kaido's scales. The colouring team has always been good at bringing full vibrancy back to things Oda had to have fade into the background so as not to overwhelm a black and white panel. It's gonna look incredible.
That flashback prior to the Oden-Nitoryu made me cried.
Not sure if party due to the long break but mostly definitely due to redemption for our scabbards.
It must have felt so refreshing for them to release all those hidden emotions through this particular battle.
Also, it's a little disappointing to see he's still using his Marineford-era getup as his default outfit.
Everyone in the spread is wearing their immediate post timeskip outfit. Since Jinbe didn't get a Sabondy outfit, he gets the thing we saw closest to that.
I'd hoped it would at least be a different colour, given the change in how it's inked, .
It's in the new anime opening. The black and white diamonds are inverted, and they're brown now instead of black. I was similarly disappointed, I was hoping for a brown thing with bright orange diamonds or something but… settle for a blue cape I guess.
"Two who wishes to be reunited, but could never be together.."
Why do I have a feeling that it is Hiyori and Momo? And that considering their current location, this foreshadows an important moment when the fight takes to Wano's capital.
The colour spread is gorgeous and full of fun, playful details in that classic One Piece way, but I think Jinbei looks a little too big up the back there. Could he not fit through the doors of the train? Also, it's a little disappointing to see he's still using his Marineford-era getup as his default outfit. It would have been nice to see something different now that the timeskip has come and gone. I'd hoped it would at least be a different colour, given the change in how it's inked, but that's what you get for making colour assumptions based on Oda's inking.
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I believe it's one of those generic color spreads Oda has lying around just in case he "needs" one. At least it wouldn't surprise me if this picture is several years old and he just added Jinbe to it as a finishing touch. And with that in mind, the only spot where he could have been added is on top of the train in the far back. There is not even enough free space to let him swim alongside the train (ignoring the racist aspects of that for argument's sake).
As for his colors, I actually liked Jinbe's initial kimono a lot, so that's not an issue for me if this is supposed to be his "base".
Nothing beats the hemp plant pattern though!
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I'm curious if Robin will get purple or violet as her color. She has been switching between those colors for years.
Everyone in the spread is wearing their immediate post timeskip outfit. Since Jinbe didn't get a Sabondy outfit, he gets the thing we saw closest to that.
It's in the new anime opening. The black and white diamonds are inverted, and they're brown now instead of black. I was similarly disappointed, I was hoping for a brown thing with bright orange diamonds or something but… settle for a blue cape I guess.
Everyone else's Return to Sabaody outfits were also their Fishman Island outfits, and Jinbei had a unique getup for that arc which could have been his new default (though I think the yellow Tottoland one looks better, personally). I know it's because he was introduced so close to the timeskip, but it is a bit of a shame Jinbe has to be the only Strawhat whose pre-and post-timeskip appearances are almost totally indistinguishable.
And the new anime opening isn't accurate to Luffy and Law's colours for their Onigashima outfits, so I'm not inclined to take it as the final word on Jinbei.
I believe it's one of those generic color spreads Oda has lying around just in case he "needs" one. At least it wouldn't surprise me if this picture is several years old and he just added Jinbe to it as a finishing touch. And with that in mind, the only spot where he could have been added is on top of the train in the far back. There is not even enough free space to let him swim alongside the train (ignoring the racist aspects of that for argument's sake).
As for his colors, I actually liked Jinbe's initial kimono a lot, so that's not an issue for me if this is supposed to be his "base".
Nothing beats the hemp plant pattern though!
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Interesting theory that Jinbei was edited in after the fact. Given how out of place and out of proportion he is, it's actually not that hard to believe. Obviously the Kumamoto bear would have been added as well, but I wonder if the photo of Kumamoto Castle at the back of the carriage was also added, replacing something more generic.
You know, I only just noticed that the hemp kimono changed from white/grey to green between volumes 64 and 66. Interesting to have such a big inconsistency for such a major character.
The translation of Raizo's attack is interesting. Apparently, in the original Japanese, the wording of it had a similar structure to a devil fruit name (Scroll Scroll or Roll Roll), which would go a long way to explain all the weird shit he can just kinda do. But Stephen has translated it as "Scrolling Jutsu." I wonder if this is one of those things where he got an editorial behind-the-scenes tip that no, Oda wasn't trying to name a devil fruit there.
If I had to guess, I think Stephen is being cautious because he doesn't want to accidentally call it a Devil Fruit power if it turns out it isn't. Raizou's ninja abilities (shadow clones and such) so far have a slight lean toward the magical and it's not clear if other ninjas can do the same thing.
Personally, I think the scroll technique is the result of a Devil Fruit, and I feel like this time I disagree with how it's translated, but I'll wait for the podcast for more insight. It's very minor in the grand scheme of things.
So if four scabbards is one Oden, how many Odens in a cavendish?
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Is Kawamatsu down? We haven’t seen him after Kaido hit him. As most people, I assume Kaido is going to defeat them in the end, but I think that it is going to take him time and effort. They will fall one by one, probably because together they can hurt him, but they can’t tank his attacks, and as Kaido succeeds connecting some punches, they will start falling, one after one. After the level tilts a little towards Kaido’s side, they won’t be able to keep him at bay.
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If I had to guess, I think Stephen is being cautious because he doesn't want to accidentally call it a Devil Fruit power if it turns out it isn't. Raizou's ninja abilities (shadow clones and such) so far have a slight lean toward the magical and it's not clear if other ninjas can do the same thing.
Personally, I think the scroll technique is the result of a Devil Fruit, and I feel like this time I disagree with how it's translated, but I'll wait for the podcast for more insight. It's very minor in the grand scheme of things.
When I initially saw the name of the attack in the scans and saw everyone talking about it, the first thing that came to my mind was that his scroll is the one that ate the devil fruit not him. Pretty curious to see where this goes, if anywhere.