Elbaf feels like the place where BM becomes whole and finds her peace
It would be like a perfect circle. It's where she first found something like happiness and belonging. I think I shall read her flashback again.
Elbaf feels like the place where BM becomes whole and finds her peace
It would be like a perfect circle. It's where she first found something like happiness and belonging. I think I shall read her flashback again.
She's a Yonko as well. While Kaido is the main antagonist, there's no "completely overshadowing" the defeat of another Yonko.
Yes their is. And that's exactly what would happen if she were to be defeated in Wano as Kaido has an over 20 year history with the place.
Regardless, that's not a good enough reason for it to argue that it'd be more appropriate to happen elsewhere.
I completely disagree. Her defeat should not be second fiddle to anyone.
but the implication that Elbaf or any other location makes more sense for Big Mom to be defeated than Wano doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
Completely disagree for the reason I stated above.
Since we've already visited Totland, Wano, where we're in an all-out war, is easily the next best option.
Completely disagree again. Elbaf or even Fish-Man Island would be a better option.
Why doesn't it hold up under scrutiny? What makes this not seem likely to you? (besides the fact that a visit to elbaf isn't certain)
With Elbaf, people just picture a scene of her getting her memories back there. That's cool and all, but as far as taking down Big Mom physically goes, nothing makes more sense than Wano, the actual war arc:
http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=42229&p=4017323&viewfull=1#post4017323
All the narrative setup is there for Big Mom to be defeated in Wano. Looking at all of that, it doesn't make any sense to throw all of that away just to have Big Mom as an antagonist for the 3rd time in a row, when Oda is perfectly capable and willing to have her be defeated in Wano. You want to say she'll find peace, resolve her storyline, or not be an antagonist if she were to appear in Elbaf, that's fine. But I wholeheartedly disagree with the notion that Luffy will have to defeat her once and for all in Elbaf or any other location people come up with.
Oh yeah, it was 2017, but ended up being July 2018, so I def remembered it right. Then he adds a paragraph after to comfort everybody with "lurking legend and war". It adds up.
Yeah, Oda is definitely going for the 'even harder' as usual. 'You thought fighting a Yonko would be crazy? Let's do 2!'
We've been building up to this one epic conflict since the end of Fishman Island. That's why so many plot threads have been seemingly left hanging for later during post-timeskip. Because Oda wants to do everything at once, in one single glorious bang like there has never been before.
So one way or the other, Big Mom and Kaido are going down together. And by together I mean in the same volume, and maybe even the same chapter. I wouldn't be surprised if the end fight of the arc is something akin to the fight against Moriah and Oars, with Big Mom playing the role of Oars (since her powers seem to be made for a raid boss fight and in fact that's what we've been seeing from all her action scenes) and Kaido being Moriah (so Luffy can prove himself individually).
I like the term raid boss. Reminds me of my Destiny days. It was cool to watch the Scabbards hang on to Kaido as he flew to the roof. Similar to Riven in Last Wish. Might assemble the clan members for a raid next Friday.
Unless Kid is tired out, I don't see him sitting back on this for Luffy can take his vengeance away. He's at least gonna make a move like Vegeta did to Cell in those final moments. Just imagine Luffy launching the final blow and Kid sends that massive sword at him. I don't even think all parties that will be involved have arrived yet. Cipher Pol just lost their connection to Wano in Orochi. Or did they?
@Joy:
Ok let's put it down again.
Luffy's alliance beating Kaido and Big Mom alliance doesn't make a shred of a sense. None.
Big Mom will not be defeated here. She’s going to run for it. Kaido said it. Pirate alliance are fickle. Once they see that he’s losing, Big Mom will leave lol.
Big Mom will not be defeated here. She’s going to run for it. Kaido said it. Pirate alliance are fickle. Once they see that he’s losing, Big Mom will leave lol.
I think thats quite likely.
Honestly I expect her to turn into Olin again because some heavy attack hitting her or part of Onigashima castle collapsing onto her because of Kaido/ someone else fight.
Then she could stay that way till Kaido falling..
Big Mom will always be an anomaly for Oda's narrative. She did have a dedicated arc and still she's not defeated or even importance declassified. She's not like Mihawk who is undefeated but yet didn't had an arc, neither like Crocodile who had his ass beaten in his arc and now is less plot-relevant.
Due this she always seems out of time to be dealt with. Being defeated in Wano is more a matter of this than an effective character closure that seems to be more linked to Elbaf than any else.
I completely disagree. Her defeat should not be second fiddle to anyone.
Completely disagree again. Elbaf or even Fish-Man Island would be a better option.
why do you see it as "second". They can be defeated both in equal term. On the countrary being defeated in the same arc is more equal than one being defeated in Wano and the other later
Also Big Mum being the antagonist 3 arcs in a row is not organic at all, so Elbaf is not a better option
Luffy beating either of them in a single fair fight is possible and Oda has done a good job showing us how, through training and revealing a weakness of Big Mom. Previous fights are precisely comparable and contrastable; that's the fun. We don't compare things because they are the same, but because they're different and it's worthwhile to explore those differences.
What can we say about Kaido with 100 percent sureness? His skin is incredibly tough and he can take immense damage, but he's not impervious to pain (getting a headache from his fall) or being cut. He is also capable of being damaged through Ryou, the same Haki ability that Luffy has been fighting with. What can we intuit, but not say with 100 percent sureness? That he's an extremely fast attacker and that Thunder Bagua is more than enough to take out most high level fighters with one hit. If Luffy is on the same level as Oden (strength-wise) and isn't distracted at a key moment, I can see him overcoming Kaido if he can avoid his most powerful attacks (which seems probable with his highly advanced observation haki and experience already fighting him) and keep laying into him. I don't know if he can kill him, or he would, but I don't think the plot is leading to that.
As for Big Mom, I don't think this is where she'll get beat and we don't know whether Ryou would even have any effect on her. Oda has not developed the plot yet to where I can imagine Luffy defeating her without something mentally devastating making her vulnerable, or her being really hungry for an extended period. If he was to fight and damage her next chapter, I think it would be a problem. On the other hand, I'm sure Oda knows precisely what will happen when she's taken down and has something in mind that will make sense. It could be betrayal, it could be something else, but as long as it makes sense I'm fine.
As for the rest of Kaido+Big Mom vs the Straw Hat-Samura-Mink alliance, I don't find it at all hard to believe that they can beat them.
You guys speak of Luffy's Haki power up but also forget that Kaido hasn't even bothered to use Haki, his hybrid form and awakening. Kaido didn't beat Luffy because he had some weird advantage. He beat him in one shot with pure shot. Also if Luffy gets blitzed then future sight doesn't help him that much. Kaido can still overpower him.
Also Oden is in the past. Kaido grew stronger.
I'm wondering how Sanjs going to get out of that one . It's been quite a while since we've seen a full fight with Sanji iirc.
Also curious to see who Zoro ultimately ends up fighting if Sanjis already fighting King.
We've seen Kaido taking alot but not dishing anything out. I'm thinking the scabbards didn't do a whole lot of damage and it was more of kaidos emotional trauma of remembering how Oden wounded him .
I'm guessing taking down Kaido is going to be some sort of team effort. It's kinda hard for me to Invision Luffy winning a 1 vs 1 against him when he very recently got punked by Kaidos Thunder Bagua. I'm thinking of a donflamingo like situation where someone else seriously wounds Kaido First.
I'm also curious when big mom is going to stop being memed and cause some serious destruction.
If big mom and Kaido ARE defeated on this island then does that mean Luffy automatically becomes one of the Yonkou? Who takes the other spot if both of them get defeated???
If big mom and Kaido ARE defeated on this island then does that mean Luffy automatically becomes one of the Yonkou? Who takes the other spot if both of them get defeated???
No one. The time for emperors are past.
They and the warlords have been made obsolete by the marine build up.
With Elbaf, people just picture a scene of her getting her memories back there. That's cool and all, but as far as taking down Big Mom physically goes, nothing makes more sense than Wano, the actual war arc:
- Kaido and Big Mom establish that they have a shared history through Rocks
- Big Mom actually came to Wano
- Big Mom and Kaido form an alliance
- Said alliance in hindsight is clearly the "Greatest Enemy ever" Oda was referring to:
https://pm1.narvii.com/6694/001a1158d8bd2e235a1510e32e5abd90311e578b_hq.jpg
- We have confirmation that Wano is an arc about Luffy and co. fighting Kaido and Big Mom, if anyone still had any doubt:
http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=42229&p=4017323&viewfull=1#post4017323
- And Luffy has twice now (Ch. 977 and Ch. 987) plainly stated that he'll take down Big Mom along with everyone else that's an enemy in Wano. This is a stark contrast to his words in WCI, where he originally stated that he'd beat Kaido first. He now feels he's ready to ultimately defeat both of them by the end of this arc, as shown by him formally declaring that this is now an all-out war.
All the narrative setup is there for Big Mom to be defeated in Wano. Looking at all of that, it doesn't make any sense to throw all of that away just to have Big Mom as an antagonist for the 3rd time in a row, when Oda is perfectly capable and willing to have her be defeated in Wano. You want to say she'll find peace, resolve her storyline, or not be an antagonist if she were to appear in Elbaf, that's fine. But I wholeheartedly disagree with the notion that Luffy will have to defeat her once and for all in Elbaf or any other location people come up with.
You make a really good point about Kaido+Big Mom=Rocks being the greatest threat Oda was talking about. I don't buy that them as a challenge means both of them will go down, though.
Sorry to say, but the current "war" doesn't make Marineford look "cute" at all.
Needs at least another faction, like the Marines (Green Bull still needs his grand entrance as an Admiral) or Blackbeard.
Will Luffy actual have to fight Shanks eventually? Its odd bc shanks is a sword user and we know almost nothing about how he fights.
And wtf is up with Zoros eye? Has anyone even questioned him about it post timeskip ?
Sorry to say, but the current "war" doesn't make Marineford look "cute" at all.
Needs at least another faction, like the Marines (Green Bull still needs his grand entrance as an Admiral) or Blackbeard.
lol
Yes, I guess it'll escalate more, but I think there are also two other reasons for your opinion:
Now Luffy is strong, the main player of the current alliance against Kaido and Big Mom, so most of the characters around don't look as imposing as they would be in Marineford.
All the doublespreads since the beginning was genius too, once again making the event look enormous. Not to mention the serious and dramatic tone.
Wasn't there a new chapter announced for the next days by MangaPlus? Or is it an error?
Wasn't there a new chapter announced for the next days by MangaPlus? Or is it an error?
16 chars of error.
I mean at this very moment the enemy force seems pretty small compared to marineford. WB had 40 allied captains, 16 commanders and a huge ass fleet, and the marines had all the warlords, VAs, admirals and a never ending army of 100.000 rank and file marines. The enemy forces in Wano has 500 tiger crotches, a fraction of BM's crew who keep slipping down a waterfall, Kaidos like 20ish officers out of which like 5 are due for a backstabbing and a slight advantage in the number of grunts. All in all it is doesn't really seem to be on the same grand scale as Marinefords world war. But there is of course time for all of that to change
I personally think there's might be some marine presence on Wano eventually and if I had to guess who, i'd say either Sword members or the SSG.
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I mean at this very moment the enemy force seems pretty small compared to marineford. WB had 40 allied captains, 16 commanders and a huge ass fleet, and the marines had all the warlords, VAs, admirals and a never ending army of 100.000 rank and file marines. The enemy forces in Wano has 500 tiger crotches, a fraction of BM's crew who keep slipping down a waterfall, Kaidos like 20ish officers out of which like 5 are due for a backstabbing and a slight advantage in the number of grunts. All in all it is doesn't really seem to be on the same grand scale as Marinefords world war. But there is of course time for all of that to change
Yeah. Without Big Mom's entire crew it doesn't seem like the war is on the same scale as Marineford. Now if more Whitebeard captains and the Straw Hat Grand Fleet show up, it might have surpassed it.
I mean at this very moment the enemy force seems pretty small compared to marineford. WB had 40 allied captains, 16 commanders and a huge ass fleet, and the marines had all the warlords, VAs, admirals and a never ending army of 100.000 rank and file marines. The enemy forces in Wano has 500 tiger crotches, a fraction of BM's crew who keep slipping down a waterfall, Kaidos like 20ish officers out of which like 5 are due for a backstabbing and a slight advantage in the number of grunts. All in all it is doesn't really seem to be on the same grand scale as Marinefords world war. But there is of course time for all of that to change
One could make the argument that WB's forces looked really big in size, but weren't as strong as Luffy's allies in Wano. What we're missing is a doublepage with all the allied forces looking like an army for us to get the visual cue. And the same thing could be said about Kaido and Big Mom's force.
But you're right that it's difficult to make anything look more threatening than the World Government.
@Joy:
You guys speak of Luffy's Haki power up but also forget that Kaido hasn't even bothered to use Haki, his hybrid form and awakening. Kaido didn't beat Luffy because he had some weird advantage. He beat him in one shot with pure shot. Also if Luffy gets blitzed then future sight doesn't help him that much. Kaido can still overpower him.
Also Oden is in the past. Kaido grew stronger.
We don't know about Kaido's haki use or lack thereof, so I'm not talking about it. All we can talk about is what we've seen. Luffy was caught off guard by Kaido's speed and strength and got taken out in one hit. We don't know all the circumstances behind the technique that did it, or whether it utilized some form of Haki or not. Luffy very well could lose to Kaido a second time and need a third fight to do it (like with Crocodile), but there are more questions than answers about how this next one will play out. I'm much more in the mood to wait and see than to decide already that Luffy has no chance.
I really hope we don't get a two word sentence spoiler on monday, that was terrible last time.
Let's all agree that only wednesday spoilers are our lord and savior
No one. The time for emperors are past.
They and the warlords have been made obsolete by the marine build up.
I think that was only for the Warlords. The Marines and Warlords existed as a balance against the Emperors. Now the Marines and the SSG are that balance. The balance isn't needed if the Emperor's don't exist.
Nah, the Yonkou know they're next on the table, the Warlords were just the weakest and easiest link to get rid of (since they are lone vigilantes without a proper network).
I mean Kaido was pushed into an unthinkable alliance just because of this recent development. He knows what's coming his way.
I think that was only for the Warlords. The Marines and Warlords existed as a balance against the Emperors. Now the Marines and the SSG are that balance. The balance isn't needed if the Emperor's don't exist.
As i understood it there is no balance anymore. As Kaido alluded to in his speech the fact that they are disposing of and hunting down the warlords means that they no longer fear the emperors and feel confident that the secret weapon will work on them as well. Two emperor crews united might stand a chance however. That's my take on it at least, i would be suprised if any new emperors come into being after Kaido and BM get taken out
As i understood it there is no balance anymore. As Kaido alluded to in his speech the fact that they are disposing of and hunting down the warlords means that they no longer fear the emperors and feel confident that the secret weapon will work on them as well. Two emperor crews united might stand a chance however. That's my take on it at least, i would be suprised if any new emperors come into being after Kaido and BM get taken out
Unless there's a timeskip or leap, I think the Emperor's will become obsolete after Luffy (and maybe Teach) reach Raftel. I do agree that the marines are confident in this new weapon.
Can't wait for the super science squad introduction. The new mihawk themed pacifistas that send air slashes and shoot lasers out of their eyes.
The thing about wg is that they got like 6 guys that were on par with yonkous. Aokiji, akainu, garp, sengoku, kizaru, kong. And after losing some of them, they still pulled 2 more out of their hat, fujitora and greenbull, so now they got 7. That is what made wg look way above one yonkou crew.
Nah, the Yonkou know they're next on the table, the Warlords were just the weakest and easiest link to get rid of (since they are lone vigilantes without a proper network).
I mean Kaido was pushed into an unthinkable alliance just because of this recent development. He knows what's coming his way.
I assume that alliance happened after some rough sex and as a mixture of all of that + Kaido's desire to die in the greatest war ever.
why do you see it as "second". They can be defeated both in equal term. On the countrary being defeated in the same arc is more equal than one being defeated in Wano and the other later
Also Big Mum being the antagonist 3 arcs in a row is not organic at all, so Elbaf is not a better option
I see it as "second" because Kaido is the main antagonist who has an over 20 year history with Wano and the reason it is in it's current condition. Big Mom is just here to take revenge on Luffy. They cannot be defeated in equal terms. I personally doubt Big Mom will be defeated like Kaido but how ever she is ultimately dealt with, it should not be overshadowed by anyone's' defeat. Elbaf would indeed be the place for that as it was where her story started.
Sorry to say, but the current "war" doesn't make Marineford look "cute" at all.
Needs at least another faction, like the Marines (Green Bull still needs his grand entrance as an Admiral) or Blackbeard.
Reminder that Oda said the final war would do that, not Wano:
You make a really good point about Kaido+Big Mom=Rocks being the greatest threat Oda was talking about. I don't buy that them as a challenge means both of them will go down, though.
My point is not that Big Mom is guaranteed to go down (although it's increasingly likely), but that it makes the most narrative sense for her to be physically defeated in Wano as opposed to any other location.
The reason this "war" doesn't feel like MF has nothing to do with how strong Luffy is or the size of enemy's forces.
The reason this "war" doesn't feel like MF has nothing to do with how strong Luffy is or the size of enemy's forces.
Do feel free to tell us how this isn't a war.
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Do feel free to tell us how this isn't a war.
We are talking about a cartoon here dude. Although the objective in Marineford was simply to save Ace while here in Wano it's actually to defeat the Enemy.
We are talking about a cartoon here dude. Although the objective in Marineford was simply to save Ace while here in Wano it's actually to defeat the Enemy.
We are indeed talking about a "cartoon". Which references many real world events, such as war.
And exactly, that's why I find Wano much more intense. Whitebeard was sick in Marineford and wasn't an enemy of Luffy's. Here, Luffy theoretically has to have him and his forces defeat 2 healthy Whitebeards. And all of their armies. It's insane.
Basically if this was a video game, Marineford would be "Objective: Survive".
Wano's "Defeat 2 Raid Bosses and all of their elite commanders and adds".
When we've never defeated what I would consider a Raid Boss before, only Bosses.
We are indeed talking about a "cartoon". Which references many real world events, such as war.
And exactly, that's why I find Wano much more intense. Whitebeard was sick in Marineford and wasn't an enemy of Luffy's. Here, Luffy theoretically has to have him and his forces defeat 2 healthy Whitebeards. And all of their armies. It's insane.Basically if this was a video game, Marineford would be "Objective: Survive".
Wano's "Defeat 2 Raid Bosses and all of their elite commanders and adds".
When we've never defeated what I would consider a Raid Boss before, only Bosses.
Yeah I was just trying to say that the Marineford and Wano arc aren't really comparable but if we must compare them then we should at least wait for the Wano arc to conclude.
For example; Ace and Whitebeard died in Marineford. Will someone even die in Wano? I don't know.
Yeah I was just trying to say that the Marineford and Wano arc aren't really comparable but if we must compare them then we should at least wait for the Wano arc to conclude.
For example; Ace and Whitebeard died in Marineford. Will someone even die in Wano? I don't know.
Yeah, we are only at 1 dead this arc, not counting Kanjuro or Orochi who both are probably alive.
I think we'll get at least another death by the end of the arc.
People ignore this part and now if Wano doesn't match their MF Volume 2 fantasy, Oda is a hack
Well, either blame it on the format of the translation or maybe he shouldn't try to hype several things at once so people don't get the wrong idea?
https://pm1.narvii.com/6694/001a1158d8bd2e235a1510e32e5abd90311e578b_hq.jpg
"I'll introduce you to one of the legends which lurks in the One Piece World. The greatest enemy ever for the Straw Hats will hinder their way. Perhaps it will be something related to Whitebeard. Oops, it seems I'm being too talkative. Can you believe Marineford Summit War will look "cute" compared to "that"?"
Mind the context of the interview is "Wano is up next!" and not the endgame war. I know he made the "Marineford was nothing compared to what's yet to come" statement before, but you can't blame people if they expect this huge war to come now in a fight against two Yonkou, especially when Oda adds fuel to the fire and repeats the line to hype his readers.
Personally I'm not expecting much at this point. I'm actually expecting so little that even a completely called off war seems to be an option (like the conflict transitions smoothly into the endgame where the world-engulfing war happens).
Personally I'm not expecting much at this point. I'm actually expecting so little that even a completely called off war seems to be an option (like the conflict transitions smoothly into the endgame where the world-engulfing war happens).
How does one even get to this point?
How does one even get to this point?
A mix of keeping expectations low and Oda announcing that One Piece ends in 4-5 years. I don't want to jumpstart a discussion that already happens in several threads at once, so I won't reply in regard to this topic anymore (at least not in the chapter thread), but in my mind you can't have 2 massive wars happen back to back in the span of two or three hundred chapters.
A mix of keeping expectations low and Oda announcing that One Piece ends in 4-5 years. I don't want to jumpstart a discussion that already happens in several threads at once, so I won't reply in regards to this topic anymore (at least not in the chapter thread), but in my mind you can't have 2 massive wars happen back to back in the span of two or three hundred chapters.
I know you said you won't reply, all good.
The simple solution to me is simply: A war happens in Wano. That war then balloons into the final war over time.
So basically the fuse for the war has been lit as of chapter 985 in my opinion. That's when I consider the final saga to have started, even if it's unofficial. Finding One Piece, as per Edward Newgate, then explodes the final war into engulfing the whole world.
Well, either blame it on the format of the translation or maybe he shouldn't try to hype several things at once so people don't get the wrong idea?
https://pm1.narvii.com/6694/001a1158d8bd2e235a1510e32e5abd90311e578b_hq.jpg
"I'll introduce you to one of the legends which lurks in the One Piece World. The greatest enemy ever for the Straw Hats will hinder their way. Perhaps it will be something related to Whitebeard. Oops, it seems I'm being too talkative. Can you believe Marineford Summit War will look "cute" compared to "that"?"
Mind the context of the interview is "Wano is up next!" and not the endgame war. I know he made the "Marineford was nothing compared to what's yet to come" statement before, but you can't blame people if they expect this huge war to come now in a fight against two Yonkou, especially when Oda adds fuel to the fire and repeats the line to hype his readers.Personally I'm not expecting much at this point. I'm actually expecting so little that even a completely called off war seems to be an option (like the conflict transitions smoothly into the endgame where the world-engulfing war happens).
I get it, I just never took it as Wano being what he was referring to. It's like when BM said the 3 Eyed Tribe's ability was similar to Roger's ability. Then people took it as Puddin being capable of having VOAT one day because the wikia says so.
I have my own wager from the Zou days that if Wano isn't a top 5 arc, i'd drop the series. Surprisingly, WCI arc ended up entering my top 5. Wano is definitely top 10 so far, but so far not good enough. It's weird, I know.
I get it, I just never took it as Wano being what he was referring to. It's like when BM said the 3 Eyed Tribe's ability was similar to Roger's ability. Then people took it as Puddin being capable of having VOAT one day because the wikia says so.
I have my own wager from the Zou days that if Wano isn't a top 5 arc, i'd drop the series. Surprisingly, WCI arc ended up entering my top 5. Wano is definitely top 10 so far, but so far not good enough. It's weird, I know.
I mean I personally would too, Wano is an extremely crucial climax to the New World, and hell it's the penultimate climax to One Piece most likely. Not ultimate, but close enough. Wano's ridiculous important, Oda knows it, the editors know it, the anime staff know it, the fans know it.
I'd be worried if Onigashima was sucking and we didn't get chapters like 985, 967, 968, 954, 955, etc. but since we have I am not at all worried about Oda's writing ability. Oh, and it's top 3 for me right now. To me what we're reading now makes arcs like FI and PH look like, in Kaido's words, "little pirate games".
You know, for a so-called war, the fodder have been rather quiet so far. Hyogoro, for example, seems to be just standing there.
Everybody has been just reacting to the big players doing things.
You know, for a so-called war, the fodder have been rather quiet so far. Hyogoro, for example, seems to be just standing there.
Everybody has been just reacting to the big players doing things.
Didn't the Beast Pirates realize it was time to stop drinking and actually fight only like 3 chapters ago?
Didn't the Beast Pirates realize it was time to stop drinking and actually fight only like 3 chapters ago?
Yes, and so far I'm not seeing any fighting except from King. And Big Mom.
It just doesn't feel chaotic at all.
Yes, and so far I'm not seeing any fighting except from King. And Big Mom.
It just doesn't feel chaotic at all.
Am I being trolled? I am fairly certain your comprehension of the series is way higher than this.
How does one even get to this point?
For Kaido and Big Mom, it is the actual point. Luffy and co. are a fly that need to be swatted before they can go to war with whoever is in the way of them finding One Piece. It's funny that Luffy is the one who will actually get to have the big war, but I kind of do hope that Kaido gets to go out like a bamf.
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Am I being trolled? I am fairly certain your comprehension of the series is way higher than this.
Also there's this:
I hope we get to see some more of this action soon.