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Daz

He was calmed down from his meltdown and assured that he wasn't a monster for feeling negative emotions about his life, he was allowed to have them and express them.

@MDL:

But his PTSD was NOT cured. When he was crying after turning back, that was still PTSD related. He was finally letting it out.

Then even when we had a short time jump to a few months ahead, he mentioned that he was STILL seeing a therapist.

Pretty much that ^^, plus the overarching problem not being related to a lack of affection from others -everyones love for Steven is pretty clear - but rather Steven being unwilling to reach out and communicate his needs and frustrations. Steven was unable to cope with the idea of needing help rather than providing it, and overall desperately needed to carve out a new role for himself now that the universe didn't literally rely on him. Hence why he leaves at the end - he's following his dads advice to seek inspiration for a new start, but now with the understanding that everyone 100% has his back, whatever happens. Its the healthy version of Gregs relationship with his terrible parents.

(Side note: The episode about Gregs history provoked an interesting discussion about parenting between me and my wife, but why anyone would point to it as some atrocity on Gregs part is totally lost on me. Yes, growing up in a stable environment is good for a kid, but Gregs parents were shits, and the only reason Steven didn't see that was because he was an angry teen in a terrible headspace. Seriously, they forced Greg to be a MATHLETE and a WRESTLER. GREG. Plus, you know, completely ghosting him)

maxterdexter

That and the fact that having a normal childhood for Steven would be impossible once his gem powers start to show up, I get the overarching theme of “a kid needs boundaries” but would those boundaries be Able to create the kind and nurturing soul who time and again managed to reach out into the loneliness of others and bring out the best of themselves? You know when he wasn’t constantly traumatized by the horrors of the universe.

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The story is framed in a way that is like “yes Greg you screwed me over and this is your fault, not of my mom or the galactic empire of my grandma, or just circumstances of being born in a time of turmoil, but yours because you didn’t take me to learn math and the doctor, even when is impossible for me to get physically sick, but I forgive you”

Ubiq

@Daz:

(Side note: The episode about Gregs history provoked an interesting discussion about parenting between me and my wife, but why anyone would point to it as some atrocity on Gregs part is totally lost on me. Yes, growing up in a stable environment is good for a kid, but Gregs parents were shits, and the only reason Steven didn't see that was because he was an angry teen in a terrible headspace. Seriously, they forced Greg to be a MATHLETE and a WRESTLER. GREG. Plus, you know, completely ghosting him)

Greg has a real tendency to severely understate things as well so it's entirely possible they were a lot worse to him than what he said in the episode. If nothing else, Andy didn't bother to chew Greg out for not talking to them and he was all about family so it would make sense if most of them actually sided with Greg.

RoboBlue

@MDL:

He was calmed down from his meltdown and assured that he wasn't a monster for feeling negative emotions about his life, he was allowed to have them and express them.
But his PTSD was NOT cured. When he was crying after turning back, that was still PTSD related. He was finally letting it out.

Then even when we had a short time jump to a few months ahead, he mentioned that he was STILL seeing a therapist.

@maxterdexter:

They didn’t hug away the PTSD, they hugged away his current self image problem, a regular person wouldn’t have turned into a sad kaiju when admiting to the bad stuff he did, and we’d have skipped to a good cry in the house.

Maybe I'm just being cynical then, not having seen anywhere near that kind of support growing up.

@Ubiq:

Greg has a real tendency to severely understate things as well so it's entirely possible they were a lot worse to him than what he said in the episode. If nothing else, Andy didn't bother to chew Greg out for not talking to them and he was all about family so it would make sense if most of them actually sided with Greg.

I just assumed that they were emotionally abusive in seemingly mundane ways that made it harder for Greg to explain.

Nobodyman

RLM just posted a Plinkett review of the new Picard show. So yeah, fair warning to any fans of the show, they're not going to be generous.

Yobiyopi

It's becoming increasingly clear how fans are offering better content than the showrunners. The "Behind the Scenes" talk outweights the scenes, and that too is far more interesting to witness with how they seemingly all act in unison when talking about their products, that you couldnt distinguish one from another. Because they keep ravaging old properties claiming to be aimed for both new and old fans, where the latter have standards and will be critical, while the former wont stick for the most part. Plinkett is one of many phenomenons caused by all this, where they give voice to the complaints many cant properly explain or are either shunned for sharing said thoughts or flat out not listened to.

This review had a better latter half where it makes more logical observations about the synths and romulans, while the first half i felt was kinda going nowhere with smaller nitpicks. The last 20 or so minutes however felt great for the positive message of what can still be achieved. Ultimately the old Trek felt and still feels unique, while the new feels homogenized with many other productions banging the same drum, indistinguishable between themselves like the same "Behind the Scenes" aforementioned.

HEATXZ

Here's the Winners of Linkara Atop The Fourth Wall Event Comics Month III plus the rest of the schedule

6/1 – DC Challenge! #1
6/8 – PATREON: Zyurangers Episodes 40-43
6/15 – Trouble #5
6/22 – PATREON: Dan Dare: Voyage to Venus
6/29 – Superman #358

Event Comics Month III: Crisis of the Secret House
7/6 – Zero Hour: Crisis in Time
7/13 – House of M
7/20 – Secret Empire
7/27 – Heroes in Crisis

8/3 – Dinosaur Rex #1
8/10 – Ninjutsu #1
8/17 – PATREON: Green Goblin #1-2, 4, 8, 12-13
8/24 – Titans/Teen Titans/Deathstroke: The Lazarus Contract
8/31 – Mr. T and the T-Force #5
9/7 – PSA Hell: The Amazing Spider-Man: Riot at Robotworld
9/14 – PATREON: Emergency! #1
9/21 – No AT4W This week
9/28 – US-1 #9

Don Quichotte De Flamingo

Don Quichotte De Flamingo

Crossover time

Robby

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Robby

SF Debris did a week long special on Jurassic Park. Its such a big important film that not only did he do his usual behind the scenes video, he did three of them… and he reviews the film twice. A little overkill maybe but if you've got time to put it on as background noise its a lotta stuff.

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Robby

Wow. Such meme.

maxterdexter

Is that going to be a video on how the dogs are super inbreed, and every day of their lives is agonizing pain?

Don Quichotte De Flamingo

Robby

SF Debris handles The Lost World. Man, for all the love and respect and in depth looks he took at Jurassic Park… he haaaaaaated this one. I've not seen him do an angry rant video like this in years.

To add insult to injury youtube is fighting him and he's spent 52 hours trying to get it past the bots.

wolfwood

@Don:

I still remember that game fondly. Me and some friends used to rent in over a weekend and try to beat it. Probably doesn't hold up too well, but in my mind it's a classic

Robby

Daz

Some recommendations:

Film Crit Hulk, an essayist I really admire, has started doing youtube deep-dives into specific movies. If you're interested in the ins and outs of writing and storytelling I highly recommend them; So far its just the original Star Wars and Into The SpiderVerse though

Dan Olsen of folding ideas also recently did an excellent full-length documentary on flat-earthers, Qanon, and conspiracy theories in general

As mentioned in the Naruto thread, Super Eyepatch Wolf has some neat manga retrospectives (and an extensive rant on Shenmue III)

And Jenny Nicholson, who is hilarious yet very insightful as to storytelling in general, and I will recommend at every opportunity

(CONTENT WARNING if you choose to follow her: Jenny likes the Last Jedi, and disliked Solo, Rogue One, and especially Rise of Skywalker)

Count Mario

@Daz:

Some recommendations:

Film Crit Hulk

I had seen Film Crit Hulk's videos recommended to me recently on YouTube a couple times but refused the call to try them because of how long their runtime tends to be. I usually need to already be familiar with a YouTuber's content before being willing to donate that much of my time to their content. Especially since I tend to be wary of critical analyses videos an hour or more long that always end up being obnoxious nitpick vitriol sessions with little depth, research, consistency, or context awareness put in. Although their toxicity and ignorance is easy to spot because they'll have a crude title labeling a piece of media as the worst thing ever.

But seeing you of all people recommend their channel convinced me to try out his Spider-Verse writing breakdown video and later the ABCS of Cinematics breakdown video on my own. And hot diggity damn, those videos are the bee's knees. Totally worth the length to watch through because he has that many insightful thoughts and eloquence to deliver.

So thank you, Daz.

As mentioned in the Naruto thread, Super Eyepatch Wolf has some neat manga retrospectives (and an extensive rant on Shenmue III)

Speaking of Super Eyepatch Wolf, he released a video today that is a sequel to his previous video four years ago analyzing how Bleach fell apart. He apologizes and corrects himself for the faulty statistical analyses he used back then while diving deeper into both what he likes and dislikes about the series. I totally recommend the video to anyone who at least has a casual interest in Bleach even if they haven't read/watched it.

hWolf

You don't need to watch the original Fall of Bleach video to understand this one. But if anyone is curious about watching both videos anyways, the first one is delisted but can still be found through a link in the description of the 4 Years Later video.

And Jenny Nicholson, who is hilarious yet very insightful as to storytelling in general, and I will recommend at every opportunity

The more exposure for Jenny, the better.

I love how she makes fun of Sith Lord training like it's a ridiculously stupid high school clique pyramid scheme promising power but being literally all about stealing power from everyone else, including your apprentices. And how she also dug deeper into Ratatouille's "not everyone is a great artist" line in the context of applying auteur theory to Brad Bird's films to realize how it could have messed up eugenics implications and a practical misunderstanding of how artists become successful or not.

Robby

Film Crit Hulk is great. It's nice that he's making videos now since his essays are… long. And hard to read as a result, good as they are.

@Count:

also dug deeper into Ratatouille's "not everyone is a great artist" line in the context of applying auteur theory to Brad Bird's films to realize how it could have messed up eugenics implications and a practical misunderstanding of how artists become successful or not.

Yeah… as much as I love Ratatouille and Incredibles... after Tomorrowland and then Incredibles 2 its pretty clear he's got some sort of complex about letting the talented people stand out and not be shackled down by people that just can't appreciate them and that artists are the best people.

Heck, even Iron Giant has a bit of that.

Don Quichotte De Flamingo

Nobodyman

hbomberguy did a video on RWBY a few months back

Having only ever watched a few episodes of RWBY, I could tell pretty much right away that the show had story issues. And based on his review, I'm kind of glad I never got into it.

RoboBlue

@Nobodyman:

hbomberguy did a video on RWBY a few months back

Having only ever watched a few episodes of RWBY, I could tell pretty much right away that the show had story issues. And based on his review, I'm kind of glad I never got into it.

I never really understood what was going on in the story, it just felt like a poorly written Harry Potter fanfic with cool fights.

Robby

Pachylad

Moviebob's having a normal one

Robby

Oh yikes.

And crap, I like Moviebob.

Daz

I used to watch a lot of him, but I've had always had a weird feeling since seeing his "Magneto was right" video.

Robby

So… bob has locked his twitter except to approved followers.

And people are now posting old tweets of his. And they are, uhm...

holy shit.

Dude, I like your movie reviews and I've followed you for years but uh... I think I need to stop supporting you now. Like some of this bled into his videos, but it came across mostly as "trump voters are racist" which I can get and he obviously has some "I was picked on as a kid" issues but I get that and where that anger comes from. But some of the other stuff, uhm...

yikes.

Also, in hindsight makes anytime he's mentioned Lindsay in one of his videos super fucking creepy, because he ALWAYS framed it like they were acquaintances/peers/ friends and not... multiple times blocked stalker.

I wonder if this has any connection to the Escapist not renewing his contract. If he's been saying this kind of crap on Twitter all this time... yikes.

Don Quichotte De Flamingo

Robby

Linkara supercut of all his Frank Miller All Star Batman comics. It's weird seeing young early video and sound quality Linkara turn into modern Linkara over the course of the video.

Robby

And the relevant original Ratatouille video which I'm pretty sure I posted int he Pixar thread a few months back.

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HEATXZ

Here's Linkara Atop The Fourth Wall Schedule for the rest the year and some next year
11/30 – LATE NIGHT DOUBLE FEATURE PILOT
12/7 – Awesome Comics Holiday Special #1
12/14 – The Transformers (UK) #41
12/21 – Solo: A Star Wars Story Official Comic Adaptation
12/28 – Yet Another 15 Mistakes of AT4W
1/4 – Star Trek Book and Record Set: Dinosaur Planet
1/11 – DC Challenge! #2
1/18 – PATREON: The Mighty Heroes #1
1/25 – PATREON: Justice League 1×01-3: Secret Origins
2/1 – The Star Wars #6
2/8 – PATREON: The King of Braves GaoGaiGar Episodes 1-4
2/15 – Youngblood: Strikefile #2
2/22 – PATREON: Pokémon 15×01-02 – “Enter Elesa, Electrifying Gym Leader!” and “Dazzling the Nimbasa Gym”
3/1 – LATE NIGHT DOUBLE FEATURE (Assuming the pilot does well)
3/8 – PATREON: Stanley and his Monster #1-4
3/15 – Marvel Than Meets the Eye, Part 1: Transformers #1-40
3/22 – Marvel Than Meets the Eye, Part 2: Transformers #41-80
3/29 – Marvel Than Meets the Eye, Part 3: Transformers Generation 2 & Regeneration One
http://atopthefourthwall.com/state-of-the-wall-11-24-20/#more-6963

Robby

RoboBlue

Ashens and The Polybius Heist is out.

It's funny but not as good as the first movie.

marcleo

I would love to meet any of them

HEATXZ

Linkara has a new Atop The Fourth Wall Supercut of his review of The Marville Comics

Don Quichotte De Flamingo

Mr. Hide

So I just discovered Fact Fiend and I'm hooked.

right here is why Karl is a legend.

Robby

Welcome to the club! I've been touting the awesome of Fact Fiend for almost two years now!

@Robby:

I just discovered this channel last night, Fact Fiend, and ended up marathoning through like, 30 of his videos in one sitting. He sort of rambles on a topic and it varies, from Jem being a plantinum selling band that never had an album to Punch Out to Daleks flying in Doctor Who to Mr. Rogers being too nice to interview to unfortunate pokemon birth marks,,, but this one really got me.

It… doesn't stay on the title topic very long before going into something crazy.

And also the MR. Rogers one just cause.

Ubiq

Robby

Conekiller

That list is irrelevant without that Paofu "Coffee for your Head" abortion not being on it.

Robby

I actually saw Cats in theaters for the lulz to see the horror show.

How could I know it was going to be the last movie I saw in theaters for probably two years? (And the only one before that was Avengers, so… close to three years.)

Mr. Hide

Robby

Robby

Robby

Oh nice! My favorite web reviewer covers one of my favorite movies.

This wasn't even on the schedule!

Nobodyman

Just giving a shout out to this damn fool reviewer who reviewed and ranked every single Simpsons episode aired thus far. It's six hours long, so yeah, if you want something to watch over the next few days or just have it as background noise.

Spoiler alert, modern Simpsons still sucks.

Nobodyman

I recently discovered the channel Defunctland, which offers great documentary-style insight into old attractions and rides, as well as TV shows. I'm currently working through a series of videos that explore Jim Henson's career and it's well worth the watch.

EDIT: Just finished all the Jim Henson videos and, oh man. Fair warning on the last video, you're gonna cry.

Mr. Hide

@Nobodyman:

I recently discovered the channel Defunctland, which offers great documentary-style insight into old attractions and rides, as well as TV shows. I'm currently working through a series of videos that explore Jim Henson's career and it's well worth the watch.