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Do we have any confirmation Brad left? People are acting like he did but all we have still is Larry's speculation I thought?
We have Larry's speculation and the fact that Brad has removed all mentions of Channel Awesome from his Twitter account. So yeah, something's up, but we're still not sure exactly what.
And apparently, according to Malcolm and Tamara, Doug and co. are preparing a video in response to all this.
Based on their behavior so far, that seems like the worst thing they could possibly do
if doug and rob want any chance of having to recover from this they should retire the nostalgia critic character (forever this time).with that, they can fire mike and start a new channel (or not depending on the contract they had with mike).
nc's quality have already declined alot, and doug seems more interested in making it a sketch comedy than a proper movie review. it's about time they try something new.
Do you think the sketch comedy stuff was Doug's way of expressing his boredom with the NC thing?
Trying to spice it up for himself more than anybody else?
Wasn´t following CA for years now, but they at least provided some last drama.
So fitting for an "internet company", even throwing in sexual offends and misquoting whenever possible.
Who would have thought that the social awkward guys who got famous weren´t the nice sugar pooping group they wanted us to believe they are 
if doug and rob want any chance of having to recover from this they should retire the nostalgia critic character (forever this time).with that, they can fire mike and start a new channel (or not depending on the contract they had with mike).
nc's quality have already declined alot, and doug seems more interested in making it a sketch comedy than a proper movie review. it's about time they try something new.
He's done that once, and it wasn't pretty.
Current NC is basically Demo Reel anyway. It just moved into it more gradually than the sudden sharp switch he did before. In particular the clipless episodes.
If he retired "Nostalgia Critic" right now, fired Mike, and then switched over to "Nostalgic Doug" he'd be fine. Though the entire back catalog may be an issue.
Can they fire Mike? Isn't Mike the boss of the company?
The thing is… if they would choose to ignore everything now and just keep on producing NC episodes and whatever is left ... how much of their viewership would they actually lose? Like 10%? Most people just don't know or care about the controversy.
If they move to a new channel with new characters how much of their following would they keep? Financially it would probably make sense if they just continue.
looking at the numbers, i'd say they lost a considerable amount of subscribers.
before this expose they had 1,051,896 subs, now they have 1,035,265 subs. aprox 16600 subs lost and are still losing.
Current NC is basically Demo Reel anyway. It just moved into it more gradually than the sudden sharp switch he did before. In particular the clipless episodes.
If he retired "Nostalgia Critic" right now, fired Mike, and then switched over to "Nostalgic Doug" he'd be fine. Though the entire back catalog may be an issue.
Can they fire Mike? Isn't Mike the boss of the company?
The thing is… if they would choose to ignore everything now and just keep on producing NC episodes and whatever is left ... how much of their viewership would they actually lose? Like 10%? Most people just don't know or care about the controversy.
If they move to a new channel with new characters how much of their following would they keep? Financially it would probably make sense if they just continue.
It may be worse than we know.
In order for Doug to transfer ownership of the Nostalgia Critic to Mike, he must've signed a contract. Given Mike's eagerness to force a non-compete agreement on Holly, I wouldn't be surprised if Doug was unable to upload videos for several years.
Erod (Blockbuster Buster) gives his take on his departure from the site
[And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon]
Is this just a race to see who can abandon ship first now?
looking at the numbers, i'd say they lost a considerable amount of subscribers.
before this expose they had 1,051,896 subs, now they have 1,035,265 subs. aprox 16600 subs lost and are still losing.
They had 1.086 Million a few days after the document leaked
Is this just a race to see who can abandon ship first now?
Except for Guru Larry, who's going to be last off the boat.
Complicating things since 2009.
Except for Guru Larry, who's going to be last off the boat.
This whole series of events has played out all according to Guru Larry's Plan
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So whose left? Everyone who was anyone is gone now. Really interested to see what the Walkers do, or if they even come back to this type of work now that their reputation is in the mud.
I wasn't distracted by Lucy being half naked.
You won this week Fairy Tail.
I most enjoyed Doug when I watched his Avatar vlogs.
Just sitting on a couch recording his genuine thoughts after every episode.
It was a compelling journey to watch, as the series became one of his favourite animated shows of all time.
His honest enthusiam and appreciation glowed through the screen as a human being.
If he DOES want to keep doing something,
I'd like to see him do the vlog thing full time with any popular shows he has yet to see.
So whose left? Everyone who was anyone is gone now. Really interested to see what the Walkers do, or if they even come back to this type of work now that their reputation is in the mud.
The thing is, even for the fact that Channel Awesome has completely collapsed and they've lost 40,000+ youtube subscribers…. Doug still has a million subs... people that either don't know or don't care about the controversy and so he'll probably be fine for now. If there aren't any more incidents it might be contained to just the site at this point.
Hell, PewdiePie endorsed Nazis or something and he's still got like 60 million subscribers.
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Just two weeks ago that could have been an April Fool's joke. And now…
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I hope his last video on the site is just him turning off the lights.
The thing is, even for the fact that Channel Awesome has completely collapsed and they've lost 40,000+ youtube subscribers…. Doug still has a million subs... people that either don't know or don't care about the controversy and so he'll probably be fine for now. If there aren't any more incidents it might be contained to just the site at this point.
Hell, PewdiePie endorsed Nazis or something and he's still got like 60 million subscribers.
Just two weeks ago that could have been an April Fool's joke. And now...
Its not just they lost subscribers its if they lost subscribers who watch their content. That and others who moght not have been subscribed but tuned in regularly. They'll probably lose a good deal of views overall, there may be a bit of people coming for the comments for a bit but after a while I expect viewership decline, nothing fatal but definitely there. Their last video 2 days ago alao didnt have a sponsor midway through. Woth how bad their spending was they might have to make some sacrifices, not that most people cared about the skits.
The thing is we don't really know if all the subscribers that unsubbed were active or burnt out ones who don't watch often. Outside of the dropped sponsorships they won't really feel this financially Adsense wises until the contrary blows over. Too many people giving the ad's views by going to the video and site to watch the response or to comment. People already didn't have a reason to go to their site besides the forums and now to see who's left yet.
The thing is, 30,000-40,000 subscribers isn't that big of a deal when you already have over a million. The Fine Bros lost a lot more subscribers and are doing fine today. It sucks, but all they have to do is stop responding, wait it out and in 4-6 months from now they will be back to where they are today. Granted, it seems like ego's are way more important to the group so they may just keep making poor responses.
Also, the rabid fanbase has started getting carried away and its starting to become less of crusaders of justice and more of vicious attackers as usual. For example, Malcolm and Tamara who are just paid employee's who can't publically talk shit about the company that has hired them, are getting an attack on Twitter for not being against CA.
Personally I'm not going to join in on those attacking Malcolm and Tamara, but they're not helping their cases either.
While I'm sure it wasn't their choice, both tweeted pretty much the same BS notice about the CA response. If that was it, it wouldn't be too bad. I don't know about Malcolm, but Tamara was tweeting at a bunch of people asking about specific grievances to refer to the CA response and insinuating that it proved some of the accusations to be untrue against CA.
But there is a clear difference between asking two of the only people left in this mess of a company -regardless if they can answer or not- and doing things like harassing them.
Anyone being even the slightest bit unpleasant to Tamara should be stuffed in a sack and thrown in the river. That lady is beyond adorable. Imagine those two ending up in the sight of obsessed internet dudes who feel that they have a right to prod and poke and just force answers from them. Just goes to show that even perfectly legitimate grievances eventually just morph into borderline abusive jackassery once the internet floodgates are opened.
Folks, don't attack Tamara. That's just… wrong.
Honestly, why would you want to attack people who weren't directly involved, but just employed by the site?
I mean, guys, you won. The reputation is in the dirt, and Channel Awesome is pretty much destroyed. The folks who were good people/creators will go live on Patreon or do something else. You won.
Be honorable in your victory, don't try to get blood from a stone.
I've got nothing against Malcolm and Tamara, even if I dislike Modern NC's skits. Sad to see them get flak too.
Ditto, they're just co-workers and have nothing to do with this conflict. No point in knocking them for just wanting to do what they love regardless of what transpired.
Personally I'm not going to join in on those attacking Malcolm and Tamara, but they're not helping their cases either.
While I'm sure it wasn't their choice, both tweeted pretty much the same BS notice about the CA response. If that was it, it wouldn't be too bad. I don't know about Malcolm, but Tamara was tweeting at a bunch of people asking about specific grievances to refer to the CA response and insinuating that it proved some of the accusations to be untrue against CA.
But there is a clear difference between asking two of the only people left in this mess of a company -regardless if they can answer or not- and doing things like harassing them.
This is going to sound a little paranoid, but do we know if their social media accounts actually belong to them?
If Doug's Facebook account is just a sockpuppet for Mike Michaud, there could be a bunch.
This is going to sound a little paranoid, but do we know if their social media accounts actually belong to them?
If Doug's Facebook account is just a sockpuppet for Mike Michaud, there could be a bunch.
They probably are the only ones with access to the accounts.
But I'd say it's very likely that Michaud sets strict guidelines as to what they can and can't post in regards to CA, and especially this incident. I'd say it's even more likely that he specifically told them what to tweet about the whole incident.
But the fact that Tamara just kept responding to people with CA's "breakdown" of the document just rubs me the wrong way. But that's why I won't personally engage in really reacting to any of the CA staff on social media. It's hard to determine what is genuine, what is under employment guidelines as far as users posts, and what is just a personal opinion.
Ditto, they're just co-workers and have nothing to do with this conflict. No point in knocking them for just wanting to do what they love regardless of what transpired.
That's part of what really bugs me about this whole situation too. In regards to Malcolm and Tamara, they really are the most public, but low ranking employees of CA as of now. They're the ones who are having their names attached to this dumpster fire. Plenty of the contributors are going to be absolutely fine because they have gathered a fanbase directly for their content. But with these two, there's going to be this direct attachment to CA that is no doubt going to hurt them -at least a little bit- for the foreseeable future.
I really am curious where it goes from here. Does CA just disband as a site and remain as a company controlling the NC youtube? Do they just pivot to a Youtuber centered base? I wouldn't be surprised if they just use the buzz from this to try and get some quick views by posting about the drama if they do end up ditching the idea of a community based site. At the end of the day for them I'm sure it's coming down to how they can keep making the same amount of ad revenue as they did when many contributors were on the site.
These parody images/videos are the best thing to come out of this entire controversy.
I really am curious where it goes from here. Does CA just disband as a site and remain as a company controlling the NC youtube? Do they just pivot to a Youtuber centered base? I wouldn't be surprised if they just use the buzz from this to try and get some quick views by posting about the drama if they do end up ditching the idea of a community based site. At the end of the day for them I'm sure it's coming down to how they can keep making the same amount of ad revenue as they did when many contributors were on the site.
Youtube ad revenue probably can't sustain the company as it exists now. They could go to Patreon (something Mike Michaud is staunchly against) or maybe find a corporation to buy them out?
If they can't find other revenue, they need to fire a bunch of people and pair down the company, something no one in the Channel Awesome administration appears to be on board with or even capable of doing.
If _that_ fails, the lawsuits will probably start to fly.
Edit: MarzGurl made a video about what happened with JewWario:
Erod (Blockbuster Buster) gives his take on his departure from the site
…Oh E. I'm so sorry. Despite my earlier comments, I could always tell the dude was trying and indeed he always gave it his all. I honestly hope you keep going dude.
Doug might be jumping ship from Channel Awesome.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChannelAwesome/comments/8clbe7/its_worth_noting_that_a_week_ago_this_said/
I'm not sure how that works, but okay.
GuruLarry is the new Nostalgia Critic.
Can someone explain to me this Gurularry thing?
I wasn't distracted by Lucy being half naked.
You won this week Fairy Tail.
Can someone explain to me this Gurularry thing?
From what I know, he was pretty much only still on the site for the fact that they hadn't payed much attention to him, and he didn't care. He was joking around that this was pretty much a hunger games for him and…..well he's the champion now.
The joke is that Larry has been on CA for YEARS and nobody ever seems to notice. He never got invited to any of the anniversary things or conventions, never got asked to do crossovers or cameos he was just… there. Most of his followers come from Youtube and other Social Media platforms, he really doesn't need CA and hasn't for a while.
He just finds it absolutely hysterical apparently that someone the rest of the site ignored for years might end up being the last man standing, so he's staying in until Brad officially quits so he can have the "honor" of being so.
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Well this is fascinating but this does not really surprise me, there has been issues with CA long before March 2018 as many already knew. I observed people complaining about the declining quality in the Nostalgia Critic and CA since after Noah and Linsday left. I even notice how they created Awesome Comics that never came back and how they created other shorts that appears to fail and how Demo Reel's failure caused the Nostalgia Critic to return.
I do hear rumors of bad managing issues packed with bad decisions for quite a while. However the only reason why I follow Channel Awsome was because of the Nostalgia Critic, Angry Joe and sometimes Linkara or the Cinema Snob and some other channels but other channels are rarely explored on. I already subscribe many former Channel Awesome people and am planning on unsubscribing Channel Awesome do to this horrid behavior they had.
I would love to see Doug, Wade, Heather, Jim, Malcom, Walter, Tamara, Rob and Barney to join the others to create their own channel and leave CA, I would love to see Brad quit as well. It's also sad because I enjoyed watching some CA every week, now that is about to change unless CA post an apology and reform itself with Mike leaving the company. I do not condone CA's behavior, CA can either redeem itself or just shut down.
I enjoy Larry's Fact Hunt videos quite a bit, and he's got a very jovial way of speaking.
Like the Avatar? / Like the Miis?
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His latest Tweet:
@LarryBundyJr "Doug Left? Have I won the Quell too???10:04 PM - 16 Apr 2018
It would be awesome if Doug did left but sad that we probably won't get a new episode this week. Will Doug start his own channel?
Okay, that GuruLarry backstory is absolutely hysterical! I hope Doug does leave and takes his team with him. He still has tons of potential, and hopefully the awareness and humility to apologize for the role he played in the misery that plagued the CA producers.
Also: I just read the first post of his thread. Talk about nostalgia! lol
Okay, that GuruLarry backstory is absolutely hysterical! I hope Doug does leave and takes his team with him. He still has tons of potential, and hopefully the awareness and humility to apologize for the role he played in the misery that plagued the CA producers.
Also: I just read the first post of his thread. Talk about nostalgia! lol
If there's any thing we learned about doug through the history it's that he really doesn't have a lot of potential. As an actor, director and anything outside of nostalgia critic persona he has been shown to be out of his depth.
He had a video where he talked about how to do reviews and spoke closer to the camera mic to "reduce echoing" the exact opposite of what you'd want to do, and he's had issues color balancing which is why his white wall looks blue. There's other issues with him not understanding something but not really making any efforts to better himself at it. He tries to have his cake and eat it too by being professional enough to be legitimate but amateur enough to brush off most of the criticism about his production quality. The demo reel was a decent concept but leaned way too much on meta humor and there were other issues.
He can do what he's good at and has a basic understanding of movies he is familiar with but his style is more or less a non-dynamic one. and if you like that it's fine. I think im in the minority where I can still find his older reviews pretty funny despite the basic style of the premise. But if there's anyone he should od besides come clean and cut his ties with Mike Michaud it's that he should stick to what he's good at an more gradually implement new things in as he builds a comfort level with them
Diamanda Hagan chimes in on her experiences with channel awesome.
Yikes. I was under the impression she was basically left alone to do whatever and never invited to the events or anything, but yikes.
I can't believe that I sat through all of that, it was awful.
The joke is that Larry has been on CA for YEARS and nobody ever seems to notice. He never got invited to any of the anniversary things or conventions, never got asked to do crossovers or cameos he was just… there. Most of his followers come from Youtube and other Social Media platforms, he really doesn't need CA and hasn't for a while.
He just finds it absolutely hysterical apparently that someone the rest of the site ignored for years might end up being the last man standing, so he's staying in until Brad officially quits so he can have the "honor" of being so.
The Mr. Pink of ChannelAwesome.
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