If Yamato didn't look so much like Nami she'd seem like the most likely Nakama candidate since Jinbe for me.
also
Yamato makes me wonder about the theories that Kaido is an Oni of some sort. If he is, is she a full or half oni? Also, if he is and she's full oni, does she have the Hito Hito No Mi: Model Nami?
Yamato already has different eyes and different hairstyle, so please shut about that. You're the only who pushed to this argument for some reason.
wow look at that poll!
The rise of Yamato is real.
main argument would be; we had one nami yes, but what about a second nami?
At least it's not Carrot. :ninja:
I feel like giving Shinobu the pity vote
She. :) And I agree. Opening up Wano is her dream, apparently. Her story will likely start and end here, which probably explains why she wasn't referenced until recently. She'll be Momo's first retainer as opposed to one of Oden's.
She may have only been directly referenced recently but I think she was one of the silhouettes from the Punk Hazard broadcast. There's a character with long hair and what look like loop earrings and they carry a sword. Granted she uses a club but maybe her design changed since then. Some people say the silhouette is Hawkins but we already knew his sword design from Sabaody Arc and it's not similar at all to the silhouettes sword.
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She may have only been directly referenced recently but I think she was one of the silhouettes from the Punk Hazard broadcast. There's a character with long hair and what look like loop earrings and they carry a sword. Granted she uses a club but maybe her design changed since then. Some people say the silhouette is Hawkins but we already knew his sword design from Sabaody Arc and it's not similar at all to the silhouettes sword.
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I have no doubt Yamato wasn't a recent thought from Oda, but, from a narrative perspective, it's unlikely for a main character to be introduced so late into an arc because of how much development it would need to be crunched into what's left of the arc.
(That female character looks like Smoothie to me).
I have no doubt Yamato wasn't a recent thought from Oda, but, from a narrative perspective, it's unlikely for a main character to be introduced so late into an arc because of how much development it would need to be crunched into what's left of the arc.
(That female character looks like Smoothie to me).
I mean I'd agree but one of Luffy's main antagonists last arc wasn't introduced until half way thru the arc and was very well received by the audiences so….
Also Wano will easily be the longest arc in the series. We probably have at least another 50 chapters. That's plenty of time.
As I've said in previous nakama discussions, One Piece's arc formula has changed post-TS. People keep expecting we're going to get some small adventure and a very personal look at the newkama in the very immediate and that's just not going to happen. Post-TS have a lot more characters and the stakes are higher and it's completely unreasonable to expect pre-TS focus on a potential new crew member in a post-TS arc.
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I also cast doubt that the silhouette is Smoothie when the panel above it has Pekoms and Tamago.
Tbh I think it could be Cavendish, back when he was still supposed to be Ace’s former rival.
I mean I'd agree but one of Luffy's main antagonists last arc wasn't introduced until half way thru the arc and was very well received by the audiences so….
Antagonist and protagonist are very different roles.
Also, as cool as Katakuri was, he was just a roadblock, not even a recurring or long-term villain.
Yamato already has different eyes and different hairstyle, so please shut about that. You're the only who pushed to this argument for some reason.
Don't tell me to shut up. I'm for sure not the only person who said that (literally right below your post is another) and I'm more than entitled to voicing that opinion. Calm your damn nerves.
Where's Pedro on the poll? Pekoms lost his spot too. :getlost:
Yamato is a good change of pace to the thread. I can't believe someone actually surpassed Carrot in votes! But I don't think she will join the crew but I wouldn't be mad if she joined after Oda elaborates her story and move set.
The current retainers were chosen by Oden. I believe Momo and Kiyori will need to choose new retainers for a new era when the Wano is free.
Toko, Tama, Shinobu, and Yamato are good start to Momo's all female retainers. 
Pedro is dead.
But Pekoms and Pudding are with Pound in the cover story. (Or so I dream…)
He's dead Jim…
Okay. Sure he could be dead. But as I stated before he could have "magically" escaped. Pedro's escaped many near death experiences. Just because he is willing to die doesn't mean he plans to die. Brook said it best to Big Mom.
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Pedro knew he had to put his life on the line for the Strawhats to survive. Why is it that Perospero has Candy Armor but Pedro had no type of protection or escape plan? That's the assumption I see mostly.
Random sidenote: Capone Bege should recruit Senor Pink. He would be a walking castle with a moat guard.
Pedro's most likely dead because of narrative, not because it would be impossible to survive an explosion in OP.
First, Pedro already arrived at WCI with a death flag on his head, not only because of his reduced lifespan, but especially because of his many speeches setting the tone for his sacrificial resolve a little later. And then finally he blew himself up while justifying the reasons for his death basically kickstarting the stakes for the Dawn plot-line.
That sacrifice was not a self-contained chapter as the Strawhats continued to mourn his death until the end of the arc. A few chapters after his sacrifice people were still crying at the Sunny. And then at the end of the arc we got a scene (with Carrot and Sanji) exclusively to accept his death and move on. He even got a grave in Wano.
You see, there's the persistent effort by Oda to remind us that Pedro is dead. How many times must Oda say he's dead until it becomes a fact? I know, technically never. But there's a point when it becomes good sense.
Pedro's most likely dead because of narrative, not because it would be impossible to survive an explosion in OP.
First, Pedro already arrived at WCI with a death flag on his head, not only because of his reduced lifespan, but especially because of his many speeches setting the tone for his sacrificial resolve a little later. And then finally he blew himself up while justifying the reasons for his death basically kickstarting the stakes for the Dawn plot-line.
That sacrifice was not a self-contained chapter as the Strawhats continued to mourn his death until the end of the arc. A few chapters after his sacrifice people were still crying at the Sunny. And then at the end of the arc we got a scene (with Carrot and Sanji) exclusively to accept his death and move on. He even got a grave in Wano.
You see, there's the persistent effort by Oda to remind us that Pedro is dead. How many times must Oda say he's dead until it becomes a fact? I know, technically never. But there's a point when it becomes good sense.
He also got a grave in Wano and mourning from Wanda and Shishilian. He's deader than anyone not named Ace or Whitebeard in the current timeline.
I still love the idea of Diez Drake being the last member, it would be like Oda was announcing the whole time that he was the last member with just his name 
also he def has a sad backstory
and even though he's meet some of the other straw hats it's kind of like the Franky and Usopp situation where Franky meet Usopp but didn't unmask until he met Luffy, similar because he never really looked at Nami or Robin in the hot baths, and only faced Sanji as Soba Mask (although I could be mistaken on this) So even though he's clashed with the crew he could still have that first initial interaction with Luffy
I don't think it will happen but it would be cool
EDIT: I still wonder where his story will go from here though, will he go back to being a marine, if so will he be a vice admiral? and if not what will he do? Continue to be a pirate? Infiltrate another Yonko crew?
Interestingly enough, Neko and The Guardians still don't know of Pedro's fate.
Pedro's most likely dead because of narrative, not because it would be impossible to survive an explosion in OP.
First, Pedro already arrived at WCI with a death flag on his head, not only because of his reduced lifespan, but especially because of his many speeches setting the tone for his sacrificial resolve a little later. And then finally he blew himself up while justifying the reasons for his death basically kickstarting the stakes for the Dawn plot-line.
That sacrifice was not a self-contained chapter as the Strawhats continued to mourn his death until the end of the arc. A few chapters after his sacrifice people were still crying at the Sunny. And then at the end of the arc we got a scene (with Carrot and Sanji) exclusively to accept his death and move on. He even got a grave in Wano.
You see, there's the persistent effort by Oda to remind us that Pedro is dead. How many times must Oda say he's dead until it becomes a fact? I know, technically never. But there's a point when it becomes good sense.
The narrative would have had Pell died. Pagaya. Pound. The Will of P will save Pedro and Pekoms! Maybe Pudding will help with their survival??? Germa 66 or …Caesar could assist with their science in healing both of them. No way they don't show back up in the story. Plus, I need to see Pedro's Moon Lion form in action!!!
Sidenote: Does Neko have a gun arm now? Barret Wallace?
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The narrative would have had Pell died. Pagaya. Pound. The Will of P will save Pedro and Pekoms!
If you read my post, your reply is already answered there.
To me it is simple; I'll consider that Pedro might actually be dead if the next we see Pekoms, Pedro is not with him.
Damn Pell. His survival kinda ruined death for the remainder of the series.
I hope there's at least a reason for that. Let's see if he has some role to play with Vivi ahead, or if he's comeback was just Oda being soft.
To me, Pedro is dead. But Pekoms is not. Since Pudding, Pekoms and Pound were all last seen in Cacao Island, I like to think that Pudding saved the other two and they escaped together, everyone ending joining Bege at least for a time. Every new chapter of the cover story I hope to see Pudding and Pekoms being revealed as Pound's saviors.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
If you read my post, your reply is already answered there.
I read your post. Nothing new that I haven't read before. The Dawn plot line is at a stand still. It's like it died with Pedro. :wassat: For whatever reason, Oda has not expanded on it since.
Pedro "died" in WCI but his grave, that doesn't have a body, is in Wano? That's odd. Makes me doubt the permanence of the death.
Death flags Are those the same flags people say about Jinbe till this day? I'll keep my dream alive thank you very much 
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I read your post. Nothing new that I haven't read before.
But you replied to me without addressing my argument, so what's the point? That's why I'm just sending you back to my original post.
I'm aware that Pell and Pagaya and others exist, so I'm making a distinction by pointing out Oda's persistent effort to remind us that Pedro is actually dead through many scenes after (and before) the death itself, which didn't happen with any other usual example. Pedro showing up alive would set a new standard for fake deaths in One Piece. It could happen, of course… but it's beyond past precedents at this point.
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He also passed the "Where's Waldo?" test in the spoiler thread, so there's that!
Honnestly I admire those peoole who answered you that the answer was obvious and they recognize Yamato immediately
As for me, I recognize her immediately only after I put her image next to the poll
Even with the Nami comparison, if you show them to me out of the blue I'm not sure I would not hesitate. It's only by comparing them with effort that you notice the bottom eyelashes and the thick eyebrows. It's completely different from a Perona or Ivankov which you recognize without thinking
Yamato's distinctive feature are on other part like the horns (which I'm curious if we will haveinformation about) or her hair
Just like I'm used telling Carrot supporters. In regards of Yamato's design and the naminess in particular;
Oda could've done better. Easily.
It would take very, VERY little to have made her face more distinct. Like one extra line or dot and then she wouldn't be Nami. Slightly thicker eyebrows or eyelashes you only really notice when comparing side by side.
Compared to Bonney, Perona, Ivanokov, or Madam Shirely? THEY are all super distinct and easy to tell apart from the other 30 pics there.
One extra line to show a little cheekbone, some face stripes, a beauty mark dot, an extra nose line, eyes a little more like Oden's, a slightly stronger chin?
All super tiny minor easy additions to make that would make her stand out more without taking away from the "beautiful lady" look. And that's without changing the face shape or anything.
The horns are pretty strong obviously, and the hair shifting in color and having weird squared off bits and a top tuft are good, but it really takes me off the nakama train that the little extra bit is missing. Like it's almost there, its a design Oda spent some time on, but it not one he spent a ton of time on.
Though her "history" with Oden was instantly apparent last chapter from the outfit and handcuffs, so that's obviously a factor. Looking like Oden is taking up a few traits.
All of those look like a fatigued Nami
Oda's standard female style has homogenized, plain and simple. It's not something I hold against him or Yamato, personally. I think Yamato has no chance for plenty of other reasons.
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Others. I am expecting Vivi to join officially.
All of those look like a fatigued Nami
Sure, but sticking with "oda is going to draw pretty women 98% the same" then it comes down to the little things, so I was trying to show the difference even a tiny change would make in making a more distinct character, if thats what Oda was going for. Obviously stronger cheekbones or jawline, or an entirely different nose would go a lot further.
Like, you're not going to mistake Robin for Nami. Post timeskip you might mistake Robin for Viola or Hancock, but you're not going to mistake her for Nami. And their differences are subtle, but they're there.
But when even the little things aren't really different or easily identifiable, well… that's why I'm just not feeling it on Yamato.
There's enough thought in the design its not a first pass sketch, but its not something he dwelled on for weeks or years either.
Personally, considering Oden and Kaidou both have very similar noses and eyes, and elongated heads, I'd go with giving her a sort of feminine version of that. Stronger cheekbones, the same slanted eyes both Oden and Kaidou have, slightly downturned nose, ever so slightly longer face (but still feminine) keep the stronger eyebrows.
And there you have a character that is never going to be confused with one of the other two. (Obviously finesse that a little more with a hand drawing that isn't literally copy pasting things in photoshop) If it was at all Oda's concern about having them be diverse and distinguishable long term, it would be super easy to have done so with even a little thought and effort.
Why I'm not on the Yamato train unless even more stuff piles up or she gets one of the missing haircolors.
"You can tell the difference between her and Nami if they're side by side" isn't the same as "I would never confuse that for Nami". (Obviously height and horns would also make a difference side by side.)
I'm curious if the possibility of Yamato getting a scar on their face later on would improve their chances of joining. Has there ever been precedence of Oda revealing an initial design and then changing it somewhat due to consequences at a later date (obvious things like aging notwithstanding), and if so, would that up someone's chances of joining?
Having a scar on the face is hardly unique anymore lol, what would really set her a part is if she loses some teeth permanently, then she is joining for sure. lol
I'm curious if the possibility of Yamato getting a scar on their face later on would improve their chances of joining. Has there ever been precedence of Oda revealing an initial design and then changing it somewhat due to consequences at a later date (obvious things like aging notwithstanding), and if so, would that up someone's chances of joining?
You mean aside from Zoro and Luffy?
Izo in this very chapter, Mr. 1, Kidd and Smoker all come to mind as characters that got scars later. Not going to count all timeskip changes cause… timeskip, but most of the supernovas got refined a bit. Plus you have transformative characters like Alvida and Coby that changed entirely within a few weeks or months in-story. Something more subtle like Moria starting with rounded teeth that then became pointy the first time we saw him in full...
Designs change up all the time though I can't think of any time Oda has given a female character an obvious facial scar.
Even Nami did things like get a tatoo and distinctive bracelets to help make her a bit more standout than she was originally, when simply "girl" was enough to get by originally.
So yes, Oda could always obviously change a design as he goes, by giving someone a more distinguishing feature, or just through the process of drawing them a lot so they naturally evolve like Usopp and Chopper did. Or regress in Robin's case where she got less unique after the timeskip.
Others. I am expecting Vivi to join officially.
I know we all know that Vivi will join someday :)Im on a train that read "the only addition and the last member of SHP is Queen Vivi"
Damn Pell. His survival kinda ruined death for the remainder of the series.
I hope there's at least a reason for that. Let's see if he has some role to play with Vivi ahead, or if he's comeback was just Oda being soft.
Personally, I have a suspicion that the early non-deaths of Pell and Pagaya were to give the reader a false sense of security - to deliberately play up the "no one dies in One Piece outside of a flashback" myth so that the on-screen deaths of Ace and Whitebeard hit harder.
Also, given Pell's presence in Mary Geoise at a point when we know for a fact that something went down involving the Alabastan delegation, I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he survived the Alabasta arc because Oda had a role for him to fulfill in whatever happened at the Reverie.
I think Yamato opens the door for Momo joining the crew.
Somebody has to inherit Odens Will and with the appearance of Yamato we have someone who can fulfill that role. This way Momo can join the crew to explore the world, and just like Oden, form his own view of the world and become his own person an not just Oden's son.
I have the same reservations about Momo joining as I do with Tama. Kids on the crew is always gonna be an iffy subject for me, especially moving into the New World. Like, would we really be passing up strong and motivated characters like Yamato to have Momo or Tama instead? Hard for me to think that would happen when we have so many candidates on the table.
Unless there's a Hyperbolic Time Chamber somewhere on Wano that can conveniently age and power up Momo, I seriously doubt he's an actual candidate for any crew, much less the Strawhats (same goes for Tama).
Also, he still has to stay on Wano and deal with aftermath and reconstruction being one of the sole heirs to the Kozuki line. Staying for 5 minutes after the battle is done and then yeeting off to Laugh Tale is probably a terrible move optically and strategically.
Considering Yamato is the current owner of Oden's Journal, she might be the only one who knows where the last fourth Red Poneglyph is. And no way in hell she is handing that away to anyone, that Journal is for her what Shank's Straw Hat is for Luffy.
Considering Yamato is the current owner of Oden's Journal, she might be the only one who knows where the last fourth Red Poneglyph is. And no way in hell she is handing that away to anyone, that Journal is for her what Shank's Straw Hat is for Luffy.
That sort of works either way, because Yamato's goal so far is to open the borders up. Considering Oden's already travelled to Laugh Tale, that might not be in Yamato's plan since it's not an 'inheritted will' to go there. This is a decision that Yamato will have to make, and we don't really know the character well enough to judge where the character goes from there.
Maybe by the end of the arc, Yamato just gives the information to the Strawhat crew without actually having to give them the journal, like a standard end-of-arc info dump that we usually get. Yamato could join the crew or not, either way.
I don't see Momo or Tama joining now tbh. Momo will stay in Wano, he can't fight, and even if he magically aged he'd still just be a samurai that uses katanas when we already have Zoro who does that. Tama just seems like this arcs' Conis or Camie or Marguerite.
Probably Carrot and Yamato join and that's it. Oda's been very inclusive of her when it comes to crew gags. Yamato will probably want to be to Luffy what Oden was to Whiteboard and Roger.
Considering Yamato is the current owner of Oden's Journal, she might be the only one who knows where the last fourth Red Poneglyph is. And no way in hell she is handing that away to anyone, that Journal is for her what Shank's Straw Hat is for Luffy.
The fourth poneglyph was on Fishman Island when Oden (and Inu and Neko) went there. Inu and Neko would have known its location if it was Roger who moved it, and the journal wouldn’t be updated if it wasn’t.
If just one person besides Jinbe joins this arc, that will already be unusual. Having three people join at once would be overkill. It's one more or none more, I'm sure of that.
And that one being Yamato? I don't think so. Like most everyone else from Wano, he/she is intrinsically linked to its fate. When the battle is done, everyone on Wano will want to support Momo and Hiyori as they take the reigns of leadership. I can easily see Yamato becoming the new deity supporting the shogun like Kaido does for Orochi, only this time beneficial for Wano rather than exploitative. That doesn't warrant going out to sea, at least not until everyone in Wano moves out for whatever final battle there is in the future.
Basically, Yamato and everyone else from Wano is tied down, whereas Carrot is free to do what she wishes.
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The fourth poneglyph was on Fishman Island when Oden (and Inu and Neko) went there. Inu and Neko would habe known its location if it was Roger who moved it, and the journal wouldn’t be updated if it wasn’t.
Inu and Neko have stated they have no idea where the last one has gone as in Chapter 818, so it could have dissapperaed sometime after Roger and co got the info and the Dukes know its no longer in Fishmen Island.
They wouldn't really know if Roger moved it as he could have done it after Laugh Tale which Inu and Neko were not there nor have they had much contact with the others since then, ultimately atm no one we know could know where it is besides maybe the Roger Pirates or Neptune maybe Oden and Roger learned who moved it after there return to Fishmen Island after Laugh Tale.
Either way the journal has very important knowledge stored inside so we can't dismiss off hand that it can't be helpful here maybe having clues
I hope Hiyori survives this
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