Arlong Park Forums

    • Register
    • Login
    • Search
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Users
    • Groups

    Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 8 - Onigashima)

    Manga
    226
    10191
    1466636
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • theackwardstation
      theackwardstation @wolfwood
      @wolfwood last edited by
      theackwardstation
      spiral
      theackwardstation
      spiral

      @wolfwood:

      Feels a tiny bit weird that Carrot is the only happy go luck mink when the rest of her species is going into an avenge our fallen bloodlust. Like i get that she is on the protect Momo patrol, but you'd like to see just a little spark in her eyes about paying back the attempted genocide of her race and by extension family

      I don't get it, honestly. The minks were not targeting Jack here in Onigashima. Instead, he introduced himself to them by going to the roof.

      But if we're not talking about Jack and targeting revenge against the Beast Pirates as a whole, then I should say that everybody in this raid is doing it, including Carrot. The only thing that changes is who fights who.

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • Jabra
        Jabra
        last edited by
        Jabra
        spiral
        Jabra
        spiral

        Nothing is overly noteworthy about Carrot, except one thing that is (almost) never brought up:

        She's a woman and she understands "cool things".

        I don't think she will join, but this is really an extraordinary combination no matter how you look at it. Sometimes I wonder if Carrot is the product of the fanmail from angry female readers who obviously do understand "cool things" - and thus dislike that stereotype a lot.

        Maybe she's even designed by one of Oda's daughters or so. It wouldn't surprise me.

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • Daz
          Daz
          Warlord Mod
          last edited by
          Daz
          spiral
          Daz
          Warlord Mod
          spiral

          I find it curious that in this recent spat of Carrot debate, no one is really talking about how she is presented in the actual current chapters. Because unlike for most of Wano, now she has moved from Present in a general sense, as in somewhere on the island to actually present at the current focus of action.
          Now, I’ve gone on record several times lamenting the decrease in crewmember spotlighting in this arc, but even compared to the actual crewmembers Carrots focus comes off as anemic. She’s been pretty much relegated to be an accessory to Nami, reacting or acting alongside her. Its not just that she shows up on 1 panel in the most recent chapter I’m not sure theres been a single case in this raid of a panel dedicated entirely to her, or even a panel where shes highlighted as the main focus? I pretty much mainly remember her being in the background as Nami has been in the foreground.
          Now again, its not like all the other Straw Hats have been getting exposure left and right, but even currently-off-screen Jinbe and Robin got some highlight panels that showed of them specifically in fun ways.
          For the last while I’ve not posted here because I felt arguing storytelling shortcomings of Carrot as a crewmember felt stupid considering how much I criticize Odas recent storytelling choices, but now we’ve seen not only a slight uptick in Straw hat exposure, but even that Oda can still do extended exposure for a new character, in the form of Yamato.
          Hence: From the POV of Carrot supposedly being the Next Big Thing you’d really think she’d be highlighted more, even on a level comparable to the existing crewmembers.

          theackwardstation T Shift 3 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • R
            RobinotX @King Cannon
            @King Cannon last edited by
            R
            spiral
            RobinotX
            spiral

            @King:

            To be fair, they did the same for Pedro, who was presented alongside Brook as the "remaining two Straw Hats".

            You can't have your Carrot cake and eat it too.

            Pedro would have joined as well but sadly died :ninja:. Give me my cake back.

            " I have created over a thousand blades. Unknown to death. Nor known to life. Have withstood pain to create many weapons. Yet, those hands will never hold anything. "

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • Robby
              Robby @RobinotX
              @RobinotX last edited by
              Robby
              spiral
              Robby
              spiral

              @RobinotX:

              In that sense there quite some boxes checked on her behalf already. Also when the Big Mom pirates found out that The Straw Hats invaded Whole Cake Island. They bumped Carrot in as a Straw Hats with a self drawn bounty.

              Strawhat allies are constantly lumped in with them. Like Paulie was counted among the Strawhats in Water 7 for instance. Because the characters, and Oda, aren't going to constantly say "The strawhats… and friends." They consistently get lumped together unless its multiple equal sized groups.

              Similarly, Oda doesn't seem to count Stronger s a Blackbeard pirate, but he doesn't go "The Blackbeard pirates... and their horse." Narrative shorthand.

              SeaOfHope 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • theackwardstation
                theackwardstation @Daz
                @Daz last edited by
                theackwardstation
                spiral
                theackwardstation
                spiral

                @Daz:

                I find it curious that in this recent spat of Carrot debate, no one is really talking about how she is presented in the actual current chapters. Because unlike for most of Wano, now she has moved from Present in a general sense, as in somewhere on the island to actually present at the current focus of action.
                Now, I’ve gone on record several times lamenting the decrease in crewmember spotlighting in this arc, but even compared to the actual crewmembers Carrots focus comes off as anemic. She’s been pretty much relegated to be an accessory to Nami, reacting or acting alongside her. Its not just that she shows up on 1 panel in the most recent chapter I’m not sure theres been a single case in this raid of a panel dedicated entirely to her, or even a panel where shes highlighted as the main focus? I pretty much mainly remember her being in the background as Nami has been in the foreground.
                Now again, its not like all the other Straw Hats have been getting exposure left and right, but even currently-off-screen Jinbe and Robin got some highlight panels that showed of them specifically in fun ways.
                For the last while I’ve not posted here because I felt arguing storytelling shortcomings of Carrot as a crewmember felt stupid considering how much I criticize Odas recent storytelling choices, but now we’ve seen not only a slight uptick in Straw hat exposure, but even that Oda can still do extended exposure for a new character, in the form of Yamato.
                Hence: From the POV of Carrot supposedly being the Next Big Thing you’d really think she’d be highlighted more, even on a level comparable to the existing crewmembers.

                Yes, her participation is very anemic until now, but that's the kind of thing that makes much more sense to claim once you have the full picture. Obviously, the plot is organized as such that characters wait in line for their time to stand out, and it all comes down to how Oda is planning to use each one of them.

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • SeaOfHope
                  SeaOfHope @Robby
                  @Robby last edited by
                  SeaOfHope
                  spiral
                  SeaOfHope
                  spiral

                  @Robby:

                  Strawhat allies are constantly lumped in with them. Like Paulie was counted among the Strawhats in Water 7 for instance. Because the characters, and Oda, aren't going to constantly say "The strawhats… and friends." They consistently get lumped together unless its multiple equal sized groups.

                  Similarly, Oda doesn't seem to count Stronger s a Blackbeard pirate, but he doesn't go "The Blackbeard pirates... and their horse." Narrative shorthand.

                  The difference being that once the situation on Enies Lobby was resolved, the Franky Family and the Water 7 Shipwrights fell off the WG's radar whereas Franky took the attention away from them. Thus, Franky got a bounty poster and the FF had to convince Luffy to take Franky away since he's now a wanted criminal. I don't know how much the WG even knew about Carrot's involvement let alone her presence, but her status as a "Straw Hat" still exists with the Big Mom Pirates. I don't think that magically disappeared when they left Whole Cake Island.

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • T
                    TheGarc @Daz
                    @Daz last edited by
                    T
                    spiral
                    TheGarc
                    spiral

                    @Daz:

                    I find it curious that in this recent spat of Carrot debate, no one is really talking about how she is presented in the actual current chapters. Because unlike for most of Wano, now she has moved from Present in a general sense, as in somewhere on the island to actually present at the current focus of action.
                    Now, I’ve gone on record several times lamenting the decrease in crewmember spotlighting in this arc, but even compared to the actual crewmembers Carrots focus comes off as anemic. She’s been pretty much relegated to be an accessory to Nami, reacting or acting alongside her. Its not just that she shows up on 1 panel in the most recent chapter I’m not sure theres been a single case in this raid of a panel dedicated entirely to her, or even a panel where shes highlighted as the main focus? I pretty much mainly remember her being in the background as Nami has been in the foreground.
                    Now again, its not like all the other Straw Hats have been getting exposure left and right, but even currently-off-screen Jinbe and Robin got some highlight panels that showed of them specifically in fun ways.
                    For the last while I’ve not posted here because I felt arguing storytelling shortcomings of Carrot as a crewmember felt stupid considering how much I criticize Odas recent storytelling choices, but now we’ve seen not only a slight uptick in Straw hat exposure, but even that Oda can still do extended exposure for a new character, in the form of Yamato.
                    Hence: From the POV of Carrot supposedly being the Next Big Thing you’d really think she’d be highlighted more, even on a level comparable to the existing crewmembers.

                    And yet Oda continues to draw her. Carrot has no reason to be where she is. Oda could have put her with the other Minks. He could have drawn Namis reactions alone. Carrot and Nami could have split up. Carrot could have somehow escaped differently if Oda wanted to. But all of that doesn't matter cause Oda decides to draw her next to the Straw Hats. Oda keeps reminding us that Carrot is in the same location as the rest of the Straw Hats. Does Robin have a solo scene or big moment since the raid began? Jinbei after they landed on the island? Sanji, Franky and Brook have disappeared for mutliple chapters before their entrance this chapter and while they were gone Oda continued to draw Carrot. Just like those got their moment there will also be a moment for Carrot and why she needs to be where Oda put her. I feel like repeating myself too often but Perosperos is heading to Big Mom, Carrot is next to Big Mom. I will honestly be shocked and confused if that has no payoff.

                    R 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • electricmastro
                      electricmastro @PKRolling456
                      @PKRolling456 last edited by
                      electricmastro
                      spiral
                      electricmastro
                      spiral

                      @PKRolling456:

                      Flashbacks are important though. They provide a deeper look at a character's past, showing us their motivations and how they've grown over time. It gives us a better understanding of a character which goes a long way in building interest in that character. Carrot so far hasn't gotten that kind of exposition and I feel it's one of her biggest problems. I would also dispute the notion that her experiences in WCI were an effective substitute for a flashback.

                      I’m personally willing to go along with the opinion that it’s fine if Oda is getting out of his traditional zone of tragic experiences happening only in the past to further develop a character along as opposed to having them happen in the moment, and that Ace’s death shouldn’t be only exception. I can understand why other may feel different in Oda consistently continuing the way men has though.

                      P 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • P
                        PKRolling456 @electricmastro
                        @electricmastro last edited by
                        P
                        spiral
                        PKRolling456
                        spiral

                        @electricmastro:

                        I’m personally willing to go along with the opinion that it’s fine if Oda is getting out of his traditional zone of tragic experiences happening only in the past to further develop a character along as opposed to having them happen in the moment, and that Ace’s death shouldn’t be only exception. I can understand why other may feel different in Oda consistently continuing the way men has though.

                        I would agree that Carrot doesn't need a flashback. What I'm trying to say is that she lacks the kind of depth that flashback provides. It's not just about experiencing a tragedy. It's how that tragedy shapes the kind of person you are. Flashbacks show why a person is the way they are and their motivations. If Oda were show that kind of growth and depth for Carrot in the present, then she doesn't need a flashback and I would be much more accepting of her, compared to how I feel about her right now. Right now, I just find her shallow.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • Solid
                          Solid
                          last edited by
                          Solid
                          spiral
                          Solid
                          spiral

                          Im actually starting to warming up for the idea for Tama to grow up somehow due to time shenanigans…

                          Recently played Final Fantasy 4 and spoiler

                          ! one of the party members is a 7 year old girl who gets transported to another world where time flows differently, she then comes back to party as a 17 year old girl

                          Im sure there are similar scenarios in other fiction and media, and I cant help but to think it might happen because of the time inconsistency with Tamas background, that would be the foreshadowing seed to it all, but its hard to imagine how it would make sense, but then again, it didnt make sense for Momo to have met Roger either back then.

                          What I dont like about the idea is that it would basically make her complete her goal, being an enchanting kunoichi, however her dream of joining Ace still wouldnt be fulfilled, which it wont be anyway.
                          It would also make her sort of ineligible for the pirate apprentice position, but instead she would actually be a full blown kunoichi, so i guess that could work as her position.
                          And being the only second small character in the crew would also go away…
                          And ofc the trope of the whole business is a bit unoriginal unless Oda could twist it in some interesting way.

                          The pro sides however, she could be strong.
                          If Oda says theres only a few years left of the series, then maybe theres not enough of lighthearted adventures arc for the typical apprentice character, so... maybe it would be better if she actually was a grown up if that will be the case lol

                          Just a few thoughts.

                          C 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • R
                            RobinotX @TheGarc
                            @TheGarc last edited by
                            R
                            spiral
                            RobinotX
                            spiral

                            @Zhenja:

                            They bumped her with them because they all were intruders, and they knew they belonged together, everything else would've been stupid.
                            It's the same with Luffy calling her name on the ship while holding back Katakuri, would've been stupid if he had called everyone but her.

                            Take it for what it is and not what you would like it to be.

                            While I am definitly more in the boat of Carrot joins the Straw Hats I am not perse someone that wants her with the Straw Hats. My main reason why I think she would be joining is why does she excist in the first place. No moment in the story I felt that whatever Carrot did was something SHE had to do. All the things that happened in Whole Cake Island with Carrot could have been done with Pekoms for example. So why create a Rabbit Mink that is different than the others? A Guardian Musketeer Mink, as far as I know there were no other Minks that had both things. For me it seems the way she is writting she is being put as a Straw Hat and I agree she isn't popping off compared to some other Straw Hats before they joined (Franky for example). Doesn't mean that isnt going to happen.

                            Anyway, I feel the story is pointing her out towards joining the crew. If it happens cool, if it doesn't she 100% joins the Grand Fleet. But for the moment I find it weird she has been around the Straw Hats all the time.

                            In regards to the poster and how they call everyone Straw Hats. I wasn't aware this happened with the Franky Family as well, it has been a while ;).

                            @TheGarc:

                            And yet Oda continues to draw her. Carrot has no reason to be where she is. Oda could have put her with the other Minks. He could have drawn Namis reactions alone. Carrot and Nami could have split up. Carrot could have somehow escaped differently if Oda wanted to. But all of that doesn't matter cause Oda decides to draw her next to the Straw Hats. Oda keeps reminding us that Carrot is in the same location as the rest of the Straw Hats. Does Robin have a solo scene or big moment since the raid began? Jinbei after they landed on the island? Sanji, Franky and Brook have disappeared for mutliple chapters before their entrance this chapter and while they were gone Oda continued to draw Carrot. Just like those got their moment there will also be a moment for Carrot and why she needs to be where Oda put her. I feel like repeating myself too often but Perosperos is heading to Big Mom, Carrot is next to Big Mom. I will honestly be shocked and confused if that has no payoff.

                            I am with you on that point. But also I explained above, I feel she didn't need to join the Whole Cake Island arc at all. They could have done all those things with Pekoms as well. And now she is still with Big Mom and the other Straw Hats. I am really curious where it goes. But I do agree if nothing happens that puts her in the limelight, then she really doesn't join the main crew.

                            " I have created over a thousand blades. Unknown to death. Nor known to life. Have withstood pain to create many weapons. Yet, those hands will never hold anything. "

                            Monquito 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • Shift
                              Shift
                              Warlord Mod
                              @Daz
                              @Daz last edited by
                              Shift
                              spiral
                              Shift
                              Warlord Mod
                              spiral

                              @Daz:

                              I find it curious that in this recent spat of Carrot debate, no one is really talking about how she is presented in the actual current chapters. Because unlike for most of Wano, now she has moved from Present in a general sense, as in somewhere on the island to actually present at the current focus of action.
                              Now, I’ve gone on record several times lamenting the decrease in crewmember spotlighting in this arc, but even compared to the actual crewmembers Carrots focus comes off as anemic. She’s been pretty much relegated to be an accessory to Nami, reacting or acting alongside her. Its not just that she shows up on 1 panel in the most recent chapter I’m not sure theres been a single case in this raid of a panel dedicated entirely to her, or even a panel where shes highlighted as the main focus? I pretty much mainly remember her being in the background as Nami has been in the foreground.
                              Now again, its not like all the other Straw Hats have been getting exposure left and right, but even currently-off-screen Jinbe and Robin got some highlight panels that showed of them specifically in fun ways.
                              For the last while I’ve not posted here because I felt arguing storytelling shortcomings of Carrot as a crewmember felt stupid considering how much I criticize Odas recent storytelling choices, but now we’ve seen not only a slight uptick in Straw hat exposure, but even that Oda can still do extended exposure for a new character, in the form of Yamato.
                              Hence: From the POV of Carrot supposedly being the Next Big Thing you’d really think she’d be highlighted more, even on a level comparable to the existing crewmembers.

                              Back when Jinbe was introduced, Oda was being very careful with how he laid out the clues to him joining. Years of buildup, nothing too overt, and even after he was invited, Oda kept that lid on the pot for years and years.

                              In the same way, he’s been giving Carrot only the bare minimum that she needs to remain relevant. Subtle introduction, subtle inclusion in the group dynamics. It was only Pedro’s death that tipped Oda’s hand at Carrot’s true reason for being there through everything.

                              The second that Carrot does something important in this final battle, it’ll be like blood in the water. Everyone’s gonna notice, everyone will put their hat into the ring arguing for or against her with renewed enthusiasm. The only reason that wave has been held back is because Oda’s been keeping her presence very, very subtle. She’s there, she’s with the crew, and with Shinobu and Yamato off with Momo, she's once again the sole ally alone with them. She doesn’t have to do anything until her big moment arrives, the string is that taut. She's Chekhov's rabbit.

                              ![](https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498196_10155717412051343_9025410345413307488_n.j pg)![](https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498196_10155717412051343_9025410345413307488_n.j pg?oh=4670e1d94ec9f74747dbcc981bb8a774&oe=5AB15A1B)

                              Like the Avatar? / Like the Miis?

                              Dragalia Lost ID: 97617932505

                              Monquito 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • Watch-man
                                Watch-man
                                last edited by
                                Watch-man
                                spiral
                                Watch-man
                                spiral

                                After Jinbe there will be one more character joining. Pekoms with an eyepatch.

                                Shift 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • Shift
                                  Shift
                                  Warlord Mod
                                  @Watch-man
                                  @Watch-man last edited by
                                  Shift
                                  spiral
                                  Shift
                                  Warlord Mod
                                  spiral

                                  @Watch-man:

                                  After Jinbe there will be one more character joining. Pekoms with an eyepatch.

                                  But he already wears sunglasses, which should still work to partially cover the awesome scars he'll likely have over both eyes.

                                  ![](https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498196_10155717412051343_9025410345413307488_n.j pg)![](https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498196_10155717412051343_9025410345413307488_n.j pg?oh=4670e1d94ec9f74747dbcc981bb8a774&oe=5AB15A1B)

                                  Like the Avatar? / Like the Miis?

                                  Dragalia Lost ID: 97617932505

                                  Watch-man 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • Solid
                                    Solid
                                    last edited by
                                    Solid
                                    spiral
                                    Solid
                                    spiral

                                    Pekoms overlaps with Sunny 😆

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • Watch-man
                                      Watch-man @Shift
                                      @Shift last edited by
                                      Watch-man
                                      spiral
                                      Watch-man
                                      spiral

                                      @Shift:

                                      But he already wears sunglasses, which should still work to partially cover the awesome scars he'll likely have over both eyes.

                                      Oda said in one of interviews that he is eager to draw one character with an eyepatch and that character will be part of One Piece discovery/ ending.

                                      Also Oda said some time ago that if Luffy starts to care for someone and consider him or her a nakama he starts to use their name. Thats the case with Pekoms.

                                      We seen him in action only few times.

                                      He would be great for combos with Sanji where he kicks Pekoms in turtle mode covered in CoA into their enemies 👅

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • C
                                        Chams @Solid
                                        @Solid last edited by
                                        C
                                        spiral
                                        Chams
                                        spiral

                                        @Solid:

                                        Im actually starting to warming up for the idea for Tama to grow up somehow due to time shenanigans…

                                        Recently played Final Fantasy 4 and spoiler

                                        ! one of the party members is a 7 year old girl who gets transported to another world where time flows differently, she then comes back to party as a 17 year old girl

                                        Im sure there are similar scenarios in other fiction and media, and I cant help but to think it might happen because of the time inconsistency with Tamas background, that would be the foreshadowing seed to it all, but its hard to imagine how it would make sense, but then again, it didnt make sense for Momo to have met Roger either back then.

                                        Crazy theory, but what if we have another timeskip after Wano? The strawhats have to rest after defeating Kaidou, Luffy recovers from injuries, they are welcome to stay in the country, which is now open to the world but safe from the WG, and it gives enough time for Tama and Momo to grow up. They leave Wano in the hands of a more mature shogun, and can take her with them. The new arc starts with them going straight for the One Piece, looking for the last Ponegliph.

                                        otakufan 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • omy785
                                          omy785
                                          last edited by
                                          omy785
                                          spiral
                                          omy785
                                          spiral

                                          Fascinating, but I think unlikely. Things have been set in motion for quite some time now since we entered the New World, and while the SH could take a break, that's not true for the rest of the world…

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • U
                                            uniaka ikuzakas
                                            last edited by
                                            U
                                            spiral
                                            uniaka ikuzakas
                                            spiral

                                            I think the eyepatch thing is luffy after his final battle. his final opponent will cut out one of his eyes.

                                            https://imgur.com/MyjRSWw

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • Deicide
                                              Deicide
                                              last edited by
                                              Deicide
                                              spiral
                                              Deicide
                                              spiral

                                              I think the eyepatch will be Blackbeard’s, from his fight with Shanks…

                                              Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

                                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                              • otakufan
                                                otakufan @Chams
                                                @Chams last edited by
                                                otakufan
                                                spiral
                                                otakufan
                                                spiral

                                                @Chams:

                                                Crazy theory, but what if we have another timeskip after Wano? The strawhats have to rest after defeating Kaidou, Luffy recovers from injuries, they are welcome to stay in the country, which is now open to the world but safe from the WG, and it gives enough time for Tama and Momo to grow up. They leave Wano in the hands of a more mature shogun, and can take her with them. The new arc starts with them going straight for the One Piece, looking for the last Ponegliph.

                                                Unlikely, in my mind. The Reverie's setting a lot of end-game things in motion for the World Government and Blackbeard's already moving to respond.

                                                A nice long celebration is in order, sure, but only something in the realm of a week or two max. Momo and Tama need years to truly come into their own, at a minimum.

                                                Without love, it cannot be seen.

                                                Solid 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                • Solid
                                                  Solid @otakufan
                                                  @otakufan last edited by
                                                  Solid
                                                  spiral
                                                  Solid
                                                  spiral

                                                  @otakufan:

                                                  Unlikely, in my mind. The Reverie's setting a lot of end-game things in motion for the World Government and Blackbeard's already moving to respond.

                                                  A nice long celebration is in order, sure, but only something in the realm of a week or two max. Momo and Tama need years to truly come into their own, at a minimum.

                                                  Never say never, a timeskip would enable Blackbeard and WG to naturally expand their power after the fall of Kaido and Big mom, and the aftermath of the reverie is done already, it has reached a conclussion we just dont exactly what it was.
                                                  Im still on the side of a timeskip not happening but I dont think it is out of question tbh.

                                                  otakufan omy785 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                  • otakufan
                                                    otakufan @Solid
                                                    @Solid last edited by
                                                    otakufan
                                                    spiral
                                                    otakufan
                                                    spiral

                                                    @Solid:

                                                    Never say never, a timeskip would enable Blackbeard and WG to naturally expand their power after the fall of Kaido and Big mom, and the aftermath of the reverie is done already, it has reached a conclussion we just dont exactly what it was.
                                                    Im still on the side of a timeskip not happening but I dont think it is out of question tbh.

                                                    Didn't say never, just unlikely.

                                                    And what happened AT the Reverie is over now, but the fallout is still very much in motion and I fully expect some big reveals once the Strawhats get their hands on a newspaper.

                                                    Without love, it cannot be seen.

                                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                    • omy785
                                                      omy785 @Solid
                                                      @Solid last edited by
                                                      omy785
                                                      spiral
                                                      omy785
                                                      spiral

                                                      @Solid:

                                                      Never say never, a timeskip would enable Blackbeard and WG to naturally expand their power

                                                      That's quite a contradiction since they're on opposite sides. This will actually be the perfect time to give a big hit on piracy since (let's suppose) 2 Emperors are down and 1 (SH) is recovering. Giving SH and BB time would make it dangerous

                                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                      • Solid
                                                        Solid
                                                        last edited by
                                                        Solid
                                                        spiral
                                                        Solid
                                                        spiral

                                                        Yeah, im not expecting a timeskip for a year or longer, but I think it would be fitting with a timeskip for a few months or several weeks actually, just to let the world digest the new world structure.

                                                        Deicide 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                        • Deicide
                                                          Deicide @Solid
                                                          @Solid last edited by
                                                          Deicide
                                                          spiral
                                                          Deicide
                                                          spiral

                                                          I think the whole point is that the world won’t have time to digest what’s happening.

                                                          Things are revolving too fast and it can’t be stopped.

                                                          Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

                                                          Solid 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                          • Monquito
                                                            Monquito @Shift
                                                            @Shift last edited by
                                                            Monquito
                                                            spiral
                                                            Monquito
                                                            spiral

                                                            @Shift:

                                                            In the same way, he’s been giving Carrot only the bare minimum

                                                            Jinbro's heroic team up cover with SH's only, the arrival to the battleground in Fishman Island with the whole crew and an Ancient Weapon, the blood transfussion scene, the invitation itself.
                                                            That's not bare minimum to me.

                                                            Shift 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                            • Solid
                                                              Solid @Deicide
                                                              @Deicide last edited by
                                                              Solid
                                                              spiral
                                                              Solid
                                                              spiral

                                                              @Deicide:

                                                              I think the whole point is that the world won’t have time to digest what’s happening.

                                                              Things are revolving too fast and it can’t be stopped.

                                                              Yeah, most likely the current events and the reverie will snowball effect into the final arc, but I can see either way happening.

                                                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                              • Monquito
                                                                Monquito @RobinotX
                                                                @RobinotX last edited by
                                                                Monquito
                                                                spiral
                                                                Monquito
                                                                spiral

                                                                @RobinotX:

                                                                if it doesn't she 100% joins the Grand Fleet.

                                                                Naah, she doesn't even know they exist.

                                                                I feel like if she doesn't join, she'll end up doing some Nox Pirates related stuff, after all it would make sense that she inherited Pedro's will to search Poneglyphs and she's already participated in a mission to steal one of them.

                                                                And there are some important Poneglyphs still out there.

                                                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                • Shift
                                                                  Shift
                                                                  Warlord Mod
                                                                  @Monquito
                                                                  @Monquito last edited by
                                                                  Shift
                                                                  spiral
                                                                  Shift
                                                                  Warlord Mod
                                                                  spiral

                                                                  @Monquito:

                                                                  Jinbro's heroic team up cover with SH's only, the arrival to the battleground in Fishman Island with the whole crew and an Ancient Weapon, the blood transfussion scene, the invitation itself.
                                                                  That's not bare minimum to me.

                                                                  We waited two years for all that to happen. Like I said, Carrot's once again alone with the majority of the crew right now. The big SH lineup is definitely possible.

                                                                  ![](https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498196_10155717412051343_9025410345413307488_n.j pg)![](https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498196_10155717412051343_9025410345413307488_n.j pg?oh=4670e1d94ec9f74747dbcc981bb8a774&oe=5AB15A1B)

                                                                  Like the Avatar? / Like the Miis?

                                                                  Dragalia Lost ID: 97617932505

                                                                  Shiebs Monquito 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                  • Shiebs
                                                                    Shiebs @Shift
                                                                    @Shift last edited by
                                                                    Shiebs
                                                                    spiral
                                                                    Shiebs
                                                                    spiral

                                                                    @Shift:

                                                                    We waited two years for all that to happen. Like I said, Carrot's once again alone with the majority of the crew right now. The big SH lineup is definitely possible.

                                                                    So is Shinobu, Momo and Yamato though

                                                                    Shift Gia Sado 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                    • Shift
                                                                      Shift
                                                                      Warlord Mod
                                                                      @Shiebs
                                                                      @Shiebs last edited by
                                                                      Shift
                                                                      spiral
                                                                      Shift
                                                                      Warlord Mod
                                                                      spiral

                                                                      @Shiebs:

                                                                      So is Shinobu, Momo and Yamato though

                                                                      They're taking Momo somewhere safe. I have a feeling that won't be in the banquet hall.

                                                                      ![](https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498196_10155717412051343_9025410345413307488_n.j pg)![](https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498196_10155717412051343_9025410345413307488_n.j pg?oh=4670e1d94ec9f74747dbcc981bb8a774&oe=5AB15A1B)

                                                                      Like the Avatar? / Like the Miis?

                                                                      Dragalia Lost ID: 97617932505

                                                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                      • Gia Sado
                                                                        Gia Sado @Shiebs
                                                                        @Shiebs last edited by
                                                                        Gia Sado
                                                                        spiral
                                                                        Gia Sado
                                                                        spiral

                                                                        @Shiebs:

                                                                        So is Shinobu, Momo and Yamato though

                                                                        Well, if you are believer, Yamato might also be part of that group (yes, insinuating Oda may be adding Jinbe, Carrot AND Yamato to the strawhats post-Wano). We know Shinobu or Momo realistically isn't.

                                                                        To be fair, I wouldn't expect that type of double spread for a while. Luffy is leaving the area that Yamato, Nami, Carrot, Franky and Brook are in. Zoro, Sanji, Usopp, Chopper, Robin and Jinbe aren't even in that area as far as we know.

                                                                        Shift 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                        • Shift
                                                                          Shift
                                                                          Warlord Mod
                                                                          @Gia Sado
                                                                          @Gia Sado last edited by
                                                                          Shift
                                                                          spiral
                                                                          Shift
                                                                          Warlord Mod
                                                                          spiral

                                                                          @Gia:

                                                                          To be fair, I wouldn't expect that type of double spread for a while. Luffy is leaving the area that Yamato, Nami, Carrot, Franky and Brook are in. Zoro, Sanji, Usopp, Chopper, Robin and Jinbe aren't even in that area as far as we know.

                                                                          Robin and Jinbe definitely are, they were eating below the main stage with everyone else. Chopper and Usopp said they were on their way there, too, and they're bringing the other half of General Franky. I don't think Luffy actually ran away, he said that he needs to stop BM before he can go up to fight Kaido. Sanji's there, but it's hard to say if he'll be ready to fight again right away. Zoro's the only one we really can't account for, but it's always possible he'll make it in time. And Luffy told Yamato to help Shinobu and Momo, which I still think means they'll be leaving the area for the time being.

                                                                          If Luffy, the majority of his crew and Carrot all fought BM together, I think they'd have a decent chance of taking her down, especially if Luffy lands the final blow with Ryuo.

                                                                          ![](https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498196_10155717412051343_9025410345413307488_n.j pg)![](https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498196_10155717412051343_9025410345413307488_n.j pg?oh=4670e1d94ec9f74747dbcc981bb8a774&oe=5AB15A1B)

                                                                          Like the Avatar? / Like the Miis?

                                                                          Dragalia Lost ID: 97617932505

                                                                          B theackwardstation 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                          • Deicide
                                                                            Deicide
                                                                            last edited by
                                                                            Deicide
                                                                            spiral
                                                                            Deicide
                                                                            spiral

                                                                            While I think the crew will take down Big Mom (while Luffy and the Supernovas are busy with Kaido), I really doubt Big Mom will be the first to fall. The battle right now will most likely scatter the forces of both sides first.

                                                                            Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

                                                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                            • B
                                                                              BattleFranky69 @Shift
                                                                              @Shift last edited by
                                                                              B
                                                                              spiral
                                                                              BattleFranky69
                                                                              spiral

                                                                              @Shift:

                                                                              Robin and Jinbe definitely are, they were eating below the main stage with everyone else. Chopper and Usopp said they were on their way there, too, and they're bringing the other half of General Franky. I don't think Luffy actually ran away, he said that he needs to stop BM before he can go up to fight Kaido. Sanji's there, but it's hard to say if he'll be ready to fight again right away. Zoro's the only one we really can't account for, but it's always possible he'll make it in time. And Luffy told Yamato to help Shinobu and Momo, which I still think means they'll be leaving the area for the time being.

                                                                              If Luffy, the majority of his crew and Carrot all fought BM together, I think they'd have a decent chance of taking her down, especially if Luffy lands the final blow with Ryuo.

                                                                              Brook definitely seems inexplicably effective against her, even when she's outnumbered him with Zeus, Prometheus and Napoleon, so you're probably right, if we get a full on Thriller Bark SH crew Vs. 'M-Oars-ia' situation with all current hands on deck vs. Linlin, they could probably pull it off (if she didn't have any outside assistance whatsoever; like if something distracted Prometheus/Napoleon, and Zeus returned to being loyal to Nami). I'm still pining for Moria to show up and let Luffy get shadow powered up again. I don't know if there's any other real way to match Kaido otherwise. But it would be fun to have Yamato enter the mix; the child of her biggest rival, fighting against her, the one whose crew almost entirely consists of her own children.

                                                                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                              • U
                                                                                uniaka ikuzakas
                                                                                last edited by
                                                                                U
                                                                                spiral
                                                                                uniaka ikuzakas
                                                                                spiral

                                                                                BM is taking over Elbaf with help of shirahoshi, after she steals her from FI. That giant adam tree on elbaf is the forest that luffy will show to shirahoshi.

                                                                                https://imgur.com/MyjRSWw

                                                                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                • B
                                                                                  Berry Rich
                                                                                  last edited by
                                                                                  B
                                                                                  spiral
                                                                                  Berry Rich
                                                                                  spiral

                                                                                  I'm waiting for Pedro's cover story :ninja:

                                                                                  And if someone should wear an eyepatch, it's Pedro. 👅

                                                                                  Bounty: 382M Quirks: High Places | Garchu

                                                                                  Roles: Ship Guard | Ship's Cat | Lookout

                                                                                  Clues: Ch 175 | Statue | Foxy Flag | Paw DF

                                                                                  Dreams: Travel w/ PK | The Dawn

                                                                                  Survival: Moon Resurrection | Will of P

                                                                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                  • Solid
                                                                                    Solid
                                                                                    last edited by
                                                                                    Solid
                                                                                    spiral
                                                                                    Solid
                                                                                    spiral

                                                                                    Luffy gets tons of damaged in this arc, arc ends, he rests for 6 months and gets am eyepatchnfpr the final arc 🆒

                                                                                    otakufan 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                    • Shift
                                                                                      Shift
                                                                                      Warlord Mod
                                                                                      last edited by
                                                                                      Shift
                                                                                      spiral
                                                                                      Shift
                                                                                      Warlord Mod
                                                                                      spiral

                                                                                      On another note, OP Magazine Vol. 10 is supposed to have some proto-crew sketches. With any luck, we'll finally get to see what Jinbe looked like next to the crew in the DB Green sketches he was erased from.

                                                                                      ![](https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498196_10155717412051343_9025410345413307488_n.j pg)![](https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498196_10155717412051343_9025410345413307488_n.j pg?oh=4670e1d94ec9f74747dbcc981bb8a774&oe=5AB15A1B)

                                                                                      Like the Avatar? / Like the Miis?

                                                                                      Dragalia Lost ID: 97617932505

                                                                                      Shiebs 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                      • Shiebs
                                                                                        Shiebs @Shift
                                                                                        @Shift last edited by
                                                                                        Shiebs
                                                                                        spiral
                                                                                        Shiebs
                                                                                        spiral

                                                                                        Maybe chapter 1000 cover will have a clue

                                                                                        Doubtful but possible

                                                                                        Deicide Monquito 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                        • otakufan
                                                                                          otakufan @Solid
                                                                                          @Solid last edited by
                                                                                          otakufan
                                                                                          spiral
                                                                                          otakufan
                                                                                          spiral

                                                                                          @Berry:

                                                                                          I'm waiting for Pedro's cover story :ninja:

                                                                                          And if someone should wear an eyepatch, it's Pedro. 👅

                                                                                          @Solid:

                                                                                          Luffy gets tons of damaged in this arc, arc ends, he rests for 6 months and gets am eyepatchnfpr the final arc 🆒

                                                                                          I guess I should actually write this down somewhere, just on the off chance I get to claim a "Called it!", at least in part, once we get to the between-arc interlude after Wano…

                                                                                          My crackpot theory about "Eyepatch Pirate":
                                                                                          Post-Wano, flashback to the last night of the Reverie, after many of the participants have left.
                                                                                          CP0 is tasked with assassinating Imu's chosen target.
                                                                                          Rob Lucci himself Shigan's Nefertari Vivi in the head, but only catches her in the eye as she unexpectedly manages to dodge out of the way.
                                                                                          The heroic intercession of Pell, Sai, Leo, and/or Sabo buys her time to escape.
                                                                                          CP0 break off in pursuit, and find Spandam beaten up with his mask stolen, with pieces of it lying around to suggest someone made some quick and dirty modifications to it.
                                                                                          Vivi is finally cornered near the cliff-face on the New World side of the Red Line (possibly in a building with a large window/balcony overlooking the sheer drop), with at least one non-WG agent as witness (possibly Wapol).
                                                                                          She wipes off a layer of foundation covering a X-shaped tattoo on her left forearm (with some added Alabastan imagery to boot), ties her hair up into her classic ponytail, turns to face her pursuers.
                                                                                          She is wearing a white leather eyepatch hastily made from portions of Spandam's mask, says to tell the world she's headed to the land of Fable, then steps backward off the edge and vanishes into the darkness below.
                                                                                          No body is found. The next day, Nefertari Vivi's wanted poster is published in newspapers around the world alongside her "final words".

                                                                                          Without love, it cannot be seen.

                                                                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                          • Deicide
                                                                                            Deicide @Shiebs
                                                                                            @Shiebs last edited by
                                                                                            Deicide
                                                                                            spiral
                                                                                            Deicide
                                                                                            spiral

                                                                                            @Shiebs:

                                                                                            Maybe chapter 1000 cover will have a clue

                                                                                            Doubtful but possible

                                                                                            Cue chapter 1000 having a spread with all 11 Straw Hats… plus several allies (Law, Vivi, Hancock, Carrot, Tama, Rebecca, Kin'emon, Sai, Cavendish, Barto, Sabo and many many others) just to make things harder to guess.

                                                                                            Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

                                                                                            Shiebs 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                            • Shiebs
                                                                                              Shiebs @Deicide
                                                                                              @Deicide last edited by
                                                                                              Shiebs
                                                                                              spiral
                                                                                              Shiebs
                                                                                              spiral

                                                                                              @Deicide:

                                                                                              Cue chapter 1000 having a spread with all 11 Straw Hats… plus several allies (Law, Vivi, Hancock, Carrot, Tama, Rebecca, Kin'emon, Sai, Cavendish, Barto, Sabo and many many others) just to make things harder to guess.

                                                                                              Some people just want to watch the world burn….. and Oda is apparently one of them

                                                                                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                              • theackwardstation
                                                                                                theackwardstation @Shift
                                                                                                @Shift last edited by
                                                                                                theackwardstation
                                                                                                spiral
                                                                                                theackwardstation
                                                                                                spiral

                                                                                                @Shift:

                                                                                                Robin and Jinbe definitely are, they were eating below the main stage with everyone else. Chopper and Usopp said they were on their way there, too, and they're bringing the other half of General Franky. I don't think Luffy actually ran away, he said that he needs to stop BM before he can go up to fight Kaido. Sanji's there, but it's hard to say if he'll be ready to fight again right away. Zoro's the only one we really can't account for, but it's always possible he'll make it in time. And Luffy told Yamato to help Shinobu and Momo, which I still think means they'll be leaving the area for the time being.

                                                                                                If Luffy, the majority of his crew and Carrot all fought BM together, I think they'd have a decent chance of taking her down, especially if Luffy lands the final blow with Ryuo.

                                                                                                I don't dislike the idea of Strawhats vs Big Mom, but the problem is that there are a lot of other enemies in the room too. Will they just take a seat and watch? Or are the other allies supposed to hold the enemies just for the Strawhats to fight?

                                                                                                Shift 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                                • Shift
                                                                                                  Shift
                                                                                                  Warlord Mod
                                                                                                  @theackwardstation
                                                                                                  @theackwardstation last edited by
                                                                                                  Shift
                                                                                                  spiral
                                                                                                  Shift
                                                                                                  Warlord Mod
                                                                                                  spiral

                                                                                                  @theackwardstation:

                                                                                                  I don't dislike the idea of Strawhats vs Big Mom, but the problem is that there are a lot of other enemies in the room too. Will they just take a seat and watch? Or are the other allies supposed to hold the enemies just for the Strawhats to fight?

                                                                                                  That's kind of my impression, yeah. Hyo and the other samurai have their hands full keeping the bulk of the enemy forces at bay, and what non-Gifter mooks are left seem content to comment on the action like they just did when BM was knocked down.

                                                                                                  ![](https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498196_10155717412051343_9025410345413307488_n.j pg)![](https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498196_10155717412051343_9025410345413307488_n.j pg?oh=4670e1d94ec9f74747dbcc981bb8a774&oe=5AB15A1B)

                                                                                                  Like the Avatar? / Like the Miis?

                                                                                                  Dragalia Lost ID: 97617932505

                                                                                                  Deicide 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                                  • Deicide
                                                                                                    Deicide @Shift
                                                                                                    @Shift last edited by
                                                                                                    Deicide
                                                                                                    spiral
                                                                                                    Deicide
                                                                                                    spiral

                                                                                                    @Shift:

                                                                                                    That's kind of my impression, yeah. Hyo and the other samurai have their hands full keeping the bulk of the enemy forces at bay, and what non-Gifter mooks are left seem content to comment on the action like they just did when BM was knocked down.

                                                                                                    The Tobi Roppo are also heading there, and there's Apoo nearby as well. Mooks can only take care of mooks.

                                                                                                    Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

                                                                                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                                    • Monquito
                                                                                                      Monquito @Shift
                                                                                                      @Shift last edited by
                                                                                                      Monquito
                                                                                                      spiral
                                                                                                      Monquito
                                                                                                      spiral

                                                                                                      @Shift:

                                                                                                      We waited two years for all that to happen.

                                                                                                      We've been four years with Carrot, twice that.

                                                                                                      Shift 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                                      • Shift
                                                                                                        Shift
                                                                                                        Warlord Mod
                                                                                                        @Monquito
                                                                                                        @Monquito last edited by
                                                                                                        Shift
                                                                                                        spiral
                                                                                                        Shift
                                                                                                        Warlord Mod
                                                                                                        spiral

                                                                                                        @Monquito:

                                                                                                        We've been four years with Carrot, twice that.

                                                                                                        And it took 10 years to actually, officially, have Jinbe labeled a Straw Hat crew member. Time is no obstacle here.

                                                                                                        ![](https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498196_10155717412051343_9025410345413307488_n.j pg)![](https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498196_10155717412051343_9025410345413307488_n.j pg?oh=4670e1d94ec9f74747dbcc981bb8a774&oe=5AB15A1B)

                                                                                                        Like the Avatar? / Like the Miis?

                                                                                                        Dragalia Lost ID: 97617932505

                                                                                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0

                                                                                                        • 1
                                                                                                        • 2
                                                                                                        • 28
                                                                                                        • 29
                                                                                                        • 30
                                                                                                        • 31
                                                                                                        • 32
                                                                                                        • 203
                                                                                                        • 204
                                                                                                        • 30 / 204
                                                                                                        • First post
                                                                                                          Last post
                                                                                                        Powered by NodeBB | Contributors