Kaido was introduced as a guy who had lost like 7 times before, lol.
Anyway, people are too naive. Kaido will be the hugest pain in the *** to defeat.
Speaking of which, how many times has Luffy lost so far? From memory 2 to croc, 1 to Lucci, 1 to the enraged army in WCI, 1 to Kaido now… I don't know if I should count Smoker at Loguetown and Kuma in Sabaody as losses. And I can't remember if he lost to someone at Thriller Bark.
Momo's memory of Luffy seems to reference chapter 701, but his talons getting in Luffy's mouth wasn't onscreen in the manga, and the wording is slightly different. "I'm gonna be the King of the Pirates one day" in chapter 701 vs "one day, I'm gonna be King of the Pirates" here. Oda's mistake, or a quirk of the translation? I wonder if it'll be changed for the volume release.
701: おれはいつか「海賊王」になる男だ ばーか!!
986: おれはいつか海賊王になる男だ!!
Not much of a difference on Oda’s part
Speaking of which, how many times has Luffy lost so far? From memory 2 to croc, 1 to Lucci, 1 to the enraged army in WCI, 1 to Kaido now… I don't know if I should count Smoker at Loguetown and Kuma in Sabaody as losses. And I can't remember if he lost to someone at Thriller Bark.
Aokiji, Magellan and the beat down by Kizaru and the vice-admirals at marineford come to mind. Also Caesar, I think defeated and captured back at Punk hazard I think. There are probably more that I don't remember right now.
Has anybody mentioned that Izo somehow grew so much compare to his original height?
In the Vivre Card his height stated 192 cm (6'3"), but he is clearly taller now (same height as his brother Kiku, who is 287 cm (9'5")).
In the chapter the biggest proof is when he grabs Kinemon's hand.
Oda is pretty inconsistent with character heights / scale.
Luffy, Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, Chopper, Robin, Franky, Brook, Jimbei, Carrot, Vivi, Smoker
"ONE PIECE, IT EXISTS" - The Great Pirate Edward Newgate
Has the three eyed homie that is holding Nami appeared in a previous chapter? Because I don't remember seeing him before and I just find it interesting that such a homie exists because it would mean that has taken some of Puddings life.
Has anybody mentioned that Izo somehow grew so much compare to his original height?
In the Vivre Card his height stated 192 cm (6'3"), but he is clearly taller now (same height as his brother Kiku, who is 287 cm (9'5")).
In the chapter the biggest proof is when he grabs Kinemon's hand.
Oda’s pretty notorious for inconsistent character sizing, especially when next to other characters, though I don’t have any good examples offhand.
Originally Posted by Nightwing
Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?
The Nami and Carrot moment is another one that has been handled oddly over the last two chapters. Last week it was really ambiguous whether they'd been beaten and left behind somewhere, or whether they were being dragged behind O-Lin or what. A panel or two might have been saved if they were shown in the hands of the Homies like this last week instead of making a mystery of it.
Robin reacted to the fact Nami was captured, so for me it was obvious she was next to Mum
Oda’s pretty notorious for inconsistent character sizing, especially when next to other characters, though I don’t have any good examples offhand.
Brook: 277 cm
Sanji: 180 cm
Pekoms: 232 cm
Bege: 166 cm
Plus, Oda also gave Izo's height in Volume 96's SBS, so he didn't intend for Izo to grow during the timeskip.
Has anybody mentioned that Izo somehow grew so much compare to his original height?
In the Vivre Card his height stated 192 cm (6'3"), but he is clearly taller now (same height as his brother Kiku, who is 287 cm (9'5")).
In the chapter the biggest proof is when he grabs Kinemon's hand.
Ashura is supposed to be 544 cm and look how tall he is standing next to them.
And also (btw Momo is 110cm and Kanjuro 347cm)
Has the three eyed homie that is holding Nami appeared in a previous chapter? Because I don't remember seeing him before and I just find it interesting that such a homie exists because it would mean that has taken some of Puddings life.
Big Mom just created all those homies just now for the occasion.
Has the three eyed homie that is holding Nami appeared in a previous chapter? Because I don't remember seeing him before and I just find it interesting that such a homie exists because it would mean that has taken some of Puddings life.
Does last chapter counts?
Aokiji, Magellan and the beat down by Kizaru and the vice-admirals at marineford come to mind. Also Caesar, I think defeated and captured back at Punk hazard I think. There are probably more that I don't remember right now.
I would say Monet beat him too and the giant on little garden
I think its going to be incredibly interesting that we are going to see a super powerful antagonist/villain who has the same undying drive never to give up as out protagonist.
The only reason Luffy, "beat" Katakuri is because he had been willing to get up as many times as he was knocked down. Katakuri was not.
Now, we are going to see an Emperor that can stand back up from nearly everything and its going to be a true battle of Wills.
Who really wants it more.
HOW COME LUFFY NEVER KILLS AN ENEMY?
ODA:ITS BECAUSE IN THAT ERA EVERYONE USES THEIR LIVES TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS. FOR AN ENEMY WHEN THEIR DREAM HAS BEEN SHATTERED,IT IS AS PAINFUL AS DEATH,I BELIEVE FOR A PIRATE NOT TO KILL AN ENEMY , IT'S GIVING THEM A SECOND CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS.
I think its going to be incredibly interesting that we are going to see a super powerful antagonist/villain who has the same undying drive never to give up as out protagonist.
The only reason Luffy, "beat" Katakuri is because he had been willing to get up as many times as he was knocked down. Katakuri was not.
Now, we are going to see an Emperor that can stand back up from nearly everything and its going to be a true battle of Wills.
Who really wants it more.
I think it's obvious Luffy won't beat Kaido in a straightforward match. Luffy just learned how to use Hakimplosion, but that alone is not enough.
He will likely use Hawkins' heart of the cards powerup to get into that level.
Has anybody mentioned that Izo somehow grew so much compare to his original height?
In the Vivre Card his height stated 192 cm (6'3"), but he is clearly taller now (same height as his brother Kiku, who is 287 cm (9'5")).
In the chapter the biggest proof is when he grabs Kinemon's hand.
His heart's passion is so large, his body had no choice but to grow in response.
I hope we will have Kaidou and Mum next to each other playing who is the strongest :-)
I think it's obvious Luffy won't beat Kaido in a straightforward match. Luffy just learned how to use Hakimplosion, but that alone is not enough.
He will likely use Hawkins' heart of the cards powerup to get into that level.
More likely than him "awakening" or pulling "gear 5" out? I doubt it.
Has the three eyed homie that is holding Nami appeared in a previous chapter? Because I don't remember seeing him before and I just find it interesting that such a homie exists because it would mean that has taken some of Puddings life.
Thats an interesting thought. 3 Eyes did appear earlier but it having 3 eyes is a little suspicious. I've always assumed the Homie's running around are made from the souls of various Tottoland inhabitants that she just always carries around. Linlin made it quite clear Zues and Prometheus were special because they were made from her personal soul. I doubt she made this Yokai with her own and instead just dug into her soul bag that is always on her person.
Would be kind of nuts Sanji sensed something familiar about that thing. His Haki does seem to tap into emotions and all that.
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯ 
Considering many of Big Mom's yokai are also cyclopsis, I'm assuming they're just like that to fit the legends.
Oh yeah that was my next counter point.
701: おれはいつか「海賊王」になる男だ ばーか!!
986: おれはいつか 海賊王 になる男だ!!
Not much of a difference on Oda’s part
Yeah that lines up pretty well. Disappointing that Stephen didn't manage to match his own old script. Hope to see it fixed in the volume.
Personally, I really like that all of the Emperors aren't just unbeatable, emotionless monsters, but are actually being portrayed as normal, flawed human beings…who happen to be immensely strong monsters, too.
EDIT: Like, it really comes across to me that it's very important to Oda that all of the Yonko are written as memorable, interesting and entertaining characters. Right now, Shanks of all people is probably the most uninteresting Yonko to me.
This is a very important point, honestly. One Piece is about flawed characters (aka better written characters) than perfect ones. If you saw an anime/manga character like, say, Medaka, and you were like "eh, this character is too perfect" (even though that was her shtick), you'd lean more towards preferring flaws in characters.
Kaido got introduced IMMEDIATELY with the "he was defeated x times, captured y times" intro boxes on his first on-screen appearance. So him being unbeatable was never the intention. Just as you said, immensely strong, nearly god-like strength.
Though all of that said, there definitely still are 1-note gag characters but they're usually very minor characters.
Croc or Enel would never.
Wanna see the "ancient civilization destroyed" thing done really well? FFXIV did a great take on it. The bar's high for One Piece to beat.
I'm more eager for 987 than usual.
Need to keep my expectations down…
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
I'm more eager for 987 than usual.
Need to keep my expectations down…
We've had absolute bangers for chapters, especially since Onigashima started.
I think we're completely done with any "haha Franky builds boats" type chapters. We're full on engaged now.
Same here though, just expecting Kaido to completely trounce them.
Croc or Enel would never.
Wanna see the "ancient civilization destroyed" thing done really well? FFXIV did a great take on it. The bar's high for One Piece to beat.
I think it's obvious Luffy won't beat Kaido in a straightforward match. Luffy just learned how to use Hakimplosion, but that alone is not enough.
He will likely use Hawkins' heart of the cards powerup to get into that level.
I can see a massive supernova tag team attack doing siginificant damage to Kaidou. Similar to what happened with Bullet.
But, I genuinely believe that the true end of the fight will be Kaidou vs Luffy, one on one.
We've had absolute bangers for chapters, especially since Onigashima started.
I think we're completely done with any "haha Franky builds boats" type chapters. We're full on engaged now.
Same here though, just expecting Kaido to completely trounce them.
Yea the Onigashima stretch has been fantastic so far, and that's all before the raid had actually begun. Well, until now of course.
Yea the Onigashima stretch has been fantastic so far, and that's all before the raid had actually begun. Well, until now of course.
It has, it's crazy to think this basically STARTED with the huge double spread of the 3 Supernova leaders, Luffy, Law, and Kid.
I have to reiterate that's a big moment in the series I've been wanting since Sabaody.
And before that, something I've wanted even MORE was Luffy wearing a captain's coat. And we got that too.
It's a really fucking good time to be a fan of this series. o_o
Croc or Enel would never.
Wanna see the "ancient civilization destroyed" thing done really well? FFXIV did a great take on it. The bar's high for One Piece to beat.
And before that, something I've wanted even MORE was Luffy wearing a captain's coat. And we got that too.
About that… I wish it would have been addressed in the manga, lol.
I like it, obviously, but it would have been better if Luffy had made a funny remark for why he's using this kind of coat, kinda like how there was a little conversation about the afro for his fight against Foxy.
I mean, it's a bold fashion choice that screams a symbolic gesture of grandeur. So I rather see it as a choice that Luffy made for himself as a statement than just the author randomly putting the coat on him just to show how much Luffy has grown as a pirate.
About that… I wish it would have been addressed in the manga, lol.
I like it, obviously, but it would have been better if Luffy had made a funny remark for why he's using this kind of coat, kinda like how there was a little conversation about the afro for his fight against Foxy.
I mean, it's a bold fashion choice that screams a symbolic gesture of grandeur. So I rather see it as a choice that Luffy made for himself as a statement than just the author randomly putting the coat on him just to show how much Luffy has grown as a pirate.
I definitely don't find it random, I find the timing and context perfect for it to be worn.
A comment for me is just a bonus.
Croc or Enel would never.
Wanna see the "ancient civilization destroyed" thing done really well? FFXIV did a great take on it. The bar's high for One Piece to beat.
I definitely don't find it random, I find the timing and context perfect for it to be worn.
A comment for me is just a bonus.
I don't say "random" in the sense that the timing and context are wrong. On the contrary, it's the right time. Luffy is the fifth emperor and it's about to defeat two Yonkou, soon to become PK, so it makes sense to put on him the fancy garments that indicates his status. But that's subtext and design.
My thing is more like why would Luffy be wearing the coat now from his own perpesctive? In other words, what made Luffy open his closet this morning and say "oh yeah, today is the day that I'll wear my fancy Pirate King coat! yarr!"?
This is the kind of thing that should be a "character moment" for him, IMO, and a fun one. Especially because Luffy is not the kind of guy to care for fashion, so it would be cool to see his thoughts and logic behind using fancy garments. Details like this is what elevates the experience.
I don't say "random" in the sense that the timing and context are wrong. On the contrary, it's the right time. Luffy is the fifth emperor and it's about to defeat two Yonkou, soon to become PK, so it makes sense to put on him the fancy garments that indicates his status. But that's subtext and design.
My thing is more like why would Luffy be wearing the coat now from his own perpesctive? In other words, what made Luffy open his closet this morning and say "oh yeah, today is the day that I'll wear my fancy Pirate King coat! yarr!"?
This is the kind of thing that should be a "character moment" for him, IMO, and a fun one. Especially because Luffy is not the kind of guy to care for fashion, so it would be cool to see his thoughts and logic behind using fancy garments. Details like this is what elevates the experience.
Hmmm. Gotta say I agree here. But, there is a type of coolness to him just donning the coat. Basically the absolute best way Oda could handle it is to have Usopp say "yo man what's with the new coat?" and have Luffy answer and they have a little bro moment.
Either way, I'm just happy he's got the coat on, and everything about it works for me context-wise so I really have no issue haha.
OR have Kaido go "Why are you so cocky, boy? Acting like you're a real pirate." etc. then Luffy answers, hell I'd prefer this.
Croc or Enel would never.
Wanna see the "ancient civilization destroyed" thing done really well? FFXIV did a great take on it. The bar's high for One Piece to beat.
Hmmm. Gotta say I agree here. But, there is a type of coolness to him just donning the coat. Basically the absolute best way Oda could handle it is to have Usopp say "yo man what's with the new coat?" and have Luffy answer and they have a little bro moment.
Either way, I'm just happy he's got the coat on, and everything about it works for me context-wise so I really have no issue haha.
Yes, I don't mean to complain. It's not a problem. I just think it's a missed opportunity.
OR have Kaido go "Why are you so cocky, boy? Acting like you're a real pirate." etc. then Luffy answers, hell I'd prefer this.
That's true. It can still be done.
Yes, I don't mean to complain. It's not a problem. I just think it's a missed opportunity.
That's true. It can still be done.
Oda "late blooms" a lot of moments, I wouldn't throw out the possibility yet. How long did it take for us to find out Luffy had a brother? A decent while. Trying to think of something someone took forever to comment on in story but there are obviously tons of examples.
Croc or Enel would never.
Wanna see the "ancient civilization destroyed" thing done really well? FFXIV did a great take on it. The bar's high for One Piece to beat.
So what's the part that made Takano cry?
I'm actually glad that this is the one chapter where the editor cried, it freed me from overthinking about next chapter, it made me feel so much anxious.
Now I can go back to worry about Tarte 05.
@Kucing:
So what's the part that made Takano cry?
Either the sad ending to a friendship with Kinemon and Kiku having to kill their friend Kanjuro
or
The scabbards giving up on everything they are and going for a this-or-nothing attack on Kaido.
Could be Momo's moment, too. Or even Yamato finding out the truth about the cuffs. This chapter was pretty full of potentially emotional scenes.
Turns out Takano has been an editor for about an year, so this being the first time he cried since he became an editor suddenly sounds less about the chapter being all that and more about him just crying easily. I mean, have you cried reading One Piece in the last year?
Well, I didn't cry, but I did sympathize with how bad Kaido and Orochi have fucked up Wano to the core.
Momo saying is name and bursting into tears was really touching and the final double page is really great
If it wasn't for the weird pacing of the handcuffs which explode 3 pages later than they are taken off, that would be a very great chapter
Momo saying is name and bursting into tears was really touching and the final double page is really great
If it wasn't for the weird pacing of the handcuffs which explode 3 pages later than they are taken off, that would be a very great chapter
Yeah I thought I skipped a page there.
Speaking of which, how many times has Luffy lost so far? From memory 2 to croc, 1 to Lucci, 1 to the enraged army in WCI, 1 to Kaido now… I don't know if I should count Smoker at Loguetown and Kuma in Sabaody as losses. And I can't remember if he lost to someone at Thriller Bark.
He lost at least 50 times each to Sabo and Ace.
@.access:
Turns out Takano has been an editor for about an year, so this being the first time he cried since he became an editor suddenly sounds less about the chapter being all that and more about him just crying easily. I mean, have you cried reading One Piece in the last year?
I actually did think the Onimaru flashback was the strongest emotional part of Wano.
It's a remix of Chou Chou, but not bad @cannon
I don't even remember who the hell that was ahaha.
The Benkei homage Gyukimaru, who is somehow actually a shapeshifting fox.
@.access:
Turns out Takano has been an editor for about an year, so this being the first time he cried since he became an editor suddenly sounds less about the chapter being all that and more about him just crying easily. I mean, have you cried reading One Piece in the last year?
Yes, chapter 967.
Croc or Enel would never.
Wanna see the "ancient civilization destroyed" thing done really well? FFXIV did a great take on it. The bar's high for One Piece to beat.
