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    • Gia Sado
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      This is great! Imo, because the Tobi Roppo were dropped here, im doubting a Beasts Pirates cover yet, unless Oda decides to separate the F6 from the Numbers, Calamities , which I can see.

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        So does the fact the flying six are there mean we won’t get a only villain’s cover with Kaido’s crew? Or will they just have them on another cover…., or maybe in there hybrid Zoan modes on that cover

        I think it means this arc has a ways to go.

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          I think it means this arc has a ways to go.

          Agreed. Still thinking like ~10 more chapters possibly for Act 3, then Act 4 may just be pure battles for 30 or 40 chapters. Im in the mindset that most of the final battles will take place on Mainland Wano and the sheer fact that Oda has so much to cover, not just with people at Onigashima, sort of points to that.

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            So does the fact the flying six are there mean we won’t get a only villain’s cover with Kaido’s crew? Or will they just have them on another cover…., or maybe in there hybrid Zoan modes on that cover

            Could say they don't count as they are all former captains and not really to loyal to the Beast Pirates/Marque members like the Calamities and such

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              The Tobo Roppos are really colorful, and Luffy's coat remaining black?? YESSS

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                @Lord:

                Could say they don't count as they are all former captains and not really to loyal to the Beast Pirates/Marque members like the Calamities and such

                That applies to everyone in the Beast Pirates, not just the Tobi Roppo. There's no loyalty in the crew, it's all held together exclusively by Kaido's power. Of course there's some variation, but that also applies to the Tobi Roppo. Ulti for example seems to really like Kaido.

                But anyways, even Robin was in the Baroque works cover.

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                  Love the cover, square pattern included.

                  About the villain and crew cover, my bets are on 99 and 100, while 98 will probably be Yamato-centered. Maybe with scabbards

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                    This cover does seem to have gone through some massive structure changes compared to others we've seen in the same process. No wonder it took so long.

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                      Oda really struggled with this one, but of all the possible outcomes in that video I think he went with the best (even though the original with the TR at front would have pleased my needs to see all their colors). I reeeeally like this cover, and that's coming from someone who rolls his eyes at the first sight of the LKL trio.

                      Human-skin Sasaki is something I wasn't expecting though. Neither flamboyant red Who's Who, but I approve it 100%.

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                        I guess this volume will be titled “Introducing the Tobi Roppo”, then?

                        Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

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                          woop, didn't notice human-skinned Sasaki, if anything I hope that doesn't stay like that.

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                            Why does Oda insist on making every arcs cast look like a bag of skittles?

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                              woop, didn't notice human-skinned Sasaki, if anything I hope that doesn't stay like that.

                              Same, but it looks like Oda hasn't done the skin tone adjustments he normally does on volumes anyway.

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                                Here's my prediction/fanart cover, going on the assumption that "Fighting Music" will be the title.

                                One Piece logo goes behind Apoo's hands but in front of Onigashima, making it look like the horns are coming out the sides. It'll probably need to be transparent like it was in volumes 70, 83, 88 and a few others for a good look.

                                Might eventually scan this so I can add the logo properly myself and fix up some of the bits that pain me like Luffy's janky face and Law's tiny head, but for now I think it gets the key ideas of the cover across.
                                https://i.imgur.com/PfW8UV3.jpg

                                Damn, your fanart prediction nailed it perfectly with the Worst Gen trio leading the cover, followed by the Tobi Roppo right behind them, and even Onigashima in top of it, well apparently Onigashima didn't make it to the final cover, but it's right there in the process.

                                It's kinda funny to think Oda hadn't taken so long if he had a sight of what you just did right there.

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                                  Same, but it looks like Oda hasn't done the skin tone adjustments he normally does on volumes anyway.

                                  I think Fisham skin would go more in coloring than skin tone adjustments. If Oda wasn't sure about Sasaki's skin color we probably would have seen it in the process like with his hair or Ulti's. Unless he just colors all humanoid the same in sketches, but that would be pretty weird (specially since) he's trying to figure out the rest of their coloring).

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                                    Honestly, I'm not a big fan of this cover. I would rather have Captain M's version of it depicting essentially the exact same characters (plus Apoo)!! But it's still nice to see Oda's drawing process. The Law and Kid wanking doesn't please me and I'd rather have the Tobi Roppo in full instead of just their faces stuck inside some squares.

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                                      @Chrior:

                                      Honestly, I'm not a big fan of this cover. I would rather have Captain M's version of it depicting essentially the exact same characters (plus Apoo)!! But it's still nice to see Oda's drawing process. The Law and Kid wanking doesn't please me and I'd rather have the Tobi Roppo in full instead of just their faces stuck inside some squares.

                                      The funny thing is that he started with having the Luffy-Kid-Law trio in squares with the Tobiroppo in front, essentially reversing the cover.

                                      I guess he wanted to emphasize the trio dynamic instead. I personally like how their captain coats contrast to each other with red, blue and black.

                                      Also, it seems Oda will never set on Law's hair color.

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                                        Apoo being on the cover would have insinuated some association with the F6. I am curious as to what he is though in terms of ranking. I'd assume just a headliner like Hawkins, but the guy reeled Hawkins and Kid in and tricked them. I don't believe he is a Number either.

                                        What's interesting is Oda didn't even give Apoo an introduction card like has for Hawkins and Drake, so we have no idea where he even falls in he BP hierarchy. Leads me to think Oda has something big planned with Apoo.

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                                          I like the cover. Very minimal.

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                                            Finally something at least for the cover of vol 97
                                            Law, Kid and Luffy
                                            Tobi Roppo (didn't expect for me)
                                            https://twitter.com/Eiichiro_Staff/status/1297732470775808001

                                            https://i.imgur.com/hoE5AQl.jpg

                                            ! https://i.imgur.com/NVuUSw4.jpg

                                            It just hit me. They look alike a lil. I know not all blood related Fishmen and Merfolk look alike. Franky vs Sasaki????????

                                            https://i.imgur.com/px2XEB4.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/NVuUSw4.jpg?1

                                            Haha, that's a great find!

                                            How would you bring it up in a possible Franky fight though? Why would any of them randomly talk about Kokoro?

                                            But I guess it's better than the racist Jinbe / Sasaki pairing.
                                            "Oh noes, who's going to fight the scary enemy fishman??!!"

                                            Everyone looks at Jinbe

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                                              How long ago did Oda begin drawing his color spreads and covers digitally?

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                                                How long ago did Oda begin drawing his color spreads and covers digitally?

                                                I dont think he ever has tbh. What you are seeing in the video is him sketching for placement and ideas. See the part where the drawings go from rough to automatically in Oda's style and finished looking? Thats when he goes back to Analog and scans the image. Then he uses digital again to test out colors, but once that is done then he colors again analog.

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                                                  @Monquito:

                                                  Damn, your fanart prediction nailed it perfectly with the Worst Gen trio leading the cover, followed by the Tobi Roppo right behind them, and even Onigashima in top of it, well apparently Onigashima didn't make it to the final cover, but it's right there in the process.

                                                  It's kinda funny to think Oda hadn't taken so long if he had a sight of what you just did right there.

                                                  I definitely overestimated Apoo a little but hey, happy and surprised to have hit so close with the rest! It's a shame Oda couldn't have kept Onigashima behind the title, but I guess with what he ended up going with down below it would have got way too busy.

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                                                    Final official colours!

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                                                      I love that cover. Especially after disliking the last 2

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                                                        Final official colours!
                                                        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgVc9_-UMAAsXsy?format=jpg&name=900x900

                                                        Law is so done with this shit lol

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                                                          Title is "My Bible" from chapter 984, which is not something I think anyone had guessed.

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                                                            So tobi roppo is actually the rainbow gang without indigo right!

                                                            Red for who's who
                                                            Orange for drake
                                                            Yellow for black maria
                                                            Green for sasaki
                                                            Blue for ulti
                                                            Violet for page one

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                                                              The final colors make the cover so much better.

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                                                                Honestly, other than Who's Who, the Tobi Roppo's colors are surprisingly low-key considering what we've been getting in Wano.

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                                                                  People said Queen is okama, but whos who looks more like okama then queen.

                                                                  https://imgur.com/MyjRSWw

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                                                                    It seems there will be a "One Piece special Omake Volume" in September 16th, but only a digital version :wub:

                                                                    Twitter: https://twitter.com/Mugiwara_23

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                                                                      @Sengokusgoat:

                                                                      Honestly, other than Who's Who, the Tobi Roppo's colors are surprisingly low-key considering what we've been getting in Wano.

                                                                      On the cover we can only see their heads and not their outfits. So I would rather wait for their full color scheme before I make a statement. But I must admit, I really like Who's Who red outfit and pink hair. I didn't like it, when the unfinished cover was posted, but now it looks so cool.

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                                                                        Black Maria horns are real but different from the ones that characterize Ulti and Page One (their covered mouths suggest to me that they shall be hybrid human/fishmen like Dellinger)… Maybe a new race?

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                                                                          Okay, this final version actually looks pretty nice. I can't not love Luffy in this cover. His pose is just damn great, coupled with his Buso-covered hand ready to strike plus a black captain's coat! How far our boy has come, he's truly starting to feel like a pirate emperor of the seas! And for once I think Oda nailed the colours of a group of characters (for the Tobi Roppo).

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                                                                            @Captain:

                                                                            Title is "My Bible" from chapter 984, which is not something I think anyone had guessed.

                                                                            Well we saw back in volume 90 and 92. Oda chose to name them "Sacred Marijoa" and "Introducing Komurasaki the Oiran" (she didn't even have much presence in the volume) when comparatively there were more suitable options.

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                                                                              @Nouryoku:

                                                                              Well we saw back in volume 90 and 92. Oda chose to name them "Sacred Marijoa" and "Introducing Komurasaki the Oiran" (she didn't even have much presence in the volume) when comparatively there were more suitable options.

                                                                              Sacred Marijoa isn't bad considering the whole volume is set there, but Oiran Komurasaki was definitely an odd pick. I know there's been other weird ones through the years as well. My Bible certainly isn't the first strange volume name and it probably won't be the last. You have to wonder what the thought process for these things is.

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                                                                                It's interesting that Black Maria's horns seem natural. She might actually be something altogether besides a human.

                                                                                Sasaki also looks better with seaweed hair.

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                                                                                  So what's the last chapter of the volume? 984 - My Bible or 985 - New Onigashima Project? I'm not a fan of either but maybe the latter is a better hook into the next volume.

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                                                                                    So what's the last chapter of the volume? 984 - My Bible or 985 - New Onigashima Project? I'm not a fan of either but maybe the latter is a better hook into the next volume.

                                                                                    Judging by the page count it is 10 chapters so 984 - My Bible.

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                                                                                      i don't get why oda is obsessed with groups having different colors.
                                                                                      how can every group have yellow, red, blue, purple, green hair, clothes etc?
                                                                                      it's too much imo

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                                                                                        i don't get why oda is obsessed with groups having different colors.
                                                                                        how can every group have yellow, red, blue, purple, green hair, clothes etc?
                                                                                        it's too much imo

                                                                                        Because he is obsessed with color and often talks about how colorful he's wanted to make Wano. This isn't even surprising, look at Doflamingo's crew and how ridiculous they looked, or the BMP's. Can't wait to see the Number's color schemes, its going to be ridiculous lol.

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                                                                                          It's interesting that Black Maria's horns seem natural. She might actually be something altogether besides a human.

                                                                                          Sasaki also looks better with seaweed hair.

                                                                                          Greg talked about that a few weeks ago: https://one-piece.com/special/greg/detail/20200708_1157.html?l=en

                                                                                          Honestly, they all seem like they could be a different race. Who's Who is a bit more ambiguous unless that helmet can be taken off with some method that's less awkward than I'm imagining.

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                                                                                            i don't get why oda is obsessed with groups having different colors.
                                                                                            how can every group have yellow, red, blue, purple, green hair, clothes etc?
                                                                                            it's too much imo

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                                                                                              i don't get why oda is obsessed with groups having different colors.
                                                                                              how can every group have yellow, red, blue, purple, green hair, clothes etc?
                                                                                              it's too much imo

                                                                                              The 4 emperor's crews are the most well rounded we've seen thus far and I imagine part of it is fun for Oda, and the other is making them more similar to Luffy's crew. The single members have higher ambition than say, most of the members of the Heart Pirates or the Foxy Pirates, and it's reflected in their individuality. With Kaido, he's broken their will and maybe the horns are a testament to that?

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                                                                                                Damn that really is kokoro green. Wonder if that was a conscious choice.

                                                                                                Black Maria's horns are kinda weird they look like feelers

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                                                                                                  i know hair color is important in anime and manga and helps identify chars, what i don't like is how ALL crew/group in the last years had this variety of colors.
                                                                                                  just a bit too much, considering how oda has kept on adding dozens of chars every saga

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                                                                                                    What do you mean 'ALL groups' and the 'last few years'.

                                                                                                    For example the Grand Fleet all have natural hair colors except Bartolomeo. Over half of the most prominent minks are blondes. You don't even have to get out of the Beast Pirates. Both Jack and Queen are blonde.

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                                                                                                      Last few years?
                                                                                                      Oda has been doing color variety in antagonistic groups since Alabasta.
                                                                                                      Actually, since Buggy's crew even. In 1997.

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                                                                                                        ! Im is actually an orange-skinned man with a blonde toupee

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