Since we're on break, let's see what everyone thinks happened in the last panels of Chapter 900: Badend Musical!
What happened to the Thousand Sunny?
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it's just cliffhanger used to bait dumb readers . if SHP crews could survive it, then so did the ship
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it's just cliffhanger used to bait dumb readers . if SHP crews could survive it, then so did the ship
Pretty much this.
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I checked "The ship was destroyed" but I think it'll be fixable (though with a massive redesign).
Purely coincidence
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These text replies being made to explain the bottom choice of course, just want to show why I didn't even consider putting "damaged but not destroyed" as an option:
Of course time will tell
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I checked "The ship was destroyed" but I think it'll be fixable (though with a massive redesign).
More or less my answer, choices given weren't exactly flexible lol
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Come to think of it, if it's really sunk and the Fishmen could get close again (maybe the water's cooled down or not hot deeper down where it's sinking to) maybe they could push the blasted-to-hell Sunny out to a safe place before re-emerging it with the crew, then kinda help push it to Wano. That's a pretty good/elaborate theory, but well, would be hard to fit into the choices even if they could be altered, lol
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Destroyed.
Fuck Wano, Luffy will go to pick his crew and travel to Elbaf, take down Yggdrasil and gotta make a new ship with his wood.
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I answer future sight.. but seem kinda off too.
Perhaps it's something like, ship destroyed but crew survived due to coating. -
A Nami asspull happened.
Or the ship is legitimately gone, either or.
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So you got:
Guy that just had long as battle just so he can train and learn to see the future.
And he can inflate his rubber body to stop cannonballs. Yet this won't be used for, what looks like, the end of their ship?
It could be nami too. 70% luffy, 30% nami?
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I voted for "destroyed" but really meaning "damaged".
I think Nami creating an illusion would work just fine, but Pudding or BM hallucinations don't.
It being a memory created by Pudding would be very convoluted in terms of presentation. It would mean we are seeing this chapter from the future, as someone (BM most likely) recalls how things ended. Then in the next chapter we would go back to the present and at some point we would also need to go to the point when Pudding alters everyone's memory to explain retroactively what happened now. Not to mention that she altering their memories then don't change the fact Germa, Sun Pirates and the SH would still need to find a way to go through their current predicament anyways, so we would need to go through it in the next chapter making the whole thing just a complete bad written mess.
BM hallucination wouldn't work because how could she hallucinate about those things? I mean, she is hallucinating alright, Carmel and the kids as angels and all that stuff, but the rest? How would she know the Germa kids were fighting against her pirates at Cacao Island? How would she know which kids were there fighting them (like the guy with the black gloves)? How would she know bullets that could harm the Germa were about to arrive at that point? How would she know Judge was not there, but at the coast? And that Snack was there to fight him and not somewhere else? Or about his bandages over the right eye? Or that Luffy couldn't stand by himself, all his bandages and was missing a tooth? Those kinds of inconsistencies are usually looked over by other writers, but I would expect Oda to do better than that.
But the Sunny actually being hit and the SH finally caught beyond salvation is what would work better. BM just ate the cake, we finally arrived at the point when we'll see Sanji's cooking saving everybody and for that to work as good as it can, everyone needs to be in complete shit. Having the BMP dominate the SH and all of them allies before BM steps in after Sanji managed to capture her heart with his cake would be the perfect way to both make the BMP remain a threat AND having Sanji abilities and personality traits be exalted (one of the core points of this whole arc).
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I checked "The ship was destroyed" but I think it'll be fixable (though with a massive redesign).
This , I checked other however.
The ship needed to be reworked to get more space anyway, so this is a good way to give a reason why the Sunny needs to be redesigned now.
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hmm,let's check them one by one
- Hallucination of Big Mom's : she has no way to know the recent developments (like chopper treating luffy for example) so she can't be the one imagining the entire strawhats scene
- Memory edit from Pudding: possible,but we saw how her memory rewriting powers work and it involves her moving around changing everyones memory, but we never saw her fly around since the beginningand in this chapter she is still at cacao island in an alley. That being said, what happened between her and sanji a couple of chapters ago is the one piece of the puzzle that we still don't have.
- Luffy future sight : much like with what happened a couple of chapters ago, that doesn't make any sense.
- Mirage from Nami: that's not how mirages work
- **The ship was destroyed:**if we have to take at face value this chaper, this would seem like the right choice, anything we can say against this option hinges on extra-manga reasoning
so…from this point of view the challenge seems to be between the pudding illusion of the destruction being real...the pudding option is the most disappointing and time wasting one,while the lattersmashes agi many things like franky's dream, how are they supposed to get away if all of this is real and whatnot.
basically, if i have to go for the most probable, i'd say pudding, even if there are many elements in the manga that go against this theory..if i have to say the one i would like, then it's all of this being real,but then oda would need to find a way to make them still escape and to rewrite some of franky's dream.
all in all,none of them are completely convincing.
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I voted something else. Why isn't Jimbe in the chibi-stamp of the cover page? Because he'll be officially welcomed to the colour pages as one of the straw hats after he saves the strawhats and friends by creating an air big bubble and taking them to a safer place once the Sunny got destroyed by the Queen Mama Chanter's shot.
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Of those options, I'd say it was destroyed, and they likely escaped via Nami controlling Zeus. Maybe it will be somewhat salvageable, but who knows. The other options just don't seem likely for stated reasons. Maybe mirage, but it would have to be used creatively and fast and we saw Nami freaking out.
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There is another option:
Sunny got hit, and has been heavily demaged but not destroyed. We are going to have a "Sunny moment" like the ones we got for the rest of the cast (except for Chopper obviously lol) during this escape.
The ship went underwater after being hit and struggles to come back up, but eventually it does and this gives the chance to the Strawhats to coup de burst the hell outta there.A stretch obviously but what of the other options already presented isn't? I think it would be more greceful too.
Anyway I'm going to wait a lil bit more before checking one of the options of the poll because two weeks are alot and I will change idea like every day.
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Yeah I'll just go with destroyed/damaged.
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While I do think everyone will ultimately be ok, I hope they got hit but the Sunny isn't beyond repair and they are essentially dead without intervention. So with that said I hope they took a massive hit, are under water but Big Mom orders their rescue. Though seems like there isn't enough time for that to happen, she would have to find out quite quickly that the great taste came from Sanji.
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Whatever happened, I don't believe it has been destroyed.
Would be very surprised if it was.
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I say this is Pudding's third eye ability that woke up in that moment. This or Brook's new attack called Bad End Musical.
Kill it with fire!!!
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I know it looks like the fishmen all got out of there before that moment but I'd bet a few of them were involved with saving the Sunny.
I don't believe the Sunny will be destroyed since it's the dream of one of the StrawHats.
Unlike Merry, which was simply a cool ship built by a friend of the crew, the Sunny was built by Franky and Franky himself stated that he built that ship to reach the end of the Grand Line and sail all of the world.
If the ship is destroyed now it's like if Laboon dies before Brook gets to met him again.
The ship will need heavy reaparings and possibly a bit of restructuring, the fact that there is Adam wood in Elbaf is a prime hint for such rework, but it can't be destroyed. -
The ship is already damaged too much, more damage and how is this going to travel from totland to wano, without franky?
And someone else, like germa, repairing the ship takes away from franky's role, since this is the biggest test the ship faced in many years.
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The ship is made from the strongest/best wood in the world, it's not gonna get destroyed.
Merry's problem was that its keel was broken, the Sunny's keel in not gonna break, the ship will survive.
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I say this is Pudding's third eye ability that woke up in that moment. This or Brook's new attack called Bad End Musical.
I was just thinking this! The Pudding part.
This ability should make pudding suffer though,
I'm betting for this. Just not my life or family or or my future ferarri
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My personal theory is that the Sunny was hit, but being made of the strongest wood it will survive.
Just like the sail was partly burned it is not unusual for the flag to fall off and land on the sea. That doesn't mean the whole ship was destroyed.Also, Franky could have the help of a woodworker clan fron Wano (maybe the same way Momonosuke's clan were legendary stone masons)
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Horribly damaged but not beyond repair. Franky's dream is for the Sunny to be that one ship to sail the entire world after all.
I think this option should be added.
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Horribly damaged but not beyond repair. Franky's dream is for the Sunny to be that one ship to sail the entire world after all.
I think this option should be added.
In the two replies I made, I showed a pic of the state of the Sunny as to why "damaged but not destroyed" wasn't considered for an option, and also mentioned the options can't be altered. Once set they're what they are to stay
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Here's mine:
The explosion hit not only sunny but several mama's small ship as well. The ruined ship we saw are those ships. Sunny is heavily damaged but still floating.
As for the guys, i have a vision that nami can create coating ball from her clima tact and so jinbe shove them all in there and take it underwater, temporarily abandoning ship.
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Why would they try to destroy it if they have them surrounded from all sides?
I'd think they would try to capture them first.
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Nothing happened to it.
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Why would they try to destroy it if they have them surrounded from all sides?
I'd think they would try to capture them first.
They've made it clear that they want them dead more than anything, especially after learning about Katakuri's defeat.
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Im thinking it's future sight on Lucy's end, i mean he did just unlock it monents ago ours too soon for it to be on the backburner already. Aside from that, pudding awakened her ability after being exposed to true love from sanji or something along those lines. She had been ridiculed her entire life and got genuine love and it was enough to push her over and can now manipulate memories of everyone in totoland from the side street.
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Ffs, I'd expect them to try to vent all that rage personally. Board the ship, beat them up, capture the survivors, beat them up some more, imprison them, let BM show the world what happens to her enemies, take their souls, use your imagination.
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Ffs, I'd expect them to try to vent all that rage personally. Board the ship, beat them up, capture the survivors, beat them up some more, imprison them, let BM show the world what happens to her enemies, take their souls, use your imagination.
They could've done that, but they attacked the ship first instead, so no need for imagination here.
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Do we even know that if its Big Mom speaking in the final panel?
It reminds me of the start of the arc when Reiju thanks Luffy before consuming the poison.
She also has a DF which hasn't shown up yet or at least elaborated upon.
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Do we even know that if its Big Mom speaking in the final panel?
It reminds me of the start of the arc when Reiju thanks Luffy before consuming the poison.
She also has a DF which hasn't shown up yet or at least elaborated upon.
Err, who else could it possibly be? She was the only speaking for the latter half of the chapter, and she's the only one eating anything lol
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Err, who else could it possibly be? She was the only speaking for the latter half of the chapter, and she's the only one eating anything lol
It could always be a red herring.
And Reiju's DF is a total mystery. Maybe it allows her to "eat" attacks?
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Do we even know that if its Big Mom speaking in the final panel?
It reminds me of the start of the arc when Reiju thanks Luffy before consuming the poison.
She also has a DF which hasn't shown up yet or at least elaborated upon.
It started with her unique laughter style, so yes.
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Ya know, I feel like I'm writing fanfiction, but I kind of want Pedro to revive from the dead via his Sulong form and save the crew. Like, he somehow manages to get up and fight for a few more minutes via the super strength of that form, assuming he was left in one piece after the explosion.
However, in my defense, I also just really want to see that form. He was killed literally chapters before we knew he could do that. If it's not now, it'll be never.
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It'll be like that Futurama episode where Fry goes full speed force from a hundred cups of coffee and saves everyone from that fire. Next chapter will be from Pedro's perspective, he goes sulong and time goes super slow for him while he rescues everyone from the sunny all mellow like and carries them to safety.
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Its who won Block D all over again, HOORAH!!!!
I bet one of the people attacking Judge will save the Straw Hats, cause Meadows or something.
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"Shambles."
Queen Mama Chanter gets cut in half.
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The Sunny will fuse with Carrot and enter into it's final form: The Thousand Bunny.
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-Nami and/or Brook created an illusion to keep the enemy thinking that they were destroyed so they could make a getaway without drawing further attention (or mount a sneak attack to help the Vinsmokes also get out of there safely)
-Sanji saw Reiju get shot up and released his dormant genes' power and the ship was actually engulfed in his flaming aura, which powered him up enough to kick some ass before they are ready to leave, and the fire is just obscuring the fact that the ship is fine except that the jolly roger got blasted off by a stray cannonball since it was furthest away from Sanj's aura
-The Sun Pirates dragged the ship under the water to avoid being shot up and just the top bit of the ship got damaged and set on fire
-The ship did get shot up and the Fishman are rapidly repairing all the holes and whatnot while down there to keep it from totally sinking, long enough to send it on its way so Franky can repair it properly
-The ship is indeed scuttled and the Sun Pirates are going to join together to carry it across the surface of the water all the way to Wano and join the Heart/Straw Hat/Mink/Samurai/other interested parties' alliance in the conflict going on there, while Franky upgrades the ship to integrate it into becoming a bigger, better version of the Shogun
-The ship has some emergency defense mechanism or self-repair switch that can (to a limited extent) reduce or prevent fire damage and/or replace damaged parts with spare wood kept in storage below decks
-Someone has the DF ability to reverse the damage and will after the fact OR will have brought the necessary parts for repairing and will do a temporary fix long enough to get them where they're going
