Hiatus x Hiatus III: Goodnight, Sweet Princes

maxterdexter

I don't think the problem is the dialogue, I just think some of the subplots are just plain boring.

Nah, Kurapika's whole plot is the one that gets walled off. Fugetsu's great escape had almost no walls and was interesting. Price's bateman king crimson moment was.. serviceable, and had half of a wall. Prince 9 the "good" awakening was cool while it happened, and it moved fast, until Benjamin tried to stall the plot with exposition.

At least my main gripe is seeing people going over puzzles that we already know the answer.

SunnyBlue

Togashi has an annoying habits of introducing subplots that doesn't get a proper payout & ultimately doesn't matter in the long run.
Back in the election arc, there was this subplot about those 3 hunters who wanted to reform the hunter amendment or something along the line. They were trying to stop Illumi from reaching Killua. Ultimately, they got offscreened & nobody really care that they literally die.
The whole succession war plot & its related plot is pretty much that. It doesn't matter at all because Kakin will most likely be in ruins after this arc.
When Togashi finally got bored of introducing random #143 & another sub-subplot, he is going to throw in something that will wiped out 99% of the people on the ships.

MajinArekkusu

Guess I am just gonna wait till this arc is fully done and they reached the dark continent to read through it in 5 years or so. Cause I know I will forget half the shit anyway till then if I read it now.

maxterdexter

Chapter's out in mangastream, can't post link right now.

At least the mafia people take action instead of monologuing.

Razh

I'll do the honors then.

https://readms.net/r/hunter_x_hunter/390/5492/1

SunnyBlue

We had King Crimson now we have Golden Experience. I think Jojo Part 5 is Togashi favourite part.
It's a bit refreshing to see some actions scene instead of endless monologue from these bunch of jobbers.
The abilities are pretty neat tbh.

Sakonosolo

I like the power of literally beating answers out of someone. Shame about the hiatus. Maybe this chapter was just an anomaly but it looks like it's getting good.

Blissed

I liked this chapter towards the end. But alas, the hiatus is a cruel mistress.

Razh

@Sakonosolo:

I like the power of literally beating answers out of someone. Shame about the hiatus. Maybe this chapter was just an anomaly but it looks like it's getting good.

Yeah, really creative take. Wonder if she needs to be hit first as an activation condition, or something. Find it a little hard to believe that she would be taken by surprise like that, since she' obviously a better fighter.

The other dude could use his ability well even without bleeding. He could harden his arms with increased blood flow. I think some martial arts do that with arm swinging, Bagua maybe?

He doesn't look like much of a practitioner, though.

Nidhoeggr

On Page 5 in the MS translation the third Prince said he has lost three siblings.. how does he know Kacho died? Did the translator make a mistake or is even Togashi losing track of everything that is happening?

glass

I like how there's "Consider all possibilities before I use Predator" guy and on the opposite side of the spectrum you have "I bet this coin goes in the nen beasts mouth because it looks like a slot. But it would be to risky to try force feed the nen beast."

SunnyBlue

Looking closely at this chapter, Togashi and his assistants aren't even trying to get the artwork to blend seamless.lol
Normally, I can overlook it but it's particularly jarring in this chapter.
Just look at the bottom panel.
https://readms.net/r/hunter_x_hunter/390/5492/12

Cyclone_Baroness

@SunnyBlue:

Looking closely at this chapter, Togashi and his assistants aren't even trying to get the artwork to blend seamless.lol
Normally, I can overlook it but it's particularly jarring in this chapter.
Just look at the bottom panel.
https://readms.net/r/hunter_x_hunter/390/5492/12

Is it jarring cause of the mass amount of detail?

Kaworu

@RedGreenBlue:

Are they really worse?

In my opinion, this is just as terrible, though it’s on the other side of the storytelling spectrum.

It’s like how you can find crazy people who are completely uneducated, and then also absolute kooks with degrees popping out of their asses.

Early Bleach and early Naruto are both really good. But yeah if you're talking about a post Yammy Espada 0 (that's the moment Bleach really fell off for me, wasn't Soul Society level but still entertaining) Bleach or a later Naruto, both are way worse in my opinion.

I do get that criticism though, that HxH swings the pendulum the complete other way and has become pompous. I skip dialogue if they trail off because… if I'm just getting another 10 Succession War chapters after this, I don't really care. For me to invest in something, I have to see that the payoff is worth it, usually. Soooo I need to see that Togashi's actually gonna deliver some steak after this long course of appetizer followed by hour long break followed by appetizer followed by hour long break, rinse and repeat. I mean it's still interesting enough, but I have a feeling all of this gigantic buildup and text is just not going to matter that much in the big picture. We'll see, I could be surprised.

Razh

@SunnyBlue:

Looking closely at this chapter, Togashi and his assistants aren't even trying to get the artwork to blend seamless.lol
Normally, I can overlook it but it's particularly jarring in this chapter.
Just look at the bottom panel.
https://readms.net/r/hunter_x_hunter/390/5492/12

Yeah, it's funny how the background characters and objects have more detail than foreground ones. ^^

RedGreenBlue

Come on, guys. It’s just that all the foreground characters were wearing really light colors!

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@Razh:

Yeah, it's funny how the background characters and objects have more detail than foreground ones. ^^

Also, this is super accurate lately, because every character that gets exposition out the wazoo (kurapika aside) is only secondary to the main characters.

Brainyz

Really liked the latest chapter, not because of the little bit of action it had, although it was nice to see. But what really sold me on the content was Togashi showcasing the powers visually, and even though he couldn't stop himself from spoon-feeding the readers the powers by writing them in info boxes few panels later, at least those info boxes weren't as bloated as what they could've been.
The chapter also had plenty of progression with a clear shift in narrative as the Xi-Yu mafia is for the first time taking action towards getting rid of Morena herself.
And while there are even more characters introduced, the members of the Xi-Yu mafia aren't a bothersome addition at all, at least they were nicely designed, were few, and were somewhat expected unlike Cammy's personal guards that came out of nowhere.

Purple Hermit

Until next time

RoboBlue

It's that time again.

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Ivotas

Hell, yeah! It's been too long! So looking forward to the next batch of chapters.

Chrior

I seriously thought this moment would never come again. I can't remember a damn thing about the "current arc" at this point.

pariston_hill

@Chrior good think I got the latest 2 volumes of the pt reprint last week.

kouch_lee

The mangaplus app allows you to read an entire series, but only one time per chapter. This would be a great time to use that!

Except, the mangaplus's license doesn't allow you to read HxH beyond the first and last three.

What the hell. Why?

I don't want to re-read the scanlations, my brain CAN'T comprehend the scanlations of the last two arcs, and I wanted a go at the official translations to see if shit made sense during the monumentally wordy stuff.

desa

@kouch_lee said in Hiatus x Hiatus III: Goodnight, Sweet Princes:

The mangaplus app allows you to read an entire series, but only one time per chapter. This would be a great time to use that!

Except, the mangaplus's license doesn't allow you to read HxH beyond the first and last three.

What the hell. Why?

I don't want to re-read the scanlations, my brain CAN'T comprehend the scanlations of the last two arcs, and I wanted a go at the official translations to see if shit made sense during the monumentally wordy stuff.

I believe the viz app has them all if that helps

Seafarer33

@RoboBlue Heh. I've so much ran out of expectations for Hiatus x Hiatus that I saw the ad on Mangaplus earlier today and genuinely thought it was about My Hero Academia (I blame the dark-green hair -.-)

Anyway, looking forward to the chapters. All 4 of them. If we're lucky there could be less than 10,000 words per page.

TLC

Here's what will happen. Togashi is going to rush the story and kill off a bunch of characters in this inheritance arc because he is long bored of them and wants to spice up interest. People will praise it as a genius masterstroke of a move that was clearly long planned and a brilliant subversion of the shonen genre. He will then pump out a volume or two until he gets bored and lazy again, invent a bunch of meaningless characters and subplots that will go around in circles and have pages and pages of walls of text monologues that will belabour the same point over and over because that's far easier to do than actually telling a story and then go back to another hiatus where the cycle will repeat itself again.

Okay? Cool.

pariston_hill

And here's why we don't let the thread open.

Cockycent

The return of the real. Manga/anime gawds keep blessing me. I always enjoy rereading this manga. Usually catch up by his 4th release.

Ivotas

@pariston_hill said in Hiatus x Hiatus III: Goodnight, Sweet Princes:

And here's why we don't let the thread open.

One might think thread bans would be a good idea.

Sakonosolo

Considering Togashi is posting shit he's drawing on Twitter we'll see if he's able to become even semi-regular with releases. Or if he's just going to drop another 10 (maybe 20) chapters and then disappear for another year or more.

TLC

@Ivotas said in Hiatus x Hiatus III: Goodnight, Sweet Princes:

@pariston_hill said in Hiatus x Hiatus III: Goodnight, Sweet Princes:

And here's why we don't let the thread open.

One might think thread bans would be a good idea.

You are free to like what you like as I am free to dislike what I dislike.

I don't see why you have to go so far as asking for members to get booted from a thread for the sacrilege of pointing out what has happened many, many, times before.

Don't worry, I have no plans to rain on anyone's parade, my apathy for this series at this point is immeasurable. I said my piece on the big return and I am done. You can enjoy your little echo chamber of positivity to your hearts' content. I don't intend on ruining things for anyone.

Just don't get mad at me if what I predicted comes to pass.

I'm only speaking from experience given the mangaka's track record. I would be happy if I were wrong.

I doubt I will be but who knows.

Peace.

Ivotas

@TLC
It's one thing to dislike something while voicing valid critisism and a whole different thing to come out and continously antagonize the members that enjoy what they get.

And you definitely fall into the latter category, because you just seem unable to critisize this story without throwing out jabs at readers who enjoy the series, when you say stuff like"people will praise it as a genius masterstroke". This is not a rare exception. It has been your MO in HxH threads for years. And this is exactly the nonesense that invites an unhealthy discussion in this thread in the first place. Statements like these add absolutely nothing of value to your argument. If you have a point to prove do it without antagonizing people.

Dislike the series as much as you want. But if you're unable to tone your antagonism down and keep using language like "genius masterstroke" and "echo chamber" which is not a jab at the story but at the members here, then I am just as free to consider the attitude you put at display to be a detrement to a healthy discussion.

KageKageKing

Are we still doing that weird rule where the first member who tries to predict how far will this next batch of chapter goes is going to receive all the blame for when the series goes into hiatus again?

pariston_hill

@TLC I don't doubt that. The Miura situation most likly pushed Togashi to find an end for HxH, that will not be what everyone expects or enjoys.

He will probably do most of what you said, finish Kurapika's story having prince Bateman have the remaining eyes; put Kurapika in the mist of Hisoka and the Troupe battle Royale. Arrest Monkey and foil Pariston plans and have an open end with the beginning of the Dark Continent expedition.

Can I say most of the fans will find such resolution good? Probably not. Will we have the annoying Togashi fanboys doing mental gymnastics to call him a genius? Yes.

Like you said, you're fed up with the manga and mangaka. I just don't see why come to a thread of manga you dislike just to rip on it. I'm fed up with Kubo and Kishimoto, or heck even Toriyama, I don't go to those threads to shit in whatever is being done there.

You have your critics and you can voice them, I just don't see why do it only because we have an announcement of return. Like, at least wait the first chapter of this batch and say bye to it.

Razh

It's an entertaining read at the least. I'm just grateful we can enjoy some more madness and subsequent discussions. Will it be 10 chapters, or 20 chapters or even more? Hard to care at this point. Just beating a dead horse by being salty about it.

Alfiere

Togashi has now to draw while lying down due to how bad his back situation got. Like or dislike his output content or quality, but to insist calling him "lazy" at this point is just petty.

I for one am glad that once in a while he comes back and delivers something that, for better or worse, at least stands out for uniqueness and courage in trying new things with the medium.

Ivotas

An interesting discussion to be had would be if the entire Miura situation had something to do with making HxH return now. Not to say it couldn't have come back by itself, but I'd be surprised if Shueisha is completely clueless as to what has been going on there and considering further possibilities on how to publish HxH inspired by what's going on with Berserk now. They are a big company after all. Letting opportunities to make more money go is not something they usually do.

zeltrax225

@TLC first of all, he doesn't owe you shit. He even said to consider Gon's meeting with Ging as one way to close the story off and he knows he will never wrap up the story satisfactorily even to himself. Even if whatever you go on about comes true, I want you to know that the only thing that you'll walk out of it is showing how much you enjoy the sound of your own voice/words and the only pat on the back you'll get is from yourself.

It's not even the publicity or the money or whatever your apathetic mindset conjures, the man can't even sit upright long enough to draw without feeling pain and has difficulty with daily life. If he wants to close the series or end it abruptly, he deserves to be able to do that without the backlash from people who have never come close to his situation and never will, in their lives.

You and most people are a consumer, you are not a fan, I don't even care if you once were because if you are and with enough, I don't know, thought? You would have realize the circumstances is not hurr durr dragon quest meme that is happening to him. On what basis does it make you "Happy" if he proves you wrong, as if there is any obligation or expectation you are entitled to, jesus, that fucking high horse.

Before anyone point me out on the whole relationship and expectations between a reader/consumer/customer and a service/product, this situation is different.

Ivotas

And this dear friends is exactly why I made my original post in the first place. We could have used our time until the first chapter to discuss what we hope to see in the next batch of chapters, what we think might happen or even stuff like what I said about the Miura situation. But nope, all it takes is one guy to antagonize readers who are looking forward to already sour this reopening of this thread. So yeah, thread bans in these situations don't strike me as an unjustified proposition at all.

Alfiere

It's too late to try and turn this into a best prince discussion?

It's pothead prince for me by the way.

Lord Gaimon

Halkenburg is gonna win it

Johnny B. Decent

@Alfiere Yikes. Maybe he should retire?

Razh

Thread ban for something so meager? Please...

I only care about Furykov ^^

Oh and kinda excited to see how Morena's little game with her followers blows up into a shipwide panic and chaos.

Ivotas

@Razh said in Hiatus x Hiatus III: Goodnight, Sweet Princes:

Thread ban for something so meager? Please...

Nah, not just for that but rather for the fact that this is the only thread that keeps getting closed and reopened all the time. I know, I know, the series is on a hiatus most of the time. But do we really have to close it everytime? Why not leave it open like every other dormant respectively finished series? Because it invites unhealthy discussion. And I don't think that "kill the patient because the dead don't get sick" is an ideal approach.

I apologize if this comes across as case of backseat modding. It's not that I want to go on a crusade against specific members. But there has to be a better approach to handle such situations than to punish us all. Closing the thread just feels wrong.

wolfwood

Dunking on HxH at this point is a bit like kicking in an open door

Razh

@Ivotas the thread ends up closed not just because people complain about breaks, but also because people choose to react to those posts.

For example, my post you replied to has 3 lines. 1 addressed the thread ban issue and 2 addressed the plot...

Ivotas

@Razh
That's actually the point I'm making. People will get annoyed at this and rightfully so. And just ignoring the person who spreads unconstructive negativity doesn't help because one would still get the countless replies it generates.

I get the point you're making. But in reality it just doesn't work for every single person to just let unconstructive nonesense slide. And truth be told, one should not let that slide because if there's nobody to push back then we're pretty much inviting stuff like this to run rampart here. Critisizing the series for it's obvious is nothing anybody should fear doing here. But unconstructive trashtalk has to be pushed back against. And closing a thread strikes me as a wrong way to accomplish that.

black-leg jex

I for one will welcome any plotlines being wrapped up in this bulk of chapters. I just want Hunter x Hunter to have an ending at this point. It doesn't need to be the best ending, it just needs to actually complete its story.

Cinder

Something surreal about seeing HxH updated in the viz app. I'm looking forward to what kind of a banger chapter 400 will be.

Addressing the elephant in the room - It's fine to disagree with someone's take, just give your point and move on unless the instigator continues to engage. It's ironic to see the difference in how people handle discourse for other series. Action can be taken if things grow incredibly disruptive, so just move on.

.access timeco.

If someone cross an updated version of that 4chan summary, post it here please.
I depended on that when the hiatuses were 1 year long, now I don’t even remember the character faces.