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    Hiatus x Hiatus III: Goodnight, Sweet Princes

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      @AfroSamurai:

      Unlike in GoT, where the only thing that's been "glacial" is the weather. Everything else seems to be a fiery dragon themed rollercoaster that mostly goes faster than fast, and sometimes magically teleports people and boats without rhyme or reason, with an extra dash of forced romance whenever it stops for a breather.

      Well, yeah. S7 has more in common with Jacksons LORT adaptation than s1-4

      Originally Posted by Monkey King

      I want everyone to note, in about ten minutes of time, a Bosnian, a Saudi Arabian, an American, and a Brazilian all sat around millions of miles away from eachother discussing rubber pirate comic books from Japan.

      You've all had your 21st Century moment for the day, carry one.

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        @Cyclone_Baroness:

        I have been super bored with this arc so far. I'm not even fully reading all the dialogue anymore lol.

        You know what you're absolutely right, I just don't pay attention to Hunter x Hunter at all and I'm super bored.

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          Until now the high stakes and the fact that something is always happening is enough to keep the tension up. I just think Togashi should put a little bit more attention on disguising the fact that most of the inner dialog reads like transcripts from boardroom discussions (which he likely actually has with his assistants).

          "You either die a villain, or live long enough to see yourself become the hero." - Vegeta, Hero Slayer Garou, most MLP villains etc.

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            Togashi should try to summarize a fuck ton of these dialogues, and actually give us some more development each chapter. I don't mind having some dialogue heavy chapters, but if every single one of them are like this, and we literally go nowhere with any of them, it becomes a problem.

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              I guess I must be in the minority of folks who are loving this arc. So much tension with everyone playing 3-dimensional chess, lol. And now we got two cases of 'who dunnit?!' in the circumstances surrounding Momoze and Barigen's deaths.

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                Slow-paced stories with lots of dialog have been the norm in HXH for a very long time. The Ant Arc spent NINE YEARS being published.

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                  The ant arc spent three years being published and 6 years not being published. And it got through most of it in the first two years before the hiatuses started and had a lot of action in that time. It was pretty much only the conclusion raid that got stretched out, and that was pretty action heavy.

                  Whereas this boat arc has been nothing but talking and setup for 30 chapters… that happen to have been hiatused. Even if it was coming out without breaks that would be a ridiculous ammount of time for nothing to be happening... it's probably why we randomly had the Hisoka/Chrollo fight out of nowhere. Randomly.

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                    Well, we spent 7chapters on the most anticipated fight of the manga.

                    Which included a lot of talking and BS but most anticipated nonetheless.

                    Every nation gets the government it deserves.–-- Joseph de Maistre

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                      Most anticipated yes. But out of nowhere. No context, no anything. Just suddenly "hey you know, this boat stuff has been pretty boring right, well, suddenly, we're actually watching this super fight happen, guys!!!!1"

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                        I'm enjoying the current arc, even if the complaints are true they've more or less always been true.
                        HxH has almost always been simultaneously hair pullingly frustrating, and edge of your seat suspenseful. And always way way way more wordy then needed.
                        I think it might suffer worse in online translation as a result than most shonen or even seinen too, I recall parts that were excruciating online in earlier arcs reading much better in the Viz versions.
                        Most online translators don't have any uh…ear for prose lets say. They're translators, not writers.
                        Not that Togashi still doesn't need to be beat over the head with the "SHOW DON'T TELL" stick real bad though.

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                          HxH is not a light-hearted manga for kids. End of story. Ever red a book? It's like to read a good spy novel with a bunch of images…I like everything of it.

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                            Most anticipated yes. But out of nowhere. No context, no anything. Just suddenly "hey you know, this boat stuff has been pretty boring right, well, suddenly, we're actually watching this super fight happen, guys!!!!1"

                            While it was out of nowhere, I have to disagree with it being there cause the rest is boring due to the fact that

                            1. with 10 chapters released a year, the gain from it is small;
                            2. it's obvious set up for Hisoka/Chrollo shenanigans during the boat arc, it wasn't pointless fanservice or anything like this.

                            All hail Machvise-sama, Arlong Park Character Tournament 2016 Champion!

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                              Well, the fight was pointless plotwise. It didn't set anything because Hisoka was hunting Chrollo anyway

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                                Well, the fight was pointless plotwise. It didn't set anything because Hisoka was hunting Chrollo anyway

                                And Hisoka could have killed those Spiders and angered Chrollo even without their match.

                                The fight itself will only be relevant if the experience helps Hisoka defeat Chrollo later on.

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                                Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                  The fight itself will only be relevant if the experience helps Hisoka defeat Chrollo later on.

                                  Which is probably what will happen in the future. But it still came out of absolutely nowhere and accomplished nothing plotwise. It was mostly fanservice to break up the flow of the arc a bit.

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                                    The fight was gonna happen, we all knew that but more introduction would have been welcome.

                                    And let's not forget that Kurapika was supposed to get a memo once Chrollo would have got rid of JudgmentChain

                                    Every nation gets the government it deserves.–-- Joseph de Maistre

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                                      HxH is not a light-hearted manga for kids. End of story. Ever red a book? It's like to read a good spy novel with a bunch of images…I like everything of it.

                                      Nonsense. The truest love of HxH is also punctuated by a desire to strangle it.
                                      It is a sinner and a saint at once, retarded and brilliant at the same time, lazy and laborious both.

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                                        Without the excessive text in HxH it is nothing more than a sloppily dream manga with some good characters and plot. Probably more of a confused OPM or Mob. Through the text is where we get the world building and even character development. Now I don't believe that this is a good way to go about it, but Togashi makes it work. I personally look forward to reading these chapters even if I do get annoyed with how much I have to read compared to just taking in what I'm looking at.

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                                          http://www.anime-now.com/entry/2017/09/12/230058

                                          ^Fun fact about Togashi being lazy; apparently he has had back-pains since Yu Yu Hakusho's publication.

                                          (I hope this manga gets scanlated)

                                          @Monkey King, I'm not quite sure what you mean by "HxH is both great and terrible" because many lone artists seem to have their indulgent tendencies, where they lose sight of what the audience cares about. Most art isn't perfect anyway, but I'm curious what dramatically bad flaws in HxH you see.

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                                            Nonsense. The truest love of HxH is also punctuated by a desire to strangle it.
                                            It is a sinner and a saint at once, retarded and brilliant at the same time, lazy and laborious both.

                                            I'll let the dude answer for me

                                            Retarded and brilliant…and with retarded I imagine you refer to Gon, typical pure heart character present in most Japanese works and prototype of classical oriental hero. I would appreciate if people especially from US could stop using that word because totally inappropriate.

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                                              @Matuzalem:

                                              I'll let the dude answer for me

                                              https://images.angelpub.com/2017/17/43589/the-dude.jpg

                                              Retarded and brilliant…and with retarded I imagine you refer to Gon, typical pure heart character present in most Japanese works and prototype of classical oriental hero. I would appreciate if people especially from US could stop using that word because totally inappropriate.

                                              No he's not referring to Gon -.-" He's probably referring to the utterly abysmal pacing and the ultra excessive wordiness of the manga, especially with regards to issues that quite frankly have no bearing on the plot whatsoever, or could be easily explained in a couple panels through the use of drawings.

                                              But do correct me if I'm wrong, MK.

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                                                I'll always remember one of the hiatus end, that was used to explain the workings of the underground elevator for ikarugo to defeat lobster guy. The plan failed. ?

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                                                  HxH is good and bad, what profound insights in here^^
                                                  Like everything that generates opinions from different people, each aspect can be viewed in a positive or negative way.
                                                  HxH is the perfect grey area for manga enthusiasts, everyone can find something to enjoy in it´s story, but undeniably it could be handled way better by it´s mangaka.

                                                  Unrevealed_Loki/Rocks/Im-san_

                                                  IslandElbaf/Raftel/GodValley

                                                  UnresolvedWeevil´s plan/Explaining DFs/Deal with Kuma-Bonney´s past/Joy-Boy/Zunisha´s story/Rocks flashback/Void Century/Rioponeglyph/Uranus/the D.clan

                                                  DFWind/Metal/Acid/Liquid/Time-Stop

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                                                    Honestly the hiatuses aren't doing him any favors. It allows the readers to actually look into each chapter, and just see how bad it's gotten.

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                                                      @Matuzalem:

                                                      Retarded and brilliant…and with retarded I imagine you refer to Gon, typical pure heart character present in most Japanese works and prototype of classical oriental hero. I would appreciate if people especially from US could stop using that word because totally inappropriate.

                                                      No I am referring to the literal manga itself.
                                                      Also I would appreciate if people especially from Italy could stop using the word "oriental" because it is totally inappropriate.

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                                                      HxH is good and bad, what profound insights in here^^
                                                      Like everything that generates opinions from different people, each aspect can be viewed in a positive or negative way.
                                                      HxH is the perfect grey area for manga enthusiasts, everyone can find something to enjoy in it´s story, but undeniably it could be handled way better by it´s mangaka.

                                                      No you don't understand at all.
                                                      The cons mix interchangeably with the pros, and mix together until down is up and up is down and you have no idea what is bad or good anymore. You just know you're obsessed.

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                                                        @Monkey:

                                                        No you don't understand at all.
                                                        The cons mix interchangeably with the pros, and mix together until down is up and up is down and you have no idea what is bad or good anymore. You just know you're obsessed.

                                                        Togashi the dealer keeps us addicted to his stretched drugs.

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                                                        UnresolvedWeevil´s plan/Explaining DFs/Deal with Kuma-Bonney´s past/Joy-Boy/Zunisha´s story/Rocks flashback/Void Century/Rioponeglyph/Uranus/the D.clan

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                                                          @Matuzalem:

                                                          I'll let the dude answer for me

                                                          https://images.angelpub.com/2017/17/43589/the-dude.jpg

                                                          Retarded and brilliant…and with retarded I imagine you refer to Gon, typical pure heart character present in most Japanese works and prototype of classical oriental hero. I would appreciate if people especially from US could stop using that word because totally inappropriate.

                                                          Do non-Asian people actually use that word?
                                                          The only times I've seen it used are at Chinese restaurants.

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                                                            It seems some people come on this thread only when the manga goes on hiatus

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                                                              @Monkey:

                                                              No I am referring to the literal manga itself.
                                                              Also I would appreciate if people especially from Italy could stop using the word "oriental" because it is totally inappropriate.

                                                              In his defence, it's probably down to poor english skills. In italian saying 'Asiatico' is less correct that 'Orientale' when discussing 'themes' rather than 'race', hence the tendency to go for 'oriental' in English. In Italy it doesn't have the negative connotations it has in english, it's an innocent mistake.

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                                                                Oriental has a bad connotation in english? That I would never have guess.

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                                                                  The term 'Oriental' is outdated, but is it racist?
                                                                  It's probably just a thing in the US

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                                                                    @Nilitch:

                                                                    It seems some people come on this thread only when the manga goes on hiatus

                                                                    I personally just come when the current batch is all out. But yes it does amusingly seem that way.

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                                                                      Oriental has a bad connotation in english? That I would never have guess.

                                                                      It's lightly racist… but in like an ancient way that means it doesn't really have any venom to it. Like something you'd include in a joke about an out of touch old person.
                                                                      See also: Chinaman.

                                                                      tldr: I'm taking the piss out of Chrollo Di Veneto.

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                                                                        It's lightly racist… but in like an ancient way that means it doesn't really have any venom to it. Like something you'd include in a joke about an out of touch old person.
                                                                        See also: Chinaman.

                                                                        tldr: I'm taking the piss out of Chrollo Di Veneto.

                                                                        Chinaman is kind of great though.

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                                                                          Fun little post about a former assistant talking about Togashi http://www.anime-now.com/entry/2017/09/12/230058

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                                                                            Wonder how much Togashi paid him to spout that nonsense 🆒

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                                                                              @Monkey:

                                                                              It's lightly racist… but in like an ancient way that means it doesn't really have any venom to it. Like something you'd include in a joke about an out of touch old person.
                                                                              See also: Chinaman.

                                                                              tldr: I'm taking the piss out of Chrollo Di Veneto.

                                                                              Its analogous to saying afro american in my eyes lol

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                                                                                So the gist I got here was the mangaka was a "lazy ass" but I checked his hiatus status for yu yu hakusho and only took 1 break in 168 chapters so yeah this dude hit that senioritis (the High school kind ) stage midway through it looks like

                                                                                Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:

                                                                                So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?

                                                                                H x H Chimera Ant Arc / OP Manga Spoiler

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                                                                                  So the gist I got here was the mangaka was a "lazy ass" but I checked his hiatus status for yu yu hakusho and only took 1 break in 168 chapters so yeah this dude hit that senioritis (the High school kind ) stage midway through it looks like

                                                                                  Yeah but then he permanently ended YYH suddenly and abruptly with a super rushed out of nowhere ending that didn't even fill out an entire volume… so the last volume of the series had to be super padded with sketches to fill it out.

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                                                                                    Yeah but then he permanently ended YYH suddenly and abruptly with a super rushed out of nowhere ending that didn't even fill out an entire volume… so the last volume of the series had to be super padded with sketches to fill it out.

                                                                                    Not that it forgives the issue but isnt yyh a lot less important plot-wise than HxH

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                                                                                      May i suggests a change of the thread's title to "Hiatus X Hiatus III: Sensitive people only"??

                                                                                      Oii!! Togashi has assistants? I read that he didn't want any… and for sure, Shueisha accepted, because money talks.
                                                                                      That attitude to only spend money when he's coerced to, ja! i must say i understand him, and for sure like pretty much his attitude towards companies, no one gives you anything for free ;_;

                                                                                      Thanks for the link, Black Leg.

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                                                                                      knowledge about it can't be communicated to others. Even if it can be communicated, it cannot be understood.

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                                                                                        We've been over this Shobu. There is a line, and if it's a racially offensive term then that's a no.

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                                                                                          http://www.anime-now.com/entry/2017/09/12/230058

                                                                                          ^Fun fact about Togashi being lazy; apparently he has had back-pains since Yu Yu Hakusho's publication.

                                                                                          (I hope this manga gets scanlated)

                                                                                          @Monkey King, I'm not quite sure what you mean by "HxH is both great and terrible" because many lone artists seem to have their indulgent tendencies, where they lose sight of what the audience cares about. Most art isn't perfect anyway, but I'm curious what dramatically bad flaws in HxH you see.

                                                                                          Note how the "overworked" and "couldn't move" by the assistant, turned to "Togashi always had backpains". I bet that in the actual chapter the assistant never even talks about Togashi having a backpain problem and just that instance where he overworked, but still worked.

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                                                                                            Well yeah, of course Togashi has assistants now. You can see the huge dramatic shift in quality for backgrounds thirty chapters back. It's really, really obvious.

                                                                                            However many assistants he may or may not have had in the past, he definitely started having them at the start of this arc. ANy shots of that whale boat, detailed backgrounds, ziptone, or lots of tiny people (especially the Hisoka fight) were assistant work.

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                                                                                              Togashi will take a short break from the hiatus to have the manga return on January 29.

                                                                                              The Jump TOC has just been released on Mangahelpers :

                                                                                              50周年記念プロジェクト ・実力派作家による新作読切 ・新連載&ハンタ再開
                                                                                              ハンタ再開 = Hunter X Hunter resuming !

                                                                                              https://mangahelpers.com/forum/posts/4656668/
                                                                                              Hxh will be back on January 29 in #09 according to Heiji. https://mangahelpers.com/forum/posts/4656673

                                                                                              Eh, fuck it.

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                                                                                                Praise the kami who art in tenshi.

                                                                                                Now lets just hope this batch is better than the last 10 chapters of snorefest…

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                                                                                                  @AfroSamurai:

                                                                                                  Praise the kami who art in tenshi.

                                                                                                  Now lets just hope this batch is better than the last 10 chapters of snorefest…

                                                                                                  I'm not that hopeful about that. My mood regarding HxH for now is "the canon storyline ended with Gon meeting Ging and everything happening now is… something else". Let's see where it goes, but the pace is miserable so far.

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                                                                                                    I'm not that hopeful about that. My mood regarding HxH for now is "the canon storyline ended with Gon meeting Ging and everything happening now is… something else". Let's see where it goes, but the pace is miserable so far.

                                                                                                    I mean… The Ging and Pariston teamup was really cool. The flashback bits to netero in the dark continent were awesome. Hisoka vs Kuroro Lucirufueru were fun and visually interesting, if a little long winded. The reveals of the royal family members' nen beasts is a visually stunning.

                                                                                                    It's just... a lot of reading... in between those bits. And, well, Kurapika interacting with characters that nobody remembers because their designs aren't unique enough and they have no development. Those bits... those are bad.

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                                                                                                      Hope we'll soon be done with all the bodyguard BS

                                                                                                      Every nation gets the government it deserves.–-- Joseph de Maistre

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                                                                                                        I mean… The Ging and Pariston teamup was really cool. The flashback bits to netero in the dark continent were awesome. Hisoka vs Kuroro Lucirufueru were fun and visually interesting, if a little long winded. The reveals of the royal family members' nen beasts is a visually stunning.

                                                                                                        It's just... a lot of reading... in between those bits. And, well, Kurapika interacting with characters that nobody remembers because their designs aren't unique enough and they have no development. Those bits... those are bad.

                                                                                                        I barely remember the earlier events of the arc due to how long the hiatuses are! But I gave up on rereading it because eventually it would just go back to hiatus and I'd forget it all again… Hisoka vs. Chrollo was really cool, although it didn't amount to much in terms of consequences and it just came completely out of left field. I just don't like the way Togashi tells his story. There are a lot of cool ideas, but they are immersed in a sea of boringness and forgetable stuff that just make me tired of reading this series. Sometimes I enjoy it but damn, it takes too long between those moments.

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