I'm still mad about Shalnark but it's not like this is the first time Togashi has brought back a likable character just to kill them off. We barely got to see Ponzu and Hanzo before they met their end and they had nice size able fandoms.
I take it you mean Ponzu and Pokkle, yeah?
Hanzo was looking pretty good for a dead guy last time we saw him.
I'm still mad about Shalnark but it's not like this is the first time Togashi has brought back a likable character just to kill them off. We barely got to see Ponzu and Hanzo before they met their end and they had nice size able fandoms.
If it suits the story no one is safe. Maybe it's better that way.
I think you meant to say Pokkle. Hanzo's the ninja dude.
Meh, Hanzo will probably be killed off in the first chapters of the DC voyage anyway.
I don't just mean in terms of sheer strength though, I mean their functions within the Troupe and thei respective abilities.
Machi seems to be relegated to more of a supporting role a lot of the time, thanks to the versatility of her nen stitches, while guys like Nobunaga/Phinks are just straight up killers.
Anyway, even if we did class Machi as one of the members meant to protect the less powerful ones, it still doesn't make sense to keep Shalnark and Kortopi grouped together.
Just asking for trouble.
Machi is physically stronger than Nobu and even Chrollo.
Meh, Hanzo will probably be killed off in the first chapters of the DC voyage anyway.
Nah, that will be Basho(sadly), Hanzo is gonna take out a Ryodan member to show off how strong he is.
"IF YOU’RE A MAN YOU DON’T CRY ABOUT IT. YOU TAKE LIFE THE UPS AND DOWNS. IF YOU’RE A REAL MAN YA NEVER GO DOWN YA JUST STAY UP"
Hisoka killed Kortopi!!!! My hero now! hated that shit.
He's gonna murder all because he's made of rubber, obviously.
Machi is physically stronger than Nobu and even Chrollo.
I just explained that I was talking about abilities and function within the group as well though?
Not just physical strength.
Kinda wondering about Chrollo's choice to leave the two hatsu-less members of The Troupe together along with one of the less powerful physical members.
Chrollo knows The Troupe has enemies, hell it wasn't that long ago that Kurapika came from nowhere and killed Uvogin/captured and nen chained Chrollo.
Considering Chrollo's speech to Nobunaga previously about how it was his duty to shield the less physically powerful members of the group, this configuration doesn't make a lot of sense?
Splitting Shalnark/Kortopi up and grouping them with one of Feitan/Phinks/Nobunaga seems like the logical and much less risky thing to do.
Sigh.
Maybe I'm just salty about Shalnark being one of Hisoka's victims.
Only the good manipulators die young.
Well Chrollo did have Machi guard Paku and Shizuku after he heard they would die. So it makes sense he would have no problem having her guard 2 hastu-less ones.
Speaking of Manipulators, what about Zushi?
Well Chrollo did have Machi guard Paku and Shizuku after he heard they would die. So it makes sense he would have no problem having her guard 2 hastu-less ones.
Up above I pointed out that it still made no sense to keep the two hatsu-less Troupe members together even if we did group Machi alongside Phinks/Feitan/Nobunaga etc?
Speaking of Manipulators, what about Zushi?
I was just thinking about him. I hope he will come back heading for the DC. Or just visiting Gon. Well, I just want to see him.
I take it you mean Ponzu and Pokkle, yeah?
Hanzo was looking pretty good for a dead guy last time we saw him.
I wrote that at 6AM and will take my L.
My point still stands though.
I doubt it. Dunno if Gon is already banned, but the others are probably still trying to clear it.
Just finished the Chimaera Ant arc in the anime. "Komugi, are you still there?" Goddammit, these ninjas chopping onions!
I was fairly sure it wasn't a ban. It was just that with the game cleared everyone could leave now and all the systems stopped working.
That's why it was such a big deal to clear too. You only got one shot. No replays.
I guess that Togashi picked those 2 members to die so we will be unsure if Chrollo can borrow and give back nen power - he most likely can and those 2 that died were at arena because they were waiting till after fight so Chrollo gives them back their abilities. So thats why they were there and thats why they gotten killed first imo.
It's really nice of you, sandman!
I'll try to think of something.
First thing that pops in my mind is "Y U KILL SHARUNARLUKJ", but, meh.
I guess that Togashi picked those 2 members to die so we will be unsure if Chrollo can borrow and give back nen power - he most likely can and those 2 that died were at arena because they were waiting till after fight so Chrollo gives them back their abilities. So thats why they were there and thats why they gotten killed first imo.
It is literally stated in this chapter he was going to give Shalnark his power back on he boat
I was fairly sure it wasn't a ban. It was just that with the game cleared everyone could leave now and all the systems stopped working.
That's why it was such a big deal to clear too. You only got one shot. No replays.
That doesn't make sense to me. I certainly don't want to buy a game that will end if somebody else cleared it before me.
The hype was just about how nobody has ever cleared it for such a long time before Gon.
Some long-term predictions: Vegapunk with Paw-Paw fruit for Nakama!!! Kaidou is gonna be killed by Blackbeard and get his strongest Zoan DF!!!
It is literally stated in this chapter he was going to give Shalnark his power back on he boat
Kuroro said he'll give his phone back. Shalnark is a manipulator. He can't use his hatsu without the object he focused it on (think of Morel's pipe). It doesn't mean that he hasn't got his power back yet.
That doesn't make sense to me. I certainly don't want to buy a game that will end if somebody else cleared it before me.
The hype was just about how nobody has ever cleared it for such a long time before Gon.
Well the game was exceedingly rare, very difficult to clear, massively expensive and you can die while playing. There's plenty of other reasons to not buy the game lol. This was also a massive amount of nen that went into creating the game. I would be surprised if it was a one shot thing. If anyone could go in after ot was done and just replay it it wouldn't be quite as hard. There's stronger people out there than Gon and his friends.
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which do you prefer storytelling or drawing?
why don't you hire assistants?
do you ever see yourself coming back for full year runs after your back heals?
what exactly is wrong with your back?
i don't know much about japanese etiquette so if any of those might sound impolite in japanese feel free to not take it.
I would ask him for the definitive inspiration of the Ryodan member names.
"Why did you have to kill off Syarnorkl?"
Is Zushi ever coming back?
theory: Dark Continent was just a test that Dan Freecs, father of Don Freecs and creator of the Dark Continent put to his son. Don now has to find Dan to finally meet him for the first time.
@Purple:
"Why did you have to kill off Syarnorkl?"
16 char of who????
You mean Shalnark or sharknark
@Purple:
You know, that guy that gave his ability to Quwrof Wrlccywrlir.
yes, amazing ability
So, something nobody here talked about. Hisoka talks with his nen, so is there a demon nen or something ? Since Kurapika talked about his chains i'm wondering if nen has a mind or something.
Maybe the author is teasing the "nen demon" thing with Kakin's royal vase or whatever it is ( you know, the thing Tserriednich put his hand in ), I don't recall any independent and intelligent nen monster before that.
Is there be gonna something like in Toriko ? I hope not, but well, it seems nen has a "mind".
Who/what do you guys think will finally put Hisoka to rest? He will definitely die, just.not.today.
A bunch of characters that get tired of his shit, and gang up on him?
Some completely random death from a calamity?
Gets killed nearly instantly for being cocky, and challenging someone he has no chance against?
Right now, I'm voting Killua… He has threatened/inquired about killing Killua three times for far.
I don't think Killlua would be too happy about that if he knew, and knowing Killua, once he has the ability he will want to pay Hisoka a little visit.
So, something nobody here talked about. Hisoka talks with his nen, so is there a demon nen or something ? Since Kurapika talked about his chains i'm wondering if nen has a mind or something.
Maybe the author is teasing the "nen demon" thing with Kakin's royal vase or whatever it is ( you know, the thing Tserriednich put his hand in ), I don't recall any independent and intelligent nen monster before that.Is there be gonna something like in Toriko ? I hope not, but well, it seems nen has a "mind".
It's been a long while since I've re-read the manga or seen the anime, but didn't Kite argue with his Nen and it's choices in weapons? That'd be a precedent for conscious Nen.
Who/what do you guys think will finally put Hisoka to rest? He will definitely die, just.not.today.
A bunch of characters that get tired of his shit, and gang up on him?
Some completely random death from a calamity?
Gets killed nearly instantly for being cocky, and challenging someone he has no chance against?
Right now, I'm voting Killua… He has threatened/inquired about killing Killua three times for far.
I don't think Killlua would be too happy about that if he knew, and knowing Killua, once he has the ability he will want to pay Hisoka a little visit.
You know, I was thinking about the prophecy last time and buzzed me that he is not suppose to kill all the spiders but half. So probably will die soon and again, killed by Chrollo probably? Chrollo isn't the kind of person who kills for revenge, but since he cried while reading the prophecy maybe will make an exeption this time…But then again..Hisoka must confront Gon one day because he promised, so if I'm reading Togashi's way of doing things well, he isn't suppose to die until that moment. It can be a 50% probability he will die soon. I can't bet on it though...
Guys you know those prophecies aren't relevant anymore. They were only for the month of September and on top of that they weren't accurate because the troupe and Hisoka took steps to make sure they wouldn't happen.
As for leaving Shalnark and Kortopi basically by themselves, I wouldn't say its that unreasonable. It would take a Hisoka level threat to mess with them, even in their weaker state, and there aren't that many Hisoka level threats walking around trying to catch them.
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Who/what do you guys think will finally put Hisoka to rest? He will definitely die, just.not.today.
My money is still on Chrollo/The Spiders. He bit off more than he could chew with Chrollo the first time, and I doubt making him mad by killing his dear friends is going to make a second fight any easier.
Guys you know those prophecies aren't relevant anymore. They were only for the month of September and on top of that they weren't accurate because the troupe and Hisoka took steps to make sure they wouldn't happen.
Still, Shalnark's one hit the mark somehow. You could say it was one of those coincidences of life.
Still, Shalnark's one hit the mark somehow. You could say it was one of those coincidences of life.
Hm that is true, although he was supposed to die after Shizuku. It would be interesting if trying to change the fortune didn't actually work, but only delayed its effect. Paku, Shal, Kortopi (the one they didn't know because he couldn't have his fortune read), and Uvo are all dead. And we know that Hisoka did get his match with Chrollo, just not on the day it said, and the mafia members still got their merchandise stolen even after they tried to hide it. That would be a nice twist.
So, something nobody here talked about. Hisoka talks with his nen, so is there a demon nen or something ? Since Kurapika talked about his chains i'm wondering if nen has a mind or something.
Maybe the author is teasing the "nen demon" thing with Kakin's royal vase or whatever it is ( you know, the thing Tserriednich put his hand in ), I don't recall any independent and intelligent nen monster before that.Is there be gonna something like in Toriko ? I hope not, but well, it seems nen has a "mind".
oh how dare you?! 
the personification of powers came from jojo! and it's called a stand. but yeah this doesn't seem too far off. hxh did have some of those, kite's clown and netero's statue are a few.
It's been a long while since I've re-read the manga or seen the anime, but didn't Kite argue with his Nen and it's choices in weapons? That'd be a precedent for conscious Nen.
I thought it was kind of a running gag that Kite thinks he gets a bad weapon everytime. Then, when he was fighting Pitou, he got actually got a bad weapon. That thing looked useless.
So, something nobody here talked about. Hisoka talks with his nen, so is there a demon nen or something ? Since Kurapika talked about his chains i'm wondering if nen has a mind or something.
Maybe the author is teasing the "nen demon" thing with Kakin's royal vase or whatever it is ( you know, the thing Tserriednich put his hand in ), I don't recall any independent and intelligent nen monster before that.Is there be gonna something like in Toriko ? I hope not, but well, it seems nen has a "mind".
Hisoka's also crazy. Nen has been shown to be incredibly powerful, but generally limited to (or maybe, enabled by) the psyche of the wielder. As far as I know we've not seen such a thing as nen without a 'caster'.
Artifacts, as in Greed Island or what I assume to be the royal pot, can be imbued with it, but it's the nen user who does the imbuing, not necessarily a diety of some sort.
You would think that some enterprising hunter would investigate forms of meditation or psycotherapy for removing the limits on nen if this were the case, though. And we still have the oddness of Alluka to deal with.
All in all, it's true that Togashi's been oddly silent about parts of the power system in this universe, especially considering how verbose he's been on all the other parts. Time will tell, eh.
Who/what do you guys think will finally put Hisoka to rest? He will definitely die, just.not.today.
A bunch of characters that get tired of his shit, and gang up on him?
Some completely random death from a calamity?
Gets killed nearly instantly for being cocky, and challenging someone he has no chance against?
Right now, I'm voting Killua… He has threatened/inquired about killing Killua three times for far.
I don't think Killlua would be too happy about that if he knew, and knowing Killua, once he has the ability he will want to pay Hisoka a little visit.
Machi then Hisoka nen will attack her putting Machi to an eternal sleep where she have nightmares of typical Hisoka shenanigans.
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It's been a long while since I've re-read the manga or seen the anime, but didn't Kite argue with his Nen and it's choices in weapons? That'd be a precedent for conscious Nen.
Yeah, thanks I forgot about him. And interesting thing, we know Gin taught him to use his hatsu, maybe Gin knows a lot about nen and this is how he taught his pupil how to have a "mindful hatsu".
Hisoka must confront Gon one day because he promised, so if I'm reading Togashi's way of doing things well, he isn't suppose to die until that moment. It can be a 50% probability he will die soon. I can't bet on it though…
Hisoka will follow Kuroro, which means he'll be in the ship heading for the DC, which means Gin will be there too, which means Gin will beat the crap out of him.
I don't think he'll fight Gon, especially since Gon has no nen anymore. I don't think we'll see him soon.
hxh did have some of those, kite's clown and netero's statue are a few.
I'm not sure Netero's hatsu was speaking or whatever.
And we still have the oddness of Alluka to deal with.
Nanika is from the DC, so we can put that aside. Assuming we can't speculate about this.
I dont think sentient nen/hatsu should be too surprising in case of conjurers since that could be part of their shtick? i mean, they materialise an object an give it its properties… im not sure but i think it was stated during razor fight something along these lines when comenting goreinus nen...
Or for instance if you conjured your own clone or friend or some imagined person i dont find it much of a stretch that it would have a mind of its own
I think while some may think that Hisoka has plot armor, maybe they are upset because they wanted Chrollo to kill him, but I was re-reading the chapter, and there is one flaw (yes I'm nitpicking) in Chrollo's plan. When Hisoka is walking on the ledge of the second floor, Chrollo commanded puppets (I'm assuming all the ones with bombs) to "Find Hisoka go to the second floor and explode near him." This would've put most, if not all puppets with explosives far away, so when he fell and the other, non explosive, just break hisoka puppets, swarmed him and started to tear him apart (yeah i'm imagining that Hisoka losing his nose is some puppets ripping it up) all the others got "as close as they could" and exploded.
In short, the whole he asphyxiated deal was properly set up.
Maybe it was set up. But the whole "yeah I planned I was gonna survive" is pure fan service bullshit. Hisoka has been very lucky. And I'm not even sure you can survive even if there is meat-shield. It's not stated at all that he planned it, but he had absolutely no reason to believe he was gonna survive and talk to his nen bullshit.
"Hey nen, my dearest friend, when I'll be dead, just bring me back to life please"
I wasn't saying Hisoka set it up, I meant the author. Also around 100 human bodies were between hisoka and the bombs, again I don't think Hisoka planned, like you said he got lucky. I think even he was surprised: " oh machi, was i dead?" It was more like, let's see if I get lucky. Like other said, if they had ripped his head, heart then it is a no no for Hisoka. I think if anything we should start guessing the order in which the spider will die, and whom if any will survive.
Dunno why he had any reason not to do it. The whole point of him in the previous chapter was saying "well, if I'm going to die anyway…"
If he was going to get out of that pickle, that was the way he was going to do it.
Not even sure why people are so focused on the "talk to his nen bullshit" either. Not only is there precedent in at least one case beforehand that nen can have a separate sentience from its user, it just seems to me like Hisoka's just basically programming his nen to expand and contract post mortem.
I mean if you really want to actually get technical about how practical that is, then you should be pointing more towards how the oxygen deprivation for such a long time should've rendered him dead anyway because his brain should've been dead even if his heart is beating, but otherwise, everything that happened for Hisoka is pretty much in line with the standard rules in the series.
@Purple:
Not even sure why people are so focused on the "talk to his nen bullshit" either. Not only is there precedent in at least one case beforehand that nen can have a separate sentience from its user, it just seems to me like Hisoka's just basically programming his nen to expand and contract post mortem.
I mean if you really want to actually get technical about how practical that is, then you should be pointing more towards how the oxygen deprivation for such a long time should've rendered him dead anyway because his brain should've been dead even if his heart is beating, but otherwise, everything that happened for Hisoka is pretty much in line with the standard rules in the series.
How can he program his nen ? He just cannot. Moreover, he was unconscious.
And I thought I had already talked about the oxygen thing, but yeah who da hell he thinks he is ? Morel Mackernasey ?
The bullshiting here is that Hisoka had no reason to believe he was gonna survive but still told his nen to revive his lungs and heart. Saying that to his nen was pointless, but it figures out he's a fan service "I'm a genius, i'm so strong and cool" character.
"What ? I'm gonna explode ? Nah let's just massage my heart and my lungs, that'll be fine. "
True or false. Nen can activate after the death of the user?
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