My Hero Academia II - A true Hero

[Ubiq]

@Cyan:

• Mineta is no longer a horrible person

After a lot of time and effort, he claws his way up to being merely awful.

[Long John Silvers Rayleigh]

It'd be kind of funny if horikoshi did a summer long timeskip after year 2 and had mineta 5'6 instead of the 3'6 he is. He'd look uncomfortably lanky.

[Satsuki]

@Cyan:

• Aoyama can now fire his laser repeatedly without shitting himself
• Denki no longer fries his brain after five minutes
• Tooru can do that "focus light" thing to the point that she is basically a living laser
• Ochako can cast Meteor without vomiting

Add Ashido can fire her acid over greater distances and/or can create more varieties of acid (aka taking chemistry).
And Kirishima can grow his rock body into spikes rather than just rock skin.

@Ubiq:

After a lot of time and effort, he claws his way up to being merely awful.

So hard to write a pervy character without it being an awful character.

That and I have no idea how "sticky grapes" can be made any more powerful.

[Cyan D. Funk]

Mineta's Quirk is strong as hell and does wonders whenever he breaks it out.

He's just held back by him being a coward and a colossal piece of shit.

[Cyclone_Baroness]

@Satsuki:

Add Ashido can fire her acid over greater distances and/or can create more varieties of acid (aka taking chemistry).
And Kirishima can grow his rock body into spikes rather than just rock skin.

So hard to write a pervy character without it being an awful character.

That and I have no idea how "sticky grapes" can be made any more powerful.

Kaminari is pervy and not terrible.

[CCC]

Kaminari is horny. He catcalls and asks women on dates. He doesn't touch without consent, sniff girls' underwear drawers, peep on girls in locker room/onsen, or say that a 6-year old should get back to him in 10 years.

There's actually an entire chapter in light novel 1 that throws those two together at a theme park and shows the differences in their characterization (let's just say that there's another little girl involved, and Mineta implies that Genji from Tale of Genji is his hero for raising his bride-to-be from a young age).

[KageKageKing]

Mineta has the charisma of an African Bullfrog.

[Nectar]

More costume upgrades and quirk control. Might be seeing the start of Class A's final power rankings. Sugar Man might've hit a wall already, Mineta and Shoji too. But, tool-assisted students like Kaminari, Jiro, and Aoyama can get better weapons. Students like Bakugou and Uraraka are still mastering their quirks so they're good.

[Cyan D. Funk]

Sugar Man's Quirk ultimately boils down to "One For All but shittier" so he's boned.

Shoji at least has visual interest going for him.

[Jabberwok]

@CCC:

Kaminari is horny. He catcalls and asks women on dates. He doesn't touch without consent, sniff girls' underwear drawers, peep on girls in locker room/onsen, or say that a 6-year old should get back to him in 10 years.

There's actually an entire chapter in light novel 1 that throws those two together at a theme park and shows the differences in their characterization (let's just say that there's another little girl involved, and Mineta implies that Genji from Tale of Genji is his hero for raising his bride-to-be from a young age).

While I agree that Kaminari is pervy in a realistic and pretty inoffensive way, using that light novel against Mineta isn't the most accurate imo. His scene with Eri can be seen two ways: he's sexualizing her by imagining dating her, and that's he's not interested right now and basically says "come back later." It's gross, but it's less bad than, say, Sanji's scene about moe Nami in Film Z. Mineta's gross but he doesn't appear interested in sexual development, virginal conquest, and that whole other (in my opinion, more problematic) mess.

[CCC]

He's incel in everything but name, and light novel contents are Horikoshi-approved, though at the end of the day it's all just playing off characterization introduced within the manga anyway (even down to the "hur hur can't wait until you're older" thing, which actually happened in LN1 before the time with Eri in the manga).

He objectifies anyone with a vagina as a potential conquest, thinks that society owes him ("men get no respect nowadays") and all evidence so far indicates that he would sexually assault someone if he were capable of it, since he already takes his harassment up to the point that others have to physically rebuff him. Him not actually wanting to sleep with a child is, sure, a silver lining. I guess.

[Cyclone_Baroness]

@Nectar:

More costume upgrades and quirk control. Might be seeing the start of Class A's final power rankings. Sugar Man might've hit a wall already, Mineta and Shoji too. But, tool-assisted students like Kaminari, Jiro, and Aoyama can get better weapons. Students like Bakugou and Uraraka are still mastering their quirks so they're good.

Hmm. I wonder how Ojiro can improve. He was told to be more creative. But he's still just a martial arts dude with a beefy tail.

[Cyan D. Funk]

I wonder what improvements Koda can get. I'm still lost as to how he passed the entrance exams.

[Cyclone_Baroness]

Oh yeah. I keep forgetting about that kid. It's hard to say how he should improve cause he didn't seem to have issues calling particular animals. He was just scared of bugs and did that in the midterms. He mostly strikes me as the type that needs to work on his personality. An invisible girl stands out more than he does.

[maxterdexter]

I'd guess Ojiro could create his own martial art, that combines any regular one with using the tail for either momentum, balance, support or striking.

[Cyclone_Baroness]

Maybe. But isn't that what he was doing anyways?

I just realized that Shoji was listed as hitting a wall? Like how? Dude can make extra body parts.

[DemonX]

Hmm, haven't heard about Deku's genes letting him interact with the original wielder up to now. That's a viable theory, I guess. And I don't think it would cheapen him at all, since his genes would really only do him a favor once he's gotten OfA. And since he's the chosen one already…eh.

My favorite theory is that this is the transference part of the quirk he's actually gaining access to, because he's mastering OfA bit by bit and isn't a natural like AM, who might have never sought to explore the entirety of the quirk. And the order he's seen the AM wielders in would actually show their total proficiency of the quirk (i.e. both the power stacking and the transference quirk).

Looking forward to seeing what his power-up actually is.

[Nectar]

Maybe Shoji can grow extra limbs and use guns like Robin did in Water 7. If Sugar Man's Discount OFA, Shoji's Discount Nico Robin.

[Ruin]

I hope Sero gets a vague danger sense so Horikoshi can stop pretending that he's not spider-man with tape instead of webs

[choperman]

How did stain and the girl from league of villains figure out what there quirk was???

ingesting peoples blood is not what normal people do

[Cyclone_Baroness]

@choperman:

How did stain and the girl from league of villains figure out what there quirk was???

ingesting peoples blood is not what normal people do

Stain is totally that type of fighter that would lick blood off a blade or fist after striking someone. He probably found it out a tad later than most kids.

Toga has a specific fetish. I'm not surprised she's ingested and it collected blood at some point.

[sgamer82]

@choperman:

How did stain and the girl from league of villains figure out what there quirk was???

ingesting peoples blood is not what normal people do

Simplest answer: they were told by whatever parent they inherited their quirks from.

I do wonder though if people have a natural instinct for the basics of their quirks, even just as an urge to act in a way that triggers the quirk

[Purple Hermit]

Wonder what would happen if he were to lick his own blood

[Satsuki]

@Cyclone_Baroness:

Maybe. But isn't that what he was doing anyways?

I just realized that Shoji was listed as hitting a wall? Like how? Dude can make extra body parts.

He needs to embrace his inner Robin and go the distance.

[Long John Silvers Rayleigh]

Start snapping people's necks and speaking Spanish & French?

[kevo_koma]

@sgamer82:

Simplest answer: they were told by whatever parent they inherited their quirks from.

I do wonder though if people have a natural instinct for the basics of their quirks, even just as an urge to act in a way that triggers the quirk

This actually raises a very interesting question. Does the quirk influence the behavior of its wielder?

For example, would someone like Bakugo be ok with just being a manga artist or does the nature of his quirk mean that he'll constantly seek out confrontation.

I wonder if Hirokishi will ever address this.

[Robby]

@Cyan:

I wonder what improvements Koda can get. I'm still lost as to how he passed the entrance exams.

Well, according the wiki, his quirk specifically is

Anivoice (生いき物ものボイス Ikimono Boisu?): Koji's Quirk gives him the ability to command and control any creature in the animal kingdom. Whatever command he gives, the animal will carry it out. His ability to command and control animals extends to insects as well. However, he is unable to exert his control if they cannot hear his command. Also, the target must be a real animal and not merely animal-shaped.

So, one upgrade would be to control animals outside his current range, and to control multiple. And while its fun to think he could command wolves or bears or something, that not super practical.

The true potential is if he gets over his fear of bugs. If he learns to control bugs, he becomes downright terrifying in a hurry.

If Worm taught me anything, it's that bug benders are FUCKING SCARY.

[Count Mario]

@kevo_koma:

This actually raises a very interesting question. Does the quirk influence the behavior of its wielder?

For example, would someone like Bakugo be ok with just being a manga artist or does the nature of his quirk mean that he'll constantly seek out confrontation.

I wonder if Hirokishi will ever address this.

While there is a good chance that an author will base a character's traits around their Quirk in certain ways, I've never really cared for the theory that everyone's Quirk biologically influences their personality. It sounds depressingly deterministic that could easily convolute a series focused around heroes upholding morals, learning how to be heroes, and finding redemption.

And it can easily make the heroes look less inspiring and villains look less hatable if their motivations can be heavily influenced by their Quirk itself. It's not completely game breaking as a writer could interesting explore how people can manage their superpower urges for selfless productivity instead of destructive selfish crimes. But the idea of powers influencing a host's psychology suits a philosophically complex series akin to, say, Ghost in the Shell. But My Hero Academia is far from being that type of series. Especially when Deku literally "defied the future" a couple arcs ago lol.

I personally find it more appealing to explore how a character's Quirk shapes them based on their experiences. Like Twice's entire backstory. If Overhaul was better written, seeing him become a germaphobe because of an experience in his childhood involving his Quirk intrigues me much more than being born a germaphobe because Humpty Dumpty powers.

[Robby]

@Satsuki:

That and I have no idea how "sticky grapes" can be made any more powerful.

Like this.

Just being able to make bigger ones (or smaller ones) would be a game changer. They could even inflate on impact.

Like if a giant boulder is about to fall on someone, and then he throws out a giant cushy ball that sticks to the ground and cushions the falling rocks. like whenever Luffy does a balloon move. Or if he makes a big one he can stick any enemy in one shot and they'll be hard pressed to move.

Also the ability to make more of them without hurting himself. Or different properties. If he could make them smooth and slick instead of sticky, or explode, or hold items in them, there's all sorts of trap and bowling pssibilities. Getting sniping capability.

If he wasn't utter trash person, he could be Usopp.

But really, entirely with the properties he has now, just making them bigger would get nuts fast.

@Cyclone_Baroness:

Hmm. I wonder how Ojiro can improve. He was told to be more creative. But he's still just a martial arts dude with a beefy tail.

His is a lot harder.

Quirk
Tail (尻尾 Shippo?): Mashirao's Quirk gives him a strong, sturdy tail. He is incredibly adept at using it, having demonstrated creative abilities, such as whipping it down against the ground to give himself a speed boost.

If its really JUST tail, then using it to grab things and break block with judo and do acrobatics could be his limit. Learning to make it super hard would overlap a lot with Kirishima I think, and being able to randomly grow more would just be like Shoji's arm growing.

What if he can make it longer though? Like, really long, and really fast, like a bullet?
Or, revise his look entirely and add a shell to his back and add some armor to the tail it to make it more of an Ankylosaurus thing? He's big enough it would be an okay look on him.

Okay, basically his upgrade is to take his normal tail and turn it into basically a scorpion or a dinosaur or add a fun turret to it or something.

[Satsuki]

@Robby:

The true potential is if he gets over his fear of bugs. If he learns to control bugs, he becomes downright terrifying in a hurry.

If Worm taught me anything, it's that bug benders are FUCKING SCARY.

Ant-Man alone has taught us the power of bugs, whether or not you can shrink to their size.

@Robby:

Like this.

Just being able to make bigger ones (or smaller ones) would be a game changer. They could even inflate on impact.

Like if a giant boulder is about to fall on someone, and then he throws out a giant cushy ball that sticks to the ground and cushions the falling rocks. like whenever Luffy does a balloon move. Or if he makes a big one he can stick any enemy in one shot and they'll be hard pressed to move.

Also the ability to make more of them without hurting himself. Or different properties. If he could make them smooth and slick instead of sticky, or explode, or hold items in them, there's all sorts of trap and bowling pssibilities. Getting sniping capability.

If he wasn't utter trash person, he could be Usopp.

I forgot about that scene. Yes, I see the possibility. But as you say it's not just learning to make different "grapes", but to learn to shoot/throw them with great accuracy.

[Ageless_Bum]

@Count:

While there is a good chance that an author will base a character's traits around their Quirk in certain ways, I've never really cared for the theory that everyone's Quirk biologically influences their personality. It sounds depressingly deterministic that could easily convolute a series focused around heroes upholding morals, learning how to be heroes, and finding redemption.

And it can easily make the heroes look less inspiring and villains look less hatable if their motivations can be heavily influenced by their Quirk itself. It's not completely game breaking as a writer could interesting explore how people can manage their superpower urges for selfless productivity instead of destructive selfish crimes. But the idea of powers influencing a host's psychology suits a philosophically complex series akin to, say, Ghost in the Shell. But My Hero Academia is far from being that type of series. Especially when Deku literally "defied the future" a couple arcs ago lol.

I personally find it more appealing to explore how a character's Quirk shapes them based on their experiences. Like Twice's entire backstory. If Overhaul was better written, seeing him become a germaphobe because of an experience in his childhood involving his Quirk intrigues me much more than being born a germaphobe because Humpty Dumpty powers.

I think Shinso is the existing proof that ones quirk does not make one act a certain way. Truthfully his quirk is one of the strongest they have shown, and he could be an evil guy using it for his own desires, but he chose to be a hero, and he is sticking with it. At least as far as we know.

[King Cannon]

@Count:

While there is a good chance that an author will base a character's traits around their Quirk in certain ways, I've never really cared for the theory that everyone's Quirk biologically influences their personality. It sounds depressingly deterministic that could easily convolute a series focused around heroes upholding morals, learning how to be heroes, and finding redemption.

And it can easily make the heroes look less inspiring and villains look less hatable if their motivations can be heavily influenced by their Quirk itself. It's not completely game breaking as a writer could interesting explore how people can manage their superpower urges for selfless productivity instead of destructive selfish crimes. But the idea of powers influencing a host's psychology suits a philosophically complex series akin to, say, Ghost in the Shell. But My Hero Academia is far from being that type of series. Especially when Deku literally "defied the future" a couple arcs ago lol.

I personally find it more appealing to explore how a character's Quirk shapes them based on their experiences. Like Twice's entire backstory. If Overhaul was better written, seeing him become a germaphobe because of an experience in his childhood involving his Quirk intrigues me much more than being born a germaphobe because Humpty Dumpty powers.

It's pretty normal for people to have parts of their personality influenced by certain set of skills they might have, which is the whole point of Bakugou's arrogance.

Although it's clear that domestic upbringing was what caused Bakugou's confrontational attitude to exist. As well as Shoto's aloofness.

[Ruin]

I saw a cute fanart of Tenko as an urban rescue hero that uses his quirk to destroy debris quickly to find people trapped

if it's possible to consider genuinely heroic applications of shigaraki's "disintegrate on touch" quirk, anything is possible
Chisaki could have been the world's greatest surgeon if he got the approval to use his quirk in the operating room, really

[Jabberwok]

@Ageless_Bum:

I think Shinso is the existing proof that ones quirk does not make one act a certain way. Truthfully his quirk is one of the strongest they have shown, and he could be an evil guy using it for his own desires, but he chose to be a hero, and he is sticking with it. At least as far as we know.

I think the series attempts to make the point, sometimes better than others, that a Quirk influences how society interacts with the user, which then shapes their personality. A Quirk often has an indirect impact on a person's personality and dreams, be it by being weak, overtly villainous, inherently harmful, or just specialized. It shapes how the user can interact with the world and how the world sees the user, but it's just as often that a character has a personality rooted in a Quirk instead of completely in-line with it. Shinso is a great example but Tooru is too- she has a big personality probably in part because she wants to stand out and not completely disappear, the opposite of her Quirk.

[kevo_koma]

@Count:

While there is a good chance that an author will base a character's traits around their Quirk in certain ways, I've never really cared for the theory that everyone's Quirk biologically influences their personality. It sounds depressingly deterministic that could easily convolute a series focused around heroes upholding morals, learning how to be heroes, and finding redemption.

And it can easily make the heroes look less inspiring and villains look less hatable if their motivations can be heavily influenced by their Quirk itself. It's not completely game breaking as a writer could interesting explore how people can manage their superpower urges for selfless productivity instead of destructive selfish crimes. But the idea of powers influencing a host's psychology suits a philosophically complex series akin to, say, Ghost in the Shell. But My Hero Academia is far from being that type of series. Especially when Deku literally "defied the future" a couple arcs ago lol.

I personally find it more appealing to explore how a character's Quirk shapes them based on their experiences. Like Twice's entire backstory. If Overhaul was better written, seeing him become a germaphobe because of an experience in his childhood involving his Quirk intrigues me much more than being born a germaphobe because Humpty Dumpty powers.

You raise some good points.

This is just a Nature vs Nurture debate but this time quirks are a factor.

For example, I still raise the question, what other careers would someone born with a destructive quirk choose if it isn't pro Hero or villain?

Wouldn't the fact that they were born with a destructive power predispose them to certain characteristics/behaviors? Sure you might get some individuals who shun that power but most of them would pursue it, right?

Take Red Riot and the guy that can turn into metal. Sure its a joke that they share the same power but I also think its interesting to consider their quirks influenced their decision to become heroes.

Sorry, I'm pretty beat right now and I've typed this post 6 different times now. I don't even know if it makes any sense.

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@Ageless_Bum:

I think Shinso is the existing proof that ones quirk does not make one act a certain way. Truthfully his quirk is one of the strongest they have shown, and he could be an evil guy using it for his own desires, but he chose to be a hero, and he is sticking with it. At least as far as we know.

However, he's only alternative was to become a hero. Which means he still chose a path full of confrontation and strife, he just chose a side in that confrontation.

[choperman]

@Cyclone_Baroness:

Stain is totally that type of fighter that would lick blood off a blade or fist after striking someone. He probably found it out a tad later than most kids.

Toga has a specific fetish. I'm not surprised she's ingested and it collected blood at some point.

Your Totally right, they both definitely seem like the type of people to do that

@sgamer82:

Simplest answer: they were told by whatever parent they inherited their quirks from.

But that just changes the question from how did they learn to how did there parents learn?
@sgamer82:

I do wonder though if people have a natural instinct for the basics of their quirks, even just as an urge to act in a way that triggers the quirk

Well that would explain why Bakugo and his mother have such an explosive personality :ninja:

[Cyclone_Baroness]

Bakugo's mom doesn't have the explosive part of the quirk though. His very meek dad does though.

[Satsuki]

In Japan they say boys take after their mothers. :happy:

[Cyclone_Baroness]

@Satsuki:

In Japan they say boys take after their mothers. :happy:

Well so far 4 of the boys in class whose mother's we've seen have looked a lot like their sons. Or rather other way around I guess.

[Maju]

i forgot, what was that guy's quirk?

[maxterdexter]

Oooohhh this makes perfect sense, his quirk is very much like aizawa that without a combat element would become hard to use effectively in a combat situation as a hero.

Also ventriloquism and voice mimicry would help him.

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Maybe is time for the mineta arc where he gets expelled from class A and must get his spot (and dies in the way back to his home planet)

[KageKageKing]

https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/my-hero-academia/en/0/194/page/1

Wryyyyyy!!!!

[pariston_hill]

Wryyyyyyyy Momoama mande my day.
I still think Shinsou's quirk is best suited for interrogation, but I guess if the other sectors don't wanna/ can't have this is the best he got.

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[Eitarou]

1-B actually being relevant for the first time in over a hundred chapters that isn't Monoma screaming like a jackass?

And we're getting to see all of their costumes as well as possibly getting to see all their Quirks in action? And maybe even Hero names?

And Shinsou's back after teasing him nearly a hundred chapters ago?!

Pinch me, I must be dreaming. Christmas has come early.

…Oh, and instead of giving Uraraka something to actually do, we're going back to her crush on Deku problem? Sigh. I thought we were done with this.

I get that she's a teen and all, but can we give her some actual character development, please?

[DestinyDogma]

Oooh, I am looking foward to these next chapters, I have been waiting a lot for class B and Shinshou to get a time to shine, the page with the OFA users was pretty neat too. Pretty fun chapter, if something I wish Hori would give Uraraka other moments beside crushing on Deku´s ones or that at least Deku got some crushing on Uraraka too, I like Uraraka and she deserves more screentime wihtout her thinking about Deku.

That aside, looking at the spread in this chapter, class B really has cool hero outfits, the comic guy having a comic page mask, the glue kid having a gluestick themed outfit (he and Sero could be the coolest office suplies based hero team) and a guy wearing something that looks like Afo´s mask, but I don´t know who it is.

[Kizuchan]

Very nice seeing class B being focused on again.

[Damage3245]

@Eitarou:

…Oh, and instead of giving Uraraka something to actually do, we're going back to her crush on Deku problem? Sigh. I thought we were done with this.

I get that she's a teen and all, but can we give her some actual character development, please?

We were done with it in the sense that Uraraka resolved to stop letting her feelings interfere, and all we've seen this chapter is a continuation of that with her literally punching the thoughts out of her head.

[Robby]

Bakugo eating the word balloon was my favorite part.

Though the two OFA members being mysterious shadows… what's the point in obscuring them so completely unless they're people we've already seen... or are going to meet at some point still alive?

[King Cannon]

@Robby:

Bakugo eating the word balloon was my favorite part.

Though the two OFA members being mysterious shadows… what's the point in obscuring them so completely unless they're people we've already seen... or are going to meet at some point still alive?

They might have some resemblance to current characters, implying a possible ancestry.

[Black Leg]

A part of me wants class A to absolutely crush class B before they even get the chance to show off their skills