@ChocolateBar999:
You know most females who read shounen manga don't actually care about the girls right? Just going by popularity polls for most of them have all the male characters to the front while the female characters are in the back or the have the least amount of character within the top ten (Souma is an exception but that technically isn't a battle shounen)
It's not like those female fans and voters often have an incentive to care about the girls if the writer barely give stem a chance to shine.
People always seem to fall on that but never bring up how he skipped all the girls fights in that arc (though to be fair he skipped the guys fight outside the main ones as well)
You just countered your own argument for me.
We saw Urakara interning from the beginning of that arc and Deku relayed his message to everyone but only Todoroki.
Interning alongside all of the other characters who's internships we barely saw, to the point that Uraraka's self-defense training get more coverage in anime filler than the actual manga.
Suneater got focus due to his history with Mirio given his character is tied directly to his, the arc was meant to showcase Mirio as a character and why he should be even considered to take the mantle. How do any of the girls fit into this?
Because, I don't know, Mirio and Suneater are part of a trio that includes one girl, and it might go without saying that the girl in that group could have just as personal a relationship with Mirio as Suneater does? And how does Kirishima or Fatgum fit into Mirio's narrative? They're the two most tangential characters in the arc compared to the main plotlines centering around Eri and Mirio, and yet they get their own full fight and flashback while a whole team of four girls can't even get a whole single chapter to themselves.
Good thing female fans are just looking at the cute boys and not the cute girls. I mean sucks for people with waifus but that's how these shounen manga polls work.
You might as well say that all of the male fans are just looking at hot/cute girls and badass male characters with generalizations like that.
Not really. The most well loved and critically acclaimed shounen manga like Hokuto no Ken, Kinnikuman, Saint Seiya, Dragonball, Yuyu Hakusho, Hunter X Hunter, Slam Dunk etc. Had next to no extensive female focus they were either support or cheerleaders to make the guys look good but I guess they're bad now right?
In terms of female representation, hell yes, they range from mediocre to awful. And that isn't something we're just making up now, it's always been like that. The only difference between those series and My Hero Academia is that they aren't running anymore so they're not going to get as much attention. And they have the safeguard of being protected by the nostalgia of when we were kids and just ate up whatever was on our plate without thinking much about it, especially when it comes to gender norms and perspectives.
Death Note has some of the worst treatment of female characters in a shounen manga, Misa is a worse female lead than Sakura, but you never hear anything about it why? Because the manga wasn't about them. Its silly argument and always will be.
lol You don't think people criticize Misa's character from Death Note? And look at how you brought up Sakura as a comparison. You willingly acknowledge that many fans complained about how female characters were written in Naruto. Yet you keep sticking to this hypocritical argument about people not caring about how female characters are depicted in manga/anime for whatever inane reason, assuming that it isn't just you projecting your own apathy onto being the apparent consensus of the masses.
The girls in MHA aren't damsels in distress,
Yes. Aside from Eri, but that made sense.
aren't useless,
I would beg to differ in the Yakuza Raid arc. And I can also throw in how not a single female character has won or been involved in a solo fight thus far, they've only succeeded in team-ups with other male characters. Which says something about the type of characters Horikoshi prefers to focus on action-wise despite this manga being about a school of kids growing up to become superheroes.
have their own backstories and motivations that has nothing to do with getting boys
True, but have any of their backstories and motivations been as recurrently significant as the boys? I liked Uraraka, Momo, and Jirou's character arcs, but none of them have been relevant past the arcs they were first introduced in. In comparison, look at how long-term Bakugo, Shouto, and Iida's character development/growth has been throughout the series. In fact, those girls' character arcs are always a sideshow compared to male character arcs being the centerpiece. Uraraka's backstory wasn't the cornerstone behind the Sports Festival, Shouto's was. Same goes for Jirou in the Sports Festival arc, it was Gentle and La Brava's (and La Brava was an accessory to Gentle who was codependent on him). I think the only arc where a girl got some of the biggest focus compared to the guys was Momo in the Final Exam arc, and what do you know, she has to have her self-esteem salvaged by Shouto, her male ally.
and aren't just cheap fanservice yet they're bad because they didn't get focus in n arc that wasn't about them? Please.
So we're just going to pretend Midnight and Momo's costume, Momo's Field Training commercial gag, and the Beauty Pageant in the Culture Festival don't exist.
Get your priorities straight.
Get your manga fandom complaint comparisons straight.
He hasn't stopped in fact he still plans too. The Yakuza arc had development for Mina during Kirishima's flashback but that's apparently not enough.
What development? She was only a foil for Kirshima, a male character who is the protagonist of the flashback, realizing and challenging his cowardice. You could argue she maybe got a little more depth shown in how she protected her friends from Gigantomachia, but it wasn't much.
How much do you want to bet that when Gigantomachia finally shows up as an arc antagonist he'll never interact with Mina even once? I wouldn't even be surprised if Kirishima did and at best we only get a quick gag about Mina remembering how scary he was.
The comment was moreso for the idea that Bakugou should got easy on her because she's a girl which is a fairly meta argument for shounen manga. Truth be told as much of a genre lover Hori is he doesn't follow strictly on its convictions hence why Momo is the top of the class despite not having a powerhouse quirk but because she's an all around good student whereas Bakugou and Shoto are currently straddling behind but she's also not an insufferable Mary Sue who has to be stronger than the men type either but I guess that doesn't mean any thing because she doesn't get a fight every arc.
First, we're not complaining about Momo because she's actually contributed more to this manga than Uraraka, who's billed as one of the most major students alongside Deku, Bakugo, Shouto, and Iida.
Second, why can't there be at least one female character with at least half as many good action showings or a powerhouse Quirk like the guys? Momo doesn't have to be either of those things just like there are minor supporting male characters that contribute other things to the story. But unlike the guys, the females are vastly overshadowed when it comes to this series' action aspect.
But we don't. You barely see anyone complaining about how Nami and Robin has not had a solo fight in the series for 7 years or how both of their screentime have gotten cut short as a result of Goda splitting of the group constantly, or how their outfits have gotten incredibly skimpy as the series went on. So why is it suddenly a problems when Hori decides to focus on anything other than Urakara when she's not in an immediate need of focus now?
Dude, you have been on this forum since 2010. How on Earth have you supposedly never seen at least one comment on here complaining about the female Straw Hats (along with Chopper, Brook, and Sanji) not getting solo fights post-timeskip, Robin's bland post-timeskip design compared to her concept art, or Oda's generic character designs for most of the story's major females? All of this stuff gets brought up at least every couple weeks or so.
And the problem is that Uraraka's barely gotten much focus since the Sports Festival. All she's gotten are gags about repressing her feelings for Deku, Toga morphing into her during the License Exam, feeling useless at the end of the Cleansers arc, and minor dialogue with Deku as a token close friend role alongside Iida.
Let's see…they weren't an hindrance to the operation and accomplished their objective unlike most of the male heroes who either fell in their operation or in worse cases died (Nighteye) and wound up saving the rest in the end as well but because they got one chapter of focus its meaningless.
Um, what are you talking about? They are the one hero faction that arc that only acted as decoys at best and hinderances at worst for the rescue operation. They thought they defeated not-Bane until he used his Quirk, they let themselves get fooled by Toga disguising herself as Deku, and handed Overhaul a free power-up by dragging his minion into the battle and allowing a final form fusion to occur.
The males in comparison all defeated at least one Cleanser and saved Eri. Nighteye died but the foresight information gained from his Quirk is the entire reason the raid was even possible in the first place. He also at least took down the Rappa clone made by Twice.
The only useful thing the females contributed was stalling not-Bane at the very beginning of the raid to let the boys infiltrate the labyrinth. We even have Uraraka at the end of the arc lamenting about how useless she felt during the whole ordeal.
